5.0L Cummins: Everything You Need to Know
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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2022
- You probably know about the 5.9L Cummins and the 6.7L Cummins engines, but there is another Cummins engines that you'll find in pickup trucks, and that's the 5.0L Cummins used in the Nissan Titan XD. While it might not be as popular as the bigger Cummins engines found in Ram trucks, it's still a pretty solid engine with some cool innovations that give it great power output and low emissions output.
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Can you do one on the ford f150 powerstroke engine kind of like this or maybe a series on halfton diesel options and their development.
have you done a vid on the toyota 4.5tdi. ausie. 75 series ute. heres one for you, 4.2tdi, factory, fitted to silverado,s & s/duty,s. in brazil. i own a s/duty one in aus. with a bigger, turbo. std is a t04 mitsubishi, i fitted a t06. now has 700nm, 230 hp.. not much but good for aus, 12.5 lt 100. in brazil,they big turbo,& twin turbo them, scary fast..watch vids of them, f1000 turbo or silverado mwm sprint. or just mwm sprint. owned by IH, for 5 yrs. 4 & 6 cyl versions. then common rail, .5lt would sell like hot cakes in aus. bit dubius about the pump though. an injector for the 4.5tdi toyota, is 1k,,each....starter in valley. as per dirtymax..
5.9 cummins with the 6spd auto all day
Always
That weight to power ratio is actually horrendous the old ass OM606 on Mercedes puts out 600 horsepower with stock internals and can be fitted with a mechanical pump from the older OM617.
It's less than 500lb wet.
Thank you all out there who have bought Titans and Titan XDs. I work at the Nissan plant. Your purchases put food on my table. (We also make Altimas and Frontiers!)
Which one is the most reliable?
You know how Toyota is super proud of the saying " if it ain't broke, why fix it " well Nissan is exactly the same. People just overlook them for some reason
Jatco transmissions lawsuit on them so I'm wondering when mines gonna break they say lifetime transmission I'm gonna suck it out at 30K and put amsoil transmission fluid in just same, read the reman trans are heavier duty so if I waS lied to and there isn't a lifetime drivetrain I'll just find aftermarket
@hectorzapata154 the issue is that they have to get people to switch from the main 3 to a nissan or a new car brand its hard to get people to switch to something new when all they had was chevy that's y the 2024 is the last model year for the titan
Guess you'll be making EVs from now on.
I figured I would chime in on this truck, I would also think its worth noting I`m a professional truck driver of 30 + years. I have a 2019 XD with 71,500 miles. I live rural so I average 20mpg in summer and 17-18 in the North Idaho winters. I do run a aftermarket fuel additive like Standayne or Diesel 911 for a lubrication of the fuel and a bit of extra fuel economy.
I use Valvoline Premium Blue for oil with regular service.
The truck is comfy, roomy, quiet, and for a diesel truck drives really nice. Very nice to hop into after a 10 hr day driving a class A truck. I always see people bitch about this truck
not having enough torque, and being less capable then the other big 3 trucks. The truck is a heavy half meant to be between a half ton and 3/4 ton.
If your gonna be pulling a skid steer on regular basis your gonna get a 3/4 ton truck or better.
If gonna pull an RV or boat for summer fun the specs on this truck are perfect . My example of towing for XD is I have a 32ft travel trailer , loaded for bear with the family. As a test I decided
to see what this truck could do going up 4th of July Pass in Idaho. From a dead stop, I got to 70 mph and still pulling halfway up the grade and still easily pulling before I backed out it.
More then capable for my needs.
Now the issues I`ve had. I would like to mention that every diesel I have ever driven has odd personality quirks that very from truck to truck.
I`ve had two separate issues with the injector/fuel rail. First one had the fuel line vibrate off the injector(covered under Nissan warranty) that was Spring 22` Then Spring 23` had an injector go
bad and not covered under Nissan warranty as its part of the emissions which Nissan only covers for 50k miles. Thankfully not trusting modern diesel def system I bought an extend warranty that
covered the issue. I just dropped it off at the dealer yesterday as I have a catalytic going out , and Im guessing a transmission sensor going out(the temp gauge is missing the hash lines to measure temp) and Im getting low tire, ABS and traction control light stuck on in the cool morning and goes off in afternoon summer heat.
(edit) I forgot to add for the bad injector I had a 30 day wait for the parts and service.
So take this info as you will. I think the truck is nice, but I would strongly recommend anyone getting a good aftermarket warranty and stay up on servicing your truck or any diesel that you choose.
I worked on the design team at the Cummins Small Engine Development Center (SEDC) in the early 80s. The thing to keep in mind is the 4 and 6 cyc engines were a joint venture between Cummins and Case Tractor. They split the production 50/50 out of the North Carolina engine plant - and - Case insisted on a heavy duty block and ease of repair-ability. Cummins wanted a lighter weight design for automotive applications. Once Cummins was able to create design outside the constraints of “make it work for tractors too” - the weight and optimization for auto was possible. Btw - noise was always a key consideration- for example- when you see the pulleys on the front of the engines with holes in them that’s not for weight savings - it’s to make them less like a speaker and more quiet. And composite and plastic valve covers were in the earliest designs. Good review thanks for creating the video.
I didn’t know they worked together with case. Interesting. Which motors specifically were a joint venture?
@@TheOmw2000 probably 4bt and 6bt
@@Sam-ls6sl I’m not familiar with case equipment, did they use those engines often in that era?
The inline 6 diesel is the king. Cummins B series, old Navistar DT466 and the Caterpillar 6's. I'll never own a V8 diesel and I have driven all of them plenty. I used to drive Ford & GM wreckers and they were good...but the inline 6's were better. Massive torque down low in the revs, smooth and also easier to work on.
