Ultimate Solo Class for NEW and returning players Tier List in City of Heroes!

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  • Discover the ultimate guide to dominating City of Heroes as a solo player! In this in-depth video, we delve into the world of solo classes and rank them in a comprehensive tier list. Whether you're a seasoned hero or just starting your journey, this tier list will help you choose the perfect class to conquer the challenges that lie ahead. Join us as we analyze each class's strengths, weaknesses, and unique abilities, providing valuable insights to optimize your solo gameplay experience. Don't miss out on this essential resource for all City of Heroes enthusiasts! Watch now and unleash your true solo potential!
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  • @rogerwilco2
    @rogerwilco2 Před 6 měsíci +21

    City of Heroes is back!
    Homecoming and others have been running the game for the past 3.5 years and have now gotten an official licence from NCsoft to continue the game!

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yeah I just read the announcement and getting ready to do a video about it.

  • @MagnusItland
    @MagnusItland Před 6 měsíci +22

    For a brand new player, I would move the Tanker up to A and the Stalker down to C. The survivability of the Tanker is crucial when you are still unfamiliar with the power scaling of the game and the layout of the zones and keep running into mobs that would one-hit most other things than Tanker and Brute. Conversely, when you are unfamiliar with the game, the hospital runs for the Stalker become quite a nuisance. They creep up in range as you become familiar with the game and learn things like aggro ranges, and how much damage the different archetypes and lieutenants and bosses can take and deal.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Tanker is put in the A category, as for the Stalker is in the S tier due to the stealth and assain attack.

    • @blacktwincrow3427
      @blacktwincrow3427 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Depending on your build for stalker. If you go for pure damage yes survival can be frustrating. But if you build on decent defensive abilities you can survive most and even solo Giant Monsters.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@blacktwincrow3427 I agree with you about the ways to build stalkers.

    • @BossTripp1
      @BossTripp1 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ControlledChaosGaming Exactly, Stalker is S tier on this list.

  • @gamingguru2k6
    @gamingguru2k6 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I know this is server specific, but Guardian is kind of a jack-of-all-trades and has helped me learn the game a bit more.

  • @Sorapis420
    @Sorapis420 Před 5 měsíci +4

    There are no tiers in this game .. unless you look at it from a solo perspective, everyone watching this vid .. just play what is fun for you . At end game everyone is OP

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +4

      That is true but with a lot of new players coming to the game for the first time. They have been asking me what would be a good class for new players for soloing. That is what the tier list is for.

  • @artsguy515
    @artsguy515 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Controllers of CoH, put him in a hold! Controllers get buffed damaged on creatures held.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, they do but due to their low damage output, they take a long time to take out the enemies. That is why I put them where I did.

  • @BB-dr2zs
    @BB-dr2zs Před 6 měsíci +12

    Omg omg omg please tell me how to re-download my favorite game of all time. The SOLE game that got into and made me LOVE MMORPG. Where do I have to go????? Please god tell me

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +3

      There are a lot of different servers to play on. Here is a video that goes over how to get on all of them czcams.com/video/3kfnDCekRLM/video.html

    • @fredgilbert2032
      @fredgilbert2032 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Just look up City of Heroes Homecoming - They even got a license now so they are now legit and won't get shut down.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@fredgilbert2032 So we hope, but even Homecoming states that this is not a guarantee of not getting shut down. As NCSoft still have the rights to shut them down if they want to.

    • @sabatheus
      @sabatheus Před 5 měsíci +1

      One of us! One of us!

  • @stephencooper3583
    @stephencooper3583 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Funny thing is that Arachnos soldiers start out slow... but are absolute bad asses at later levels. Plus you can switch builds, which pretty much give you 2 different playstyles on the same character.
    Crab Build - massive AOE. With the right build, by the time you go through one attack rotation, everything is dead but an occasional boss. And if you go "Crabbermind" (which you should), your pets will chew up anyone left. Hard to describe... kind of an AOE blaster with pets and survivability.
    Bane Build - kind of like a Stalker but tough enough to stay and fight it out. Do a heavy crit attack on the boss, then clean up the rest. With Mace mastery, you get a 'superior' attack that crits. Then you just beat the hell out of the underlings. Fun to play... like a Scrapper or Brute, but you get that big Stalker-ish sneak attack to start with. You 'could' take a few ranged attacks too, but I wouldn't bother.
    I haven't played in a while, but back in the day, my 3 most overpowered characters were my Brute, my Crabbermind, and my Perma-Dom, in that order. Sometimes it felt like the game was broken because missions were almost too easy. 😆

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 4 měsíci +1

      You are correct and you will have to see how I rank them when I do my most powerful Archetype list.

