Why Aren't Games Fun Anymore?
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Why aren't games fun anymore? It's a question that's plagued the modern gamer since, well, the beginning of time. Watch this video to find out the answer to that age old question.
Chapters
00:00 - 00:36: Intro
00:36 - 15:03: Triple AAA Gaming
15:03 - 20:08: Battle Royales
20:08 - 24:28: In Defense of Microtransactions
24:28 - 29:20: Remakes
29:20 - 34:14: The Indie Scene - Hry
The sequel to this video: What The Internet Did to Gaming.
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You can make me say some pretty dumb stuff, just saying.
They're not called video games anymore they're called cash Grabs
Did you hear that sony playstation got hacked again
You still play council? ewww
@foxesnroses9148 yes alot of us still do I play xbox , ps5 , swicth , pc and quest 2
How about video game titles that were either forgotten and/or had great potential, but never got the chance to shine for whatever reason. Or titles that deserves a second chance, or simply a proper send-off.
An example from me would be the Arc the Lad franchise. Jak & Daxter, ICO and Grandia are honorable mentions.
Points to consider would be technology, economical aspects, but also development team. For example; SquareSoft becoming Square-Enix, and the subsequent effect this had on their titles.
One of my personal worries is FFX-3: YES, I want it too. HOWEVER, can we expect the same quality that the people behind SSoft made?
Just some points I made on the fly... Ask if you want more details
@Ingisen your right and it would be way better than Sony and the re re re releases I would much rather see them try and bring back some games like golden ax in today's tech it would be amazing but no one is going to make a couch co op let alone a co op game at all ..and they can't make seasons or a battle pass..but yes that would be great ..
1. No, I do NOT want to make yet another account.
2. No, I do NOT want to be online.
3. No, I do NOT enjoy paying for additional content and lootboxes
4. No, I do NOT enjoy ads.
5. No, I do NOT care about marketing buzzwords, I just want a fleshed out story with a quiet protagonist and a villain with understandable but ultimately mistaken morals.
very well said mi fren
cozy especially love #5
really would be nice if more story rich games could happen
instead replacing Mass Effect or Metal Gear is more enjoyable
is sad
Kingdom come deliverance
Hey bro, stop reading my mind please.
I personally don't have the time anymore to dedicate 50+ hours to gaming. The indie scene is what allows me to play unique games without too much time commitment
Kinda the problem I have with these massive open world games. Seems like everyones doing it now too, I'd rather have a neat and concise 20-30 hour banger than a mid 60-100 hour slog, personally
@@Shmandalf I agree with certain types of games. Like Ghost Recon having an open world game SOUNDED awesome - the result? Not so much (although Wildlands and Breakpoint are pretty awesome now). But Future Soldier with it's linear game style was a near masterpiece.
Depends on if you have the mindset to finish the game asap, and if devs can keep it fresh throughout the whole game. So case by case I would say?
I had been waiting for Tears of the Kingdom since playing BOTW, hungry for any bit of news.
I had also been following the development of Sea of Stars after I played through The Messenger in January of 2022.
My kids and I were all hyped the morning before school where we launched TOTK and played for an hour before I had to take them to school.
Afterwards, I remembered that Sea of Stars was still slated to be released. I tried playing the demo but I just found myself wanting to know the starting chapter because it looked like a story I wanted to get lost in.
I ended up pre-ordering Sea of Stars and I've put probably 10-12 hours into it so far.
I have hardly touched TOTK since. I bought the soundtrack for Sea of Stars on Steam, even though I bought the actual game from Nintendo's eShop.
Sea of Stars has made me incredibly happy in a way that TOTK still fails to.
I just don't have time to sink into TOTK like I did with BOTW.
I was living the immediate aftereffects of and the start of my recovery from a very nasty divorce in my late 30's that involved my three young-ish boys.
Now that I've stabilized my life again and gotten therapy and all that, I just don't have time to or interest to sit and RE-explore Hyrule in TOTK. It just feels like another Master Mode DLC and while I do enjoy some of the new mechanics, I miss having some of the mechanics I had before.
Anyway. Sea of Stars makes me feel like a teenager, Tears of the Kingdom is only motivating me by promising a better story that I should complete the main quest to experience.
Bravo to the indie scene, I know this video was released before Sea of Stars, but boy is its success an indication that people are still willing and deeply desirous for company, focused gaming experiences that are rewarding in their own way.
No. It not because you don't have time, most games are wasting your time.
The short answer is: You have too many games and you are old.
I've seen stats that suggest Gen Z don't game anywhere near as much as Millennials. My theory is that Millennials are a captive audience who remember the golden age of gaming and cling on to it for dear life while Gen Z grew up in the PS3/PS4 era with broken game launches and insanely predadtory financial practices.
Maybe it also has to do with gen z not being able to afford these ridiculously priced games anymore. I live in Canada where games are a little over $90.
Interesting
Big companies found out how much was in it, bought out the dev teams, and hired yes men. That’s why.
Can't disagree with ya there.
pretty much this. its no longer an industry of "gamers", its been taken over by a bunch of fat rich "shareholders" trying to squeeze microtransactions out of everybody.
Sounds like modern day (American) corporatism.
And it's certainly not limited to just video games.
Well, in America. The Japanese seem to be ok.
@@natesamadhi33and Tech Bros
This whole "over 1000 planets" thing really rubs me the wrong way, because who the hell is gonna sit there and try to fly to every planet? I would be satisfied if the game just took place in one solar system that is crafted to near perfect
That game turned out exactly like I thought it would.
@@thatguybis1997 I'm sick of these game devs treating us like we're stupid , just tell them there's a shit ton of this and that and watch'em get excited... trading quality over quantity
@wolfstorm5394 Because people ARE dumb. Number goes up, brain cell activates. Looters are literally grinding bad gameplay for marginally better numbers. People ask why WoW is bad now. I wonder if it is because people only want to grind raids so leveling is a complete afterthought.
It's the adage of quality over quantity
Well you can play the game and you don"t have to fly to the 1000 planets, but they are there if you want them .. they are for the players who love to land on planets and explore them.
Smaller, more polished experiences > 120 hour open worlds with a lifeless empty world
During work, I can't stop thinking about the game I'm currently playing. Can't wait to try different builds and ideas.
Got home, took a quick bath, sat on my comfy sofa, booth up my console.
Less than 10 mins in the game, I'm already snoring. 🤦
Just like me, you got a bit old. That's all, brother
Bro!! thats most of us older millennial, with age comes responsibilities and real life choices, being young and free are the days of hours of game play snacks and drinks and tons and tons of energy! Damn Im feeling that less and less these days.
I feel what you feel more and more every time I read your comment!
And its hilarious 😆 😂 love it bro!
I always dreamt of having a gaming pc. Now that i have it, i also have responsibilities, I just can't play games "stresslessly" the way i used to play before. It's sad.
You can play on Sundays.
I always wanted a gaming PC so finally I got one. But there is nothing to play, everything SUCKS.
I'm stuck playing retro games and emulators.... Which I could do with any potato PC.
The industry is in a sorry state.
Wait till you get a kid lol, You turn into a filthy casual in an instant.
@@abnnizzyJust play Baldurs Gate 3 :)
for me my gaming mood really depends on my buddies .If they have time i am happy ,if they dont i am sad.
have the same feeling for movies also, i would prefer old movies in early 2000s rather than new ones.
@@legendsofcelestite.officia5398- This, together with social media culture and “WOKE”ness… most of actors today are way to invested in their overall persona, like most people in general wether actors or none actors, and this give movies a bitter taste of way too much narcissism… add on that the overwhelming pop-hop-ideologies [in contrast to core values] pushed by directors and producers, and you get a production of a downgrade-semi-realistic selfishness and shallowness.
This began more prominently somewhere around 2006 and became dominant around 2012.
Movies are a mass product, with all the woke and trans ppl in hollywood its no wonder with the downfall of movies recently, no soul, bad ideas, lame movie scripts and plots and also the try to
satisfy all genders and racial groups, so that every serie or movies has at least a gay couple, one trans person, one non-binary person, a black guy, an asian guy, etc. You see that hollywood is forcing us to digest this crap of diversity with all movies they release, at this point its even sad that we continue with this BS and trust me, i am absolutely anti racism, i love foreign ppl and love black and asians as well, its just i wouldnt mind if they decided to say: Rush hour 4 for example is still
going to be Jackie chan and Chris tucker, and me as a white person I would say: ok fine i can leave with that, i dont care, but too many ppl
care about nonsense that
doesnt actually affect them so this why we have woke ppl
destroying gaming and movie culture
pathetic
Same feeling 😞
Which is why they cant create anything NEW and they just rape and redo old ips. We are creatively bankrupt because we are only focusing on race, gender and politcal faction. Bring me back to the 90s already. 🤷♂️
It's boring noe because there are a lot more games being released every year instead of having fewer games a year but of higher quality. Most of the games now are copy paste of each other
They're still fun, it's just the weight of the world crushed your soul
Playing retro games I never had before (and no nostalgia) is still more fun than whatever the latest and greatest games are. There are so many great classics for only a few dollars, and not a micro transaction in sight. The goal was just to make an enjoyable good game, not to discover the most efficient way of extracting money from their consumers.