Yup, although I made more power on my 6.7 powerstroke, the turbo started going out, so I’ sold it and bought a 96 Cummins 4x4 5 spd, soon to be 6spd. Perfect truck everything that can break costs less than 4k to replace(6.7 turbo) and I can do it in under a week. If the fuel system on the 6.7 power were to go bad, that’s 10k out of pocket, I’d only get another powerstroke if it’s brand new and under warranty/lease. Which many people do, everyone I know that drives a new 6.7 has it either leased or under an extended warranty. The one I had I bought cash and had to fix everything myself, of which issues were plenty.
@@thesunflowchannel1995 Notice every big rig is a straight 6. That certainly says something.
DEf pump failures sometimes comes from the juice coming through the pins.
I’d buy a tacoma 💀
Your absolutely correct and with that being said there should be a blockage from people uploading B.S videos like this 1
The 5.0L Cummins diesel always intrigued me. It’s too bad it seems to have been doomed for failure. I’ve owned two Jeep Grand Cherokees with the Mercedes Benz V6 3.0L OM642 common rail diesel engines. It was a fantastic engine. Pre-DEF, made great power for the size, and after an ECU tune made even more power and was very efficient. It also help do away with the pesky swirl valve and EGR issues.
Great video. I have a 2017 XD. It was a slug, added foss filtration system/pump and did DPF delete. Went from 12 mpg to 19 mpg and it’s a beast of a truck now.
Finally someone explains EGR correctly. I’m so tired of hearing people say it’s for burning fuel in the exhaust.
Egr recirculates exhaust gasses to reduce cylinder temperatures, reducing NOx emissions.
Who cares. It doesn't need to be there.
@@duckwacker8720 more chemicals coming out with that Def bull shit
I have a 2017 Nissan Titan XD with the Cummins 5.0 liter turbo-diesel. It is a great package for quiet, efficient towing. It is not a race engine but provides plenty of power and torque to pull my fifth-wheel. Five years... no problems. The XD still exists as of 2022, but utilizes the same 5.6 liter gas engine as the regular Titan.
What fuel mileage like?
@@MrTravis777 I'm super heavy, with the lift, airbags and a fifth wheel. With a tailwind, I get about 8mpg. It isn't about efficiency. It is about stability, torque and comfort.
@@MrTravis777 Yeah. There’s a joke that us Titan owners go by yards-per-gallon.
Wow, my 5.9 got 25 mpg loaded but not pulling at 75 mph, in a quad cab four wheel 13 pulling my 5th wheel. But at this price for diesel, dang. It’s not quite and it a truck, but I can add boost and get even more better power. Of coarse I’m pre additive so I will never need a limp mood ( that’s when the driver screams at his truck, wtf)
It's gotten a bad rep. Broken crankshafts, and underpowered.
So glad you did this engine. Great content as always!
I talked to a guy at a gas station one day that had a Titans with the Cummins. I thought it was very quiet and smooth sounding and the guy said he’d had it for several years and loved it and had no real problems with it. I like them and if I could afford one I would seriously think about getting one. You sure don’t see many on the road though.
Thank You for the informative video. I answered a lot of my questions about the Cummins 5.0. Have A Great Day! 👍🏼
I learned something! Thanks for the upload, I was curious on the 5.0L and this gave me everything I wanted.
I had a 2016 Nissan XD with this engine. I didn't have any major complaints with it. It was very quiet for a diesel and had good power and torque for a smaller engine. I towed my 27' holiday trailer with it. And it pulled it quite fine--a bit better than my previous Titan with the 5.6l gas engine. However I was disappointed that it didn't get any better mileage pulling the trailer than what I had with my gas engine. So for the little bit of extra torque and less HP than a gas engine, it never really blew me away. I like the idea of the 5/8th ton truck, but it is interesting that the XD never really took off. I saw at one point that Nissan was selling XDs in one month what Ford sold F150s in one day. So I guess the concept (and price) just never caught on. I watched the development of this project with great interest and could hardly wait til I got my hands on the new Titans--and now Nissan has totally stopped building full size pickups. Strange times.
That sales figured really doesn't seem that bad. If memory serves me, the Honda Ridgeline saw much worse sales numbers in 2016, 2017, & 2018. It took four years of the second gen truck before Honda came anywhere near the sales they were expecting.
I know that's a bit of an odd comparison, but both trucks do compete with the F-150. Just for much different buyers.
Got a 2019 xd pro 4x diesel in dark green. I’ve never seen another green one in person. Love the way it tows compared to a 1/2 ton. The fuel mileage is 1/2 ton gas range when it’s empty but put a load on it and that is where it shines. Its obvious that it needs another gear to get better empty fuel mileage on the freeway. I wished they would have kept the diesel and continued to refine the package. They had a great idea and I love mine.
You know everyone can read your comment right? Even guys that also have an xd cummins? I have owned mine for 3 years and will tell anyone, including you, they do not get 1/2 ton fuel mileage. These trucks are notorious for terrible mileage when compared to literally any other 1/2 ton trucks including the 5.6 titans, I have both right now. The best I have ever gotten from the cummins on a full tank of fuel is 15.4 mpg. The 5.6 is the next worst fuel economy of all the 1/2 tons, mine will only get 17 if I absolutely baby it with only interstate miles. These are not trucks to own if fuel prices are a problem, my 2021 chevy 2500 gasser company truck gets 20 mpg and it's an actual 3/4 ton. Don't get me wrong though, I chose the nissans, I've had 4 titans a d loved them all, my xd is the favorite but it's not because it's cheap to own
@@toWergOd81 lmao couldn't said it better my 17 nissan xd cummins only gives me lousy 13mpg lol but has good towing and love how it drives
@@toWergOd81I have both engines stock no lift and my 5.6 gets like 11mpg and the 5.0 can get 20mph on highway. In California diesel can be over a dollar more per gallon though.
ive head pretty good things about this engine . but i dont see many around cuz people hate on them.. awesome video man.
