Can the Flood be cured? (Halo)
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Hey guys, so this video might mark the end of the Flood lore series, but by no means the last Flood video on my channel. This is HiddenXperia, Flood is our forté, we ain't stopping any time soon :D
Today we're discussing the Flood cure - whether one has ever existed, the various attempts at creating one, and whether it's actually even possible!
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Hello love your videos keep up the good work!!!
HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! great video!
HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! If the flood has a lot of knoledge why they dont build
ohhhhhhhhh the sacred icon...
I got your cure right here fam
* pumps shotgun *
Wait, was that an actual phrase that makes sense? Coming from Caboose?
D00Rhinge yes it was my friend,yes it was
Michael J. Caboose what about freckles?
Bungie's blue flames the real question is whether or not the flood is ever canonically in RvB
Very classy. 😏
The real reason the flood don't infect Johnson, he's too badass that by connecting him to the hive mind will cause sergeant Johnson to assume direct control
Yes
"Assuming direct control of this goddamn form!"
"What the hell kinda bullshit outfit are we running here?" says Flood-Johnson.
@@xX_Gravity_Xx "This one is the Master Chief, and this one is an alien bastard!" Gravemind-Johnson
@@vitaming582 "Here, let me show ya what this light bulb and aging ballsack have to say!"
I'm a "glass the whole planet" type person when I deal with the flood
You and Rtas Vadam would be good friends.
Slender Man/Douglas Mitchell Especially if it wasn't for the Arbiters wise council.
Glass it from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
I can agree
Fucking Nuke Em’
I feel like if the flood were real HiddenXperia would be the first one to be infected just cause he's such a flood fanboy 😂😂
BoxFacedGaming
He will be the First Gravemind ^_^
Thel 'Vadam totally!
At that moment humanities only hope was lost.
I hope he will still make videos as a gravemind.
Just call me Sir
Then we shall all listen to him speak in iambic heptameter while spreading the logic plague.
The real cure master chief with a shotgun. FR tho nice vid keep up the good work.
"Just turn the entire human race into Spartans. What could possibly go wrong?"
This. IS. SPAAARTAAA!!!!!!!
1/3 of humanity dead💀💀💀
3:37 That Rocket literally scraped against the Chiefs armor...
In halo ce, the mission 343 guilty spark, the cutscene where master chief opens the door, a marine(probably pvt.mendoza) falls...
Why didn't he get infected by the flood???????
My theory is that he got kill while banging on the door to escape(like in many horror movies) but he was never infected as he would be later used as bio mass for the proto gravemind. Notice that the Master Chief was carrying his body for a split second. pointed his gun around for a bit and left the body on the ground before exploring the rest of the room. But when you came back, his body is nowhere to be seen.
@@iRradiantRayne my god!
Cause he dum
Plasma radiation like with Johnson maybe?
Not sure if the video talks about this.
@@iRradiantRayne that the dead marine outside Mendoza is still on the ground
The question I've always wanted an answer to is: why aren't the highly advanced combat skins of ancient Humans and Forerunners effective at keeping out a life form like a Flood spore? I mean, these suits are essentially tanks built to withstand heavy damage from advanced weapons fire and keep out hard vacuum and extreme temperatures for extended times. You would think the absolute LEAST they should be able to do is keep out organic lifeforms.
because the flood keep learning. The flood is always as strong the race that they fought. When they fought humans the will use humans weaponry. When the fight forerunners the will use the forerunners arsenal. Sorry late for three years
4 years late,but because has many small tentacles with as described in the book have "razor-like tendrils."
Honestly, I can't see the Flood being able to realistically puncture ODST armor. The reason for this is fairly simple...the Flood use re-purposed bone and skin.