I know right. The number of retro games I've played, loved, and enjoyed, and which I had no nostalgia for, is staggering. And it always makes me laugh when people say "Well this game doesn't actually hold up, it's just your nostalgia."
Uh huh... yeah. What nostalgia?
(I suppose they are right sometimes. I don't think Goldeneye holds up well nowadays, but Perfect Dark definitely holds up in my opinion.)
Due to the developers caring about the customers giving them the best experiences.
I stopped playing many gmes years go but the major thing is the storyline is poor nowadys compaired to past games.
Todays games relay too much on eye candy.
Yes, I finally came to play Earthbound - A game I never played before and I was always put off by its graphics style. But I absolutely LOVED it! I also played most classic RPGs way after their time because I never got a super nintendo.
Or you could play a little of everything and skip the crap that exists all over - the indie scene has gold, but it's flooded with cheap crap too.
Just because the marketing machine has all the sites and influencers not-shutting-up about something (because it works enough so far*) doesn't mean you need to care about it.
* Starfield was clearly a test to see what happens when you start to ignore the typical sites and just do the influencer thing - and given how that all worked, expect it go farther.
I'm a bit old now, overcriticizing each game for one thing or another but this saved me money overall. The thing that annoys me most is that people can't hold off their hands from the "pre-order" button until the game is released and check some reviews for it. If this can be achieved, gaming companies will be forced to be extra careful what are they releasing.
Well said.
You make a lot of since. Yet unfortunately many companies view the fact that they can patch games directly on your console makes them more bold. Look at the piece of crap that cyber punk started out as.
They do whatever they can get away with. Once a developer has reached a certain size, it's pretty much downhill. Developers & testers HAVE NO SAY, shareholders & marketing people dictate the numbers & thereby turn the dreamjobs of 15yrs ago (code for blizzard, test for bethesda, create assets for ea) into a working nightmare. Just listen to the devs & you get an idea whats going on behind the curtains. No dev or tester wants to release unfinished games. It's not their fault. They crunch for months only to get the blame for releasing at alpha. Add multiple platforms: How do you expect a top notch game to run flawless on a platform for 300 - 400 bucks where for the same price you cannot even afford the minimum(!) required gpu on PC? Preordering games is nonsensical. Once the money is made, where is the incentive to polish the product? They let the community betatest while they develop the first addon or some mind - numbing microstore. It's not about making a good game anymore, it's about making tons of money on a regular basis.
Enter game pass
@@LuciusSeptamus game pass sucks. most games u get are either not complete (no dlc) or trash. the few good games u get cost you less if you buy them all than paying gamepass for a year.
Imagine randomly diving your sub around the globe (yes, entire globe) sifting through the ocean and randomly stumbling upon Emerald Weapon, who is not tied to the main story and you can beat the game without ever knowing he's in it. No trailer, no streamer / twitch blogs about it. No walkthrough to prepare you for the fight.
I LOVED this about ff7 and being able to find things yourself. To much info is available now for games, taking alot of fun out of them
By the time I hit the power button, a disturbing noise comes up “Are you playing video games again?”
The problems for me are basically two:
1) I don't have much time to spend and a lot of games nowadays spend 30 minutes just telling history in cutscenes (by the end of the first cutscene I already have to stop and go on with my life).
2) I don't like to play online. I want to play alone and A LOT of games (most of them) are made for online players.
Same dude, and with download/ install times (even with physical), that short window of time closes a lot faster without even getting to play. You buy a game on a Friday, install it Friday night when you get home from work, install the disc by Saturday morning, get past all the licensing agreements, find out you need to install a massive update, install the update, and by Saturday afternoon you can play the game. Get through the opening cutscenes and tutorials by Sunday. And then you might get a few hours to get hooked before A Monday- if you have NO other responsibilities for that entire weekend. Only Nintendo still lets you play games right from the get-go anymore.
@@12ealDealOfficial😂😂 homie what? Are you still on dial-up? In what world does downloading a game take from Friday until Saturday?
@@elitepauper7400 COD MW2 was like a TB son
Bro, you should play only action gdr and indies like me. Do you want a list?
@@12ealDealOfficiala tb😂😂😂😂 150gb at maximum.
Microtransactions are more of a problem than you're giving them credit for, but, as gamers, we're part of the problem that microtransactions exist. Microtransactions didn't come up out of nowhere. The reason that RMT is so common in every MMO is because players are willing, or likely, even more willing, to pay for an advantage in a game that doesn't have microtransactions. Companies aren't ignorant about this and in the early UO days, there are stories about GMs selling towers, etc.
The reason microtransactions become problematic is more and more games design themselves around microtransactions. That's part of why the game "isn't fun anymore" because without spending $$$, it's intentionally grindy or based around FOMO.
Microtransactions have also been around for a long time. The first microtransaction isn't the famous Oblivion horse armor, it's the arcade version of Double Dragon 3 - The Rosetta Stone. In DD3, you can go into a store and for additional coins, you can get extra abilities, power ups, etc. and this game was released in 1990.
Though, I'd honestly argue that microtransactions go back further than that, to when Moon Patrol was released back in 1982. Moon Patrol was the first game to allow you to pay an additional quarter to continue. You were, effectively, buying extra lives to push the game further.
Obviously, the answer is that there has to be a balance, but I'm seeing the pull of microtransactions impacting games more and more, but until we, the gamers, stop purchasing, they're here to stay. (We won't stop.)
Additionally, that's part of why Elden Ring was so well received. You bought it, you owned it, and there were no microtransactions. The developers simply sought to invest in making a good game, not a game with a good store.
Elden Ring has sold 20m copies and From Software's revenue from 4/2022 to 3/2023 was $152m. Oddly, this does not include the initial sales of Elden Ring and I couldn't find a source for 4/2021 to 3/2022 revenue. If we 2.5x it, the sales are worth a total of $380m and we assume that the publisher took a greedy 40% cut, that puts the game's total revenue at $634m.
Compare that to Diablo Immortal, which made over $525m in its first year. While this is less than my extremely generous estimate for Elden Ring, it does show how a microtransaction game that was completely reviled and review bombed ended up putting up numbers like Elden Ring.
Unfortunately, the realities of business are that it isn't about how to make the best product, but how to generate the most revenue per a given amount of effort. Making a game based around a store to sell you stuff generally makes more money with less effort.
The world changed and video games are much more expensive now to make than 15 years ago. Deal with it. Microtransactionless games are not coming back.
Very few games can make enough money without microtransactions. Don't use those ideal cases as an expectation. The competition is insane, thousands of games released weekly.
People missed the biggest point of gaming its not "I don't have time" its games are made cheap as possible for most amount of money nothing to do with us
Cause we're all older.
Its pretty simple, 1 word, immersion, all new games lack it, it is the magic sauce that makes a game good, and none of the games out there have it anymore, you dont feel like your in the world of that game, you not sucked in, lost in it. This is a major factor which has been forgotten by the gaming community as a whole.
The availability of easily accessible information is what ruined gaming for me. I really hate to admit it. I found so much joy in trying to uncover secrets in games, spending time figuring out how to optimize my gameplay or in game equipment, and theorizing about what happens after getting certain achievements.
Now I just end up looking everything up online and try to rush through games to get to the end or the most optimized state as quickly as possible to catch up with others.
Check out the latest video please! I dive deeper into those topics there.
I get you. I wanted to enjoy the new MW3 Zombies but I've been plagues with 'Meta this' and 'Easter egg that' wherever I look. Ruins it. It used to be 'all about the game.
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have some self control loser, don't look up stuff.
relatable, instead of finding out everything on my own while playing the create mod in minecraft i just search everything up ☹️
@atari460 Along the same lines... streamers and CZcamsrs given access to games early also killed a lot of what I loved about games. It was SO different when Dark Souls 1 came out and everyone got to enjoy it SIMULTANEOUSLY. I was in an open "global chat" where people were playing the game. And I remember how awesome it was to read people just typing "OMG I just rung the first bell!" or "I heard the bell ring in my game... what does it mean?!" Now when a game releases it doesn't feel special anymore, I am technically 'late' to the party.