Excellent video! New Titan XD owner here. It’s already weight reduced but I’m doing as much research as I can
I owned a titan xd Cummins owned it for 3 years put almost 100k miles on it with 0 issues. The truck was a beast! My issues was with Nissan. No matter the dealership they always screwed something up. They had no clue how to work on the Cummins.
They also have no clue how to do alignments either! Kraft Nissan cost me new front tires, over 2" of toe-in just to keep it from pulling to the right will ruin tires.
@@robertbass5788 yup had that problem also
Similar experience here, 100k 5 yrs zero issues. The truck is restricted too much through electronics, it feels like the pedal has a 5 sec delay before it even considers adding fuel. I hear the tuners help this but I've been waiting on my warranty to end before I added one.
If you never had issues then why is it at a mechanic?
Personally for me, it usually normal maintenance. The dealer always has to find their diesel tech or bring him from a sister dealership. The only issue I've run across is the Sensor in the DEF tank is sensitive, if I let the truck run with a 1/2 full tank too long the sensor seems to get residue on it and will try to put the truck into limp mode. Usually a quick fill up from a DEF pump vs using the jugs fixes the issue and the error will go away within a day.
I have a Titan XD 2017, almost 2 years now, it is full of power, good millage in highway, loaded 2,800 pounds of bricks a year ago with no issues ; pulling 27 ft. RV once as a toy. No issues so far, maintanance at dealership pretty expensive, but it is diesel. I believe it would fit better as “work horse “ than home owner’s vehicle.
Thanks for this I am looking at one tomorrow. I am curious how is it holding up now?
Those 5 L Cummins are known for breaking crankshafts. I saw a mechanic work on a Nissan Titian with spun bearings and main caps that had massive slop in them. The journals were burnt from the bearings spinning. The engine had a horrible rattling noise but no weird exhaust smoke. At $23,000 for a new engine, the shop is gonna try to get a good used block.
Great video. Thanks for explaining the history behind the motor.
I have a 16 XD with 120k miles. it is tuned and deleted(def system failed).
I regularly pull a goose neck with equipment as large as a D3 I have 0 problems with it since the delete. it pulls almost as good as my 2500 dodge did, and it rides a hell of alot better.
Thats impressive. I didnt know they would hold up to that weight truck and engine
All diesels run better deleted. The emissions are severely problematic .
Wait you are pulling a D3 dozer with a XD? Where’s the video? Because a lot of people would like to see that.
I'm skeptical you're pulling 21k PLUS the trailer weight of a gooseneck that's at least 7k empty, with an XD. Especially considering the pin weight alone would be 2800 - 4000 lb, which is way over payload capacity and GCWR for that truck. GAWR is only 4900, so you're over the axle limits, too, considering the curb weight of an empty vehicle. If you tell me you're pulling 17k on a gooseneck and it feels great, I believe you, but 28k+... man, you need to make sure you've got good life insurance and liability, because that's dangerous af. Even a 3/4 ton truck is ill-equipped to pull a 28k gooseneck. That's a job for a 1-ton DRW diesel.
The 2500 is only available with the low output Cummins, 30% less power than the HO.
Good to see someone talking about an engine that I spent 5 years developing at Cummins.
What do you think the life expectancy is?
@@AnthonysBBQ it should live a long time as long as it's properly maintained and not modified. The head gaskets are the weak points and they are at their limit with stock boost levels.
What did you do for Cummins? I'd love to hear more!
@@Dustrunnersauto I started in that program building Alpha Development engines, then ran Development, durability, and emissions tests on dynos. All in the CEP building in Columbus. And finally was in charge of all prototype engine builds and all of their BOMs.
I left and returned home (Michigan) before it hit production for the Titan
@@jtkstudios4168 Any recommendations on dead pedal or getting deleted?
Really good video with good info to have in mind for our preferences
I never worked on the V8. My favorite for a non com vehicle will always be the 275hp ISB5.9 VP44. The only problems that engine had was the lift pump and it needed a headgasket at least once before you wore it out. Dodge used it but had a one port ecm on it and the calibrations were 100% non adjustable. IE you could not adjust rear end ratios etc. You had to know
some one at chrysler(at the time) who would look up the calibration you needed so the speedo / auto trans worked correctly.
I had the 5.9 Cummins and the Ram Ecodiesel and now the XD 5.0 Cummins and I feel it is so much more smoother running than any of the other two and just a much better all around truck, I wish they didn’t discontinue it because I would have bought another one for sure. Thanks
They discontinued it because it was awful
@@seanweston2907 I’m pretty sure it was discontinued due to poor sales not the Cummins engine that is used in hundreds of thousands vehicles like school buses across the US I will say the Def system is terrible, Thanks
@@philliproberts3151 it's a Cummins but no real relation to other Cummins engines other than name, it definitely had more potential than what is commonly attributed but that comes at a cost
@@robs1052 what cost?
@@philliproberts3151 Nissan was by far the biggest customer for the 5.0. Hundreds of thousands in busses? Didn’t happen. When Nissan dropped it, Cummins shut production down. Nissan was almost the only customer.
Had a Titan XD with the 5L heater. Good everyday light duty work truck. Had a few issues with it over the 2 years I had it from blown egr cooler, blew and axel seal twice, had several electrical issues, and the thing was a magnet for hit and runs. 3 in 18 months. Poor girl was totaled by a tree in a bad storm in my driveway. Have a 3500 ram with a 6.7 on order excited to see how much better it will be at work but also everyday driving.
Dodge? Really?
@@talisikid1618 my local ford and Chevy dealer and not the best and I already have a lot of Cummins parts so I figured why waste them.