@@Sinn0100 pretty sure they scavenge and develop enemy weaponry that can easily puncture through. The flood we encounter is a lot less dangerous than before because 1. they didnt have enough mass 2. our weapons are not as advanced
@@xuepingsong5329
Okay, alright, I get it. Thanks for the response man. ;)
How to cure the flood: 1. Eliminate all life in the galaxy 2. Let the flood starve 3. Return to life 100000 years later in the future
That guy across the street step 4: repeat
Well if ure step would actually work halo wouldn't be a game because they already did that and the flood don't starve so
1000000 isn't enough because the flood can go into stasis as shown in halo wars 2 dlc awakening the nightmare so the only way to do this is for humanity to win the primordials challenge for the mantle of responsibility
nunny 117 actually the halo rings did technically work it's just they freaking kept some flood for study like morons
Gary the Stormtrooper if the forerunners were smart instead of keeping live specimens they should have kept recordings and data on the flood preserved so that once a civilization was advanced enough they could study these recordings and prepare for the flood before hand way before hand.
I honestly believe the flood infection can't be properly cured. Due to the unique way it was created (that being literal star dust that a precursor broke itself down into that decayed over thousands of years) it's far beyond what we would call an infection in our modern day tech. A lounge time ago, the precursors were at war with the Forerunners because the Forerunners wanted the mantle of responsibility, which was given to the humans. One by one the precursors were dying, despite being so damn powerful so one precursor decided to avoid this conflict and broke himself down into dust so that he would be able to recollect himself in the future, and wether he knew it or not, the dust would decay over the years and would turn into the flood parasite, and then he would be reformed into the Gravemind.
The Gravemind's consciousness is literally a reincarnated version of the precursor, and the flood is also a part of that reincarnation. This also explains why a Gravemind collects knowledge through it's victims because once a person has become a flood form, all their memories and knowledge becomes part of the flood consciousness. This also explains why if a Gravemind dies, a new one can be made and the previous Gravemind's knowledge transfers to the newer one. This means that the flood NEVER stop learning and advancing and this, combined with the strength of the flood, is one of the reasons why the forerunners lost the war to the flood.
That's why the flood and the Gravemind are so deadly, they can communicate with each other in the most perfect way, their minds. Because the flood IS just one mind. That's why they all do have ONE goal. Because all forms of the flood is literally the same being, all down to the microscopic level.
In Halo 3, the flood advance to a higher stage of their lethality, meaning they've infected enough to advance to the next stage of infectivity. You know about this when you hear a certain one said by an elite - "...the flood, it has evolved." The flood tank forms in Halo 3 (or more properly known as a flood super cell or FSC) can shape shift because its 'muscles' can think. The microbes that transmit the flood parasite have their own consciousness and trying to cure a being that has lived for hundreds and thousands of years and is extremely intelligent can be a bit of a problem.
It took me years to fully grasp the concept of the flood and I'm still not sure if I got it all down.
I love the flood...
Corynthius agreed we would need technology that is at precursor level and the human race doesn't posses that technology
Corynthius I just had a thought the flood is corrupted precursor DNA correct?
Yea. Not reading this bullshit
It took you years? You can literally read every detail about the flood in 30 mins.
@@ragingmcqueen woah wouldnt want to fuck with you
How to stop the flood: Tell the graveminds to stop.
"Yeah if you would stop infesting the whole galaxy, that would be really great... please."
Apologize for Forerunner atrocities.
Offer a nice gift basket.
Demonstrate our worthiness to be Mantled by caring for a goldfish.
Simple as.
Damn the forerunners where pricks
Vanquish nah.
Vanquish
Ancient humans were pricks lol. XD
Humans fucked the Forerunners by destroying the flood cure.
Gaiden Shinji of the Diagna yeah I think out of the forerunners the ancient humans and the flood the flood were probability the nicest
Vanquish not really humanity was expanding into their space and "attacking" their world's
The people who were thought to be immune in Halo were actually willingly spared by the Flood, who deemed them to be potential candidates for the Mantle of Responsibility. The only immunity to flood cells is worthiness of the Mantle.