I hate that games now a days need dlc to be "fun" while devs put little effort in the base game and social media isnt helping ether because it spoils every secret in the game instead of people finding stuff for themselves
This was another topic I had in mind for a future video.
Its kinda crazy how hard you have to try to avoid spoilers. Most notorious, Undertale spoilers. Be watching a video on something completely unrelated, look in the comments and bam spoilers everywhere, when it was the new hot thing. It actually ruined the game for me :(
@@thatguybis1997please do it!
I kind of felt like that with Smash Bros. Ultimate. Lack of new stages and characters at first. The game felt more like a Smash Bros 4 expansion to me, even with the new physics and single player modes. The game felt completely new once all the DLC characters came out.
I hate when people scream "cosmetics only" when some popular game have microtransactions.
Cosmetics yes they don't give the player any gameplay advantage but it's still part of gameplay
SimCity 4 is one rare game that gets better each year thanks to its modding community. It's better today than 22 years ago, and still playable and even more demanding. Shout out to the community. Thanks.
Yes, it's such a fun replayable game. No DLC's that costs a fortune to keep it fresh and enjoyable.
I don't have time to spend 50+ hours only to be half way in in a game...
I still play everything that doesn't require that. I prefer a good story to an open world
At some point games have started to feel like Pixar movies. Where some game companies are focusing on the wrong things with pixar it's the "realistic" animation style and games it's mostly greed.
Oops sorry.
"Greed". We e got a real deep thinker here.
@@spec24 oh if that's deep thinking man I wonder what you think about the people who go "Pixar is a facsimile of the society that we live in that focuses on over monetization on the arts that we endeavor to create so that way they can generate as much capital in a quarter so they may appease the investors. Instead of doing what gave them the ability to gain the investors in the first place" those people must be Galaxy brain also you put a double E in you did a "we e" happens to the best of us.
In my opinion there are too many strict deadlines to meet and unpolished games are being rushed in to the market. A great game with all of the intricate details and surprises that we love so much takes a lot of time to develop.
Greed. Because the easy mode is now gamer mode I don't know why they think that everyone has time to sit down and become a professional gamer we don't some people are doctors some people work at a daycare some people work on the oil rigs some people work at car factories like can the easy mode be not a sin it's okay right? And every game doesn't need a game pack expansion and the tasks I feel are becoming more and more unreasonable. When people sit down and play a game we know it's a cartoon however realistic or blatant we know it's animation we want to be struck visually but we don't want to have to play like we're committing some sort of dogmatic metaverse surgery.
rant done.
I understand some missions being hard okay maybe two or three but my god when it becomes every game you have feels like a chore to play you stop buying games.
Short answer:
Companies had a shift in mentality: They went from wanting to make entertaining games that would make a profit from that project alone.
To games that would rake in billions.
If a company can get that one game, that one World of Warcraft. Then they're set.
Technology killed video game industries. They went from fun factor to ultra realistic factor wich make most videogames boring and act like robots, poor engine movement. Like fifa soccer 2023, players act like robots. I stopped playing new soccer games. And bought me an xbox 360 console along with a ps5 with o ly ps4 games
I still play WoW.
Been playing since 2005…
WoW is forever it seems lol
That doesn't make any sense, WoW was actually good day one and stayed good for a long time. I still remember playing the original release at a school friend's house that had it.
the AAA games did, yes
but there are still plenty of indie and AA titles that have the previous mentality
@@QuattroSG it does though. Because WoW was popular and maintained for a long time, it was able to bring blizzard a LOT of money. So if companies can just get one game that will live "forever", they are set monetary for as long as that game is good and even longer
Overconsumption. Give your self breaks like weeks to months to finish a game maybe. Too much dopamine saturation is like a addict looking for their next high and that’s what gaming is turning to.
A combination of several factors :
1- too many unfinished games
2- too many micro transactions instead of having those features in the base game
3- less care put into smaller details, and even when their is, it’s mostly spoiled online . Plus games also are generally missing the kind of “crafty” elements that they used to have.
4- the gaming community has become more toxic , casuals and competitive players argue against eachother and make dumb generalizations about eachother
5- covid could be a factor, playing games all throughout covid made people want to go outside more once the quarantine ended .
6- older people who played games before now have responsibilities, and can’t really enjoy even good games anymore cause they don’t have the time , younger people have low attention spans so even when something good comes out they are happy for at most a few days and then instantly start looking for something new.
Once we did gaming to escape real life stress, economy, what not.
Now we're bombarded with the things we were trying to escape in the first place.
U got it 💯
Also the ERA THAT WAS MOST FUN AND MEMORABLE TO ME WAS THE 7TH GEN GAMING HONESTLY I WOULD GO FAR AS TO SAY THAT WAS THE GOLDEN AGE OF VIDEO GAMES BASED ON THE GAMES THAT RELEASED DURING THAT PERIODCAL ERA COMPARED TO WHAT WE GOT NOW!!
Plus it became a "fashion" thing, especially with the pre-order. People will buy it, brag about it on social media, and will never play it. There is no need for a game to be good or bug-less. So, we get the low quality stuff, because it sells out of fashion. The same goes with the movies. Everybody and their uncle will spit on new Star Wars movie, and each one makes more money than the previous.
And micro-transactions are not ok in ANY regard, it makes games effectively the gambling slots, creating addiction, and the games implementing it should AT LEAST be taxed as gambling.
Big true.
But don't worry, you always got your old video games on disk right and your old game system/systems right?
When i was young i liked large open world games but as i grew older i tend toward linear games as most of us dont have much time to play games anymore .
Linear games annoying me
@@user-di1rj2be7w Then don't play them :) For each their own
This is where I'm at too. Open world games have become so large that they're almost impossible to complete if you have an actual life. And quantity doesn't always equal quality. By far the worst offender for me has been the Assassin's Creed franchise.
same here, that openworld fatigue regards being a big openworld fan fueled by wanderlust, i end up seeking games that rewards players choice and offers players' freedom, game that give the sense that the player exist. i just bought a used RX 6700XT and im playing isometric titles or CRPG's.
Same, can't stand giant open world games or even cutscene-heavy games anymore. Just don't have the time, just don't care anymore as I have already played several of those before.
Games today are poorly design. Not only that but it's all about fantasy makes no sense at all. So trashy.
What made the best games were the Iconic hero’s for me, Like Shepard, Snake, Kratos, Drake & Joel & Ellie. Hire better voice actors & I’ll play a trilogy.
I think the trouble is most of these Games Directors think that they are film directors. Gameplay has vanished and instead replaced with movie cuts and screenplays.
No thats just kojima.
Yea that is another problem. They want games to be interactive movies rather than games at this point. Snorefest
That was the experience of RDR2. It became so boring I just watched the cut scenes instead of playing the actual game.
While I agree with most of what was said here, particularly with regards to the sheer size of the game world, but sometimes I wonder how much of this just comes down to age and digital downloads. When I was younger and didn't own as many games, I had infinite patience to explore every nook and cranny, talk to every NPC multiple times at different points in the game just to look for hidden bits of dialog, and replay the game multiple times to experience every possible scene. Now it's incredibly rare that I even finish a game, and a lot of that is just because shortly after I start one my mind starts drifting to one of the other ~200 games I have in my backlog until I eventually decide that my time is better spent playing something else. Even in the heyday of Gamestop I never lost focus like this, and I think the combination of just being older combined with an overwhelming number of options leads to me enjoying individual games a lot less.
Yea, I used to love big, deep rpgs with tons of content and a heavy story. These days I just can't stand dialogue and cutscene-heavy games, I just don't care about the story anymore. I want something quick fun that also challanges and stimulates my brain. I mostly play simulators like racing games these days and have also returned to my favorite RTS games I used to play as a kid like Starcraft 2 and Battle for Middle Earth 2 which allows you to simply join a game and immediately have fun but still offers tons of depth mechanically.
I think the quality of video games have been in a decline since the 2010s, but there is no doubt that becoming older also changes your priorities and preferences when it comes to choice of games. Unfortunately content rich, story heavy games have been the milking cow for AAA games since Skyrim and there is a severe lack of risk taking as well as creativity from AAA devs making the industry feel really bad and stale for those that don't like that type of games. I feel like there was alot more diversity in games and genres back in the day, but maybe thats just a feeling.