@@TheLandscapeGiant that’s a good point. I noticed when test driving duramax and Cummins that the Cummins definitely rode pretty rough but it wasn’t too bad. In the end I settled with Dmax but I could see myself in a Cummins powered truck in the future
@@talisikid1618
Lol
All the three trucks are the same
Dodge Ram or wherever… has the better motor
Get over it
Thank you so much for the lecture. You are a master in teaching this subjects
Like all new trends and cool things out there I like sitting back and watching what issues come out before I dive in on buying. I’m sure this engine will do well, but I just want to see what comes from it’s debut.
Having worked at a Nissan dealership the info I was given is this, “Cummins and Nissan didn’t have a good partnership. No one knew who would take care of the warranties, no parts were available, and most of the techs weren’t trained or knew how to work on them.” Sounds like they had a bunch of warranties too. They were ordering entire engines for warranty, and actually had them in stock for a time because it was that bad.
Ya Cummins dropped the ball big time.
@@Drivethisnotthat or Nissan? That's like blaming Navistar for Ford 6.0/6.4's. These are custom made to order engines. Don't pray for rain then bitch when you don't have an umbrella
I almost pulled the trigger on a used one with low mileage. I stopped myself after I read all the major issues. Transmission apparently can have catastrophic failure. The emissions system had problems as well, and other issues, turbo problems. I learned my lesson after ford 6.0.
@@calebniederhofer6529 Yea I learned my lesson with any Ford back in the mid 80s. Why anyone would ever own one is far beyond me. I had a number of them from used to brand new. All where junk.
@@arlissyoung8899 I am a big Ford fan lol. Those issues were with international, who made the engine at the time. Yea, I actually drive a Ford EB myself.
Great video. The only thing I would add is the poor fuel economy. While the baby duromax and eco diesel ram are very capable of hitting high 20mpg marks are 5.0 titan falls disappointing short in the high teens. That was probably the biggest killer with it being a very expensive half ton truck that had all the problems and fuel economy of the big diesels but with less power and capacity.
I have a 2016 Titan XD that I bought new with this engine. I have about 79k miles and I’ve had the turbo actuator and high pressure turbo replaced (Nissan just upped the warranty on these parts to 10 yrs/150k miles). Otherwise it’s been a great engine. Love the truck and tows out 10k lb fifth wheel with ease.
Thank you 🙏🏽 this is the video I’ve been looking for for weeks
Cummins went back to CP3 for 2021, took out CP4.2.
I got to test drive both the 5.0 and the gasser 5.6 with my boat, up some fairly large hills. While the 5.0 pulled good, the 5.6 pulled just fine and had no DEF. I sadly no longer have a Nissan though. I think they are very underrated pick ups.
I think they are over rated in price
Get another titan
They drive terrible and the tech is years behind
until you hook up actual weight and the MPG sinks
@@tomchristian4304 well for one, the comment is about Nissans…but for 2, actual statistics would disagree with you. Ram trucks are some of the most reliable heavy duty trucks on the road, only slightly edged out by the Silverado HD. I’d also pose that a well equipped F250 is on par in price with other heavy duty trucks in its same class.
Great video. Thanks for the hard work
I’ve got a 17PR, bought it brand new. During our heat dome about 3 months ago my turbo started to go. Truck has 36,000 miles on it. Just got it back after two weeks in the shop. Turns out the actuator gets sooted up and seizes. Thankfully it was under warranty, which I noticed nobody mentioned how awesome it is. Otherwise I’d be looking at a huge bill!
Fresh turbo, time for dpf delete.
All that said, I LOVE MY TRUCK!
I have a 2018 xd with the 5.0L Cummins. I like this as a daily driver but it has enough power and capability for towing a 3yard dump trailer full of rock or my 21' boat with zero issues. I do wish they would have kept making this configuration truck, or sold this motor as a swap motor. Would be a great fit for older rigs, or a jeep conversion.
i mean it depends what you define as enough power.. people were still towing 3 yards of gravel in a trailer back when engines were struggling to put out 120hp, downshifts were more common and hill climbs didnt hold speed, they still got the the jobsite
i mean my 1996 ppump is still at stock power after 600k kms which is only 175HP and ive towed 19,000lbs with it through a worn out automatic trans without issue.. big hills on the highway were done at 80-90kph instead of 110-120 but transport trucks do that every day and no ones going around adding more power to their fleet trucks to do the hills at 110
@@AndrewBrowner your right. In days gone by we did more with less. But, by enough, I meant for the truck to perform the tasks I ask of it, and not hinder traffic. These are personal tasks. I am not engaged in commerce with this vehicle.
Bought my Titan xd new in 2016. I drive 1200 klms a week hyw. Just one issue with def system which a chip remedied. Currently I have 180,000 klm on it. Runs great
I love my 2019 Nissan Titan XD Pro 4X with the Cummins. Maybe I am fortunate, but my truck is a beast.
I love mine it's great, rides great, is very capable, fit and finish is great, and has plenty of ass when it needs it. I dnt regret my purchase at all. I've also sunk this truck in the mud 2-3 times a month since I bought it and it's been awesome. It's been an excellent purchase and I recommend it.
Been in the market for one and everyone always talks about the bad. These comments like yours make me want to pull the trigger on getting it
How miles does yours have
This engine was barely introduced to the Nissan when I was in tech school. I went to UTI and went through their Cummins program. I think it was the week before graduation that it came out. I was able to take the online courses for it and learn a little bit. I wish we had the chance to see them in person in class. They are very weird for a Cummins. Typically V-engines from Cummins are built in 16cyl or larger for locomotives or marine applications. Cummins also never uses glow plugs on ANYTHING so when they made it with glowplugs we were all shocked lol. I think Nissan went about making the truck wrong in a way. They made it too much in between a 1500 and a 2500 like it was beefier than a 1500 but it wasn’t as strong as a 2500 and the price reflected it in a strange way too. You could get a much cheaper gas engine or a slightly more expensive diesel that would be much larger and more powerful. I really hope that another company comes along (looking at you Toyota) and picks it up and slaps it in one of their trucks. We need all the diesels we can get in the US as we don’t have too many options!
