What The Internet Did To Gaming

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    The internet ruined gaming. Or did it? Either way, this is a topic I've been thinking about for awhile, as so many gamers seem to be dissatisfied with the current state of gaming, and as I thought about it, I realized that all of the issues I feel gamers are currently facing stem from the internet. In this video, I dive into a few of the reasons why I believe the internet ruined gaming, and my reasoning might be a bit different than what the title would convey. Either way, I hope you guys enjoy the video.
    Chapters:
    Intro - 0:00 - 3:00
    Online Gaming and the Fall of Couch Co-op: 3:00 - 15:31
    Toxic Players and Cheating in Online Gaming: 15:31 - 22:15
    The Internet Simplified Gaming: 22:15 - 25:47
    Our Need to Consume: 25:47 - 33:37
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Komentáře • 176

  • @thatguybis1997
    @thatguybis1997  Před 9 dny

    If you guys are interested, I've been doing livestreams here on the channel of mostly Souls content, come by and check them out if you want to hang. The streams are M-F 7:30 PM EST.
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  • @KingKrouch
    @KingKrouch Před 6 měsíci +22

    I feel like an aspect on why video games are so bland and inoffensive nowadays (and it ties into how the internet ruined gaming) is because game publishers listen to a vocal minority of people on sites like Twitter and ResetEra, and in the case of publicly traded companies they're extremely performative with not stepping on literally anyone's toes, for a higher ESG score, but this is a whole other conversation that I'd rather not get into here. You even see this in the field of game localization nowadays, or how Sony, Microsoft, and Valve are forcing content edits on games that have gotten ESRB ratings and are sold in retail stores. The amount of games with poorly balanced difficulty options (where you may as well play on easy or normal) and removing fail states/animations in stuff like QTEs, while not having flexible input options or toggles for flashing lights just seems like hilarious preachiness with no sincerity to me.
    Or the fact that day one patches have normalized games shipping completely busted, without any patches unless there's enough backlash. Just look at any recent AAA release or just Japanese releases on Steam in general. Being a modder in today's climate went from "doing things because you have interest in it" to "people just force this onto you as an obligation and you'd rather be doing anything else". There's literally no motivation for game publishers to do better because they can just throw the "Just refund the game" thing, when such a thing was never really prevalent around when Arkham Knight released and caused a big controversy.
    Baldur's Gate 3 was mostly praised as much as it was (Yes, the game has a ton of cut content, rugpulls prior to release, and cringe romance routes that just get pushed onto you as soon as you get to camp) because of how low the bar has gotten with western RPGs, with companies like BioWare being shells of their former selves, and CDPR losing the public goodwill they had after Cyberpunk's launch.
    To think that Phantasy Star Online was one of the first bastions of online gaming just for it's recent entry to be a perfect analogy of everything wrong with modern gaming is just baffling to me. Thinking on putting together a retro PC build to play older games, because literally nothing in the AAA or Japanese space (outside FromSoftware) in the past few years is worth playing nowadays, and I barely use any of my current-gen consoles or current PC to play games, because the state of it all is just depressing. I mainly emulate older games nowadays.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +7

      I spend most of my gaming hours on retroarch these days, great emulation software if you want to check it out!

    • @KingKrouch
      @KingKrouch Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah I'm familiar with RetroArch. Some of the CRT shaders on it are absolutely nutty, and the Steam version has cloud saves for saves and save states. Makes it really easy to have my saves with me across devices. @@thatguybis1997

    • @davidaitken8503
      @davidaitken8503 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Nintendo is easily the best Japanese company with not just their first party games but stuff from Monolith Soft and Platinum Games too. As you mentioned, From Software is excellent too. As for Western studios, most have never been any good. The ones that were good like Factor 5 and Midway have all gone out of business. A few small studios like Wayforward and Shin'en are still alive.