  • @cliffhamrickwrites2378
    @cliffhamrickwrites2378 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I like running stalkers on Redside because there are fewer villains than heroes and I usually end up playing solo. And I also like playing rogue/assassin type characters.

  • @Funky_Ghost
    @Funky_Ghost Před 5 měsíci +4

    Controllers aren't the hardest to level solo. I was in beta then live. Played a Empathy/Mind main during my entire live --> shut-down. Worst right? Nah. Safest. Slowest.... yeah, you got me there. You sleep everything, you snipe one at a time using holds and lil pew pews, you get in over your head you fly off. heal, re-engage. Slow.. sure, but no exp debt. You are self sufficient. More importantly you need to think. It requires tactics, knowledge of damage types and a reasonable amount of situational awareness. Just my Opinion, as you say :)
    My personal fav AT to play was my Stone Melee/Willpower tanker.

  • @johnjafon2410
    @johnjafon2410 Před měsícem +2

    this is the content I want

  • @scrapperlock9437
    @scrapperlock9437 Před 5 měsíci +1

    As someone who started playing in closed beta, I mostly agree with this list. I would probably swap tankers down to high B tier and move Dominators up to A tier. Tankers are more survivable, especially early on, but they take forever to get through content solo. Dominators can do things like confuse enemies and make them attack each other, while attacking them and taking no aggro back because of the confuse. And as you said, there is Domination, which makes them brutal. I almost exclusively solo COH, and the 5 ATs that I cycle between are Scrapper, Brute, Stalker, MM, and Dominator. I won't touch any of the others solo.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks, and I see where you are coming from with the points you made and it makes me think if I should for my opinions change that around.

  • @100Crackfist
    @100Crackfist Před 4 měsíci +3

    Basically blasters, take hover travel power and then they are basically A tier.
    Snipe no melee mobs can hit you more or less and they hit like a truck

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 4 měsíci

      That is a good tactic for open spaces but enclosed spaces like the small caves and office corridors will not work.

  • @wallacebonner7939
    @wallacebonner7939 Před 5 měsíci +4

    You must be new to the game; defender is the hardest to solo with, and controllers can clear a map faster than anyone in the game once you get past the early levels, never mind being supremely safe. The speed at which tanks can clear a map would put them just ahead of defenders. The two arachnos classes are at least B. same with the blaster.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      Way the opposite I have been playing the game since it was in beta. I guess you did not hear the part where I said these are my opinions.

    • @wallacebonner7939
      @wallacebonner7939 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ControlledChaosGaming I heard that part, I just surmised that opinion was due to a lack of evidence-based gameplay, as i couldn't see any other way for you to arrive at those conclusions, especially on the reasoning you provided. Hopefully players will look through the comments to get alternative views. Good luck with your channel and have fun in CoH, some of the end-game raids are a lot more fun that I remembered from my retail days of playing it.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@wallacebonner7939 yeah I hope others read through the comments also. As others will share there thought and tactics. Heck many times people have brought up ideas that I have turned into videos.

    • @Thebuffshaman
      @Thebuffshaman Před 3 měsíci

      yeah I was saying the same thing to myself as I tried to pick my jaw off the floor when he put controllers so low.@@wallacebonner7939

  • @holonholon1141
    @holonholon1141 Před měsícem +1

    Controller varies hugely in how solo friendly it is, based on the primary you pick. I've taken four trollers through a Praetorian start, and I definitely felt the solo efficacy differences. For instance Illusion has innate perfect stealth, the invincible taunt pet army, and high damage output, making it an absolutely amazing solo troller primary. On the other hand, Electric suffers from absolutely abysmal damage output and struggled with any escorts or kill all missions I had to deal with.
    My other two trollers were MC, which would have struggled on escorts and kill all missions had I put it down a story path that involved those, and Traps which is very reliant on its AoE confuse for damage.
    Having played a Fire Tanker and Kheldian now too I'd say Troller could be anywhere from S tier to D tier based on the set you choose. Illusion really does feel like playing the game with cheats enabled.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před měsícem +1

      You make a good point about controllers being able to solo based on what powersets they choose and you are right. This guide is for new and returning players just getting used to the game for the first time or refreshing their memories. That is why I put them where I did.