I like The QSK95 4stroke Cummins in locomotives. Easy to start and clean and works like hell but you can never beat the sound of a 2 stroke V16.
I want to put one in a rock crawler
Won’t happen.
So how do cummins engines usually cold start? Richer fuel mixture? I'm no diesel expert so forgive the ignorance!
@@anotherrandomtexan25 grid heater
I have a 2019 XD pro 4X I tow a 30 foot travel trailer. and my wife and me absolutely love the truck, I think it’s the best truck I’ve ever owned.👍
The Bosch fuel pump in my dad’s brand new ram 3500 grenaded at around 3,400 miles while we were heading home on the interstate. Almost half a year later we finally got it back. Thankfully it was covered by the warranty.
I also owned one of these and it lives up to the heavy half ton when towing and it is quiet. Very few Nissan diesel certified technicians in my area to service engine, but fortunately no real issues so far. It does use a lot of DEF comparably to my Ford F350 (6.7L) and I have issues with the cab pulling in the soot diesel smell from the engine bay when environmental system is pulling in fresh air. I believe this partially due to the crappy seal under the hood. I echo, it is a shame Nissan discontinued and certainly puts support in questions.
Something is wrong - there shouldn't be ANY diesel exhaust under the hood.
I think I’ve requested this before but I’d like to see a video on the GM 6.5L.
Well this was informative. I knew there had to be some serious failing points since it didn't last long and the fact that I see so many of them come into my work.
No more failing points other than any other production diesel, if they had made it 8 lug full on 3/4 ton it would’ve done just fine
Have a 2016 pull a lot of trailers love the truck all I ever had to is fix is the egr I have 145,000 miles on the truck! Love the engine very quite .
I love these episodes. I believe Nissan quit using the 5 litre for the turbo issues, and regen/def related issues. I may be wrong but that's what i recall. Speaking of recall, seems they learned their lesson from the cvt fiasco by putting an end to this 1. Hopefully there's some serious R&D and the 5 litre makes it back to the market.
Nissan stopped using the 5.0 because Cummins cancelled the contract. Emission changes and the need for more power was forcing Cummins to invest engineering money into a motor that wasn’t selling volume wise. 22,000 units a year isn’t enough to justify a further investment. The motor has zero turbo issues other then the regular 200k replacement. Issue is it’s a two stage and with the computer you are stuck ordering their $5000 turbo with no other replacement. The engine does have crankshaft issues with plenty breaking and the used market has sky rocketed due to availability so your stuck spending $15,000 plus for a used engine
Good video - I own and daily drive a 2018 Titan XD with the 5.0L. I bought it in 2021 with 19,100 miles, the previous owner took meticulous care of this truck, Car Fax documented thru the dealership. I got to meet him and his family, great guy too.
I put it on a diet, delete and tuned with a few other mods and couldn't be more happy with my 5/8 ton truck. I come from a 5th Gen Ram 1500, 5.7L that was tuned (ECM swap/ Diablosport) and honestly hated towing my camper with it but not with the Titan XD. It pulls so much better than the gas truck did. I do wish Nissan had followed the electronics update curve, the interior is slightly outdated but I have plans for that also. No Android auto/ Apple Car play, back-up camera was awful and GPS/NAV was wonky in the 2018 year. The newer 2019 head unit will fit but re-pin (or harness) and a trip to the dealer will get CarPlay, Android Auto and a newer Google maps on the head unit for ~$500 or so.
This post is hilarious, you and I have the same thoughts! I too went from a ram 1500 5.7 hemi, that was a great truck other than when you put any load in the back it squatted real bad. I bought a new 2018 in june of 2019, titan Xd, and deleted it the first month i drove it off the dealership, and have been takin good care of it. I love the truck! 33,000 miles no issues! But because its a 2018 i missed out on the apple car play which is really my only gripe with the truck.
@@LeroyJenkins0311 you can buy the 2019 version of your radio and get a harness made by a guy on Facebook to get car play/ Android auto and the better Navi/screen. Look up Luke Wood.
@@LeroyJenkins0311 what's with all the Nissan drivers also being dodge drivers lol
Man you go in depth in these videos. I own a 2016 5.0 with 30k miles. Hopefully it’ll be reliable long term with a delete.
You are so knowledgeable man ,great info
Straight 6 is the only Cummins I will recognize! Love my 2021 3500 HO!
So you’re ignoring the marine and railroad market, a racing legacy and some other shit because Dodge shoehorned an excavator pump engine into a pickup truck in the 80s and configuration, bore and stroke took over?
Don’t tell me you take your 1 ton to the Commercial side at the Cummins dealer instead of the Ram service department…
@@roundsm18 ok. U feel better now for getting that off your shoulders.. Lol.
I have a 19 Titan XD but I’m hoping to trade it for a Megacab Dually HO!! Had a 16 2500 Cummins with the 68RFE. Waiting on business to pick up so I can trade my XD with some money down on that Megacab Dually HO !!!!!
There was a few design issues with this engine which some were discussed. Other issues such as cranks cracking from overworking or modding the engines. They were not as popular as Nissan anticipated and had a host of problems.
They were marketed poorly and the idiots that had a "host of issues" were mostly dumb rednecks trying to get 1 ton truck performance out of a half-ton motor. That's not Nissan's fault.
I bought a '17 XD new and had a great 1st 50k miles! Then the high pressure turbo, then the actuator and now the low pressure turbo which has been backorder for 10 weeks with no delivery date in sight!
Thank you for uploading. Cummins makes the best diesel engines in the light-duty truck applications, not to mention the fact that the 1989 Dodge Ram equipped with the Cummins diesel engine was (to my knowledge, I could be wrong) the first use of a reliable diesel engine in a pickup truck.
