Who are the Precursors?

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  • Who are the Precursors? What is their impact on the universe? Will they play an important role in the near future? All is revealed in this video!
    Next video will be a either what we can expect from Halo at E3, or the most likely playable factions we can expect in Halo Wars 2. Both are videos slightly different to what I normally make, but both should be pretty interesting nonetheless :)
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  • @o_o-037
    @o_o-037 Před 7 lety +1011

    So to put it simply, The flood are basically self-reincarnated Precursors who became corrupted when they transfigured themselves into dust. And this whole universe is based on the fact that these Precursors are pissed off at the forerunners and have a new ideology of the beings of the universe becoming "Unified".
    Whereas some like the Primordial are still out there locked in stasis who may become an ally in Halo 6?
    Does that mean the Gravemind has memories of being a precursor? After all, he DID say:
    *"And I have listened through rock and metal and time."*

    • @lordcultus5283
      @lordcultus5283 Před 5 lety +168

      The Gravemind is directly the Precursors, it's stated far more times that there is no difference between the Flood and Precursors and far more evidence weighs on the side that the Precursors were always the Flood before they were ground to dust--there is only one quote that referred to the dust as "defective", but that's most likely because the dust was expected to reform on it's own--but eventually it did, it was only called defective when it was first discovered by the Primordial. The dust technically did reform the Precursors--if the Precursors and Flood were never a different thing. It's also mentioned that the Flood existed far before the Precursors turned themselves to dust, which completely contradicts the idea that the Flood are just a corrupt form of the Precursors.
      Also, sorry for responding to a comment from 2 years ago. xD

    • @fordmustang769
      @fordmustang769 Před 5 lety +21

      Lord Cultus dude I’m so confused

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 5 lety +33

      Lord Cultus You said If and likely for key points in your argument. Therefore that doesn’t help your argument bro. Feels like your reaching just a little bit.
      Zombies are not human. Zombies are weapons/corruptions of human bodies.
      The Flood is the same. The Flood is not Precursor. The Flood is a weapon/corruption created from Precursor Self Reincarnation Dust.
      Essentially, it’s as if a human being took the human ashes/dust from a funeral somewhere and weaponized it/corrupted it to (instead of biodegrade like it’s supposed to) react with any living biomass to create a sentient bioweapon.
      Notes:
      Idk how The Forerunners could actually defeat a Tier 0 4th Dimensional species. Think about it. You a 3 Dimensional Species fighting an actual war against a 4th Dimensional Tier 0 Species that GAVE you all the technology you gained your inspiration from AND who INVENTED THE MANTLE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND bestowed it UPON YOU. Yet somehow you beat this 4 Dimensional TIER 0 Species!!! The only way that’s possible is if the Precursors just suck at warfare? Poetic License my ass. Anyways
      Forerunners have ABSOLUTELY no right to be upset if the Precursors take back the Mantle from them. In the same way a child has no right to be upset when Daddy takes back his own gun he gave you as a gift for your 18th birthday cause he thought you were ready for the responsibility. The Forerunners war against the Precursors was unjustified and immature and is an embarrassment to their race for doing so. So the Precursors have every right to be upset and want revenge against the Forerunners.
      The Precursors did wrong however in allowing so much collateral damage aka dragging other species that aren’t Forerunner into it. Aka us.
      Weaponizing/corrupting the Self Reincarnation Precursor dust created the sentient weapon we know as the Flood. That’s a fact. The Primordial is not your friend. It’s the Gravemind created from an infected Precursor that afterwards accumulated even more biomass to become a Protogravemind then a gravemind as we know it. It stayed on the sidelines while the rest of the Flood combat forms and infectious forms did the dirty work.
      Why? Because The Primordial is essential to the Flood winning BECAUSE it’s a gravemind.
      Flood become less harmful when their gravemind is destroyed therefore it’s wise for the Primordial to stay on the sidelines and deceptively help the humans in their war etc etc and tell them the truth while conveniently lying about and not even mentioning it being the Boss of the flood that the ancient humans were dealing with at the time. The Primordial did what it had to do to focus any attention on its Flood out there doing the dirty work while presenting itself as the friend of the ancient humans trying to help them defeat the flood with a “cure” lol. It’s called double crossing dude. You have to remember this when interacting with your Primordial sources.
      That weapon the Flood is sentient because it is 4th Dimensional and thus bound by Neural Physics just like most Precursor inventions.
      Uncorrupted P-Dust reincarnates (aka restores 3 more dimensions to) the currently 1 Dimensional Precursor (that was originally 4 dimensions) that the dust was made from.

    • @drivernephi2212
      @drivernephi2212 Před 5 lety +35

      The Primordial was killed by the Forerunners.
      He better not fucking come back, 343 are constantly making the classic sequel writing mistake that is bringing back characters and things that were supposed to be dead. It's awful writing, it's not surprising, it only insults the fans.

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 5 lety +4

      Driver Nephi I agree. The Primordial’s consciousness lives merely as information and wisedom within the new gravemind that we presumably destroyed in Halo 3
      Assuming the Lore of Halo 3 says we in fact killed the gravemind, then the Primordial’s consciousness and all the memories and knowledge it acquired is truly gone.
      Thus if a new gravemind was made it would be its own self aka without the knowledge of the Primordial.
      HOWEVER if the Halo 3 Lore dictates the gravemind wasn’t killed but only hurt and lost that battle during Halo 3’s ending, THEN the Primodial’s knowledge and wisedom acquired by that same gravemind is still on the table for future lore development.
      CONCLUSION: The Lore of Halo 3 dictates whether the Primordial is still “in the game” or not. So check your Halo 3 sources.

