2016 / 2017 Nissan Titan XD Review and Road Test With Towing | In 4K UHD!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Nissan's latest Titan now comes in two forms. The regular Titan which is a 1/2 ton truck and new diesel Titan XD which should be thought of as a 5/8ths ton truck. This is the diesel tow vehicle that drives like a 3/4 ton but is priced like a top-end 1/2 ton.
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Great review! The XD is a really misunderstood truck; it’s almost unfair in a way to compare it with both a 1500 & 2500. Sure; there are gas 1/2 tons that will out accelerate and tow similar amounts, but the XD weighs nearly a ton more, and will offer a more stable experience at or near it’s capacity. If compared to a 2500, it’s got similar capabilities of big 3 diesels from 10 years ago. It’s an adequately powered truck that won’t match the power of a bigger diesel, but will ride smoother and provide a better experience when worked hard compared to a 1/2t.
Spot on.
I am six years late! But awesome job Alex.
2017 gas XD sv 2x4 crew cab owner here. Absolutely love it. I get 20 - 21 mpg on the highway to and from work at 65 mph with a few aggressive passes around big rigs both ways. If I’m running late and drive over 80 mph, then I see 15 mpg, which seems to be the standard mpg on streets no matter how passively you drive (I t’s a big truck). The gas engine has a lot of power. There’s no doubt it can get up to speed when needed, but I do find myself using the manual shifter occasionally to guarantee necessary thrust because the transmission seems to always want to reach 7th gear - even at only 40 mph.
Great review. Brand loyalty is for fools. Buy what you like. I drove one of these the other day, in the Pro4x model and was impressed. I too found the acceleration to be a bit of a drag but overall, it was a solid truck and if in the market picking between a ford with the ecoboost, the chev with the 6.2 or the ecodiesel, i'd prob pick this, cummins, great transmission and similar fuel economy to the larger v8's.
I would love it because its different im kinda loyal to Nissan because i have a 1996 Nissan hardbody amd its awesome
Ya put 12000lbs on a f150 or Silverado and you'll thrown around like a rag doll because they weigh 4000lbs ..youll have full control of it with the xd..its pushing 7500lbs
Elliott Feaster Uh huh...
My Silverado 1500 weighs 6300 pounds with just me and a full tank of gas. Max rross weight is 7200 pounds.
@@AlaskaErik And?
I love this truck. Unlike a 3/4 ton, it rides quite nicely and unlike the 1/2 tons, it has massive brakes. I think if you added some stiffer springs in the suspension it's a 3/4 to full one ton. I think it uses the one tone NV chassis. I could see an upgrade to the center stack...
@@nilsjohansson9739 A true HD truck without 8-lug floating axles?
I love the this truck is great if you regularly tow 10k. If you regularly tow 10k a 3/4 ton is where it's at! I want to see a review of the XD vs Ram 2500.
Great video! One of the better comparisons I've seen. But, what means the most is, build quality. I've heard horror stories about Chevy and Dodge trucks down the road. Reliability is probably the most important factor with me, especially considering what these trucks cost.
This isn't even a Japanese truck, it was designed and is built in the US, with an American engine
By a Japanese company. When I see Nissan trading on the Nasdaq, I'll say it's American.
it's still a Japanese truck, they make about 70% of the money in Japan. it's the same way with Toyota. the American economy only makes about 30% of profit. they have to make about 70% of profit, because there money has less value than American currency. they build there trucks designed for American roads. GM and Ford use alot of foreign parts, but we make about 70% in profit, because of the badge name but they still make about 30% because of foreign parts.
The engine is VK56. It has been used by Nissan Patrol in GCC since 2011. It is pure Japanese.
I have bee checking out use Ram 2500 trucks. I like the build quality. They really hold their value.
I have just test driven a Titan platinum reserve now 4vyears old with 48,000 miles. $30,000. I was impressed with the solid ride and torque. This review really helped me decide. I can now go out and buy my 9,000lb travel trailer.
Very comprehensive review (for once). It bothers me that you have a problem with the acceleration and fuel mileage. The curb weight and hp rating simply needs to be fed with fuel. A truck is a workhorse and should not be confused with a compact car. A 2000 lb payload puts this truck above and beyond.
It actually comes with a 6’7” bed.
Nice 👍 I like the way you review the vehicle 🚗
I'll buy this beast or 1794 tundra instead of choosing f-series,ram1500,silverado,...