I have a 2017 XD Pro4x and exactly as you said it’s a good 1/2 ton 5/8 ton engine. I like the truck very much and given more time to develop into a second generation along with better advertising of the truck it could’ve been successful
Hey I am rest driving one tomorrow. Do you use it for towing or any heavy duty work or just daily driver?
I have the gas bottle, love it. It is really good. I don't understand why they did not advertise this truck at all over all the years. They did for the frontier but in the other vehicles, but not this one I was very disappointed if they truly wanted to keep going, then they should have advertised the s*** out of it. A lot of people when they saw my truck go I didn't even know Nissan built a full size truck. That's how bad it is. They should fire those people who work the advertising for the CEO because it's a joke.
This is a diesel engine size more commonly seen in international markets, like Australia with the Toyota VD 4.5 V8 diesels. It sounds wicked in modified 70 series Land Cruisers and seems to do well powering that highly robust yet compact platform. Wish it would have found its way into more US applications alongside the BMW straight six diesels but "They" seem to have determined that diesel must be regulated out of existence
Say it. Say it’s democrats and the EPA. 😂 ITS OKAY
Extremely informative….. keep up the good work.
Great video man, also the cats meowing around 6:45 killed me
Thought I was crazy. glad someone else heard it too lol
These are definitely underrated trucks. These tow better than my 2500 hemi ram, with better fuel economy and more power. They're also way more comfortable to drive. 3hrs in my ram and I'm ready to stop driving, literally drove from TX to FL and never was uncomfortable in my Titan. I will buy another truck, but I won't sell my Titan.
Absolutely agree with everything you said also own a 2500 ram hemi and titan xd 5.6l
I personally own one of these trucks and have been very satisfied with it. In fact I am currently on day 45 of one long road trip hauling an rv granted it’s not the heaviest load the truck can haul but it is still around 10,000lbs and it has handled mountain roads at as much as 6% grade without any issues. My biggest complaint is the fact that Nissan and Cummins did not continue their partnership! With time like any manufacturer as time goes by improvements are made and the market becomes better! I am constantly contacted by dealerships with customers looking for trucks like mine asking me to sell it which I have no plans on doing any time soon! You also do not have to delete this engine to get a sizeable increase in power by installing simple add ins such as the scorcher and momentum offered by aFe which will keep you legal based on newer federal regulations concerning diesels!
The 5.6 gasoline version has more capacity and towing. The biggest problem in my opinion.
It’s a good new engine I just wouldn’t drive it without a warranty/lease agreement.
@@king0dasouf where do you get your figures that the 5.6 has more capacity? The 5.6 max is around 9k, the xd is closer to 13k. Recheck your statement
@@albanutz
Lol. Max capacity was the single cab 5.6 at 2,701 lbs, while towing 12,640 lbs. While the diesel version of the same truck had a capacity of 2,180 lbs and a towing capacity of 12,360 lbs. The info is easy to find on google if you had just looked.
I have a CAT 287 skid steer with a 74hp 4 cylinder that moves a 10,000 machine lifting and pulling 4300lbs up in the bucket no problem in mud!
This way a very informative video. Great presentation. Subbed
My 5.0 Ripps, it has a heavy trailer on it daily, and also makes a quiet comfy family rig for long trips. I got videos on my you tube if you want to hear a tuned one.
These engines always intrigued me, and they sound fantastic. V8 diesels just sound so sweet.
Look up a 903. They sound pretty sweet. Although personally I prefer the tractor like sounds of my 12V.
A Cummins with a 2nd Gen exhaust manifold sounds amazing. But yeah, I love the sound of V8 diesels as well (except for the new ones, which were purposefully made quiet).
@@92powerdiesel61 12V and 24V Cummins sound miles better than the 6.7, especially the 24V which can sound like a semi
@@169abr my 5.9 with the 4” turbo back straight piped exhaust and 5” tip sounds amazing. Tuned to about 460hp now, and only a slight haze on full throttle. Pulls my 16k fifth wheel like nothing all over Colorado at an average of 18 mpg. It can’t be beat in anything currently available.
@@169abr 12V with ve pump and a wide open 5" exhaust... oh my fudge sounds amazing. I did that to my f350. I have a video of it idling actually. I was raised around muscle cars though, so the sound of a V8 > I6.
Owned both 5.0 and now 6.7. the 5.0 sounds great, gets decent mpg, starts in -10 weather no problem, has great fuel filter location . 5.0 turbo can be somewhat possessed and cp4 fuel pump can be problematic. My 6.7 pulls much harder at a fraction of the rpms and doesn't like cold starts.
I’ve never used the newer stuff but I remember our 1999 F350 with a 7.3 didn’t like cold weather either. Great truck though. Before that we had a 1992 Ram 3500. The Cummins was the only good thing about that truck. The truck itself had terrible rust, terrible suspension, and pretty much fell apart. The 2 trucks were only 7 model years apart but felt like 30.
@@RobertSmith-le8wp I have a 1999 7.3 with 540k on it this winter sucked for it but my 5.0 didn't care one bit...till the turbo blew up and is now on 5 month back order. 7.3 gonna have a bunch more mules by the time the 5.0 is fixed
How was the mpg, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say the 6.7 gets better
@@james2042 no, the titan would get 16-18 consistently with a light foot empty while consuming outrageous amounts of DEF. The 6.7 (stock) varies more, can average 14 but also can get up to 20 in warmer weather while consuming about 1/3 the amount of DEF. Towing the 6.7 gets better mpg especially on heavier loads when the 5.0 starts to consume more fuel.
I would love to see you do a video on the 3.0 eco diesel ram produces. I had very bad luck with mine.