    • @holonholon1141
      @holonholon1141 Před měsícem +1

      @@ControlledChaosGamingI actually was basically totally new to CoH when I made the questionable decision to try Praetoria on a troller, hehehe. I was a total newbie in Live and lived in Praetoria, never making it out, so that's why I started in Praetoria when I came back to Homecoming. I'd argue, even as a new player, troller is pretty starkly either amazing and in control, or frustratingly weak.

  • @samanthaquinn3003
    @samanthaquinn3003 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I started back in 04' with a Blaster, who remained my main until the game shut down. I recreated her for Homecoming and I still would argue that it is a good solo experience. Well, depending on the type and how you spec it out. Right now, mid-twenties I can one-shot snipe LT's up to orange, then use heavy and medium attacks to take down the 1-2 minions in a few additional hits. No downtime either. It is a more methodical approach, but it is fast.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      You are correct but Blasters are glass cannons and would not be a good chose for someone new to the game.

    • @samanthaquinn3003
      @samanthaquinn3003 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ControlledChaosGaming I won't argue that, but they can be a lot of fun to solo once you get your legs under you.

    • @RemyRivers
      @RemyRivers Před 5 měsíci +1

      Corruptor being like a dominator? It's like a blaster/defender.....

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@RemyRivers Yeah that was a mistake I wanted to say Defender but for some reason, my mouth said, Dominator. I did not catch that until someone else pointed it out to me in the comments.

  • @Coolness01
    @Coolness01 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ooh...this is quite the list, indeed.

  • @patchjohnston4133
    @patchjohnston4133 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is this for the leveling experience only? Or does it correlate to soloing power at end game / farming also?
    I'm new to the game, and picked a Widow. Love the attacks, but in the 20s I am starting to feel it.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      This is for the new players or returning players getting use to the game.

    • @patchjohnston4133
      @patchjohnston4133 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@ControlledChaosGaming Thank you! I think I asked my question poorly. I am a new player. If I pick a bottom tier character on this list - is thar ALSO indicative of how they will perform in Solo at the end of the game? Or is this list basically the first 24 or so levels like discussed in the Arachnos section.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@patchjohnston4133 That is a hard one to answer as some of them start out hard to solo and get easier like some blasters but not all. Then some Archetypes start out somewhat easy to solo, and then it gets harder to solo with them. It is also based on the powersets you choose.

    • @patchjohnston4133
      @patchjohnston4133 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@ControlledChaosGaming Thanks! I will do some more research on the power sets specifically then also.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@patchjohnston4133 Soon I will be doing videos going over the powersets themselves.

  • @jonathanross149
    @jonathanross149 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The best solo controller I ever found is the Illusion/radiation.

    • @sagamohr
      @sagamohr Před 5 měsíci

      Do you like it better than Illusion / Dark, or have you tried that? I'm curious how they stack up and trying to pick a secondary for one I'm about to roll.

    • @khandragon7950
      @khandragon7950 Před 5 měsíci

      @@sagamohr as another Illusion/Radiation user, i can say that it is probably better than the Darkness.. Haven't run an Illusion/Dark up, but have run Dark on others, and from playing the two secondaries i can say Rad fits better with the Illusion and gives a massive boost to skill recharge letting you get that much closer to Perma-Specters.. plus with dark healing you need to be in the thick of the action to utilize it and it does nothing for your spooks as they are invulnerable.. Rad lets you heal around you.. and those AoE gimps from it make trouble for the enemy.. ;)

    • @NIGHTMARE-zy7tq
      @NIGHTMARE-zy7tq Před 5 měsíci

      At one time I would say Fire/Ice, controller but not anymore.. Bk in the original release, but in 2012 they must have nurfed it. I just came bk and there is no way to play it

  • @tperfect7241
    @tperfect7241 Před 6 měsíci +29

    Wait…city of heroes is still alive??

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +6

      Yes due to private servers, and there are many to choose from. Each server has changed or added to the game in different ways.

    • @gasser5001
      @gasser5001 Před 5 měsíci +8

      And NOOOW it's LEGIT!!!!