  • @ThePyrobrid
    @ThePyrobrid Před 8 lety +2213

    I love this. Halo isn't just about a guy with a gun in space.

    • @thefakebriskeh
      @thefakebriskeh Před 7 lety +34

      egg xactly

    • @darienchampagne6000
      @darienchampagne6000 Před 7 lety +41

      ThePyrobrid like Infinite warfare

    • @grendelkrieg5742
      @grendelkrieg5742 Před 7 lety +83

      ThePyrobrid it originally was but now that it's done so well it has created a universe around itself unlike doom which never worked to expand its story until recently

    • @blackwingdragonmasta
      @blackwingdragonmasta Před 6 lety +40

      Grendel Krieg actually the original doom does have a story. Doomguy watched his pet bunny get killed by demons so he swore revenge on satan

    • @TheFragrantGangsters
      @TheFragrantGangsters Před 6 lety +12

      Actually even in Combat Evolved it referenced Bornstellar. I think they had shit planned.

  • @frostyguy1989
    @frostyguy1989 Před 8 lety +318

    I don't think 343 has changed the origins of the Domain. Everyone in Halo 5 simply assumes it is Forerunner, because what else could it possibly be? The Forerunners did a pretty good job of wiping the galaxy clean of any evidence the Precursors ever had of existing. Hence the Forerunners are seen as the standard of high-tech.

    • @knightbane3752
      @knightbane3752 Před 6 lety +36

      thats true, I doubt any of the other races (even the Prophets) have even the faintest clue what the Precursors are

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Před 6 lety +3

      Quite possible and probably explained the mistake. And an escape goat.

    • @astral_haze
      @astral_haze Před 6 lety +20

      Yeah, the only people who know of the precursors are ONI, if I remember right, and I if I remember this right too, they thought it was all a lie.

    • @Angryp0nY
      @Angryp0nY Před 5 lety +6

      When the Halo Array was fired it wiped out all of the Star Roads and Precursor structures.

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 Před 4 lety +10

      @@Angryp0nY assumed to that is not the entire case...while it may have destroyed most of them there is still the fact that outside the milky way they existed and before the universe existed they existed..so I mean you don't really know its more of a are they just rebuilding and repairing and all still exist..its all possible..

  • @joeyzanuka866
    @joeyzanuka866 Před 8 lety +918

    Wait, if The Domain is sentient.
    Does that mean it could be controlling Cortana?

    • @joeyzanuka866
      @joeyzanuka866 Před 8 lety +21

      ***** Me too ^^

    • @inbaconwetrust4519
      @inbaconwetrust4519 Před 7 lety +20

      THeViros lefirst whoa, mind blown

    • @ericwilliams4028
      @ericwilliams4028 Před 6 lety +34

      117 Likes, oh yeah. Bad ass number calls for a bad ass quote, Cortana: "What if we miss?", Chief: "We wont."
      Thanks for tuning in folks.

    • @MyMakaveli777
      @MyMakaveli777 Před 6 lety +9

      Smart kid

    • @MarisaFan411
      @MarisaFan411 Před 6 lety +7

      Holy shit this makes a lot of sense

  • @tobiworldwide
    @tobiworldwide Před 8 lety +550

    Im pretty sure the context halo 5 uses when speaking of the mantle is correct. I mean, the main characters dont even know of the precursors so it would seem correct for them to assume it was a forerunner creation, considering they dont even know the extent to their tech, wouldn't be able to tell if a certain tech was precursor or forerunner. They would, untill they find out about the precursors, assume that all advanced tech would be forerunner.

    • @Amexel
      @Amexel Před 8 lety +11

      True

    • @austincraft5732
      @austincraft5732 Před 8 lety +49

      Good point, I don't even think cortana could tell the difference. The books say the forerunners built a lot of their cities on top of precursor ruins so it could all be mixed together by lost time.

    • @benjaminallison9038
      @benjaminallison9038 Před 8 lety +30

      the forerunners did not even know that the domain and the mantle were precursor creations until just before the halos were activated. they had been assuming that both were created by their ancestors prior to the destruction of Gibalb and the erasure of all their records and history that was not part of the domain. so I think it's fair for Cortana to believe the same thing.

    • @ThePyrobrid
      @ThePyrobrid Před 8 lety +36

      Also, as explained in this video, Precursor architecture looks similar to Forerunner architecture. That'd be easy to mix up

    • @Supermario0727
      @Supermario0727 Před 7 lety +10

      I get what you're saying about the characters being ignorant of the Precursors. But that ignorance is not consistent. For example, after the supposed death of Cortana in Halo 4, Master Chief becomes psychologically disturbed and emotionally broken. When Master Chief finds out that Cortana is still alive in Halo 5: Guardians, he is awestruck. Rather than comfort Master Chief and console him, Blue Team instead acts as though Master Chief is fine.

  • @Wolfman7870
    @Wolfman7870 Před 6 lety +1094

    Jesus this is deep. Halo feels like a religion at this point.

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 Před 7 lety +301

    Your videos are actually beginning to convince me that Halo 5's terrible story could be salvaged if a good writer gets behind it. Let's hope that happens and that Halo's story once again becomes legendary.

    • @DaMasta981
      @DaMasta981 Před 7 lety +33

      WafflingMean44 Well, 343 did fire the lead writer after the backlash. Then they hired someone better

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius Před 6 lety +13

      Oh that's fantastic to hear

    • @joshuabenton3785
      @joshuabenton3785 Před 6 lety +11

      If only I had this hope for the Last Jedi

    • @raptordcuo6879
      @raptordcuo6879 Před 4 lety +4

      343 hired Paul Crocker! Crocker was the lead narrative for Batman Arkham Asylum and City!