    • @KingKrouch
      @KingKrouch Před 6 měsíci

      @@davidaitken8503 And Traveler’s Tales. They only make Lego Games now, but their games used to be like Factor 5’s and Rare’s in terms of pushing technical boundaries and utilizing the hardware to it’s fullest (despite being multiplatform games usually).
      Nintendo is one of those companies where it’s two steps forward, ten steps back. Like how they’re pulling a Namco with patenting gameplay mechanics, DMCAing open source backup tools, and the $70 price tag shenanigans soured my opinion on ToTK. And that’s before getting to how bad they tend to be with preserving their games (even if we know they archive things), and how while Nintendo Treehouse’s localization practices are bad (or at least polarizing), the only thing that makes me not want to play Xenoblade/FE more are the fans that will defend literally anything they put out and engage in corrupt practices to get rid of mods that fix things, and I could’ve sworn it wasn’t this bad when Fates or TMS got a retranslation patch. Which makes them not region locking the Switch, and not interfering with third-party developers (like what Sony, Microsoft, and Valve has been doing, despite allowing shovelware and busted games on their store) all the more strange.
      Phil Fish was right about the Japanese games industry, but for completely different reasons. Technical debt (just look at most Steam releases being busted and the fanboys that will uncritically eat that up while also crying about “objectionable” content and being less forgiving towards western developers making similar mistakes), being out of touch with their actual fans and players in general, and attempting to appeal to “modern audiences” and bad attempts at appealing to westerners come to my mind. The dying console market in Japan in favor of mobile games, handhelds, and (to a degree thanks to vtubers) PC Gaming would be an interesting thing to see discussed. Most of the console market there has failed to adjust to the times, and it shows, look at Capcom’s recent anti-modder schtick and how most Japanese developers (outside FromSoft) have become too complacent with releasing shovelware, and it’s apparent. As sinister as it can be, I honestly think gacha games are more in touch with their fans than any contemporary Japanese console/PC game developer, and this kind of state is why I see more niche developers dying in the coming years.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci +2

      Also don't forget that BioWare was effectively ruined by EA's acquisition.

  • @M64bros
    @M64bros Před 4 měsíci +4

    All the internet basically did to gaming is create a bunch of toxic controversy across the internet, harassing and attacking anyone for enjoying games they don't like and calling them bootlickers, harassing and attacking the developers that have Twitter, cyberbullying voice actors especially with the MJ actor from Spider-Man 2, sending Sakurai death threat over DLC and so much more!
    All the internet has done is basically screwed up gaming from the get-go and I can definitely see why people outside the internet are sick of social media talking about it.

  • @jd-wn1po
    @jd-wn1po Před 6 měsíci +38

    the internet has come with so many benefits but everyone is realizing the negatives too. this is why i love nintendo, they still have the charm they did back in the day without the gimmicks.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +10

      Nintendo’s still got it!
      In some departments anyway.

  • @gerardoalejandrorezavilleg9039
    @gerardoalejandrorezavilleg9039 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Those last 3 minutes hit hard, not only in videogames but in life generally. We're obsessed with consumption and we rush to finish all we can before we die

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It is something to think about and reflect on, for sure.

  • @ricardoojeda2963
    @ricardoojeda2963 Před 6 měsíci +59

    Video games should've stayed as a niche hobby, everything that gets popular or enters the mainstream, is inundated by greedy mindsets and posers who just seek attention

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +9

      I have to agree.

    • @DTiSthimself
      @DTiSthimself Před 6 měsíci +5

      I think that just means more variety to me
      Sure, there’s some Assholes but there’s more variety

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Anime too

    • @mischiviousteefmonster3900
      @mischiviousteefmonster3900 Před 6 měsíci +3

      There's still games being made for certain niches. The games that don't have wide appeal are the ones I've enjoyed the most who centered around a simple concept and fully fleshed out a game around it.

    • @bionicallyacomputer292
      @bionicallyacomputer292 Před měsícem

      mm

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum Před 4 měsíci +3

    I grew up on the point-and-click Nancy Drew mystery games, which I would play with my siblings. We would strategize next moves, crack codes together, and discuss whodunit. We had so much fun, even though the game wasn't online and didn't have couch co-op! 😊

  • @abnerlinbueno9317
    @abnerlinbueno9317 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I really miss gameinformer magazines. The cover art, the articles, and the little tricks of the new games are coming out. It was amazing!

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 4 měsíci

      Stuff like that back in the day was really cool.

  • @MasterPJ86
    @MasterPJ86 Před měsícem +1

    Internet ruined SO much in gaming, and not only gaming in the world and our society. It's probably the biggest double edged sword in the history of human inventions.

  • @TheRealNintendoKid
    @TheRealNintendoKid Před 6 měsíci +5

    I think Eldin Ring is kind of a bad example because it's so ridiculously hard in certain spots that the only way to beat it is to try and fail 100 times, and even then it still comes down to luck regarding the order in which the boss decides to throw out his attacks.
    It's a good example of the absolutely oldest games I can remember where you HAD to memorize things, but those games weren't really all that good either. The best ones were the ones designed so you could learn along the way and adapt as opposed to just memorizing every little thing.
    And actually now that I think about it, Eldin Ring is a BAD example because I remember being bombarded early on with tutorial messages that would pop up and explain something to me, but I had no frame of reference for what the hell it was talking about. So then I didn't figure out how to do a lot of different things until much later when I actually had the right stats/equipment/whatever to do them.
    And its class/progression system is a giant mess. It's set up so that you MUST build your character one of a few very specific ways, or it's gonna be a long hard slog. Then there's a ton of things it should probably at least give you clues about, but it never says a word.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Sure. I prefer retro games in general nowadays, it’s really all I ever play. The Souls games I’ll play once when they come out, but they’re not nearly as replayable for me.