@@Skumtomten1 I still like narrative-driven games, I just no longer have the desire to talk to nameless npcs or read any of the stupid codex entries and stuff like that. You can make a game world feel like its existence predates the current story without leaving boring notes everywhere explaining about the war 2000 years ago that has nothing to do with the plot of game. I have also taken a more realistic approach to exploring cities. I no longer wander into every single building just to see if there's a quest or treasure or anything. Now I limit myself to exploring only the places that I would actually go to in real life: inns, taverns, shops, any place I've been tasked to go to as part of a quest. If there's some sort of spectacle outside of a building that would genuinely draw me in if I were there in real life, then that's fair game, too. But no random houses, and I don't go and visit the mayor or the palace or some important looking estate unless I have actual business there. It really takes the dread out of discovering a new city, because now my game doesn't come to a grinding halt the way it used to when I felt the need to explore every nook and cranny before moving on. And if the game design is good, you'll be directed to any place that matters without just barging in for no reason the moment you arrive in town and the quests play out much more naturally.
@@_Qwi_ games are made to milk the living shit out of you. with terrible mechanics, gameplay, physics, and all based on sharkcards/goldbars or other in game purchases that generates BILLIONS for game developpers. and what is even worse? is that 90 percent of these games , are worthless without in game purchases. so if u want to stay ''invested'' (LOL) you need to invest in ingame purchases.
this is completely trash. and if u are on pc, you gotta pay 700 bucks for a gpu that cant even play 1080p 60 fps unless you have dlss.......... wow bro. gaming is just not worth it anymore. in any way , shape or form. its just over. glad i got to see commodore, sega, nintendo, playstation 1,2,3 , xbox and 360. those were the haydays of gaming. anything after that is just complete garbage.
remember bf? and when bf and cod had their own identity? and were battling eachother in terms of which was the better shooter? even that was ruined because COD started copying BF and BF started copying COD.
bro, gaming is dead. its just not worth it.
@@deathrager2404everything is designed to drained your money, that's a byproduct of innovation, innovation only happens when those people are motivated and sadly your joy isnt a motivator, but your money is, just when you were a kid your parents paid for stuff or you didnt understand the worth of money yet.
Games are actually way better now, I'll concede that maybe cod and bf are stale but that's a you problem, find a different game because those games found what people enjoy and stuck with it, they arwnt gonna radically change the games just for you and the people who enjoy those games prob enjoy what the devs have settled on but to say games arent way better now adays is ludicrous, just now instead if making a character 5 polygons, they have to render a whole dam person that's nearly life like into a game so it costs more, and actually gaming is one of coolest ways to monetize stuff, because now it's free to play any game and the gaming companies make their money mostly off cosmetic stuff so as long as you dont want to look cool in these games, you typically dont gotta spend anything and even the box price being 70$ is insane as everything else has double in price due to inflation but cosmetic sales have managed to keep games from increasing their prices, like games adjusted for inflation would be roughly 120 to 140$ nowadays and we seem to not realise this for some reason but given I can get hours upon hours to even years in some cases of content for the price of two large pizzas should be seen as an accomplishment yet its seen as greedy and the pizza store selling a 35$ pizza isnt seen as greed 😂
@@maeveliv2517 and this is why i pirate games.
I feel like ff7 is a special case for remakes. I waited 10 years for it to come around when it was first mentioned. It was the best selling rpg in its day with an incredible story. The remake fleshes out the story and characters even more
For most of us that busy these days, "bite-sized" games that are packed with story, content, fun, details, themes, etc. into a 5-20 hour game that respects our time are the go-to games.
90% of the time I spend playing games these days is either replaying FromSoft games or playing indie games on the switch
I’m right there with u. I love almost all “souls like” games, but all these “movie” type sony games or giant 100 snooze fests ( Ubisoft games) just suck now.
I play my switch all the time for the smaller titles that are instant fun, mostly rougelikes or racing. And I just got Lies of P for PS5 and it’s super fun.
This is the way.
Expand your tastes then. Sounds like a you problem
@@thequeen901 “expand my tastes” = stop playing Celeste, Hollow Knight, Cross Code, Chained Echoes, Hades, etc. (all different types of games btw) to instead play some open world Ubisoft sludge. Great burn 🤧 being smug doesn’t make you smart, “Queen” lmao
@@cadearcher2258 I don't play Ubisoft games lmao. Is that REALLY what you consider expanding your tastes? Or a good game? 💀💀😭😭🤣🤣 Man, you need more help than I thought. And nobody said to stop playing games you like dumbass, lol.
At this point, I'm willing to replay certain older games that don't reflect the current state of gaming. Even on emulators.
That is ALL I've been doing lately.
That's what I'm doing until October rolls around, then I'll be back at it with the games again.
that's why emulation has SKYROCKETED in the past 5 years.
people are packing up and retiring from modern games.
they also start pushing agendas and politics in modern games which older games do not have.
another reason to go back to older times.
Something I’d recommend. It’ll make u appreciate ALOT, if you’re like me.
Name 1 good modern day game because I know a few
Being older and having responsibilities, so less time to 'stop and smell the roses' in a game, feeling rushed. The emphasis on subscription services where most games have limited time on there so you are rushing your way through instead of enjoying it. The infodumps some games pile on you instead of just letting you play / tedious tutorials. Endless predatory monetisation. Corner cutting. Knowing how shit the industry is for devs. A minor one at the moment is ads in games, but this will only get worse. The lack of ownership over your games as everything shifts to digital / subscription services. Cramming dozens of hours worth of busywork so a publisher can say it has X hours of content when it's artificial. And so on.
That is a familiar feeling: When entertainment feels like a chore. Same with "I have to finish this anime." That's when you have to learn to STOP. You don't have to keep watching or playing, you don't have to count score and levels or episodes, just stop. It will be a relief.
I've been banging this drum for over a decade now. AAA games are basically slowly traversing over a grey/green/brown landscape in between watching cutscenes. And don't get me started on microtransactions, and (even worse) games being unfinished at launch
That's... kind of like saying games in the 16 bit era were just hopping over shit while music played. It often WAS just that, but then at times it would be made a sublime experience when the talent was there: Donkey Kong Country and so on. The Witcher 3, Red Dead 2, BotW, so many games in the last 10 years are a masterful version of what you describe.
@@user-io6eq9gt6w Masterful crap is still crap tho, is it not?
@@user-io6eq9gt6wBOTW I wouldn't include in the list
It's really just an empty boring game, but since it's Zelda it somehow gets a pass
Wow, folks we are witnessing a fucking prophet right here.
@@user-io6eq9gt6w lol all those games are shit.
When I was 18, I bought a cd player and my first CD. That was the only CD I had for months and I listened to it over and over and over and never got tired of it.
A few years later, I bought one of those 50 CD changer stereos. Every slot had a CD in it ... and I was bored with every single song. I couldn't listen to a song all the way through before being bored with it.
I suspect this phenomenon I experienced with the CDs is related to the phenomenon of being bored with video games. There's just so many to choose from now.
It’s true, we’re spoiled for choice these days. That’s why it’s important to focus on just 1 or 2 games at a time. If your focus is divided, you’re not going to enjoy anything.
I sold my SNES and bought my first CD player 🤣
sorry but this is bs! there are many games but only a few games fit your interest. it is a illusion. The number of games shrink drastically. in 2023 was only one game interesting for me. All others in this year are boring, crap, indie sludge, eyecancer. the thing why games are boring is the fact they are the same. same mechanics, same look, same story. god of war isnt a good game. it is tomb raider with another skin.
@@1Nyour3RAIN When you grow up, you'll understand.
@1Nyour3RAIN No. OP made a great point. It applies to many aspects of life. When you have less, there is a natural longing for more that keeps you coming back. When you have too much... When you get too much dopamine from too many games, the excitement just dies off. It's the same thing as taking drugs. Less of a pleasure effect and more depression each time you do it.
It can also be attributed to having too many things to do, and so simply not wanting to do anything. For example, many people's response is to try taking several (or all of their tasks on at once) instead of taking them one at a time. It simply causes more stress and makes you want to not do anything at all.
k that's all
Maybe after 20 years of playing people finally realizing it’s only a game?
I’m 39 and figured it was because I’d seen it all & my gaming standards are Mass Effect, Metal Gear, God of War, Last of Us, Returnal, Gears of War etc.
When I was a child, my English was almost none-existent but my patience was infinitely better. Everything was fresh and it took me so much longer to get bored, I had no idea what I was doing so it felt more magical. I could play Pokémon and walk around for months without making any progress and I would still be amazed regardless. Also the mind of a child has way more imagination. As an adult, I saw an obstacle that's clearly but immersivity designed to prevent the player from going forward but as a child, I could not help but come up with the craziest thoughts on what's beyond that obstacle. Now, I look at everything from a more critical standpoint which is something I can't avoid.
A child is also less aware of development limitations so doesn't know that something in a game is likely to not exist or where the boundaries of the game are
1. Games are becoming too long
2. Some games are the same as other stuff we've played before countless times
3. Lack of general good story elements make some games not worth playing
4. Wokeness
@@believer431 'Wokeness' is a fashionable thing to complain about and has become an empty buzzword.