I agree 100%. Those are my two choices. I have more faith in them over the others
Good review & great Nissan.
Great review, like the inserts. Got all the information I needed to know about this truck, thanks for helping me in my research for a pickup. In this case the Titan didn't make the cut. I applaud Nissan for the effort and trying something different but I think a regular 1/2 ton pickup will work better for me.
Nice review Alex, All facts, non bias . keep up the good work!
+Alex on Autos Why did you not mention that the truck will be eventually offered in single and king cab configurations? Nissan is slowly releasing the other configurations and the half ton Titan and it's single and king cab configurations over time. This is the first time that they will offer such a large array of configurations so they are taking their time to make sure it is done right.
Greetings from mexico..... also i would like to see a review of the new abarth 500.... keep up the great job
eco diesel is 80- 100,000 mile motor , then major issues develop
Elliot Feaster The Eco Diesel is not made by Cummins. It is an Americanized VM Motori engine.
This is a nice looking rig ?
Also how do these truck do in the very cold states during winter?
nice truck review
the difference is if you buy a ram eco diesel .... the reliability is garbage... there notorious for reliability issues
You are confusing Payload with "how much you can put in the bed". Payload= Bed cargo + passengers(and cabin cargo) + hitch weight(when towing).
What a beast , don t havé thïs kind of véhicule in France...
large pickups are rare in Europe
What is the deal with the column mounted shifter? We are not in the last century, there is not mechanical link to the transmission anymore is there?
Daniel Helc no need for it to use center stack space
It seems like a solid truck, but I'm not sure Nissan has come up with a formula here that is particularly compelling. Other than price it seems you would be better off with a 3/4 ton offering from the competition. The dealers don't seem to be particularly sold on it either as you rarely see more than a couple of them on the lot even though it has been in production long enough that numbers should be quite a bit higher than that.
If I'm towing in the 10k to 12k range, I'm just going to go with a 3/4 ton. I do not like towing at the upper limits of my tow capacity, especially when the manufacturers are more interested in bragging rights than a safe and comfortable tow experience.
Also gas version of Titan XD too..2018.
And they releasing a normal half ton too
Alex, can you tell us the actual payload for this truck that on the payload sticker? I have a feeling it much lower then the 2000 pound marketing claims made by Nissan.
Isn't this competing with a 2500? Is there any doubt?
@@arthurs7882 Yes, lots.
It looks like it requires a lot of steering input, long ratios?
I call it right in middle of the 1500 and 2500.. call it 2000. So be in between 150 250 make it 200 lol 🤷♂️ don't know if that makes sense but sounds good
Could you do a review for hyundai veloster turbo?
The problem Nissan has is that you can buy a Ram 3/4 ton 6.7 Cummins for same price and the Ram is a much better riding truck, has larger nav screen, has nice LED lights, awesome gauge cluster and so on. Also the Ram gets better mileage and has a better resale value. So in saying that, a 5/8's truck is not needed.
You must not have watched the video as he said the same equipment on a dodge was $7000 more.
Here in west Michigan when I bought my xd it was $8300 more for the dodge.
My trailer when loaded is 8200 lbs so no need to send extra money on something that pulls 17000 lbs.
Also the $ 7000 we saved buys 2333 gal of fuel at $ 3 a gal.
2333 gals times 15 mpg is 35000 mile worth of fuel. Thats 3+ years of driving for us.
Greg in Michigan
Do Mercedes C450 AMG, please.
Alex has done a very, very diplomatic job in saying this Titan is neither here nor there. The fuel mileage is deplorable for a Diesel with a 10 mpg penalty over the Ram Diesel without a commensurate increase in power or capability. The mileage is not much better than a gas V8 with similar power. This is a half-baked effort from Nissan. The new Ford F-150 Diesel will put the final nail in Nissan's full size pickup truck coffin. As regards the Aisin transmission, Aisin is effectively a branch of the Toyota empire . With a Cummins engine and a Toyota transmission Nissan's inadequacy in pickup expertise is painfully obvious. Finally, any three ton pickup that can't carry a full sheet of plywood is a disgrace. PS the Jag on the trailer was a hilarious inside joke.