  • @carmastermax2129
    @carmastermax2129 Před měsícem +1

    I know exactly what you mean by the co-operative nature of older games of trying to figure out stuff. I used to love watching my older brother play games and try to help him with what I understood. He would even talk it through with me as he enjoyed showing me the games he played. One time, on Assassins Creed I, he hit a block on this level where he had to parkour up a tower to progress the mission and reached this balcony that couldn't be reached with how he knew the parkour system worked. Eventually he gave the controller to me to mess around while he was trying to look it up online and I actually found the way to progress! It made that moment so memorable for me and I think about it sometimes now among the other memories of playing with my brother.
    I agree that modern games have definitely lost the art of couch co-op and I am happy to see that developers are going back to this with smaller games.

  • @Condor-yr6wp
    @Condor-yr6wp Před 6 měsíci +14

    One game that totally supports this is Outer Wilds. The game is so great because you have to explore and figure stuff out yourself. If you look up the answers it takes away everything that makes the game fun.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +3

      That game is really phenomenal.

    • @TheRealNintendoKid
      @TheRealNintendoKid Před 6 měsíci +1

      yeah, that's true, but fuck that 20 minute timer.

    • @hakimomatata
      @hakimomatata Před 4 měsíci

      It is an outstanding game. Incomparable to anything else on the market these days.

  • @rokeeagle9354
    @rokeeagle9354 Před 3 měsíci +2

    It is convenient how when I tried to watch this video, the page didn't load because my internet router kept dying XD

  • @thewanderingartists
    @thewanderingartists Před 6 měsíci +7

    I hate companies like sweet baby inc.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Lol what company is that???

    • @thewanderingartists
      @thewanderingartists Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@thatguybis1997 the main reason for their existence is to force woke narrative into gaming, they definitely had a hand in Spiderman 2 for the character assassination of Peter Parker, recently a youtuber called them out and they made their X profile private and (suspiciously) got CZcams to age restrict his video as well.

    • @ricardoojeda2963
      @ricardoojeda2963 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's sad that people like Sam Lake, the guy who made and wrote the first two Max Payne games, also sold out to these woketards. If devs keep listening to danger hair zoomers on social media, gaming will stay like this. Glad I went full retro

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@thewanderingartists sadly even Valve is one of their customers.

  • @Arkl1te
    @Arkl1te Před 4 měsíci +1

    4:24 wow that guy reduced his keyboard into lego pieces lmao

  • @davidaitken8503
    @davidaitken8503 Před 6 měsíci +7

    You've hit the nail on the head on every one of these points. It is so refreshing to hear someone that gets it.

  • @sion7651
    @sion7651 Před 6 měsíci +8

    i always put an absurd amount of hours in one game but i also only play 3 to 4 games a year.
    this year it was dead Space 100 hours, Zelda Totk 300 Hours, Octopath 2 150 hours and now cyberpunk 2077 214 hours ongoing.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci +1

      I remember putting 320 hours in Skyrim, 100 in GTA IV + DLCs and almost 80 in HL2. Even to this day, I absolutely love the Source engine's simplicity and freedom in the games it uses, along with Bethesda's usual track record of making games with so much replay value, if I fire up Skyrim again I would have just as much fun as I had in 2015.

  • @DavidKlausa
    @DavidKlausa Před 5 měsíci +4

    Pre-internet, there was asking your friends at school for help, or waiting for the next Nintendo Power or Gamepro and hoping there'd be an article about the game you're stuck on. You could even write snail mail to Nintendo's "game counselors" and they'd send a letter back with tips. Either way, those games taught patience!

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Why does that sound so cool to me lol

    • @adambickford8720
      @adambickford8720 Před 21 dnem

      @@thatguybis1997 Rose tinted glasses. They also sold you the answers at a 1-900 number and charged you by the minute and made BS 'puzzles' that basically required it.

  • @twistedwhiskeymaker
    @twistedwhiskeymaker Před 6 měsíci +3

    SOCOM I and II opened up my world to online gaming back in the day. Miss that experience.

  • @hakimomatata
    @hakimomatata Před 4 měsíci +2

    A couple days ago my brother and I played 'It Takes Two' and we had a blast. Now I watch this video about MMOs vs. Local Co-op. I wholeheartedly agree with your message. 'Couch co-op gaming needs to make a comeback.' Indeed. Thanks a bunch for uploading this, TGB :)

  • @MFJMD564
    @MFJMD564 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Now imagine with AI being able to improve images on the fly (already possible, not publically used yet). In a few years, you'll be able to start your old games from 1990, and get photorealistic sprites. We can even imagine being able to choose the graphic style...

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 4 měsíci +1

      We’ve already seen it with AI upscale textures of our old games, so honestly? It’s already happening. Crazy.