    • @aquapb893
      @aquapb893 Před 4 lety +1

      Joshua Benton damn dude I felt that

  • @Metalheadspartan
    @Metalheadspartan Před 8 lety +262

    My theory on the domain is that it stretches across the entire universe and the halo array ONLY scarred a small hole in its whole body... Slowly after the halo array fired the gap was closed trough some sort of self healing process :/

    • @Metalheadspartan
      @Metalheadspartan Před 8 lety +6

      Patrick O'Sullivan Yeah I'm thinking the Created is just one of the many ways the Precursors will test Humanity!

    • @brandonlockwood4343
      @brandonlockwood4343 Před 8 lety +7

      My theory is that the domain is a precursor itself

    • @Metalheadspartan
      @Metalheadspartan Před 8 lety +6

      Brandon Lockwood It is a Living being so probably a precursor or greater...

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Před 6 lety +4

      The Domain is a Precursor's construct. However, it is quite possible for sentient being to exist in it sort like the composer.

    • @StephenSternGoth
      @StephenSternGoth Před 6 lety +2

      Do you think that's what was happening when that giant wall is rising on Halo 3 I always thought it was kind of a transformer cuz something was activated forgot what it was what is the level right before the ring explodes

  • @lennardchurch8483
    @lennardchurch8483 Před 8 lety +412

    The one main point I respectfully disagree with you on is in regards to humanity's final test. You say Cortana is weakening the galaxy before a Precursor attack, while I believe that Cortana IS the final test.
    Also, You glossed over the Forerunners' attack on the Precursors and made it sound like the gods were just exterminated, when the explanation more consistent with the books (as I understand them) is that the Precursors eternal existence is not bound to their physical forms, so letting the Forerunners kill them as they did, caused no harm to the Precursors themselves.

    • @syzorst
      @syzorst Před 7 lety +7

      What makes you believe Cortana is humanity's final test? Was she set up by the Flood? She was with the Gravemind for some time during the Human-Covenant War.

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 7 lety +42

      Anthony Doc Cortana in Halo 5 is a rampant fragment of the original, granted meta-stability by the Domain (which is itself actually Abaddon's infinite memory. The reason this fragment of Cortana is functional at all is because she's benefiting from Precursor technology. Also, if you pay attention, most of what she says goes straight back to things the Didact said, or the Gravemind told her.
      If there is to be a final test, I see no reason why it wouldn't be the Created. Additionally, based on my understanding of the Flood, I see no reason for them to re-emerge, given the drastic measures they took to remove themselves from the picture on three occasions. Simply put, if the Flood re-emerge and don't consume everything, it will be obvious that they're holding back, which could prove to undermine their test if humanity doesn't actually believe the galaxy is in mortal danger.

    • @syzorst
      @syzorst Před 7 lety +5

      Lennard Church Hmm.. that is interesting and it would make sense considering Cortana is using the Mantle the same way the Forerunners used it which was Peace through force. But one thing still boggles my mind. How the hell does Cortana have access to the Domain? I thought the Domain was destroyed when the Forerunners activated the Halos Array since the Halos can destroy Precursor artifacts.

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 7 lety +26

      Anthony Doc Check out the story, "Promises to Keep" in the book _Halo Fractures._
      In short, the Domain is the memory of Abaddon, a Precursor ancilla, and when the Halos fired, the Domain was erased, but Abaddon was left otherwise fully functional, and he spent the time after the Halos fired creating new organic life based off of the forerunner constructs scattered around Maethrillian.
      A team of Forerunners did manage to reboot the Domain, beginning its repair process, but I don't know if the memories stored within it would be regained or not. We are dealing with a fictional god-race after all.
      The two ways I can picture Abaddon surviving are that either he's made out of matter instead of whatever "neural physics" is, or that the Precursors had a way to block the Halos but didn't use it anywhere else.

    • @kumo8283
      @kumo8283 Před 7 lety +2

      Lennard Church dayum

  • @nathanj2439
    @nathanj2439 Před 5 lety +29

    Sounds like the precursors aren't originally from our universe and this could mean that they can't be wiped out entirely as they may be in countless universes and could return in that way.

  • @TheLegendofHalo4
    @TheLegendofHalo4 Před 8 lety +19

    Remember the time we all thought that early concept art of the Promethean Knight was a Precursor?

  • @cartho1103
    @cartho1103 Před 8 lety +65

    My theory on why the Domain is still around is that it's universe spanning and the arrays only destroyed it in the Milky Way and like the skin healing from a cut its back in the Milky Way

    • @southwillrise7590
      @southwillrise7590 Před 8 lety

      The Halo array should have at least blasted a giant hole in the Domain in this galaxy (assuming the Domain has a physical location in some higher level slipspace dimension).

    • @shaneebahera8566
      @shaneebahera8566 Před 7 lety +8

      you are implying that the milky way is a significant part of the universe, if the domain spans the entire universe the halo arrays would have been like a pin sized hole

  • @PR0F3SR_X
    @PR0F3SR_X Před 7 lety +67

    I don't know, getting erased from existence or turned into a single cellular organism doesn't sound very fun

    • @InanisNihil
      @InanisNihil Před 7 lety +10

      think of humans... we consist of millions of things living together working as a single unit... our conscious is just the result of the mass of information thats regularly collected to function more properly... xD
      so you never know... it may be fun... but i would rather be the head and not that ass of this single organism... xD bwahaaha

    • @S117M4sterChief
      @S117M4sterChief Před 6 lety +4

      Frigging Fascist Hey, at least you get to sit out on any future conflicts, watch, and much on fourth dimension popcorn.