I just fired up the original God of War on ps2 and was treated to more gameplay mechanics from a polished experience than any modern game in two hours of play. It blows my mind how high quality games were back then.
I remember when people complained about games not being open world enough, now they complain they don't like it.
Honestly, as an adult I find myself playing the game of buying games and not playing them for years later because I have so many responsibilities. The fact that I can only play games for about 4 hours at a time on the weekends only makes the feeling that gaming isn't for me anymore worse. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the few games I play (mainly single players) but at the end of the day, the reality is always just 1 click away.
I'm old now. Raised 2 kids. I had to fight for my game time. At my age, I can't play nearly as well as I used to but am finding enough to have a lot of fun, even if in brief duration. Example: very easy to pick up a car racing game and do a race or 2, Forza Horizon being my favorite. Funny meme from comedy site Babylon Bee: "Miracle as wife awakes from long coma moments after her husband powers up PS4" Story of my life.
Same here guys I am 40 with a 9yo daughter, but me and her play games together which I love .. but most the games she likes isn't something I really enjoy but I don't care cause I enjoy spending as much time as I can with her , but as far as me I just get a few hours a week to play .. and I don't play alotnof games a year so I try and find 1 or 2 I can sink into for very long periods of time
I was gonna say maybe we're just old??? Lol.
I buy a lot of games I never play....
But point taken that games launching in unplayable state is unacceptable.
My last triple A was Ghost of Tsushima, which launched in a great state I must say.
@@reapersasmr5483 A favorite story: played Wheel of Fortune N64 with my daughter around 5ish. Somehow, she won $1,500!!! and turned to me with big innocent eyes and asked, "daddy, when will they send me my money?"
@weldsj8847 omg , cute story , that's priceless.. yeah memories like that stay with your forever .. and even when things get bad... them and the memories keep you going , now I get emotional sometimes when I look at how big she is and how we are starting to spend less time together but she is growing up on me .
I think it's better to create smaller and better realized worlds than massive anemic ones.
I get that developers want to give us access to larger and larger worlds, but there's something to be said about maintain that longing to explore the distant background of a limited one. We lose that longing when givin access, and we are almost always disappointed in how shallow it turns out to be.
TLDR: Less is more.
Then don't buy open world games?
i blame games like assassin’s creed and skyrim, a lot of new games follow in their footsteps with regard to creating these sprawling open worlds that are actually relatively sparse if you try to look for finer details under a microscope. something like what mario odyssey did should be the goal - smaller worlds that make you want to explore them with how much life and character (for the most part) are packed in
@@meestersecure9060the thing is almost everything is becoming open world.
@@aceman2k320 indeed. The whole entertainment industry went from being a form of art and passion, and became just like any other service industry.
The world of the Wind Waker is pretty small compared to games of today, but as a kid it felt much larger.
If you don't buy a pizza that is partially cooked, why would you buy a game that needs patches from the beginning? I happily pirate these games because these companies are trying to scam me, so I return them the favor.
Because games don't focus on casuals anymore. Casuals are the best gamers, they play because the game is distraction from real life. I recently watched a video about NFS Unbound where a guy said "This weeks best way to make money in the game". So you really have to watch guides every week to know how to make the monst money. And people actually have time to watch that shit all the time. Those people don't even play the game anymore, it's actually work. The whole society is full of spoilt losers.
The key is getting dopamine under control. Do your chores before you game, and then when you go to them, you go with the hunger to escape. It all lights up for you when you stop making gaming into a purpose, and instead into a dream. It all starts to make sense for you to have fun again when you make life a little harder for yourself intentionally. I do this, and I have a blast when I game! Monster Hunger World is incredibly satisfying to me after a 10 hour shift. Get your brain and life in order, and a little hedonistic fervor can go a long way to making you incredibly satisfied. I got a University Degree in IT while I played Monster Hunter. I would actually use some of the locations for a memory palace and study my flashcards using the landmarks from the game. That made it incredibly interesting. I can remember most, if not all of the material from my experience with Monster Hunter, and it helps me with my career too.
Delayed gratification comes with lots of benefits. Problem is a majority of people And way too weak to stick with it. They also have a "sitcom mentality" where they expect meaningful results fast.
I agree with you op, but I think you are preaching to the "instant gratification" group. 9 out of 10 here won't do it, still will pre order games, still look up spoilers than bitch afterwords to generate validation for their behavior.
You gave good advise, but people hardly change, even if it can benefit them. People are stubborn creatures who will bury their heads in the sand when confronted with even reasonable or beneficial change. A majority of people are completely incapable of adapting to change, let alone having any form of self awareness.
My prediction: most people will shirk and phone in their responsibilities just to play and wonder why they don't have true fulfillment in life, will be given the answer, and go back to their unfulfilling patterns because it's familiar and thinking it's the easy way out.
@n3h3msounds like you and others let tikpoop ruin the industry by watching their content and making them money. Certainly not the fault of game developers if you give your business elsewhere. That's on you and those who helped contribute to that
You made your own bed, now lie in it, shut up and go to sleep.
This guy gets it. People are just idiots in phones nowadays
This is based af. Similar to my experience.
I was in online charter schooling throughout high-school. I maintained quality grades and completed course work very quickly leaving me with a lot of unobstructed time to game my life away.
Eventually it just stopped feeling the same. Got fat to boot 😂 Started to have this guilt feeling out of nowhere while playing. Felt like a chore and not escapism.
Got through college in the same situation. Got high honors, gamed as much as I wanted. Felt meh.
Started working out and limiting my game time. Got multiple part time jobs (I have autism and 8 hr of the same tedious boring crap a day makes me want to kms so I break it up into smaller hour commitments with diverse jobs) and slowly that fire and passion started to come back. The challenge in the gym, the challenge of learning multiple jobs, the grind of socializing and getting payed without getting pushed to the absolute breaking point. It did wonders. Without the challenge of real life, the challenges in the game began to mean nothing to me. It all just felt empty. Now that my life is more fulfilling and (Sustainably) challenging, gaming is more fun!
Good advice. Problem is most gamers are lonely losers so they have nothing else to do than get on discord and game
Don’t forget also the fact that you are not a little boy anymore where anything amazes you cause it’s the first time you see it , you can only play so many FPS, adventures , mmo’s , sports, etc ….games before you become immune to the fascination of simply being able to control a virtual character, games are a repetition of each other maybe with different characters and different backgrounds but in essence they are the same joystick and or keyboard controlled scenario you can only do it for so long and for so many times , no matter the different color scheme. It’s easy to blame the industry , which indeed has its issues but in retrospect the gaming industry is much much wider and better than before , the games ARE INDEED BETTER TODAY.
I remember the days I used to be totally amazed and having fun saying this is the best game ever with games like the first Abe’s Odyssey or Mario but then again I was 12 and had never experienced something like this , it was new and fresh and “Next Gen” ask me if I want to play any of those today …he’ll no ! ..it’s like everything else my friend , think about how incredible a telephone ☎️ is , somebody can hear you talk instantly on the other side of the world ?….does this amaze me or do I think about the telephone today like that , no ; almost nobody does , we simply pick it up and make a call. The “magic” doesn’t last forever my friend , that is the way we humans are , maybe that is the reason for progress for right or for wrong.
The proof of what I’m saying is true : grab some kid from some 3rd world country that has never played a computer game and let him play the shittiest game today ….you know what will happen ? ……he will have a blast ! and will be craving for more !
So the real truth is not the the gaming industry is flawed the real truth is you have outgrown it, get out , do some outdoor activities 😉
what about the wokeness in games bro?
I definitely agree that the magic wears off. I personally think that's about half of why I don't play video games anymore. That and being an adult makes you suddenly care a lot more about your success, status, and financial security more and goofing around suddenly doesn't feel fun anymore when it's not done in moderation. But I do also agree with the creator, that the other half of the reason why I don't like games anymore is because they really are poorly made, poorly tested, unoriginal, bloated wallet leaches.
@@MetalDeathHead can you elaborate ?
@@vegamineral207 back in the day you had 100 perfectly working games , today you have 1000 games, 40 percent of those being garbage , that still leaves you with 300 much more complex games than before by far and all in perfect working order ; let’s face it , you know who says the industry is boring ? …..Adults that have played it all and don’t realize it or don’t want to realize they have outgrown the computer game industry . I have never heard an 11 year old complain about the industry , only adults or dudes with way too much time in their hands that do nothing more than that play and finish 2 or 3 titles in a week on regular bases.
and most are filled with woke propaganda@@vegamineral207
for me i'm 53 and it seems like i've done it all before. I've been playing modern games since i got my first PC in 1995.