  • @AyhamHaque
    @AyhamHaque Před 5 měsíci +4

    can you shout out a petition to make nintendo games less expensive

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci

      Maybe one of these days!

    • @M64bros
      @M64bros Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@thatguybis1997 I've heard a rumor it's going to happen and the dream might come true

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica Před měsícem +1

    The biggest implication the Internet has over gaming, and I'm not afraid to say it, is how indie games have been corralled.
    On one hand, the Internet brings attention to these excellent indie games that would otherwise have flown under the radar. On the other, the treatment of these games and their developers as "indie" has forced an iron curtain between them and the AAA space. Rather than up-and-coming visionaries being hired by companies and given a budget to make something new and creative, they're pushing out their own products on open markets. While this is good for the developers, making their own money without the middle man, it continues to divide these two sectors of gaming. A lot of indie games don't have much opportunity or resources to advertise themselves, outside of word-of-mouth. Meanwhile, AAA games advertise themselves through brand recognition and lazy commercials. There's a complete disparity between the quality of a game, and the endorsement it actually gets.
    Indie games are forced into a position of inferiority, where no matter how clever and ingenious their stories or gameplay may be, will never really able to surpass that "indie" reputation since they don't have the budget or manpower to take them to new heights. Thus, AAA experiences remain predictable and stagnant, and despite their rapid development, indie games will eventually reach a state of stagnancy too. Especially when most are locked behind digital PC storefronts and aren't self-sufficient for the growing customer base of casual console players. Gaming is becoming divided into tribalism, not based on console, but tastes. This is the apex of the 7th Generation FPS dude-bro development. I don't want to sound like a cynic or gatekeeper, but gaming is doomed to run itself into the ground.

  • @lowellhouser7731
    @lowellhouser7731 Před 5 měsíci +3

    50GB Day1 patches. Always online connections for single player games. Games that are rendered unplayable when the studio abandons it. The end of dedicated LAN/local servers. Those of us that started gaming in the DOS era saw all of this coming, because those of us PC gamers knew that the big devs were going to do to consoles what they had been doing to us.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci +1

      PC gamers had it good for awhile.

    • @lowellhouser7731
      @lowellhouser7731 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 Still do. But we also had pisspoor ports, buggy games that will NEVER be patched properly, features disabled/removed because they weren't available on the console version, etc. Now so do the consoles in a lot of ways, because they are now just cheap PCs with a controller.

  • @therenegadegamer7422
    @therenegadegamer7422 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I did a double take when I saw you change your channel name and pic thought I subscribed to another channel

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lol no it's still little old me. Just a different name and picture. Quik Reviews RIP

  • @b.delacroix7592
    @b.delacroix7592 Před 4 měsíci +3

    MMOs and MMO like games suffer from the internet in a huge way. New update with cool new stuff. Yea. Great. By the time you get home from work it is already solved and the "best" solution is on the internet.
    You then can't get away from spoilers as you join a party to go do that new dungeon but everyone insists that only the "approved" build process is to be done.
    Its no fun.

  • @Tapunks
    @Tapunks Před měsícem +2

    Although I agree with your assessment, there was something you missed when mentioning game reviews. If the game has a horrible review by IGN, Kotaku, or other "journalists," I am almost guaranteed to be interested. Even back with Game Informer, they would rate games I found to be spectacular with low ratings, and boring games with high ratings merely based on the company who made the game. Almost like they were paid to give it a good review. It makes you wonder about those "journalists."

  • @streeflyng
    @streeflyng Před 6 měsíci +3

    Enjoyed the two videos about this topic and all the info researched about the topic. It's good to see someone catches the point. But something resonated within me over this topic (most in the first video)... i don't understand why you didn't even talk a little about Larian Studio's games and the odyssey they went through this decade.

  • @paulnewhouse5126
    @paulnewhouse5126 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The og COD mw2 turned me off of online play because of the cheating, even yesterday i was playing dark souls 3 and had an invincible guy kick my ass where half of his body was missing. However Denuvo uses so many resources and slows doesn't the game, Remember RE village? The game ran like shit but once denuvo was removed the game worked so much better.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lol yuuup glad I covered all my bases with this in the video!

  • @annasit4894
    @annasit4894 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Low key think this is why rogue likes/lites have such an appeal these day

  • @dominokos
    @dominokos Před 5 měsíci +1

    Anyone that's also burned out on gaming really owes it to themselves to play Tunic. I thought I had outgrown gaming but that game showed me that that is not true whatsoever. It has managed to capture my sense of wonder like no game since Outer Wilds.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Nier Automata was amazing, so I definitely have to check Tunic out.