  • @linkkicksu
    @linkkicksu Před 2 lety +6

    I love how through the whole series we've been fighting what's essentially the vengeful spirit of the Precursors.

  • @NightlessAngel
    @NightlessAngel Před 7 lety +36

    The mantle was just damaged by the halo array. Bornstellar then went back and fixed it. This is stated in Halo: Fractures

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 7 lety +12

      I think you mean the Domain. The Mantle is the responsibility for defending and nurturing the other races of the galaxy.
      Also, the Domain is the memory of Abaddon (the Organon), and Bornstellar's team 'fixing' it was essentially a hard reboot to jumpstart its recovery.

    • @Kodamo442
      @Kodamo442 Před 6 lety +5

      The Mantle is not tangeable it's a mental thing, a mere rule.

  • @CrispyHulk1
    @CrispyHulk1 Před 4 lety +7

    Halo has the most incredible and underrated lore across all forms of entertainment. The Halo universe is so rich with lore, that I’m genuinely afraid that the games will never do it justice. Not unless 343 gets triple the funding and produces a miracle

  • @inkedseahear
    @inkedseahear Před 7 lety +103

    Wait, so the precursors are the origin creators of the Internet?

    • @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange
      @AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange Před 6 lety +24

      John Pierce I N F I N I T E S H I T P O S T I N G ?

    • @TheFragrantGangsters
      @TheFragrantGangsters Před 6 lety +11

      That's why they didn't resist genocide, they were all just spam shitposting in their species-wide group chat the entire time.

    • @techissus7449
      @techissus7449 Před 4 lety +1

      @MinecraftPro15 man the precursors must love them some historical accuracy

  • @rookie4582
    @rookie4582 Před 8 lety +477

    So they were pretty much gods, but got beaten even with their superior technology?

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 8 lety +326

      If you're playing an online game, and an AI kills your character (avatar of yourself), it doesn't mean any harm was done to the real you. Similarly, the Precursors let the Forerunners destroy their mortal forms, because they, themselves were beyond the abilities of the Forerunners to harm.

    • @adventurethroughtime
      @adventurethroughtime Před 8 lety +45

      Well, no; The Precursors were killed. If they had allowed the Forerunners to win, then why would they seek vengeance?

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 8 lety +233

      ***** The Forerunners have to be punished for their hubris. They have no comprehension of what it means to hold the Mantle, but they want it anyway, and will wipe out entire races just to have it.
      I've read through the books multiple times, and what I've seen points to the Flood playing the villain, rather than actually being a psychotic raging mess hellbent on consuming all living things.
      (Think Darth Revan from Kotor 1 & 2, Revan became a Sith to wage war on the Republic to battle-harden it so it would have a chance to survive something much worse which would come later. The Flood's actions throughout the Forerunner Saga and the videogames can easily be described as the manipulation of galactic events to ensure that Humanity attains the Mantle, and is wise enough to use it well when they get it. Too many times throughout the series we see the Flood not being as efficient as it can be towards the goal of consuming everything. However, if their actual goal is molding Humanity to fulfill the Precursors' wishes, then them holding back makes sense.)

    • @adventurethroughtime
      @adventurethroughtime Před 8 lety +60

      The Flood is no longer the Precursors, what essentially happened was after the rings fired; The Flood changed it's objective from getting revenge, to consuming. Because it pretty much went feral, after the original Gravemind(s) were either destroyed or starved to death new ones had to come into being; one that would be comprised more of Human and Covenant species DNA than Precursor.
      There are likely surviving Precursors, as there are surviving Forerunners; but The Flood is a completely different entity who's sole objective is to devour and grow.

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 8 lety +131

      ***** I believe that is the Flood's narrative it gives people. However, through multiple readings of the Forerunner Saga, it seems clear to me that the Flood is not actually trying to consume everything. Everything the Flood does, both before and after the Halos fired, manipulates galactic events to maneuver humanity into a position to hold the Mantle, and I believe this is the Flood's primary purpose after dealing with the Forerunners.
      The Flood simply holds back far too much for any other explanation to fit their actions (in my opinion).

  • @imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406

    "Multitude of galaxies"
    So there could be precursors in other galaxies who wrote this one off.
    HERE BE BATSHIT INSANE DRAGONS.

  • @austincraft5732
    @austincraft5732 Před 8 lety +10

    I've thought about them saying the forerunners built the domain to. Was thinking that maybe it's just that the domain is telling cortana that it was made by the forerunners to deceive cortana into weakening the galaxy to a point where the precursors could attack again.

    • @brandonlockwood4343
      @brandonlockwood4343 Před 8 lety

      the flood

    • @walturnnwhete5062
      @walturnnwhete5062 Před 8 lety +1

      In halo 2, Cortana was left on the flood infested. and because she is composed of organic matter as well as artificial, meaning she can be influenced by the grave mind. since the flood is technically a precursor decendant, perhaps cortana was corrupted by the grave mind in her time on the ship. and at the time of her death somehow transcended to domain to be annexed, but took control of it due fact she had trace amounts of precursor matter

    • @memedealer3076
      @memedealer3076 Před 7 lety

      Josh Lange logic plague

  • @scottharbin1868
    @scottharbin1868 Před 7 lety +15

    I like watching halo lore videos to prove them wrong. YOU ARE THE ONLY GUY THAT IS NEVER WRONG!!!!!

    • @coltonclark8431
      @coltonclark8431 Před 5 lety

      You do know that in the Halo lore, it is stated the Bornstellar (Isodidact) goes to the Abaddon and one of his team mates gives up her life to restart and repair the Domain. It was never stated that it was wiped from existence, just that the forerunners were being denied access to it.