Since the flood cell changes the host's cells so that they become rotten, what if the host has a fast enough regenerative ability that it can out-heal the flood cell and sort of just leave it in a constant loop, so they be semi-infected
3:32 The Palace of Pain,
quite aptly named.
How do you make a cure from something that can destroy an entire species simply with one spore? You think superman and goku are overpowered, nah fam flood always wins, just gotta wait a long, really long time.
mUND33PS It wasnt One. The Flood acted like its One, but The cure was useless. They just Wanted The humans To believe that it Worked.
Tim W. Damn primordial lying and telling the humans it worked
could the prometheans recognize other humans and remember their past?
Collin McCullum when composition is done the conposed organism's memeory is fragmented,
darth vader ancient human flashbacks lol
the prometheans were composed of ancient humans, before the rest of ancient humanity was devolved, meaning that there is only one ancient human still "alive", Chakas, who is guilty spark, and his location is currently unknown. Also Chakas is in the form of a Monitor, not an ancient human, so unless they directly saw an ancient human body, they wouldn't unless they knew Chakas's personality. But there memory is also distorted so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@darthvader4594 defragment their brain like a hard drive lol
@@legit8264 didn't spark die in halo 3?
your videos about the flood makes me want a flood themed survival horror game... i think it has potential as a fangame
*Taps Roof of doomslayer*
Me: he can kill so many things
if the primary way of infection is the nervous system, then really, you need to only do one of two thing, either completely replace the nervous system or find a way to fully protect it. I have theories on both that are within reason.
for replacement, you could replace the major parts (spinal nervous system, brain stem, heart, etc) with fiber optics that can do the same job. as far as I know, there's no real way for the flood to infect basically a tube of light.
Another way is to protect it. The way I think we can do that is by introducing a artificial virus with DNA/RNA instructions for cells to make either protein wall or a carbon wall around all of the nervous system. I don't know if it'll really stop the infection fully, but it'll make it a hell of alot harder.
these are my theories, again, I tried to put it within reason for 500 years into the future
upvote so Xperia can see this :D
TheRed Hawk still won't stop the bodies from turning into biomass
true, but at least the bodies wont be used against you, plus, the infection form has to attach itself to the spinal cord to attack the nervous system before it really starts to decay the host. As far as I know, there really isn't a case of a infection form turning the host into a biomass before it attacks the nervous system.
TheRed Hawk yea but what I'd the flood uses our virus aginst us?
ODST C-1137, it would take time for that to happen. Allowing the DNA sequences to change, so they can try to adapt but will fail.
how would we get fiber optics to replace our brain. i can understand the heart and nervous system etc. but the brain could be destroyed in the process. would we even be the same if we were alive. i cant help but think amnesia would follow because your brain perceives memories as a series of electrical discharges between cells. the brain cant transfer how to interpret those impulses to a machine that perceives life in a different fashion. whereas our brain discards those useless or undervalued memories involuntarily, wouldn't fiber optics mandate a data bank that has limits and needs constant attention? (even halo follows along those lines with how AI are made) look at AI in halo, they need the bare minimum of a suit of MJOLNIR to live at least and they can go rampant and succumb to the flood (the logic plague).
I really like your flood video's because in my opinion, the flood is the most intresting thing in halo lore, and there are so many things that intrest me about it
PLEASE come back to this again sometime and tell us all about the Primordial! Who is it? Is he the Gravemind? Was he a Precursor at one point? Does that mean the Gravemind is like a memory of the memory of an original Precursor? We need answers to all this!
Can you start up a halo games night (reach or halo 3)as I miss the old days of custom games I feel it would be quite cool
I'd love to a do a weekly/by-weekly one. I want to stream more often, so this might be a good way to do so!
Please do I'd love to play Halo with you HiddenXperia! Also I tried to add you on Xbox Live since I'm friends with the Act Man. Not sure what your "policy" is for befriending fans on xbox xD (sonurtoichi is my gamertag)
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Evan Manor can I add you?
that would be fun
I just want to point out he just asked is there a cure to death since in halo 2 the flood can take over dead bodies
I really enjoy listening to your commentary. You are really good at explaining lore.