Because it feels like we've been playing the same game over and over but with a different skin and name.
Another example of procedural generation done right is Deep Rock Galactic. I find it infinitely more replayable than L4D2 because of its progression system and the cave generation, creating unique scenarios every so often.
It was all a ploy to let you guys give me game recommendations muahahaha
Remnant From the Ashes and Remnant 2 are fantastic games that use it as well.
ROCK AND STONE!!
Deep Rock Galactic is all about having fun. Rock and Stone!!!!
Gosh, though, I had so many fun hours with L4D2. Truly. So many friends and just... good times.
Correction: Video games are not fun to YOU. I only get bored with multiplayer games. Story based games are fun to me. Enough said.
Correct it's multi-player game people that hate life. Single player have been great although companies are making less of them because everything needs to be multi-player
Games aren’t fun with to me anymore as well 😅
Nope most games suck now, even the Sony ones. But indie games is where creativity and fun is still a priority most of the time, thank god for that.
It ain’t that deep man
@@Tekkenandgaming I'm good on that.
Games are fun, but we're just getting old and thinking they're not fun anymore.
More comments should be centered around what makes a game fun, rather than waving the question away and saying the answer is "we just don't have time to play them".
To contribute to this, for me most games lack a sense of reaction when you do something cool or progress in the game. The feeling that my moves mean something makes it fun. That's what props up RDR2.
I just got back into video games around 2020. I had a 16 year hiatus. I bought a nintendo switch and I love most of the games I bought. I'm completing them one at a time. I had a blast and it's not dulled at all. I get that you can become burned out on them. So take your time with them and watch to see if you like them.
16yrs wtf
Which games
man went on a hiatus when i was born 💀
@@murderman8578 metro 2033, zelda breath of the wild, Immortal Fenyx Rising , bio shock and Zombie Army trilogy.
The Switch is great, that's why.
I don't think there's games burnout at all....games just haven't been great in a long time. Developers got lazy, and it shows. People will be playing BOTW and TOTK for a LONG time. Decades from now people will be playing these games. The same can't be said of whatever random FPS or battle royale game. They simply aren't as memorable or impactful.
@@krausewitz6786 better handhelds than the switch tbh
80s and 90s kids are lucky! (I’m one of them) we’ve seen a massive evolution in graphics and gameplay! The evolution of gaming.. the huge steps! And now we are at a point where the steps are not massive anymore! So besides some games, nothing is really surprising anymore and most things have been done a thousand times! Remember when we had the nes? The n64? 3D graphics? The first ps1? Going from that to the ps2? All the new possibilities with every next gen? We came to a point where thats not possible anymore (atleast for a while) there are still some things in the future that can bring that, i never experienced that feeling. But we wont see the big leaps anymore.. we were lucky to have that! Lucky to be able to experience all those things for the first time!
Yeah I was one of those kids. I'm old enough to remember when Pong came out. My first game console was the Odyssey. Then the Atari 2600. What people have to remember is that older games seem better only because we were young -- and children are fortunate to see the world as being full of magic, mystery, and wonder. While it is true that I no longer feel the same rush of adrenaline buying a new game for my modern gaming rig as I did when I was gifted a new Atari 2600 cartridge -- but that DOES NOT mean that Atari 2600 games are better. It only means that I was 10 years old when I got an Atari 2600 as a gift -- and that was cutting edge gaming tech back then. Keep in mind that the 10 year-olds of today are getting the same rush playing today's games as we received playing games in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Sure, you could show a 10 year-old of today an old Nintendo game, or something from the Commodore 64. They might play it. They might even like it. But I can guarantee you that they're not going to say, "Omg ... I should just throw away my X-box and get myself a Commodore!!" Do NOT confuse nostalgia with game quality. As the saying goes: There is nothing new under the sun. And that's true of gaming. Has everything been done a thousand times? Of course. Because those of us who are older have been around to see the entire gaming industry sprout from literally nothing to the multi-billion dollar industry it is today. Doesn't mean the games are bad.
It reminds me of people who would criticize band #1 for playing music that sounded too much like band #2. I always thought this to be absurd. I would ask: "Well, do you like band #2?" And they would answer, "Absolutely ... I love band #2." I would then say, "Then why would you dislike band #1? That makes no sense. If the music of band #1 was different, then you wouldn't like them. So it stands to reason both bands would sound similar. At the very worst, it would be as if your favorite band #2 put out a new album and called it band #1. Right?" Well, the same holds for video games. There are only so many "new" concepts one can make that would constitute an enjoyable video game. This is why, for instance, almost every serious show on television is about a) cops, b) doctors, c) lawyers, d) firemen, or e) something set in a fantasy, science-fiction, or horror setting. Why? Because do you really want to watch a show about a factory worker who goes to work everyday, operates a machine, comes home, eats dinner, watches TV -- rinse and repeat -- until the weekend when he goes to the bar? Would that sound entertaining? This is why there are only so many genres for television shows -- or even movies. As such, there are only so many types of games people are going to spend money to play.
@@hannable70 i can agree with most of what you are saying! But what i meant was that (beside nostalgia) we have really seen the evolution of gaming! So for us it was easier not to get bored with it! Because when the magic was gone.. another evolution happened! I’m not being negative about it! But I absolutely believe we lived in a privileged time when it comes to gaming.
@aceman2k320 absolutely!! Nothing beats those dbz fights! We had really good shows back then. The beginning of pokemon! And so many others.. although I have to say, as a father, that still makes fun shows and movies for the kids.
Apple ][e baby.
It will always be the novelty of the experiment over what businesses milk later and try to corporatize. Same reason why people respect musicians after they're gone. It's a delayed effect of what people realize was work well worth the effort
I got disillusioned with the modern game about three years ago and went to old stuff only. Eventually I ended stopping altogether and taking up an instrument.
Who would've thought releasing soulless cashgrabs for 3 decades could do so much harm.
44 years old, remenising the good old MGS and Silent Hill days..I tried D4 and Starfield this year and finally put down my controller last month.
I booked a long trip to India November 4th, got my visa, Vaccines, plain ticket. I'm going to the gym to get in shape, running every 2 days.
I feel alive, that's been a while..
It's cause games wanna be movies rather than just being simple. It's all about the spectacle
was a play tester at microprose and SNES and Sega were my testing assingments. games like airborne ranger ,CiV , Impossible mission ...fun times. had to send in VHS tapes of the games to prove that it didnt crash and could be played and completed .
Microprose made the greatest RPG of all time for PC, if you know you know
Online communities suck, most game companies only support a few game franchises (maximum), most games look like they're the same graphics engine, etc
Don't really enjoy open worlds no more. Not sure what it is but I been replaying linear story games and having a blast.
Because there's too much empty space & filler, which sucks out all the fun. Not everything needs it
Open world games in reality are just “run a lot in between content” simulators lol.
Somethings i hate in modern games, so many launchers and accounts, ridiculous amount of storage, so many filler missions and the ultra graphics. At the end of the day i always come back and play some indie or nintendo game.
Games aren't fun anymore because of greed and today's young devs lack imagination and talent.
I’m gonna say micro-transactions are still bullshit. It was so much better paying for new levels and maps than paying for a new skin that you can’t even see and has no effect to gameplay
That being said games are more complex and entertaining now so I’ll still pay for the better gameplay but won’t pay for something that doesn’t give me more gameplay
Been a game dev for a decade+ now. Problem is that we flipped 'coders/artist' ratio. Now we have 2:1 artists to developers. Cool cut scenes sell and by the time you figure out it's buggy af because we're understaffed in the coding department (yet we have a firm deadline announced a year earlier), it's too late.
I hate cutscenes. They are NEVER a indication of the games quality. Just show me good game play and I will buy.
Last of us 1 and 2 my guy, the uncharted series, there you go !, red ded, ghost of tushinma, the resident evil franchise, horizon 1 and 2, god of war 4 and 5, grand Turismo 7
I kept waiting for people to realize that flashy graphics are an addictive novelty that add no lasting substance to gameplay. I played NES games with the same fervor that kids play photo-realistic games today. It makes literally no difference at all. You know what else has terrible graphics? Chess. Just blocky little figures carved out of wood. That kept people busy for millennia.
@@Someone-vi8dswhy this list?
@@tomryan9827 FAX
Both Valheim and 7 Days to Die are incredible games that use procedural generation. Many open world games start with procedural generation of some type, such as the Far Cry series, but then are handcrafted from there.