  • @MarisaFan411
    @MarisaFan411 Před 6 lety +6

    I think you forgot to mention that the star roads were used by the flood to destroy the greater ark during the forerunner flood war

  • @michaelcastro9026
    @michaelcastro9026 Před 6 lety +1

    I loved the descriptions of the precursors and their technology. It would be awesome to see it in game.

  • @ReflexHalo
    @ReflexHalo Před 8 lety

    Great video mate and your closing in on 10k as well, that's awesome!

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před 8 lety +1

      +ReflexHalo Thanks brother, I still can't actually believe it haha

  • @tyty8484
    @tyty8484 Před 6 lety +17

    Damn those *Foreigners!!!*

  • @shankeramagaming7239
    @shankeramagaming7239 Před 7 lety +26

    I think Halo 5's script in general was an error.

  • @lapeez2277
    @lapeez2277 Před 4 lety +2

    0:37 that's the fifth dimension

  • @joaovictorbrisch3415
    @joaovictorbrisch3415 Před 8 lety +6

    I have a theory about how the Domain is still present in the Milky Way galaxy after the activation of the Halos.
    What if the Domain is still "alive" because it is somehow attached to all the sort of living beings in a quantum level? (in short words: Domain lives while there's any life form created by the Precursors alive in the galaxy or even in the universe)
    And why would Precursors do that? Well, I can think about two possibilities:
    1: They use all lifeforms they create as a way of sustain all knowledge acquired by those capable of using the Domain (supposing there are others civilizations in other galaxies using it). In short words: a backup to their knowledge.
    2: I'll see an analogy to explain this possibility: they give you the account, but doesn't give password so that you find out by yourself (or until they think you are worthy, if they used to oversee everyone here before the Forerunners kill them). They could have "installed" the "tool" to access the Domain in all candidates to be their successors in the Mantle for convenience (in case the Precursors would teach the successor how to access the Domain) or expecting the real successor would be the first species capable os access the Domain naturally (and being one step closer to the Tier 0)
    I have even crazier theories, but they involve the idea that the Domain may be a living being (as it was showed in Halo: Silentium, when the Domain asked to testify to a Forerunner Juridical)

  • @anthonymaida5896
    @anthonymaida5896 Před 7 lety +6

    RELOAD THE FUCKING SHOTGUN. MY OCD IS KILLING ME

  • @publiccomment2273
    @publiccomment2273 Před 6 lety +16

    Precursors in suspended animation?
    Hmm...

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Před 5 lety +1

      Public Comment Yes it’s like Cryosleep you find in Halo Wars 1 and Halo Wars 2

  • @Segeric
    @Segeric Před 7 lety

    Very interesting and informative! I've wanted to play the newer Halo games but I stopped at 3 because I went over to PC and PS4. Great content, subscribed!

  • @Space-Battles-2020
    @Space-Battles-2020 Před 6 lety +4

    "The Gravemind tells us something impossible to understand- that most of what has been gathered comes from before there were stars. We do not believe in such a time, but the Mind insists … The life-patterns and living wisdom of a hundred billion years".
    "That's the power the Precursors once had ... isn't it? They shaped and moved galaxies! They created
    us! How did we ever manage to defeat them?"
    Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 322). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition.

  • @unoagtagma7326
    @unoagtagma7326 Před 7 lety +17

    I just realized that the Timeless One looks like a warper.

  • @phasma7227
    @phasma7227 Před 6 lety +4

    Song at 5:16? Really need to start giving a track list.

  • @therebel1375
    @therebel1375 Před 8 lety

    awesome video love the lore about halo! you got a sub!

  • @Mrlittleman217
    @Mrlittleman217 Před 4 lety

    I hopped into this series ass backwards with 3 being my first time playing as chief years ago and I was playing catch up with the storyline and lore. Love learning new things even years later now about my childhood favorites.

  • @voldy3565
    @voldy3565 Před 6 lety +3

    what is the song in the start of the video

  • @admiralbriggs997
    @admiralbriggs997 Před 5 lety +3

    5:47 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND

  • @niceengine2571
    @niceengine2571 Před 2 lety +1

    How the fore runners beat the precursors is beyond me

  • @alexanderg1935
    @alexanderg1935 Před 6 lety

    Nice work dude. Good, solid video.

  • @stubrick6869
    @stubrick6869 Před 7 lety +9

    so pretty much like gods

  • @KaosDarkFire
    @KaosDarkFire Před 8 lety +3

    Hello HiddenXperia. I'm new to you channel and as someone who has read the Forerunner novels, I thought that this video was very well done.
    There is a theory that the firing of the Halo Array may not have destroyed the Domain, but at the very least damaged or corrupted it, which may explain Cortana's change in personality after coming in contact with it, in the same manner that a computer's memory can have its data corrupted.
    I also hope at the Precursors will make some kind of appearance in the games and that Halo has not been reduced to a generic "AI Overlord" story. Thoughts?

  • @__skillz
    @__skillz Před 8 lety +2

    That level was hard af on legendary. I get chills looking at it.

  • @xBionicMeltdownx
    @xBionicMeltdownx Před 8 lety

    Speaking more on the Precursors. I would love a spin-off about the Forerunner-Precursor/Flood wars. Would be interesting to see the Precursor's weapons and tech in action. xD Great video!! Love listening to these lore videos.

  • @ThelVendal
    @ThelVendal Před 8 lety +13

    Waited so long for a good video about the precursors :)
    Question: How the Forerunners managed to extinct the Precursors although the precursor have had a never-to-reach TIER?

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před 8 lety +18

      Thanks :) They basically caught them by surprise, and the Precursors were completely unprepared for a full scale war.