Very good! Good knowledge
I worked at Cummins and this engine was in the think tank long before 2009. The reason it didn't go into the Ram 1500s is because Fiat had their own diesel they wanted to use that they were convinced would be a better fit. They also teased putting a Fiat made diesel in the 2500s and larger trucks but they did their research and realized that they would lose customers.
hey if you did in fact work there, does the isv variant actually does the same nissan tricks where the crank splits, the pump grenades and the egr meltsdown?
i have a cummins dealer where i can order engines but ive wondered what happened with this one after the nissan dropout
Before the fiat merger ram and Nissan were going to co develop the next titan and ram and the cummins 5.0 was going to also be offered in the 1500 ram, which would have been great. But whem Fiat got Chrysler that deal was scrapped amd Nissan was left with the 5.0 cummins before cummins discontinued that engine.
@@Velkanis This engine was still in development when I left so I have no experience with it.
@@joem7572 awww thats a shame man....
@@joem7572as for the Fiat engine, was it a 6.7? I heard that was co-designed with Cummins. They have different bores and strokes, but I heard it was a cooperative effort. Do you know if it’s true?
I think the big problem is that it didn't compare favorably against their own gas engine. Particularly in the fuel economy department. A few tenths is huge in a commercial truck, but in a commuter that tows sometimes, it needed to be a little more significant. The gas engine tows about as well, gets about the same fuel mileage (even while towing) and doesn't require def or other $$ equipment. It needed to either tow a lot better or get much better economy and it did neither. Specially after they cranked up the 5.6 a little the next year.
Good comment! Very informative!
I didn't realize Nissan dropped the Xd . I have 1992 Cummins in DODGE 350 dually. Great video.
XD is still here just the cummins is gone
My VW also uses a CP4 pump and it’s a known failure point for the same reason. You can retrofit a CP3 for pretty reasonable
I have a 2016 XD and like you mentioned in the video the DEF pump failed me. I have around 70k miles on mine right now. I tow a 30 foot camper and I have no problems doing it and feel incredibly safe doing it with my family in the cab. I hope it last me a long time!
Its the def system not surprising just delete it
Void your warranty and it won't pass inspection in most states.. If you own a business and work with it the DOT will ticket you.
@@hihaveaniceday9386 How do you do that?
@Edward Santiago you gotta know people lol ;)
How many miles on it now ?
Make a video on every engine since 2003.
Summary : spun or collapsed lifters, wiped cams, bad timing chains/guides, dropped valves and seats. It’ll be the quickest video ever 😂
i have one.I like the truck,EGR cooler is typical failure plus crankshaft but that is because of the oil I think.
Just found your channel. Wealth of info. Love to hear about the EcoDiesel 3.0. Sub
I’ve had both straight 6’s and loved them both. I now have the v8. I’d take either of the 6’s over this one. Problem here is all the restrictions on it. It’s not allowed to be a diesel as much as the other two.
Probably because of the USA’s ridiculous emissions laws
What restrictions?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 EGR, SCR, and whatever other exhaust crap they put on there.
@@______-id5ud oh I thought it had some structural weaknesses, but in the video he said big turbos can push this thing very well
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 a tune and delete does just fine and keeps the drive ability of the truck.
the only problem i seen was the rear end config in the Nissan. id love for Ford to use this in the F150 since they disconnected the 3L PS. a 5.0diesel with a 10sp trans and 3.55 limited-slip gear would be a useful truck for me
Ford is built out of recycled beer cans, I mean aluminum. Lmao
@@871jamie saves weight no rust the "steel" in the chevy body is thin as foil
@@871jamie I prefer that, it doesn’t rust and when you live in the rust belt that’s a big deal.
@@FishFind3000 buy what you want and I’ll do the same. I prefer to not drive a beer can.
@@Perry2186 I don’t buy Chevy trucks either.
I love the engine! 148000 miles with no issues.
Very Informative details I own 2018 love every min of driving Quality Truck 🚚 I shares your link with friends
I’ve been wanting to do a 5.0 diesel swap in my ecoboost.
I love my 2016 Titan XD, I pull a steal gooseneck 3 horse trailer regularly fully loaded including the family and the truck never complains. 102,000 miles now and the only repair I’ve had to do is the turbo actuator at 90k. Looking to delete soon since I tow so much but honestly power is fine stock.
My dad had to replace the turbo actuator on his too. I talked him into deleting. Very simple and no issues since. I deleted my 3500hd chevy 7 years ago 120k miles ago and haven't had a single issue since either.
These engines are obsolete for a reason
@@erikcapozzi3425 yeah my dad broke his crankshaft at 70,000 miles pulling onto the interstate. Bone stock everything. Nissan replaced the entire motor under warranty.
Delete and only do a 60hp tune. Earth shattering difference on my 17 XD. Sounds incredible.
Good video! I love this engine!
D*** dusty I'm very impressed on your research my friend holy snap I swear that That was very informative thank you and keep up the great work my friend thanks
Nope the 5.o cummins has timing chains while the 5.9 and 6.7 cummins are gear driven. The gear driven cummins engine will last long then the chain driven. Just my opinion
Real diesels have gears to toy chains. GM has nice inline six diesel for have ton bot they cheap them out with you guessed it chains junk !
Guaranteed
Yes toy chains will never last as long as gears
Great job on this video. My XD is the best truck I have ever owned. The expanded towing capacity of a diesel and rides like a Cadillac.
I tow about 60% of the time. I roll the scales at 16k moderately loaded, truck trailer and gear. The XD just shrugs its sholders and goes.
I had an xd diesel for 2 yr and loved the truck. It provided more than enough power to pull my 7500 lb camper. However def system sucks and would put my truck in reduced power mode often and with recent fuel increases i reluctantly went back to a gas 1/2 ton.
All Def systems suck lol.
Really wish saw this video before buying my 2016 Nissan Titan XD. The reason why it didn't catch on is because of all the problems this video touched on happened a lot. In the first 2 years of owning my truck I have had EGR Actuator Replaced because it failed, Boche Fuel Pump just failed and the coolant electrical issue which is a common problem not stated in this video average of 4-6k total to repair. Overall the truck runs quite as stated averages around 15 mpg but I am now debating on switching out my turbo and buying an extra EGR valve for the future.