I was going to mention Valheim 👍
Returnal is another that uses procedural generation (albeit intelligently)
7 Days to Die is a clanky janky game ngl, it looked as if it was made entirely with a free starter Unity asset, and I wouldn’t even be suprised if it does. The game feels so shit, everything from the movement to the feels of the gameplay, it just felt so cheap and old, you’re way better off playing Project Zomboid or just DayZ instead of that thing.
I think procedurally generated is fine if it's a tool to start the process. Procedurally generated that just makes more of the same kind of system, gets boring after a while. Procedurally generated will get better with better tools. Ie AI powered generation, where it procures excellent ecosystems, and these can then be tweaked to work with a good storyline.
Ziggurat is a game where procedural generation works. And it's hard af to beat.
I thought the Fate series was good, too, or similar dungeon crawlers, with procedurally generated dungeons.
What made Elden Ring popular is the same thing that made Hell Divers 2 popular, it’s new, unique, and it’s world stands on its own two feet
Even with few good AAA games, overall this generation really sucks for gaming. Just want to see 90s and 2000s magic alteast once more in the remainder of my life span
If you want anything close to the classics you have to start investing your dollars into indie games and resist the urge to buy corporate games, all of the greatest games were created by development studios with very small dev teams. Doom was made by a few dudes, Half Life was made by 30, Halo 1-2 was made by 30-40 people. Once you start making games with over 100 people it's a good sign it'll be one of these corporate games that lost its essence. The people who really develop the game take their orders from their publishers, who ultimately take their orders from the shareholders, so follow the money and it always comes back to BlackRock and Vanguard. They've owned the culture since the 2010s
Bf3?
Correction, if you want anything close to the classics, look for the mid-tier games. You've got low-budget Indie games and high-budget AAA games. But you've also got mid-budget B games. They are plenty around and there are even publishers that deal in nothing but B games. No one ever mentions them though, probably because they aren't being innovative like Indie games or ambitious like AAA games.
But those B games are about as close to the classics as you're going to get, because they're made in the same way as those classics. (Usually right down to not having micro-transactions or day one patches.)
@@DanVzare B games? Never heard of this term. Don't you mean AA games? (Or double A).
@@rodrigoreismarinho9552 Focus Entertainment is a good example of a B publisher but yea most people mean the same thing by AA or B. Matrix/Slitherine are another example that comes to mind.
Many large developers self publish these days. Or are owned by companies like Sony or Microsoft. Not sure why you’re bringing up BlackRock here. They certainly don’t own gaming culture.
Worst thing to happen to my hobby was it going mainstream.
the NPC invasion and DEI requirements destroy all subcultures and are in the process of destroying nations now.
Indeed
You're a cash cow, that's why gaming went mainstream.
@@rin7564 Indeed
@@rin7564 Yea, nah. I've got three children. The amount of my disposable income that gets spent on me hardly registers. I buy games during Steam sales or almost not at all. I did subscribe to WoW for about 5 or 6 years when I was much younger but I doubt I qualify as a cow, maybe a pigmy goat or a sheep dog?
Answer is simple : Games only want to make cash and nothing is new anymore just recycling
thats why Indie games like Deep Rock galactic or Graveyard keeper are still good
for me, I just simply cannot sit down and have fun anymore, i can rarely play games without feeling like i’m being irresponsible of my time being an adult, i still love games, but it’s been feeling like a chore than enjoyment, maybe due to the fact that when i was younger and play games all the time, i always achieve personal goals whether it’d be ranks in a competitive games or achievements in single player games, when i play games now I still have that mindset, but just with less time on my hand, so it feels like a chore trying to achieve the same level of satisfaction with less time.
Me as a kid: I don't wanna leave this fantastic game world. Real world sucks.
Me as adult: I want to escape back into the fantastic world of game/s. But, i don't have nor time nor energy nor willpower to do so. Real world sucks but, at least i know how to cope with it.
me as a kid: play every second possible.
me as an adult: play every second possible. less than as a kid ofc, but still every second possible.
me as adult: play often, but most games I delete after 2-5 hours of gameplay
Innovation requires the will to fail. You can't create something new without failing again. The problem with developers is when they find the sweet spot, they never want to leave to create something new. That sweet spot will continue to be the same thing because they're afraid. That's the big problem.
About microtransactions: Just do it like Helldivers 2. You can buy credits to buy stuff in the premium store. But you can also unlock those credits by playing the game. It's actually a great idea.
Early Access is another problem. So many developers are releasing their games into Early Access when many times it is either just a cash grab because the game is so broken it looks nothing like the eventual finished product, if you're lucky that it gets completed at all.
Let’s just face it guys.. we’re old and got responsibilities. That’s why games suck. We just don’t have the time
I felt this lol I have more money than I've ever had before, but now I don't have the time to enjoy the 600 games that I have....and honestly I don't know how people handle with larger libraries. Like there are folks I've seen with 3,000+ games and I can't even fathom the amount of anxiety that would give me.
You guys aren't old enough. I'm retired, 1,756 games and my only responsibilitie is one game at the moment, I've got all the time in the world
Not really actually.
Getting old and moving past video games is definitely something to consider. Gamers get so caught up in blaming the developers for why video games are not fun anymore they never stop to consider themselves in the equation. As we get older our brains change. It doesn't matter how much we loved video games as kids, teens, and young adult 20- year-olds. Eventually we grow out of the desire to sit down in front of a TV/PC screen and tap buttons on a controller while staring at moving pixels. Middle age gamers are more drawn to playing the games they played when they were young than they are to new games. This is why the retro gaming industry is a big deal. Nostalgia is a powerful drug and there is nothing more addictive than playing a game that takes us back to our childhood bedroom where the only concern we had was beating the current level.
I'd argue slightly otherwise. Nostalgia plays a role, but older gamers have also experienced more, so it takes more to engage them and they're more selective in what they play. Seeing the latest carbon copy isn't going to excite them
Exactly they ruin it for themselves by hyping it up too much instead of stumbling on cool games randomly
And beating ourselves off
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i agree we grow out of it. But lets just get over some facts. Lets try to compare 2007-2015 games to 2015-2023 games..
For me it was always because the games started to become movies, rather than games. And that too a long ass movie with 70-100 hours of content. And only a few non-AAA games are fun enough to play.
I gotta agree that it's unacceptable for games to need massive patches shortly after release, just to be playable. It's crazy that you can buy a physical copy of a game, but still need to connect to the intenet to download an update. Publishers are intentionally trying to get rid of physical copies of game, because once everything is digital, they own everything. Disney is already doing this with Song of the South.
The problem with these games is that I feel like I'm watching a damn movie or TV show instead of playing..... Like clicking two buttons and another cut scene starts. If I wanted to watch something I'd fn turn on Netflix
exactly how I feel
31:25 to the end hit me right in the feels. It’s hard to express what video games mean to a person to someone that didn’t grow up playing them. To many people they were the only escape from a shitty childhood
Agreed. My gf dreads games, and told me not to talk about them at all. She failed to understand that games can inpact you the same way that books, movies even a trip can. Tried explain family it too, but non-gamers find it ridiculous and even childish. They cannot see how important they are to some people.
Brother, if it's something that makes you happy, that's all that matters, and those around you will just have to accept and respect that about you, just as much as you respect what they are into. I will enjoy games until I am completely incapable of playing them. That is my choice and what makes me happy, and no one has the right to judge, or say otherwise. Just take good care of your health so we can enjoy them as long as we can.
@@justclauz8746 new gf time :0 and as for family, there are always friends to play with.
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While I didn’t play them to escape a shitty childhood I played them because they were a lot of fun. So many days when friends came over and we’d play NES or sega genesis for hours . I miss the enthusiasm I felt back then
Ive been a gamer since i was 5 in 1990. Still a gamer but now im an adult with 2 kids of my own. My 10 year old plays Roblox and i play with him but he knows i play "dad" games like Elden Ring, Cyberpunk and Days Gone. I don't have the time like i used to for gaming but thats life. There's literally more to life than video games though i love video games with all my heart.
Subbed❤. Making 40yrs old this year Dec. Ive come to realize everthing mentioned in your video. Been gaming since Nintendo and sega genesis days on a black and white tv. I remember sitting in my room playing contra, sonic 2, subterranea, street fighter2, streets of rage, red zone and much more before the days of ps1,2,3,4 and now five, which i refuse to get until the price is worth it in relation to the experience. I just felt a tad bit sad recollecting "how it used to be" in comparison to how it is now. Make it worse the part about getting older and getting more caught up in the "adult world"😢. Ive been telling my daughters this exact same thi g for a number of years now. "There are literally no new ideas being actively pursued by the developers." Sorry i feel like i was starting to rant 😂. Thanks for the video m8!