    • @ThelVendal
      @ThelVendal Před 8 lety +1

      Oh cool :) Thanks for the fast answer. You're great :D

    • @Matovie
      @Matovie Před 8 lety +4

      My theory is that precursors didn't want to destroy their creations (flood was basically an accident) and fled the galaxy leaving some of them behind to make it look like they were defeated.

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 8 lety +15

      I have an alternate answer. The depiction of the Precursors from the Forerunner Saga puts them existing outside of space and time, which would make them literally unreachable for the Forerunners. The "Precursors" exterminated would be the biological forms that Precursors had made for themselves to serve as avatars to interact with space-time in a more personal way.
      The novels state that the Precursors didn't fight back. This makes sense with my explanation because if the destruction of their bodies isn't a threat to their existence, they don't really need to fight, and allowing the Forerunners to go as far as they did, simply proved why the Forerunners weren't worthy to hold the Mantle.
      It is also implied in Halo: CE, as well as the Forerunner Saga that the Forerunners and Humanity may have once been the same species, but the divergence was due to one faction performing extensive genetic engineering on themselves to try to create the perfect race. So the Precursors may have promised the initial race that they would inherit the Mantle, but when the race split into two, they chose the non-genetically self-engineered race (humanity).

    • @Matovie
      @Matovie Před 8 lety

      +Lennard Church Or maybe they realized at bungie/343 that they made precursors extremely overpowered and decided to step away from them saying just that they're gone.

  • @Helljumper-lv7pk
    @Helljumper-lv7pk Před 7 lety +10

    Wait why is the video on for 9:11 seconds

  • @CeedeeableOne
    @CeedeeableOne Před 8 lety +2

    Maybe the Domain wasn't destroyed because it was not a physical thing. At least in the books.

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim
    @Just_Call_Me_Tim Před 4 lety

    Great video! Something that might give you a chuckle: CZcams thinks when you say “forerunner” that you’re actually saying “foreigner”! CZcams’s having a go at everyone who’s watching the preview before tapping on the video.

  • @McSkyler91
    @McSkyler91 Před 7 lety +3

    Maybe the Flood rebuilt the Domain after all, "Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills its food..." "...the only way to beat the Flood was to starve them to death."

    • @InanisNihil
      @InanisNihil Před 7 lety +1

      until you find out that all those flood forms in containment on ancient forerunner structures all over the place haven't eaten a thing in millions of years... xb guess they dont starve either and its another thing the halo characters mistakenly assume.. xb

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius Před 6 lety

      Well the ones housed on rings were kept for study so it's fairly reasonable the rings kept them alive to keep trying to find ways to combat them.

  • @jordibuchner
    @jordibuchner Před 8 lety +13

    the forerunners kinda forgot that the domain was a precursor construct aswell in the defence of the writers.

    • @nickmarcum2203
      @nickmarcum2203 Před 6 lety +1

      jordi buchner also the characters in h5 didn’t even know that the precursors existed so they assumed the forerunners created it

  • @smasherlord
    @smasherlord Před 2 lety +1

    I would say that the domain is in another dimension, and what happened when the halo arrays were fired, the domain wasn’t destroyed, but instead the parts that allow beings to access the domain were destroyed. And because it’s organic, it just rebuilt itself over thousands of years. The domain maybe even just shut out the forruners and that’s why they couldn’t access it after the arrays were fired.
    I also like the theory of the precursors being the flood intentionally, not as a form of corruption. That’s an awesome theory too

  • @GhostSlay3r
    @GhostSlay3r Před 8 lety

    Nice video! :D Thanks for making :)

  • @Paul-A01
    @Paul-A01 Před 6 lety +5

    Maybe in the next game we'll find out that there was an even older species that was more advanced and more bullshit!

  • @zacimusprime4865
    @zacimusprime4865 Před 5 lety +4

    Jesus not even the smartest humans could comprehend 4 dimensions

  • @Jasuuvius
    @Jasuuvius Před 8 lety

    btw thank 4 making this video I've always been the most interested in in the halo lore of the precursors out of anything except the chief

  • @JesuSoup
    @JesuSoup Před 8 lety

    great video as always

  • @olivermendonca9545
    @olivermendonca9545 Před 8 lety +4

    did the Precursors know before hand that the dust would be contaminated and mutate ? because they used it as a act of revenge, so they must have known before hand ???
    how did the Forerunners defeat the Precursors?
    the Precursors were way more advanced by a lot.
    thats one thing i did not understand bout the Forerunner Trilogy.

    • @drearyplane8259
      @drearyplane8259 Před 8 lety +2

      Perhaps the precursors were peaceful creatures who couldn't use their abilities for war?

    • @TwittyRaw
      @TwittyRaw Před 7 lety

      The precursors are beings outside of space and time. The forerunners only defeated most of their physical interactional forms. However the precursors are basically God in a scenes, so they aren't dead

    • @taelorpickel2830
      @taelorpickel2830 Před rokem

      Halo novelization makes it clear that the Precursors pre-conceptualized their defeat. So it was a planned event anywho to test the Forerunners and to make a point they don't deserve the Mantle of Responsibility. The Precursors were admittedly surprised by the rebellion. However, it's like how people's avatars or factions are defeated or killed by AI in a video game, it doesn't really legitimately affect them in reality.

  • @crosshair9907
    @crosshair9907 Před 8 lety +20

    First yea #SaveTheFalcon

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před 8 lety +7

      #SaveTheHornet ;)

    • @vShadowWARRIORv
      @vShadowWARRIORv Před 8 lety

      +HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! I'd like a hornet a lot more than a falcon.