If the flood were to invade during this time, Xperia would probably volunteer to become one of them...
Only just to back up his theory videos and get more information. He'd practically have the Gravemind to base his questions on. Yay! More Flood videos! But more informed!
What are we?
Some sort of...
Notification Squad!?
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I could trawl the science journals and articles, however I need those institution accesses that I used to have... Will still try tho! (I have a bio and chem degree and work in a bio lab). Love these vids and your channel. Keep up the good work!
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I am loving all these flood videos!
So much lore!
Thumbnail: "can the flood be cured?"
*shows a pic of the t-virus and antidote*
Does the Halo array count?
The Irish farmer :) if you got a cold and I shot you, would that count as curing the cold?
I'm going to say... Kinda but not really
the geth lmfao
Jaime Romero I think the geth might worship the flood from their first encounter
Now which county in our fine country would we be a farmer in?
Between avoiding difficult-to-infect targets like Spartans and weak targets like Jackals, the flood seem to be rather picky eaters.
Dude I love your flood videos keep it up bro
Or you remove the nervous system and replace it with a fake one that is mechanical.
the epic pun mastrr that is completely impossible
Bakes 13 why? In halo plenty of people have artificial limbs etc. It'd be harder for an entire body but considering halo technology they could probably do it quite easily
Pumblechook 1 to replace the entire nervous system would mean to replace the entire body. You'd literally be putting the brain in a robot lol
Bakes 13 what's wrong with a brain in a robot body?
TheGreenTaco999 I guess that works...
The Spartan II project's augmentations also provided not only avoidance by flood forms but also immunity, as in Halo The Flood book the Chief is struck by an infection form's proboscis, and as showed in the short series The Mona Lisa, we are shown that mere flesh to flood biomass contact can cause the infection to spread.
no , Spartans aren't immune to the flood, in I think the fall of reach or the flood book, during CE a infection form laches onto him and ripped open his skin through the armour and almost infected him , because he still has a nervous system and the only reason it was stopped was because cortana overloaded the chiefs shield that created and electric pulse that saved him
The only reason why Spartans are avoid for infection is because their armor and shield. Other than that they are vulnerable to infection as well. Either way they will be infected with enough time.
Pretty sure Chief survived this cuz Cortana flashed his energy shield, frying the flood form before it really got deeper.
Love Your Videos! Keep Up The Good Work 👍🏻
Hey guys, welcome back.
Always what I look forward to ☺
I’m not kidding, I have a cure:
The Flood’s reliance on neural physics is both their advantage and their downfall. The objective of the Precursors was to pass the Mantle of Responsibility to humans. Although humans don’t know how to use the Star Roads, the Flood do. Since the Flood were created from biological modifications of animals from feeding the ground up Precursors and it changed their genetics, feed it to the Flood so their genetics change. Allow a Gravemind to develop from these changed Flood forms, and have them inflict war on themselves. The new Flood species aid humanity in defeating their ancestors by giving the gift of knowledge of the Star Roads. Star Roads are the “Mantle of Responsibility” and gives humans control over the universe. We then find out about other universes and how “The Meddlers” indirectly involved themselves in events throughout the Halo universe as a small attempt to keep the Flood from spreading to their universe.
Calling it all now. You’re welcome 👍🏻
You forget that flood dont eat, they infect organisms. But lets say they ate something “different”, how does that make the flood an ally of humanity.
Also all the star roads in the milky way were destroyed with the firing of the halos, everything with a reliance on neural physics were
so in very fast and concise way; Sarin Gas an enclosed space when they breach?