    • @dominokos
      @dominokos Před 5 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 It's a very different game, don't get me wrong. I'm just talking about the refreshing effect it had on me that's mostly burned out on gaming since I've pretty much played it all haha

  • @Illasera
    @Illasera Před 6 měsíci +3

    Now make part 2 - how the internet killed creativity by creating massive echo chambers.
    its not what you like, its what THEY like (the internet users)
    and THEY (The internet users) like what OTHER internet users like, which is the same.
    when was the last time, youtube comment readers, that you had a thought of your own without consulting the internet? (Be honest with yourselves)
    Here is a tip for you , single player gamers, most of the old games that you like (hell even the new), probably have crappy AI that doesn't pose any challenge, find the old games that you like that are moddable, make a better AI, enjoy a new game experience.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci

      It's almost creepy when I look back at that episode from Serial Experiments: Lain, when it warned about the online echo-chambers. It's so creepy that a 1998 anime predicted what would happen more than 2 decades later.

    • @Illasera
      @Illasera Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@RockstarRomania never seen it but i have heard of it.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci

      @@Illasera definitely give it a shot! It's only 12 or 13 episodes if I remember.

  • @adambickford8720
    @adambickford8720 Před 21 dnem

    The internet killed all the johnnys leaving only timmy and spike. That's not going to be much fun for *either* of them, meanwhile johnny is optimizing the fun out of the next big thing.
    The new york minute is now impossibly long.

  • @RockstarRomania
    @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci +2

    You know? When I was a kid in school and HS, I used to have horrible computers that barely played games, a bit later in HS I had a slightly better laptop that managed to play the likes of Skyrim on medium or GTA IV to an extent. I missed so many awesome games throughout the decade and then some due to the horrible compute power I had on hand back then.
    Fast forward to 2023 and to a powerful RTX 4080 laptop, I barely even have the time to play games. That honestly depresses me and makes me wish to just kill this hobby for once since I feel too overwhelmed with the huge backlog I gathered.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      God I relate to this so much it’s ridiculous.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 Happy that I'm not alone then! A lot of times I can't help it but to compare myself to the people I know who were lucky to actually play.

  • @Sticks_of_Truth
    @Sticks_of_Truth Před 6 měsíci +3

    This channel needs more support. Is this not what we're on CZcams for? Subscribe, people.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +3

      You’re truly speaking the truth, Sticks of Truth.
      Thanks for the nice comment and I’m happy to have you as a subscriber :)

    • @danmar007
      @danmar007 Před 6 měsíci +1

      More like Sticks_of_Naïveté.

    • @Sticks_of_Truth
      @Sticks_of_Truth Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@danmar007
      No. It's extremely easy to hit that subscribe button after watching a quality video. We all can see the gap in watched to subscribed. It would be naive to think that someone pointing this out doesn't know how fickle the CZcams audience is. People get more entertainment out of leaving a negative comment than subscribing. A little positivity goes a long way. You could have been inspired to leave a helpful comment of your own, but priorities come first.

  • @eilegz
    @eilegz Před 6 měsíci +1

    somehow i understand more why things like game as a service its the future and companies see it this way too, the whole idea of no finite game, with more content, dripping slowly and handpicked experience, its like the internet changed the whole paradigm...

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci

      Absolutely. Why have gamers make a one-time purchase when you can get them on a subscription and get money forever?

  • @DTiSthimself
    @DTiSthimself Před 6 měsíci +2

    I know this will be completely outdated but there is literally no comments on this post like only a couple

  • @wathsarawanniarachchi7517
    @wathsarawanniarachchi7517 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Super underated channel. u are gonna be fanous someday

  • @hakimomatata
    @hakimomatata Před 4 měsíci +1

    The final point of the video really hits home. The need to consume has increased tremendously. That's a key point, I think, and one way to see it. There are a number of games in which the story plays a major part and the hint/dodge-every-attack/auto-aim etc. functions may serve the purpose of keeping you focused on the narrative and/or the massive scale exploration you mention in another video. Maybe it's necessary to differentiate between more or less linear platformers/jump'n'runs on the one side and relatively open-world RPGs on the other. The first won't make much sense when played with aforementioned functions since what is asked for is your dexterity, mastering button combos and showing great reflexes. The latter need facilitating options from time to time, though, lest the modern gamer might lose interest because of challenging encounters. That would be a pity for all of us who want to enjoy a good story instead of spending hours finishing off an end boss.
    Best game from my experience in terms of throwing you into cold waters, great mix of amazing story and challenging maneuvering is 'Outer Wilds''... due to its laissez-faire approach it is not to everyone's taste, of course. I agree that every game experience is subjective and has a lot to do with one's personal approach. I went in without any knowledge, without expectations. 'Outer Wilds' is a real statement against tutorial-based introductions and internet-based achievement hunts. Just my opinion dude. Having said that, I have to admit that I did consult a walkthru 2 or three times in order to progress... after having been stuck for hours I bowed to the online community. In gratitude.