    • @vanaheimstories7530
      @vanaheimstories7530 Před 7 lety +2

      HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! What if the Precursors are still alive but in another Galaxy watching, waiting to return to aid the Milky Way Galaxy on rebuilding their home world and help other species after the flood war

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 Před 5 lety

      THANOS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Satmp.
    @Satmp. Před 2 lety +1

    Halo: precursors
    Pacific rim: precursors
    Subnautica: precursors

  • @spartanmchugh
    @spartanmchugh Před 2 lety

    The nucleus of one single flood cell, contains all the knowledge of the precursors, the domain is inside of every flood super cell

  • @Dexieboi2013
    @Dexieboi2013 Před 8 lety +300

    so basically the precursors are Jesus?

    • @Dexieboi2013
      @Dexieboi2013 Před 8 lety +106

      the precursors died for the forerunners sins.

    • @derpdog3107
      @derpdog3107 Před 8 lety +3

      lol

    • @formalbug5716
      @formalbug5716 Před 7 lety +24

      only more believable

    • @misterman3187
      @misterman3187 Před 7 lety

      Collyn Brown as if

    • @misterman3187
      @misterman3187 Před 6 lety +6

      WORLD WAR HULK PLAYS so a being that defies the laws of life and physics suddenly is more believable than Jesus...
      1)Jesus is magical and shit
      2) precursors are magical and shit (also they're from a video game that makes up its own science)
      3)???
      4)precursors are more likely to have existed than Jesus
      sounds to me like someone's biased against religion

  • @son0flaw366
    @son0flaw366 Před 7 lety +3

    What's with the constant weapon swap

    • @Anonymous-yq6wy
      @Anonymous-yq6wy Před 7 lety

      James Lawson cause most people find it satisfien. like myself

    • @sethminter7643
      @sethminter7643 Před 7 lety +3

      James Lawson also for the flamethrower and turrets, dropping and grabbing them lets you move slightly faster

  • @JustMirai
    @JustMirai Před 7 lety

    i just found your channel and oh god im learning so much

  • @justjerrence6336
    @justjerrence6336 Před 8 lety

    +HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! Your videos are great they really help to explain a lot of thingsI don't yet know about the lore since I haven't read the Forerunner Saga yet. Thanks Hidden!

  • @doktorbone
    @doktorbone Před 7 lety +35

    What if the precursor allowed the forrunners to "kill" them and restarted as humans

  • @Helljumper-lv7pk
    @Helljumper-lv7pk Před 7 lety +3

    Wait are u playing on easy

  • @Amexel
    @Amexel Před 8 lety

    Another awesome video :)

  • @DJREMIXjames
    @DJREMIXjames Před 5 lety +1

    what's the soundtrack playing in the beginning???

  • @webduelist
    @webduelist Před 7 lety +9

    ...... when did halo get this..... stupid.... I miss the days of halo 1 and 2, where the flood origins were unknown other than they were from another galaxy, Humans were Forrunner that survived the firing of the Halo rings. And the Covenant were just misguided.

    • @paigebettencourt2382
      @paigebettencourt2382 Před 6 lety +2

      webduelist Nah, this is much better. The story is much, much more fleshed out.

  • @fiftybabies1872
    @fiftybabies1872 Před 5 lety +3

    The video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds long...

  • @backyardaviator2920
    @backyardaviator2920 Před 4 lety

    Pretty curious tho but whats the name of Halo's Vers. Of a Cartoon in which youve used in all of ur vids?

  • @loC2ol
    @loC2ol Před 4 lety

    Bro love you and your content!!! Keep it up!! You getting me Hypeed for Infinite!!!

  • @ironwall4889
    @ironwall4889 Před 6 lety +5

    You got the whole tier thing backwards. Tier 0 is primitive not tier 7.

  • @raaaaaaaaaam496
    @raaaaaaaaaam496 Před 8 lety +4

    Bullshit 343 added in their forerunner saga.

    • @LeavingGoose046
      @LeavingGoose046 Před 8 lety +7

      Still has some of the best books in Halo lore history, like they are simply amazing.

    • @halowraith1
      @halowraith1 Před 8 lety +7

      hurr durr 343 ruined halo /s
      whether you like it or not its part of the universe now. games change over time. get the fuck over it.

    • @razzah1454
      @razzah1454 Před 8 lety

      halowraith1 u snacked on our b8 m8.

    • @halowraith1
      @halowraith1 Před 8 lety

      ***** gr8 b8 i r8 8/8

    • @seinarukishi9228
      @seinarukishi9228 Před 8 lety +1

      +halowraith1 they added stuff that was ridiculous though.

  • @PrimeTimeChriz
    @PrimeTimeChriz Před 5 lety

    I love your videos bro haha like you and halo follower are who i listen to for halo knowledge

  • @mranger111
    @mranger111 Před 7 lety

    what was the halo song being played in the first half of the video, i can't remember it but i love it

  • @maxawesom3850
    @maxawesom3850 Před 7 lety +7

    I turn around for like 5 (years) minutes and the halo lore is absolute rubble. Halo was a game series about UNSC vs covenant oh and also there is ancient Zombies with some mystery about a long gone race.
    Promethian Promethian Primordial pre-halo-mankind Precursors
    Im sorry what? this is like some low tier fiction written by a Twelve year old.

    • @NegaGandhi
      @NegaGandhi Před 7 lety +5

      Max Awesom This lore has been around for a long time, bud. More than 5 years

    • @maxawesom3850
      @maxawesom3850 Před 7 lety

      Not really.
      Look. first of all, the principal problem with the presentation of the forerunners, really beginning with halo 4, is that they went from mysterious set dressing to having a feature role in the story in the form of enemies. i heard a complaint (one of the big Halo you tubers) that these structures have been desolate for 100k years, how are they still in prime condition, floaty bits included (the map "high noon", a remake of hang 'em high, and ironically one of 343's first contributions to the halo cannon is in my eyes one of the best depictions of how Forerunners should be. things are in working order but desolate and dust covered). How is a race 100k years gone still as active and dangerous to/as our current protagonist factions?