It feels good to be a retrogamer these days. There are still tons of games from the bygone era to be discovered and enjoyed, even if they're flawed in one way or another, I still enjoy them more than anything that came out recently. Back in the early 2000s I dreamed of having the best PC that could run anything new on high details without hiccups, but since 2009 that need slowly faded away. Eventually I ended up with a mid-end machine because frankly I don't want to play Cyberpunk 2077, when there's a lot of older titles for both PC and consoles I missed out throughout the years. With enough disposable income at my hands I also have gotten myself into collecting and playing on the real hardware instead of emulators, and it's a blast!
I think games of the PS2 were much better but people tell me I'm just nostalgic even though I discover new games from that era I've never played before and still genuinely think they're higher quality
But generally I only really enjoy 3D platformers and particularly 3rd person shooter-3D platformer hybrids these days
@@notdogstv Can't disagree with you there.
It's not nostalgia if a lot of games back in those few golden era's of gaming had more care and thought put into them by loving teams, they were simply just better. and is facts. People who pull the nostalgia card either never grew up in or experienced those particular era's or are just plain ignorant and or can't handle the truth, it's that simple.
I will point out as well that games in the 90's and early 2000's, especially, were made by companies either just starting out or were smaller in general, had less money and had to deal with memory limitations on consoles, thus requiring creative thinking to overcome this issue, often resulting in creative ideas and better thought out ideas for a whole range of things implemented into a single game. It also doesn't help how a lot of dev studios in today's gaming landscape tend to stick to either unreal engine or unity whereas 23-25 years ago, a lot of studios had their own in house engines which resulted in having to develop games in custom engines and a lot of these original engines had their own lighting systems, the way graphics are handled etc.
Now... Lighting in games, especially, is something no longer sought after anymore and or the capability in engines like unreal is not as great since it's not a focused feature and or ill equipped to handle dynamic lighting. For example, In 2002, Splinter Cell's dynamic lights and cloth physics were pretty impressive and nothing has ever succeeded, improved or matched it till this day, I have yet to see a single game match this.
Gaming today is summed up as greed/profit and incompetence, especially Take Two's own CEO, Strauss Zelnick who isn't even a real gamer. Games are now blank discs that you insert and have to download most of the games content from some remote server somewhere so if the game in question get's taken offline, that's one useless disc on your hands. I always wonder why Film and TV studios never followed this path with content they output on discs?
Developer studio today used to have separate divisions, now a good majority of them are merged into one or two in some cases, single companies instead of having different divisions working on different games, everything's under one roof.
In finality, the gaming landscape and it's future doesn't doesn't excite me like it used to and, as much as I hate to say this, I don't think it ever will again like it did in the 90's and 2000's, I wish I could share Valve's very own, Gabe Newell's, optimism of the future of gaming but I just don't.
Although there are some hidden gems here and there, I've always said that the last time gaming was truly exciting was in the 7th gen ( Ps3/Xbox360 era) after that gaming slowly got very stale. @@suphriez2806
Retro games are the way to go, just gotta deal with worse graphics. Started playing retro games because of earthbound. Never played it as a kid so no nostalgia talking, it's one of the best games ever made, and it's 30 years old. Crazy how that game is better than anything I've played in modern gaming since Nier automata
The crazy part is The gaming community influenced a lot of these decisions that these businesses are making we're the ones who keep asking for 100 million different things to do in a game instead of having a few good things to do in a game that are well fleshed out 😭😭🤷♂️
What millions of things? I had so much more fun doing things in Gta vice City than i did in any Ubisoft games or it's clones. More stuff to do is deceptive at best, maybe visually but in term of gameplay, it's less. Climbing towers in Ubisoft games isn't more, you can add 100 of them but it's all just one thing pushed through a repetition. Fetch-quest missions, their all almost the same, go to a location and beat a couple of enemies, collect an item and bring it back, over and over again. Why it worked in the Vice is because the game isn't long, but at least they tried to make the repetition a lot more fun gameplay wise. I tried the new Dying Light and got bored 2 hours in, why? Because it is the same old game as done to death 50 times before. Thus far, if we look away from remasters, Rockstar is the only one that have given us more or just enough to flesh out a fun experience.
I never asked for this either. I prefered when games were more simple. Also fun
Used to be before internet we only had magazines giving rough release time frames so less stress on developers to meet customer expected release dates. This allowed developers to add more polish to games before release. Also meant they delivered a finished product or company could sink.
Now they know they can patch any issue they don't seem to care about delivering a polished product. Crazy when we think they now have ability to large scale beta test.
Because everything growing up we were playing was based on a hobby. Now it’s based on a business. I don’t know if you guys remember it had the same experience, but I got made fun of or was just flat out afraid to tell people I played video games. Then somewhere, it got REALLY popular, was more widely accepted and everyone wanted to get involved in it. They did. The market is now flooded. There’s CONSTANTLY tons of games coming out, and each one wants you to keep investing tons of time and money in their game in a world where I personally have 300+ games on steam alone. If every game wants me to play 1000s of hours, it’s not going to happen. Then you have to think about the TikTok and short videos era. It’s causing a huge upward trend in ADHD diagnosis because nobody has an attention span anymore. I’m guilty of it. I can’t stick to one game. I play tons of games in a day just to try and find my “fix” for the month. Binge it for a month then get bored and look for the next game
Here's what blows my mind the most, you have some early 2000s games like for example GTA SA, then fans would make a multiplayer fan-mod and have 200 people running around on a server crashing cars, being cops and criminals, doing whatever. 2023 now and having 64 people on 1 multiplayer server is still some kind of a huge deal. Like wtf.
Ha. Modding will always beat the Triple AAA industry. Just look at Skyrim.
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Mmo''s being doing that for more than 3 decades, and can fill up to 3000 players up to 5000 players on one server.
it's odd that the industry went backwards.
Even Morrowind got an excellent multiplayer mod. How these modders even accomplish something like that is beyond me, but we love em for it
Good thing I have a self imposed isolationist mentality concerning the internet. As a 90s gamer kid, I always appreciated the school yard talks and rumors about video game mysteries. So much so that I NEVER look at anything concerning a game I'm looking forward to. This includes while playing it. I'd rather get lost in a game trying to figure it out than ruin the wonder the devs put into their craft. My dream for game devs is to make a game so coded that it's impossible to data mine it without proprietary software, that way EVERYONE is back to good old days of working together as a community to figure out and beat a game instead of exploiting the systems within them to speedrun. Nothing against speedrunning as I myself love it but that's only because of the internet exploiting the entirety of a game down to its code. Cheers everyone!
I see where you're coming from. I wonder if that would be really possible. Would it be just a matter of coding? Even if no one could data mine it, I can clearly picture some cheeky gamers with lots of passion and time to spare beating the whole game in a week and posting a walkthrough online, one click away. Totally murdering the idea of casual gamers working together as a community to figure things out. Which is a bit depressing, I'd love to have that back.
@@nanazoi-ex6ji Anything can be mined - it's just a matter of how hard you want to make it. It's like DRM. Anything can be cracked, given enough time, resources, tools, and trial and error. Could they make it a lot harder than they do now? Absolutely. But you'd likely have to trade off performance issues for things like encrypting the datasets (because then the game is having to decrypt and re-encrypt everything as you go); or you'd have hardware issues alongside DRM, etc.
The best way to go about that right now though - honestly, AI procgen, even if it's not quite there yet. That one is going to change RPGs and adventure games, becucase it can create a world that adapts, changes, and grows, in a way we can't make them right now, cost-effectively. Because then? You get a game that it would be pointless to datamine, given enough variance. No two datasets would be alike - unless you build the AI around a world seed or shared server for co-op, etc. And that'd mean a game that had a consistent world, overarching goals, game logic, etc - but the experience would be unique to you and your friends. AI offers a way to procedurally generate new items, new enemies, entire quest lines, NPC dialogue, etc. At a point that's workable at scale, all it needs is the ability to language-code the framework for it.
AI has its ethics issues and all, but it really stands to be a big potential for getting us over this "so much world, so little to do" plateau we've hit.
@@lancefletcher2963 That's quite interesting, never heard of this before. I imagine if an AI could recreate my favourite games to have a different world every playthrough, adapt itself and grow, I'd never see the sunlight again.
@@nanazoi-ex6ji the AI would create games you like 50% of the time and nonsense the other 50.
You are completely sad and pathetic theres nothing wrong with speed running
Most of the games today are not fun. They are graphically amazing but not fun. I have no problem with graphics as long as my computer can play it on low settings with decent fps. However, it's becoming difficult with each passing month. Games are too long with lots of unnecessary missions which are boring and many times straight frustrating. Too much realism is not a good thing. It's a curse.