    • @tperfect7241
      @tperfect7241 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ControlledChaosGaming have the graphics been updated?

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@gasser5001 Yep talk about the perfect time to play the game.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@tperfect7241 No they have not been.

  • @That_Eriksson
    @That_Eriksson Před 5 měsíci +1

    Any advice of a nice duo set up me and a buddy gonna play together we probably would prefer to do the Tank / Heal duo if you have any advice :)?

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      The advice I have is you each play the powersets that interest you. Or talk to one another while you are in character creation and looking around at the power pools and find what combination sounds fun. The main thing is that the damage dealer of the duo needs to stay away from powersets with many knockbacks like the energy powerset. Otherwise, the other player will spend most of their time chasing you around.

    • @sailboat908
      @sailboat908 Před 5 měsíci

      Once your Tanker is set up you will find little-to-absolutely-no healing necessary. Tanker and some form of damage dealer would be a better match.

    • @Harlequin565
      @Harlequin565 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Blaster & Defender/Corruptor. Both get damage, but the Def/Cor can make the blaster have Scrapper/Brute levels of defence alongside their a-class damage. A pair of Defenders would also work nicely and it would even up the buffing duties (or choose a buff & debuff set like Empathy/Rad). You don't really need a Tank/Heal duo as the Tank often doesn't need the support. If you're planning to run x8 for your 2 man team, then something to hold agro (Tank/Brute) might benefit, but if you're running at x2-x4 a blaster to wipe the spawns and a Defender to keep them alive through the alpha strike (or debuff so the alpha strike kills everything) would be more efficient. As others have mentioned, you can pretty much put any pair together and make it work. Some will just be slower is all. Empathy is often looked down on but 2 Emps with Fort permanently on each other (30% damage buff) and Assault (2x18% damage buff) quickly racks up the damage. With Regen and Recovery Aura and Adrenalin Boost on each other, you could probably even skip the heals altogether and just mow stuff down.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Harlequin565 Those are a lot of great tips thanks for sharing them.

  • @pasqualecirone9755
    @pasqualecirone9755 Před 5 měsíci +2

    While they're awesome in a team, I've often soloed with controllers all the way. I do the same with dominators. When everything is locked down, you can handle the rest. That being said, yeah brutes and scrappers can solo really well. And I LOVE warshades and widows - also on your D tier. It's like, I agree with you, and I often solo, but I enjoy soloing with these.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      I know what you mean I love soloing with my elec/elec blaster.

    • @khandragon7950
      @khandragon7950 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Warshades!!! Massive Kuhl Man.. ;) and with just one power pool choice become every bit as sweet as Peacebringer and then some.. Add hover to eliminate falling and teleport to your hearts content.. and with Homecoming's upgrades to classes and powersets it is even nicer than before.. :) Tri-Form Rulez hehehee

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@khandragon7950 Yeah Warshades is interesting with just one powerset chosen and also that you do not need to take a travel power since they are in the powerset.

    • @khandragon7950
      @khandragon7950 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ControlledChaosGaming the one powerset chosen part i was talking about is the Fly Power Pool and taking the Hover skill.. only need the one slot in it, just to let you hover between teleport aimings without dropping out of the sky hehehe or to pause for a min after using most of your energy, to recharge.. or even to just get up out of the way when you bite off more than you can chew outdoors.. ;) Hover also has that nice defensive perk that keeps you from getting tossed long distances from knockbacks, it does not prevent it, but limits the distances good.. utilizing the full Tri-Form builds from the actual Warshade Powersets makes for a very sweet character that can do almost anything needed.. in the original game the Kheldians were limited with powers from form only, but Homecoming has adjusted things a bit so that you can use powers in the forms and are no longer forced to just use them in human form.. or it was last time i logged in.. ;)

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@khandragon7950 I also like to get hover when I have teleport as my travel power. I think Homecoming did a good thing with making that change.

  • @dominicramos759
    @dominicramos759 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I play solo because I can't find a group, miss those days of having a super group to roll with

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      That might change soon with how busy Homecoming is getting along with the other servers.

    • @rogue109
      @rogue109 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I've been playing the last couple weeks...I've had no problems getting groups for TF's and other things. I often have to ask how to get around because travel is complicated in this game, but everyone is super cool and patient and I am loving this game again.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@rogue109 That is what I like about the CoH community the majority of them are helpful.