  • @904root
    @904root Před 4 měsíci

    couch coop was my childhood if i had someone to play with

  • @Arkl1te
    @Arkl1te Před 4 měsíci +1

    I mean... I rely on Steam reviews x10 more than any of the "press reviews" that easily get paid to lie with their scores (like Gamespot and IGN)

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Steam reviews are pretty accurate nowadays aren’t they?

  • @PesareShojae
    @PesareShojae Před měsícem

    What is the game in 26:46?

  • @ArturoHoyte
    @ArturoHoyte Před 4 měsíci

    There were gaming magazines like Nintendo Power that gave hints, codes, and walk throughs. Then of course there was the Game Shark 🦈

  • @CathodeRayTube99
    @CathodeRayTube99 Před měsícem +1

    Good video. What's the game at 12:52?

  • @svenblubber5448
    @svenblubber5448 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Holy F**k, 32:02 almost gave me a heart attack!

  • @Ingisen
    @Ingisen Před 5 měsíci +1

    The best mystery/discovery/no-Internet experiences for me were:
    Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2
    Jak & Daxter
    Little Nightmares 1 and 2, soon 3
    Nier Replicant/Automata
    ICO
    Horizon ZD and FW (although much of it is discovered through journals, instead of feeding them to the player organically)
    The Jak 3 Haven City Port easter egg is the fondest one for me. OG Naughty Dog creators at their finest

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Nier on that list is probably one of my favs.

    • @Ingisen
      @Ingisen Před 5 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 Sidequests in rep.122 were 50/50, but Aut. elevated it all. It has the most creative use of Online/Internet during the final ending

  • @user-sw9ow2fp9e
    @user-sw9ow2fp9e Před 2 měsíci

    When multi player started I tried but as soon as I would enter the game I would get creamed even when I immediately started looking for another player and I would see no one. Then I read about invisible walls. It stoped me from playing multi player ever again. I stick with single player.

  • @danmar007
    @danmar007 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The Apranet??? It's Arpanet. While I'm here, you don't write Triple AAA. That would be 9 As. It's just Triple A. You're not just giving gamers the bisness, you're giving English the business. Up your game (no pun intended) and you can up your subs. Unless this is just a hobby.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci

      Lol

    • @danmar007
      @danmar007 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 I'm glad you enjoyed my silly wordplay. It's a delicate thing. Not everyone responds with a LoL.

  • @NiteOwlJoe
    @NiteOwlJoe Před 4 měsíci +1

    This is a lopsided nostalgia trip lol. There used to be tip-lines you could call, with game "experts" on the other end who'd help you get through a tough level or help you find a secret. There used to be mountains of cheat code books and strategy guides published back in the day. Not to mention GameShark, and before that Game genie.
    Since the very inception of gaming, gamers have been looking for hand-holding shortcuts, AND ways to cheat their way through the game. All the internet did was enable them to do it faster? More efficiently? It wasn't some wasteland of hints and external direction in the cartridge era. You and your brother just didn't seek that stuff out? Just like modern gamers are welcome to do the same.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'm just saying the barrier to entry was greater. You have the point exactly. The internet enables us to do it WAY faster. I think you're underestimating how big of a deal that is.

    • @NiteOwlJoe
      @NiteOwlJoe Před 4 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997 honestly, yeah. If I really pumped the brakes and considered how instantaneous it is nowadays- I'd agree with that.

  • @DMitr0
    @DMitr0 Před 6 měsíci +4

    the auto aim was always a thing in rockstar games since GTA3. it's a slow game, hence why you kinda need it.
    and for that whole section, i'd say, make it all optional. best solution. look man, there's some games with boring ass puzzles, the new god of war as an example, but in that game most fights are also boring as shit and are only roadblocks to stretch the game, instead of how it was in the old GOW, where they managed to make the fodder fights, feel like events.
    and in those games, i praise the sun that i don't have to get stuck in those sections, slowing down the thing which i actually want to experience, the gameplay or story.
    and, diffrent to most other ppl, if the whole finding out by yourself is fun, i'm willing to scratch my nogging to find out, without consulting the elder gods. but that's a big if.
    also the reason why i detest the soulslike games. no options, and the reward is most of the times, getting your shit kicked in even deeper. no way to experience the world in a more casual way, only the way of, screaming at my monitor. and i'm too old for that shit. i played nintendo, i even started in the commodore days.
    i've been there when the baby finally turned into a kid. and it had to grow up eventually.
    the bigger issue at hand with modern gaming is, modern gaming. woke woke woke, ugly ugly ugly.
    bet my ass those types would also hammer at fromsoft way harder, if their CACs wouldn't already look like banged in doorknobs, when you try to make someone looking halfway decent XD
    this cathering to everybody, and pleasing no one, comes directly from those types

    • @DMitr0
      @DMitr0 Před 6 měsíci

      and starfield is trash, and did the false marketing.
      don't feel bad for a second that it gets the hate.
      25 years in the making, and a 5 head team did the space exploration better than a over 100 ppl team.
      has nothing to do with the opinion of others.
      the game is dated cause of the engine.