Good points. Keep in mind too that you can buy a fuckload of gasoline for the $4000 price premium of the diesel over a Hemi or a SBC or a Coyote. Im too lazy to do the payback math, but its in the years Im sure. Not to mention the repair costs which are easily double on the diesel. And the fact that for a low volume oddball like this Cummins, you will probably be forced to go to the dealer for service. Whereas any corner shop can work on the gas engine.
I'm glad Dodge or Ram decided not to pursue this engine after their bankruptcy, I was originally slated for the Ram 1500. Besides that I have looked at the Titan and I find it a very nice truck with lots of options but I think a lot of the problems lie with it is that it's history isn't known which will scare some people away from buying otherwise a nice truck.
Diesel mpg's get better once the engine gets broken in.
The design has been growing in me,but I don't see any reason to get this over a Ford F-150,Silverado,or ram
+Mario Master 02 diesel & japanese reliability I assume.
+Torrey B it cost more and can't tow more than a 6.2 silverado
Lane Hart Not sure what you are replying to, but you can not necessarily say "it costs more", as there are many different grades. A base Titan is much more of a value than a base Silverado in terms of what you get. And the Titan XD CAN tow more than a Silverado 1500 with the 6.2.
The Cummins i rather over a 6.2l
ya me neither, but there will be people that will buy it.
There just isn't a need for a truck that weighs 60+% of what it tows. Tired of people thinking that's what you need to tow comfortably. Only thing good about this truck is the cummins. If I need more than a half ton I'll go 3/4. Good try though Nissan. And btw the half ton transmissions are plenty stout for their purpose.
Yes man
Appreciate if you mention the screen size of the center display unit. Don't want to go to separate video just to know the size.
when will tesla or the big three stop screwing around and offer a ev truck? huge battery capacity under the cab and bed...super handling due to low center of gravity
+MrMike25896 Tiny tiny numbers of people buy electrics/hybrids. Of those, well over half buy Priuses. So of this tiny tiny sliver of a tiny tiny market, maybe 300 people a year total want an electric pickup truck. The market for pink minivans with leopard upholstery is prbably larger than that.
+Kip Amore wrong ...people that drive trucks often use them for towing. .which electric motors produce from the first turn of the motor. a large bank of batteries could be placed under the truck bed for long range......
+weirdshibainu The real trouble is range, especially when towing. A battery the size of the Model S (1,400 lbs) would not get you very far in a truck that was capable of towing 10,000 lbs well. Based on relative efficiency you'd be looking at well under 100 miles of range.
+weirdshibainu The fact that a pickup truck has a flat bed doesnt really help in any useful way. The teslas battery IS the floorpan of the car. And you can make the battery any shape you want, more or less. Now that I think about it, a pickup is at a disadvantage because the beds are generally high up off the road, whereas a car can have a lower CG.
+MrMike25896 The costs involved would be a killer. Adding $20,000-$40,000 on top of an expensive pickup truck for 100 miles of range or less when towing or hauling would be a tough sell. Look how poorly hybrid trucks sold.
its funny that they claim to be between a 1500 and a 2500 because the F150 can out tow and out haul this truck...obviously this will get better mpg while doing that. Even so, im not sure about the 'value' for this truck
+LoneSpartan The F-150 is rated for about the same towing and higher payload capacities, but when it comes to "out towing" that's not as cut and dry. The F-150 gets pushed around a great deal more than the Titan XD when you tow more than 7,000 pounds and the Cummins diesel provides more torque, a stronger transmission and more importantly better cooling than the 3.5L twin-turbo V6 in the Ford. Now personally I'd be just fine with my 5,000-7,500 pound towing needs in a F-150 with the 2.7L TT V6 but that doesn't mean it is a superior tow vehicle to the Titan. The Titan has been designed in this regard like the F-250-/2500 trucks with heavier duty components, higher cooling abilities, etc.
+Alex on Autos No doubt it will be better at towing those higher weights, but it just doesn't seem like its enough to justify a vehicle like this. I was disappointed in this XDs ratings (and MPG) I'm hoping that the Gas V8 doesn't disappoint. Great video as usual btw!
+LoneSpartan I think the main disappointment people feel is that Nissan made a "baby 3/4 ton" truck, not a small diesel 1/2 ton truck. If I were shopping in this segment, I'd buy the RAM 1500 diesel or the rumoured F-150 with teh 3.2L inline 5 diesel out of the transit van.