All the Star Roads that were created within the Milky Way Galaxy were annihilated, along with all Precursor nigh-indestructible structures when the Halos were fired
where there is light, there is still flood
Honestly I love these videos I never really think about these things
The Librarian discovered that the cure was real, but Faber had had the humans who made it composed, so they were unwilling to share it.
If the flood were prevursors that turned into a dust and then created the flood and the composer turn you into dust then is the composer a precursor weapon or forrunner weapon
ihaterainbows 36282652 Forerunner built
The composer is just just a digital flood.
Are you surprised about the irony in Halo?
Thats surprising to me...
Halo is irony incarnate.
Love your videos man!
Video title: Can the flood be cured?
Me: Yeah, easy! Just fire the halos!
Iconic, like Sacred Iconic?
The cure to the flood is SCP 049.
I...I am the cure...
I love that bird-beaked french monster man lol
@@fallongarens6734 scp 610: the flesh that hates
Average people: Flood
Intellectuals: *Pestilence*
I loved this video, very interesting and good commentary
3:38 His life flashed before his eyes...
More Xperia and the flood!! *nosebleed*
This guy's so cute. If I had one, I'd get fanny flutters
Thanks for makeing this video!
Actually, the Orion program makes the Spartans have a nervous system too complex for the flood, so they can’t be infected
or the fact that they have litteral AIRTIGHT titanium armour plates welded to their bone structure, energy shields, and are coupled with AI that can shock flood tendrils out?
The glass cant be half full or empty because the other half is oxygen :l
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F.....ing ICONIC
I like how many facts you put on your videos.
I honestly believe the Precursor didn't lie when he said it wasn't humanities time to be tested.
If it was the flood I would say screw money do you think we care about money while facing the flood
Energy sword or gravity hammer?
Sevenride 7 gravity hammer
Saeid Radder for dealing with the flood definitely gravity hammer because of the splash damage.
Ancient Humanity: *finds an effective countermeasure to the flood.
Primordial: Wait, what? Shit shit shit, umm no there is no cure. The fact that we ran when the humans introduced the countermeasure is irrelevant.
Itd be pretty cool to see flood vs forerunner and have them on your side like the sentinels
Good choice using creepy Dunkirk music
Cure? *pulls out ce pistol*
TBH I love the flood as an enemy. I hope they make them nigh invincible, where the only options are: activate rings and kill the food or Just seclude them in wildspace where humans or covenant aren't around.
It would hurt like hell and leave you paralised
I mean, the host's neck is snapped during the transformation so even if the host is cured, they would just drop dead anyway.
7:22 ok good ill be dead by then :)
The flood remind me of the borg from star trek.
rayrifle pie except better
More like the Zerg from StarCraft
ONI in 500 years watching right now:👁👄👁
I know I'm a few years late to this gem of a vid but honestly, after the flood snaps, stretches, and rearranges yours Bones, skin, organs, and brain, do you even want a cure?
Are spartans able to be infected because we never see it and master Chief sometimes nearly gets killed by the flood and he's the best so some unlucky spartan must have got killed by the flood. If the spartan did get infected what would happen to there fiscal body and how smart would the flood become after this change. If you could make a video on this that would be awesome thanks and sorry for spelling mistakes also sorry for getting you to do anther flood video 😁
Frog Productions his Armor is so strong that a Flood spore won't be able to get to his flesh or bones.
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Not true. There are some large gaps in his armor that they can definitely penetrate. In fact in one of the books a flood infection form almost entered his armor through the back of his neck I believe.
But are the game mode infections actually canon because that is the only thing we have seen them in I think at least
If the game mode infections are canon then why don't they look different like mutated or different
Frog Productoins short said, the augmentations make spartans resistant to the flood but not immune standerd infection forms have a very hard time but if thrown into a gravemind? Yes
Hey I have a cure
*Shows a pic of a crap ton of spartan lls all with CE shotguns and magnum*
All the spartan in sync: Gimme a shotgun and magnum and you can call meh chief, I'm gon finish da the fight
yeah that will work
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That rocket nearly took your head off at 3:37 XD
I think your medical search relating to a sealed off nervous system, the blood brain barrier is probably your closest analogy, that or a something like tonic water and maleria.