  • @SaltyPatriotHD
    @SaltyPatriotHD Před 5 měsíci +2

    I feel like the mastermind should of been S tyr. If you roll one of the top 4 or 5 builds you should be able to turn your settings up to 2 players fairly early on running solo.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      The main reason I put them as A tier is due to the lack of personal attacks. This means the player is not doing much as their pets are doing all the work. This can feel boring to some players and you don't want that when trying to get someone into the game unless they like that play style.

    • @SaltyPatriotHD
      @SaltyPatriotHD Před 5 měsíci +1

      I can see that. And after some thought, they can be tricky to keep your pets in line. Probably a little complicated if you're talking to new players as well.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@SaltyPatriotHD Controlling the pets is another good reason they are in A tier. I know many times they have started a fight when I was not ready. Most of the player's time is spent controlling the pets when you are a Mastermind. I find that fun and I think that is the main reason they are my favorite Archetype.

  • @patricklafontaine5969
    @patricklafontaine5969 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I use to play this hardcore. I'd say Arach Soldier is better at solo than blaster. Peacebringers are strong.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, both of those Archetypes are strong but I would not recommend them to new players as they are just starting to get a hang of the main mechanics of the game. Both of those Archetypes have unique mechanics that are only for that class. That is why I have them lower on the list for new players to try the class.

  • @BlackStarr007
    @BlackStarr007 Před 3 měsíci +1

    is there a list for Villain's or is it the same as hero's?

  • @StuartHeading
    @StuartHeading Před 5 měsíci +2

    If you could find time to make a vid showing each of the classes in game, showing attack/gameplay etc that be most appreciated 😊

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I do here is the link to the playlist of them. czcams.com/video/MkAshmODQ6g/video.html

  • @Nojmerk
    @Nojmerk Před 17 dny +1

    you called the scrapper icon stalker. lmao

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 16 dny

      OOPs well, I guess that is better than calling a blaster a tank. but still, a slip-up is a slip-up, I swear I know the difference.

  • @deadpoet4
    @deadpoet4 Před 5 měsíci +2

    It all comes down to playstyle. Of all the classes, I found it easiest to solo 1-50 with a Controller. Granted, it also comes down to powersets and optimizations. With controller, you use a lot of stamina, so you want to focus on reducing that. A build with Gravity Control/Radiation Emission gives you damage/holds/stamina mitigation out of the box.

  • @MrRich2u
    @MrRich2u Před 6 měsíci +8

    Drop the Stalker to C tier, It's a one trick pony like the blaster. Bring the Arachnid soldier to solid B, It's a scrapper lite. Widow to C tier. Blapper to C. Defender to D tier. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. :)

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +1

      You bring up a good point about the Stalker. The only reason the arachnids are in D tier is due to the respect with the choices you are forced to do mid-level along with the choices of the subclass. This would be confusing to new players.

    • @psychocop2481
      @psychocop2481 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@ControlledChaosGaming To be fair to VEATs and HEATs, they were intended to be unlocked after you got a level 50 originally, so of coure they will have more problems for new players, so D tier is pretty warranted. I think imo that endurance should have played more of a role in the consideration of choices, like Blaster gets some nice endurance from their secondaries, so they should be a bit higher because of that, while dominator should have been C instead because of the massive end drain some of the powers have. Great video nevertheless.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci

      @@psychocop2481 You made some good points, and you are right I did not take endurance into consideration. I will have to do that next time thanks.

    • @christianna4404
      @christianna4404 Před 5 měsíci +2

      This is for solo. Stalker is absolutely S tier solo.