    • @DMitr0
      @DMitr0 Před 6 měsíci +1

      and for the end quote, only game left that i'm actually eagerly waiting for, is the FF7 remake. shit was a dream since i've seen the tech demo. it's finally here, and i know it will further complete me. cause the OG game was a part of me since the first time i played t. and i played it to excess, cause well, no internet back then. the guidebook was also only so much of a help, cause the ssystem went far above my 13 year old head, without having an explanation which cathered to my type of understanding, which the guidebook didnh't do at all.
      gotta take the perks of gaming these days, and ignore what doesn't suit you.
      like the soulslike games. atp, it's a mere set change with every new release aside from sekiro. i already seene enough to not be interested in it anymore. even hating it is beyond me these days.
      it won't get better, but it can hardly get worse.
      also, enjoy GTA6, it's the last rockstar game with one of the actual creatives attached to it, and he will most likely leave, and leave rockstar a completly corporatized, wokeified company. and i'm so cooled, that i'm not even mildley hyped. it's more as if i'm awaiting the passing of a friend, which has a terminal illness, and knowing that i will have a last holiday with him (never really played GTA online tho, so only here for the solo portion).
      gotta be glad when you get the chance to know that you can say good bye. had a friend pass recently, where i didn't even have that chance.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci

      I especially agree with that last part.
      Cater to everyone, please no-one.

    • @RockstarRomania
      @RockstarRomania Před 6 měsíci

      @@DMitr0 I probably couldn't even run it on my RTX 4080 laptop given the absolutely horrible optimization.

  • @ChandravijayAgrawal
    @ChandravijayAgrawal Před 4 měsíci

    I think main problem in today's games is story, I played Gothic for most of the years, meanwhile I tried many famous ones like House of the Dead, then Risen recently, Kingdom Come Deliverance, PVZ the iconic game, I spent last few days searching for games like these, closest I found was Saints Row, rest of the games have too much complex controls and restrictions, also many games feels open world or AAA but the control show they are not exactly, those games are just expensive page flip kind of game, the games should establish clear purpose for the player, the reason why game as old as Mario or Prince or Persia is memorable to this day even when many of those are written in DOS, or high end games like Tomb Raider.
    If all these things are not possible, the other way developers can move to make game enjoyable is interactions, there are some games where NPCs are fully AI, if GTA 6 can add those AI NPCs to game and we can have MMORPGs, real ones instead of flashy style, that would be enjoyable, but for me story and end goal is main factor for enjoying the game

  • @alejandroz1606
    @alejandroz1606 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Just this great intro made me subscribe

  • @AronHallan
    @AronHallan Před 4 měsíci +1

    word to mouth and sharing experiences with friends made me enjoy games more when other friends were playing it too.

  • @mfz65
    @mfz65 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Your bro sounds like he's got some dance moves 🪱

  • @AiDecc
    @AiDecc Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great great vid mate :) Cool, interesting, informative, factual etc.
    Thanks :)

  • @noelcastillo3829
    @noelcastillo3829 Před 29 dny

    A game's true value has always been its longevity, that means after its "forgotten" it has a way of returning to discourse. Kind of like all the clips you mentioned that start with I remember doing this... or that. I think Killer 7 is one of the best examples. Hoping Xenosaga becomes the next. The business cycle does demand you consume fast, and as we have discover a bit of culture war is now needed to fuel the hype. I'ts an ugly business, and only after the dust settles can we engage with these games properly. That being said, ain't no body breeding that golden chocobo without a walkthrough in the 90s.

  • @kberlinquette
    @kberlinquette Před 2 měsíci +1

    You will never get this.. you will never get this... lalalala XD

  • @Liqdsky
    @Liqdsky Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wow I love this channel

  • @filypefx
    @filypefx Před 6 měsíci +1

    Live service, that is the problem. with luck it will solve it by itself (like you barrely can play one maybe 2 live services, and that will end sometime... or perpetual gaming the same game until death?... )

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Live service is another issue that I could’ve tackled within this video, just so many things to tackle it’s impossible to take them all on.
      But it is yet another thing that has changed the gaming landscape, no doubt.

  • @tarsem3258
    @tarsem3258 Před 5 měsíci +1

    how about a video on blockchain gaming?

  • @fffhunter7765
    @fffhunter7765 Před 5 měsíci +1

    We are in the dawn of pc gaming

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci

      You think so?

    • @fffhunter7765
      @fffhunter7765 Před 5 měsíci

      shitty bugged boring games all the time nothing is fun anymore @@thatguybis1997

  • @389293912
    @389293912 Před 3 měsíci

    I went back to my favorite games and meh, they are very hard on the eyes.