Other than the soot clogging things up, like the issue Jared's #wrencheveryday truck had. I so wanted nissan to keep this engine going so i could order a new one.
As a former Cummins technician myself I thought it was stupid they went back to using glow plugs on the ISG. The old 5.9L and the 6.7L in the Ram doesn't have glow plugs. 😕
Because the 5.9 and 6.7 are direct injection. If the 5.0 is indirect injection it will need glow plugs
@@robertlindsay9826 What you said makes absolutely no sense at all. Direct injection has nothing to do with needing glow plugs or not.
@@Modine. Don't believe me then. Google it
@@robertlindsay9826 Google what, that the G series has glow plugs? I know it does. But you insinuated that the 5.0 needs glow plugs because its direct injection. That's what doesn't make any sense. Btw all diesel engine are direct injection.
@@Modine. I don't know anything about the new 5 liter. Not all diesel engines are direct injection. This is a big subject, but just about all small diesels used in pick ups are indirect injection, they have a pre combustion chamber. The diesel is not injected straight onto the piston, but into this chamber which is press fitted into the head, ie just about all Toyota's. A good example is the Cat 3206 engine. They are made in both forms, the indirect injection been the older design. What I was taught , is that an indirect injected engine is a bit quieter and can rev higher. But direct injected is cheaper to build supposedly more economical, and in my opinion not very much louder. Like my wife's car , Landrover Freelander has the Ford ,2 2 EcoBoost, direct injected. It does 16 km per liter, at 130 km per HR. Which is excellent.
I live in SA.
Regards Allan
I just bought one not too long ago. I bought it because I needed a new truck that I could afford. I’ve owned a couple of Duramaxes, and Powerstrokes in the past and was absolutely thrilled with the idea of getting a newer one than I’ve ever had before. However, in 2022’s used car bubble… I quickly realized if I truly wanted a normal 3/4 ton diesel, either my budget was going to double or it was going to be 15 years old with a quarter million miles.
So instead of giving up or trying to stretch my budget, I actually lowered my budget slightly and got to thinking what it was I actually need a truck for? And after listing out, plowing my driveway, runs to the home center, pulling maybe 10,000lbs once a year or so. I realized I’d probably be just fine with a half ton for now. But I still wanted a diesel. I test drove a few eco diesel rams and while I absolutely loved the ride and interior of the rams. Their tow rating with the eco diesel is absolutely ABYSMAL at just 7,700lbs. I mean, my wife’s grand Cherokee is rated better than that…
So I remembered that back in 2015 I had test driven one of the first Titan XD trucks available in my area and it being something I thought I could be happy with. So I started looking and found that they happened to be going for right around what I lowered my budget to. And that was with half the miles and anywhere from 2-6 years newer than what I was finding before I readjusted my search. So I found one with 100,000 miles and was a 2017. Compared to the 2012s I was finding with 175,000 miles in Chevy or ford. I decided to give it a shot.
This would be a GREAT crate engine for an off-road 4x4 project. They should (if they haven't already) make it available that way.
If Nissan would have made a "xd" package like bigger brakes, cooling, axles, beefier frame.etc and had the option of the 5.0 Cummins I think it would have been received well, especially if the reliability and support was better too.
The XD is a different from the regular 1/2 ton in so many ways. The XD sits on a different frame, bigger than a 1/2 ton yet smaller than a 3/4 ton. Brakes and axles are beefier on the XD too.
Nissan full size trucks have never been well received in the US market. And the sales numbers show that, they’re dismal. Sure the fact that they don’t have 3/4 and 1 ton variants sure doesn’t help, and most buyers don’t understand or need/ want an XD truck that is a middle road between a 1/2 ton and 3/4t. Along with I would say most buyers aren’t even considering Nissan when they look for trucks. Although this 5.0L cummins was a massive selling point for them... but even then it didn’t stick. And frankly I think Nissan has their trucks at a price point that doesn’t represent a good value to the American truck market, and that keeps people at bay.
@@chevyon37s no one wants to buy a Nissan truck. They could put a compound turbo 5.9 in a 1ton and it would still undersell a dying GM.
Great information , it’s a good engine but def system it is a big issue same with other brands !
Had one of these for 3 years ,horrible lag off the line and it started to have major turbo and egr issues and drank def fluid
My brother in law had a Titan XD that spent more time in the shop than his driveway, complained about it constantly. He traded for an F250, hasn't complained since.
5.9 isnt exclusive to ram,theyve been used in about everything you can imagine,farm equipment, medium duty trucks including ford,big ass wood chippers and many more,pretty versitile engine
They are talking about exclusive in terms of ford, GMC/Chevrolet and RAM(DODGE)
@@YENKOGT no
@@hydrocutty yes.... And we can keep doing this, because is Sunday, and I'm in bed with my wife and there's nothing good on netix hahaha God bless you.
@@hydrocutty (on Joe Biden voice) yes... Come on man...
Very good and informative video. As a Nissan tech, I am definitely not a fan of these engines. Relatively problematic with mediocre performance and fuel economy. When this was announced, I was ready to place an order for one. But once I went to training on them and drove one, I quickly changed teams and bought a 2016 Ram 2500 Cummins. Price and capability were 2 of the biggest problems with this platform, causing the 5.0 to be dropped after only 4 years.
As he says it is a gap filler. And it does that. Pulls the 32 ft camper great at interstate speeds and works as a daily driver.
Nissan never gave it a chance. Nissan never advertised it.
Lol. You bought a 2500, which is a giant heavy duty truck drawbacks that the video details and which the 5.0 was supposed to mitigate. Sounds like you preferred the 2500's advantages over those of the 5.0, so you weren't the target market.
Wow! Great video!
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