Any spore infection that controls the brain
I mean ant
Nein nein no cure
Best Idea is a 'crusade' led by Spartans against the flood.
Love this channel
Why not give every one an energy shield?
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They can actually eat through it. I'm the second halo book, aka The Flood, a flood spore ate through the mjiolnir armor of the chief, already poking around in his back with the tentacles and only Cortana actually overloading the shield fried it and saved him.
Luca Johnen so it sip in between the armour slab or just bore through the armour slowly?
MR AD can't remember, but I am pretty sure it went rather quick.
But energy shields don't activate unless you have either a larger big force or high momentum. The mjiolnir armor already is an exception since it was created from reversed enginieered jackal shields which are constantly active, but even then the flood spore was able to jump onto the armor and simply ignore the shield as it didn't trigger it.
Basically the only reason why you loose shield against infection forms in the game is because the shield gets overloaded to grill the infection form
This is ofc to not waste shield energy constantly as every connection you make with anything (slamming into a wall, being touched etc would trigger the shield). When chief first got the Mark V he even stated that when he increased the sensibility of the shield activation he could feel that he was 'swimming' on the ground as the shield activated between his feet and the ground.
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Ahhh I LOVE THESE FLOOD LORE VIDEOS THE FLOOD ARE SO FRIGIN ICONIC
Mess up all of humanity’s nervous system in a slightly different way, making it difficult for the flood to infect everyone because everyone’s nervous is messed up.
All that would happen if the flood infect me is learn that hidden is the best channel
The problem with the side-effect of the Orion project is that it only impedes Infection Form infections. Infections via Flood spore are not affected as that type of infection converts existing cells into Flood cells. As we all know, spore infection would be much more common that that of infection forms so really you need a way to prevent the conversion of genetic material into Flood genetic material.
However, for spores to work, it takes a very long time, Half-jaw wasn't awake during that flood class.
An other solution (similar to the one from the precursors).
Use soldiers to fight the flood witch cannot be infected.
in the halo book series specificly "halo: the flood" there is mention that sgt johnson survived a plasma grenade being stuck to him, and that the sticky residue on the grenade was what detured the flood from infecting him, just an interesting little fact im not shure you knew
Great video it was very interesting
Wow ancient humanity really felt like our ancestors when they said fuck the galaxy out of spite 😂
The flood has so much rich lore to enjoy
being significantly more difficult to infect would be very helpful. the flood can't bolster their ranks on the fly and infections forms can be taken out during the process, making saving squadmates a possibility that wasn't one before. if it took, say, a few days to infect instead of a few moments, the flood would be pretty fucked because they only make gains when they win.
That rocket dodge at 3:37 was S I C K
You know what would be cool? If there was a twist that prehistoric humans hid the last bits of the cure somewhere on earth maybe in speculation that the librarian would probably put humans on earth
Can you make a video on halos entire story from precursors to evil cortana plz I love ur vids btw
I noticed a problem here, regarding Sergeant Johnson's immunity. It wasn't due to his status as an ORION subject. It was due to a psychological mutation caused by nearby detonation of a number of plasma grenades. It was cureable, but Johnson never took the full course, meaning his mental structure was screwed up. This is explained in one of the books (I forget which, but I think it was First Strike.) Nut I dunno. Maybe it's changed.
The cure in the thumbnail looks like a bong chiller
I wonder if any flood got into the control room and tested out Johnson’s nervous system
And what happens if lets say a marine/other combat form thing shoot the infection form while being infected?
Extensive cybernetics replace the nerves with nano wires and an adapter chip to the brain stem if you invest the time and money on a platoon sized response force you would have a method of containment.
Mind you this would be very expensive but we are currently researching this for prosthetics (amputees) with the resources that the unsc/oni have it would be possible