  • @khandragon7950
    @khandragon7950 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You should probably rename the title to solo class LEVELING, as that is all you seem to be leaning on for your list.. Many of your choices for low tier classes are completely WRONG if you have levels in them.. For Example : Controllers in D tier?? this class has 2 of the most nasty monstrous Solo-able builds avail in the game.. Illusion/Rad and Fire/Kin.. With Illusion your pets are mostly invulnerable and a very nice group, and you can get almost permanent summons on some.. With the Fire this is a build that has been monstrous since the beginning when the game was live, the Fire/Kin Tank is one of the best farmers there has been, as well as great for nearly anything else too.. Yes, you are correct in that to start out low level, or for a new player to the game, they would not be the best choices as they do take a bit of work and patience to get to this nasty level, but if you are willing to do the work they are nearly overpowered at high levels and even more so when tweeked with the right augments... ;) Your choice of Title is very misleading and completely wrong for this video.. I mean come on, Peacebringers and Warshades in D-tier?? LMAO again takes a little work to level them up some to where they can hold their own, though not as much as the controller, and once you get them there they are both very nasty and omni-use classes, meaning that they can solo or fit into any mix of players well (just watch out for Quantum Enemies), not to mention that they gain perks for each member of their team.. ;) ..however this leads away from Solo, so i'll let that one slide.. ...Not even sure i can agree with a lot of the choices you make with this being a best for leveling video, but i'm an old vet from the game since its inception so am very familiar with the gameplay and quirks of playing it.. you seem to be heavily dependent on the 'in your face' style of melee leveling, and completely pass over the 'Run and Gun' style.. Blasters and Corruptors are very nice to level fast if you are not dead set in planting your feet and just pounding on enemies head to head.. Use a bit of strategy and intelligence and they can fly thru levels.. Hell, back in the day my first 3 characters to 50 were 2 Blasters and a Mastermind.. Tank and even Brute also need that handful of levels to make them viable Solo classes that have a good survival stat.. Yes they can take a beating, but to sustain that beating until their lower DPS can deal with the enemies takes a bit of leveling to reach.. and they need those pool powers to heal themselves, or else you are stopping to rest nearly every time you end a fight.. It also will depend on the Server you play as well, since they are all running their own version of the last source code NCSoft made and things are most likely different from one to another.. Personally I have been playing Homecoming since they started, and with them being the only Official NCSoft Licensed server now, even more reason to play there.. They have done so much work with power sets and classes and the game overall that it is insane.. :)

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      I agree the title of the video needs to be better. I am going to change it so it is stated for new and returning players. As for me, my main on the live servers was an elec/elec blaster, Which was started back in beta. I love to run and gun with them until you get both of the big endurance drain abilities. Thank you for pointing out the title issue so that I can correct it.

    • @khandragon7950
      @khandragon7950 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ControlledChaosGaming No Worries, i had come because of the Title, as i like to see how people tier the classes and what builds they rate.. I still have several notebooks full of builds that i have used and played around with since the start and am always looking for an idea or vision that i might not have thought of.. Imagine my surprise when Ul;timate Class Tiers was just for newBs hehehehe Frankly, other than the initial learning curve and Pet Macro hunt, Mastermind has always been one of the easiest classes to breeze along the game with (depending on the build).. being able to just sit back and let army do the dirty work while you keep yourself safe is a great survival tool..

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@khandragon7950 Yes Masterminds are the easiest to play. Due to your first comment, I now want to do a tier list of the most powerful class to the least. I also like coming up with new build ideas. You should try the other servers; some have new Archetypes just for the server.

  • @ahmki52298
    @ahmki52298 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Hero or villain though

  • @eternalskeptic
    @eternalskeptic Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good Blaster at your side, kid.
    🤔

  • @MarkLittle-rq2bq
    @MarkLittle-rq2bq Před 5 měsíci +9

    You missed Sentinels, which are 'S Tier' (of course). Strong defenses, ranged damage with an inherent that wrecks your target's DR. Sentinels are THE archetype for fans of 'Iron Man' or any relatively tough hero who relies on range to get the job done. They start out with Blaster primaries with defense comparable to Scrappers, an all-around excellent choice.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +3

      I did not add Sentinels because they are not on every private server. I only added the ones that are available on every server. Otherwise, I would have added Guardians, Primelists, Protectors, and so on

    • @BossTripp1
      @BossTripp1 Před 5 měsíci +3

      When someone says corruptors are half dominators... it kind of takes away all credibility to me

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@BossTripp1 That was a mistake I meant to say, Defender. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

    • @ericnetterstrom8050
      @ericnetterstrom8050 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ControlledChaosGaming What would you rate Sentinels as? For me, I'd rate it as equal to Dominators. Weak but steady DPS, and scrapper level of durability, with a solid debuff.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci

      @@ericnetterstrom8050 I agree with you because they are blasters with a bit more hit points.