  • @lloydirving6209
    @lloydirving6209 Před 6 měsíci +2

    4:44 who

  • @baki484
    @baki484 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I always enjoy the games I purchase since I don't buy as many arkham Asylum and city are games I still play more than 10 years later

  • @sergeypanchin1542
    @sergeypanchin1542 Před 6 měsíci +3

    don't tell him about official guides that were sold along with the game back in 90s-00s haha

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lol yeah I should’ve at least mentioned that, but those weren’t as easily accessible as the internet is now.

    • @MrSITH-qj6zp
      @MrSITH-qj6zp Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah, now you just go to CZcams. Lol

  • @kukukachu
    @kukukachu Před 6 měsíci +2

    hopefully, you talk about problem with meta.
    No, you didn't. You were close, but no.
    Also the reason we continue to consume content is because we are trying to avoid something.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +3

      As in the constant need to build towards the best gear and stuff like that?

    • @kukukachu
      @kukukachu Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes!@@thatguybis1997
      That culture is what I believe has really ruined gaming, and it's because humans are a detriment to themselves.

  • @rafehNot
    @rafehNot Před 4 měsíci

    @4:40 takken maybe ? mainly old ones like 3 or tag

  • @Andeijogando
    @Andeijogando Před 2 měsíci

    It's "ARPANET"

  • @mikkobarros8436
    @mikkobarros8436 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Yeah, it's you. :P

  • @mahendrap1960
    @mahendrap1960 Před 4 měsíci

    How to enjoy video games, just don't know about anything even name of the game
    That's how I have enjoyed Bayonetta game, because I had that game for while I started to playing that game i really enjoy that game, same goes to SMT persona 4 not golden because at that time it wasn't ported on pc so i played PlayStation 2 version on emu when I finished that game after amagi sagiri boss i thought the game was ended then i look into online found out there is extra dungeon I have to play to unlock true ending i played that it was satisfy, last game i have played Sea of stars I bought that blindly without looking at trailer or anything when i start to playing that game i start to enjoy it after i finished the game normal ending I was unsatisfied with normal ending I thought it was waste of time then i look at online found there is another ending i have to lock by collecting items I took guide from online to unlock secret path then unlock secret ending it wad satisfying experience with true ending.
    So yeah, Best way to enjoy the game just don't look at online, but if the game is very good not mediocre like starfield which have promised many but never delivered it

  • @Johan-rm6ec
    @Johan-rm6ec Před 4 měsíci

    Quoting Charles Spurgeon, 2 thumbs up ;P He is one of the most famous Christian preachers of all time.

  • @swootproonce634
    @swootproonce634 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Games were harder before, but not in a fun way. And idk y u acting like people didn’t use guides, they just weren’t free. I do miss local multiplayer tho

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Sure, people used guides but they definitely weren’t as accessible as what you can find on the internet these days.
      Local multiplayer, the good ole days.

    • @hinglemccringleberry1255
      @hinglemccringleberry1255 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Speak for yourself. I loved the satisfaction for beating a game back in the day

    • @RomeoTheBeast11
      @RomeoTheBeast11 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Agreed - a lot of those difficult games start to ruin the fun after awhile. That’s why as a kid I leaned heavy into sports games, racing and fighting games since those were more straightforward (plus multiplayer).

    • @Rainbowhawk1993
      @Rainbowhawk1993 Před 6 měsíci

      I can relate:
      I played Golden Sun on the GBA but got stuck at the tree level and never realized I needed to bring the water from the lighthouse to the tree.

    • @burakozdemir1756
      @burakozdemir1756 Před 2 měsíci

      @@thatguybis1997boss I was using CZcams walk through videos for splinter cell pandora tomorrow back in the dial-up days

  • @OG_Agrivar
    @OG_Agrivar Před měsícem

    ARPANET, not APRANET.🙄

  • @shadowbanned4606
    @shadowbanned4606 Před 4 měsíci

    18:32 spyware.

  • @Gamingfunnymemes786
    @Gamingfunnymemes786 Před měsícem

    🙏👍

  • @KyleAbdullaJameel-gj4wj
    @KyleAbdullaJameel-gj4wj Před 6 měsíci +1

    first

  • @blokin5039
    @blokin5039 Před 5 měsíci

    This channel is glorifying the old days a bit to much and most of your audience doesn't know what it was like anyway. I've been gaming since 1988 and back then games were generally more about achievement and a bit less about exploration. The reason I played these games over and over had to do with the fact I beat them within an hour max. I definately (re)played the heck out of Sonic and Mario but O conclude more modern games like Morrowind and The Last Of Us had a more profound impact on me as a gamer.

    • @thatguybis1997
      @thatguybis1997  Před 5 měsíci

      Most of the people that watch these videos are around your age, actually.