  • @papertuxedo
    @papertuxedo Před 6 lety +2

    I would love to see a precourser in and have them destroy the flood thinking of them as malfunctions

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 Před 5 lety

      The precursors aren't machines and neither are the flood

  • @spaghetti___824
    @spaghetti___824 Před 4 lety

    I like that flame thrower trick you was doing

  • @mm-rj3vo
    @mm-rj3vo Před 6 lety

    I think that humans thought it was a forerunner construct, prior to Cortana accessing it and realizeing it is more.

  • @josuealcivar9807
    @josuealcivar9807 Před rokem +1

    Watching this video after halo infinite and the endless is so awesome. You were right in many of your thoughts.

    • @FlavioSantos-uw1mr
      @FlavioSantos-uw1mr Před rokem +2

      "Canonically we would lose... hard" To be honest I don't think the idea of ​​defeating a single isolated Precursor without its technology let alone one who admitted to being just a messenger and not a warrior. Quite acceptable it is true that John had more problems dealing with the Didact but he was the leader of the Foreruners' military forces and had many improvements made to his own body, moreover the Precursors are said to be a very advanced civilization but not a civilization made of gods, they were hunted across the galaxy by the Foreruners and many were trying to escape. So the idea that we can fight Harbringer as she tries to establish a connection and fight the weapon and (possibly) Offencive Bias to me is acceptable, however how we are going to fight ALL species in the future is complicated

  • @Onewingerdraven
    @Onewingerdraven Před 3 lety

    Imagine having such a huge and deep lore and focusing most of your budget and communication on storyless multiplayer

    • @Chiefinnn
      @Chiefinnn Před 3 lety

      The multiplayer is what keeps the game alive and is beloved by the entire fanbase. Try again

    • @Onewingerdraven
      @Onewingerdraven Před 3 lety

      @@Chiefinnn I know and I'm glad it is. I just wish there was more lore-related ingame content

  • @javyermurillo4139
    @javyermurillo4139 Před 3 lety

    4 years later we now know, surviving Forerunner at the last request of the Librarian reconstructed the Domain but not without sacrificing one of the workers and tried for their crimes by a Primordial. Now we know.

  • @jacobsmith1572
    @jacobsmith1572 Před 5 lety +1

    The Organon does not exist. It was a rumor that originated from the Precursor construct known as Abaddon, which the Forerunner capital Maethrillian was built around. The IsoDidact and other Forerunners deactivated it when they returned to Maethrillian decades after the Halos fired.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Před 5 lety

      Well, see Halo Fractures, where it seems like that may not be fully true...

  • @Gnurklesquimp
    @Gnurklesquimp Před 6 lety

    Does anyone know the music that plays for the first couple of minutes?

  • @stevenc8717
    @stevenc8717 Před 8 lety

    great video!

  • @JosephElliottColeman
    @JosephElliottColeman Před 8 lety +2

    What is the name of the music playing in the background?

    • @zeruuelgaming
      @zeruuelgaming Před 4 lety

      Halo 4 OST, dunno their specific titles tho

  • @AJ-js4xi
    @AJ-js4xi Před 7 lety

    This explains so much.

  • @preciouswes1289
    @preciouswes1289 Před 6 lety

    I learned a lot, thank you 😀

  • @LockeLynx
    @LockeLynx Před 2 lety +1

    all this happened because the after the Forerunners betrayal, the Precursors weren't reminded of the ideas of love and compassion for life, and instead retained pain, anger, sadism.
    in short, because they never got hugs.

  • @thatguywithemail1431
    @thatguywithemail1431 Před 4 lety

    The Precursors Constructs could possibly have a regenerative property to them leading to the eventual restoration of the Domain and other Precursor Artifacts and Constructs yet to be discovered.

  • @monkeycat48
    @monkeycat48 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love how deep we go into these Halo lores😎😎😎

  • @warrengouldthorpe5091
    @warrengouldthorpe5091 Před 4 lety

    I saw a video online explaining that the librarian sent a few forrunners to repair the domain after the halo awary was fired 100,000 years ago

    • @lennardchurch8483
      @lennardchurch8483 Před 3 lety

      Yes, if I recall correctly, the specific short story that tells that tale is "Promises to Keep".

  • @user78405
    @user78405 Před 2 lety

    you know, precursors thought turning itself dust like endless did will resurrect themselves for vengeance and malice to forerunners

  • @uranium8147
    @uranium8147 Před 10 měsíci

    What was the first song that played in the background?

  • @underthebed9222
    @underthebed9222 Před 4 lety +1

    does anyone know the background music

  • @biggusballuz5405
    @biggusballuz5405 Před 6 lety

    It's simple, the domain is stored in a faraday cage like container that prevents it from being destroyed by the halos.

  • @zachhughes5973
    @zachhughes5973 Před 7 lety

    My guess for the presence of the domain is the same for the reason why the Didact survived. I'm guessing there was some sort of hub for the domain, like an internet server, protected inside shield worlds.

  • @trishapastas2961
    @trishapastas2961 Před 6 lety

    It's actually explained in the halo fractures short story "promises to keep" that a century after the Halos are fired, bornstellar and a group of remaining forerunners travel to maethrillian to restore the domain

  • @slimshadus
    @slimshadus Před 4 lety

    I wish there would be a movie about this coming once