  • @CYI3ERPUNK
    @CYI3ERPUNK Před 5 měsíci +1

    here's the legit tierlist :
    XXX - ThunderSpy
    SSS - Scraps
    SS - Controllers , Dominators , Brutes , Stalkers , MMs , Warshades , Nightwidows
    S - Defenders , Blasters , Spiders , Peacebringers , Tanks , Corruptors , Sentinels

  • @OGSomeOne
    @OGSomeOne Před 4 měsíci +2

    IMO you value brutes too high. They are less defensive than tanks but have to use the same tool kits as tanks. They don't run into the middle of a bunch of mobs and go splat. Dead mobs. They have to fight them one at a time with one aoe. There are 2 or 3 cone attacks but due to the range effective, they are useless and usually only hit one mob. I play a fire/ice tanker and it can handle fire farms as both a tank and a hitter. Large radius pbaoe in the frozen aura skill, a small ice puddle to make the mobs flop around, enhancing your ability to tank since they can not hit you. Burn and blazing aura to cook them while they flop around. Since we are talking CoH homecoming, you left out an important and unique class. Sentinel. It's a blaster with tank/scrapper secondaries, making it very tanky. Scrappers and stalkers are wet noodles. You have to really put some time into them before they get to a place where they can go in and fight 4 to 8 guys at a time and survive. IMO, you undervalue the pb and ws a lot too. It's not hard, in the beginning, to make either a strong hero. The main thing is to keep your first respec until you get tank form. As a pb, you can actually be a tank without white dwarf but it's a lot more expensive. WS are better dps because their skills don't throw stuff around with knock back. End game, you will probably spec out of the tank and squid forms and go human on both arch types. You don't have to worry about being pulled out of your form and being completely defenseless.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I just wanted to let you know that you forgot about two things stated in the video. First, they were my thoughts on the ranking, and second, this is for new players. Also, I am not the only player who feels Brutes are more powerful than a tank. But everyone has the right to their own opinion. If you like the power of the Tank you have built. Then that is all that matters in the end as it is making the game fun for you.

    • @OGSomeOne
      @OGSomeOne Před 4 měsíci +1

      @ControlledChaosGaming that may be but when the crap hits the fan, I'll take my always on zero cost taunt and 20% better defense. Holding the line is where the tank of the group belongs. Not off killing onesie twosies

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 4 měsíci

      @@OGSomeOne True but that is for grouping and not soloing. If I were to want to tank in a group I agree the tank is the better choice. But this video is about soloing.

    • @OGSomeOne
      @OGSomeOne Před 4 měsíci

      @ControlledChaosGaming I solo on the tanks all the time. They are the only arch type that can solo +4 content, unless you are counting, blow my cool down load, run hide, rinse repeat.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 4 měsíci +1

      The reason I did not put Sentinels on the list is they are not on all of the CoH servers. I only put the archetypes that are on all the servers. As for pb and was I did not put them higher on the list because there is more to learn with them to be good at them. I wanted it to be new and player-friendly, so they can slowly get used to gameplay mechanics over time.

  • @Mungo031
    @Mungo031 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sentinels??

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Sentinels are not on the list as they are not on every private server.

    • @weaksause6878
      @weaksause6878 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ControlledChaosGaming you should have added sentinals and guardians and any other AT im not aware of from different servers.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@weaksause6878 I did not on this one as I wanted it to be about the Archetypes that are on all the servers. I will do another one that is all about server specific Archetypes.

  • @tristatetrifecta
    @tristatetrifecta Před 28 dny +1

    if you want to rip through everything - perma light form peace bringer. just watch that crash. putting a peacebringer in d tier... lol. Tell you you dont play khelds without telling me you dont play kelds.

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 28 dny +1

      Look at the title this list is for new players just getting used to the game. the Kelds like the Arachnos archetypes have more complex mechanics to play them. That is why I put them where I did.

  • @typicaltilly2535
    @typicaltilly2535 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This is not great advice...

    • @ControlledChaosGaming
      @ControlledChaosGaming  Před 5 měsíci +3

      It would be helpful to me and others if you explained why?

    • @typicaltilly2535
      @typicaltilly2535 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@ControlledChaosGaming you have your opinion and that is fine.

    • @oopomopoo
      @oopomopoo Před 5 měsíci

      Lol. "I disagree with 10 minutes of what you said"
      "what did you have an issue with?"
      "🥸"

    • @Tanchicomarkas
      @Tanchicomarkas Před 2 měsíci

      That is not an explanation 😊​@@typicaltilly2535