+Alex on Autos Supposedly the new frontier may have a diesel in it as well, if they actually release it in the next 10 years lol. I'm still waiting on the official numbers/tests of the new ridgeline. I'm looking for a new truck and like to keep all the possible options on the table.
+Alex on Autos The Ford F-150 Diesel will probably use the V6 Diesel currently used by Range Rover.
Alex, does the Titan also compete with the Honda Ridgeline?
+Matthew's Car Corner Well the Ridgeline is dead for the moment, teh last model year was 2014 and although there are rumours about a replacement we don't know anything yet. Even if it did come out teh Ridgeline has always been a truck that really fit between the compact and full-size segment, so think 1/2 ton light rather than the Titan XD which is over three tons heavy and more of a 3/4 ton truck.
+Alex on Autos The 2017 Ridgeline will definitely be produced. There is a site dedicated to the truck and Honda has even released some ads for the vehicle.
Lol the titan is a big boy and the Ridgeline is a baby.
+Matthew's Car Corner Nope, The Ridgeline is a 1/4ton truck,more suited to compete with a base model Tacoma, Colorado/canyon or nissan frontier.
Can't even compare the two...
Why no exhaust brake?
+Peter Kim It has one. It auto-engages.
+Alex on Autos Thanks as always for a great review. You're the first one I've seen to confirm that it did have a real exhaust brake. If you're towing up to the XD's abilities, you'll want one just like the big 3
why would you need a brake
This looked more like Ram and F150 video
Those wheels are way too small for the truck. Too out of proportion lol
They should’ve made this Truck at least 7 lugs not 6 lugs that was one of their big mistakes.
I am a Nissan fan. But seriously if Toyota and Nissan want to break in then just do it. Make a half 3/4 and 1 ton. Don't make it difficult and things like brakes and suspension also enter into it. So not interested in doing the comparison.
The new Titan was designed and is built in America
have you seen the brakes on a tundra? you should take a look...
More overgrown behemoths.
There’s a gas version of this truck now
No need to update this video! The 2019 Titan XD has the same stone age technology the 2016 has. The only thing they've added is Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for 2019.
'Tow-job'....lol
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So this is the worst of all worlds
No better fuel economy than any other truck, and much worse than Ram's EcoDiesel. Slower than any other half-ton truck. Doesn't really tow no haul more than most half tons either. Tries to be the jack of all trades, but is master of none
I'm impressed that a guy with nissan titan warrior as a handle would have a negative take on this truck. I salute your honesty.
+Kip Amore I salute your salute.
+Nissan TitanWarrior - Strangely I read your comment as "tries to be the jackoff of all trades" and thought you were spot on...then my eyes focused properly....;-)
Didn't watch the video did you?
Agonizingly long and drawn out
Its a shame! These new trucks are sooo expensive and are built like shit! All of them.
How many have u owned?
Why the hell would you buy a truck? With that fuel economy and the ride quality, if you aren't consistently towing large amounts of weight you are WASTING money
Sometimes people just buy what they like.
Not a fan. Interior sucks
+Steeve McCloud Why?
It needs a serious update to compete with the newest Ram 1500s
That steering ratio is absolutely ridiculous and
very sloppy
Exactly my sentiment!
looks like a Ford
This thing is over the top fucking huge. It's pointless.
I'm prepared to be harsh. What the hell is Nissan thinking, other than "it will cost more to idle the plant than it will to put out this half-asses effort". This truck seems to have nothing going for it. It looks like an F150....from 6 years ago. It brings nothing class leading to the table. It'd be a killer tow rig...if it was Taco sized. It'd be a killer off roader...if it weighed 2000 lbs less.
In a word: cynical. Its a cynical effort to cash in on the few truck buyers who hate American brands.
Not only are these trucks ugly, but they're practically useless. Just get an 09-14 F150, looks better and close to the same capability.
there not useless and ugly, your ugly and looks are subjective.
What're you, 7?
I can’t say I would ever get an F150. Ford inflates their figures and everyone’s racist neighbor has one. I’d rather have something that is different than every other white guy on the road. The F150 has a bunch of fancy electronics and is more of a toy truck than a real truck.
Didn't watch the video did you?
Basically a 3/4 ton truck from 10 years ago but with worse MPG and almost double the price. Pointless truck.
Isn't this competing with a 2500? Is there any doubt?
no, at the moment this isn't competing with anything
what about the ram eco diesel?
Outdated truck from day one. Nothing special.