REMAPPING BEFORE & AFTER 0-60MPH! - AUDI A5 3.0 TDI QUATTRO PROJECT - DARKSIDE DEVELOPMENTS - PART 4
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- On to Part 4 of our 3.0 TDI Quattro Audi A5 project car vlog.
In this vlog we perform our own custom remap on car as well as testing the before and after 0-60mph times on the Racelogic Performance Box to see what difference this makes in the real world, as opposed to the pub bhp figures that can be produced by a dyno.
We have to say, the V-Box showed 4.9s on the screen, but when we went back to the data, it was actually 6.03s stock and 5.18s with the tune. No idea why the screen shows different to the data!
We also asked you what daily wheels you want to see on the A5?
We are looking at sizes 20" x 10" so please make suggestions that are available in that size. Make your suggestions in the comments below.
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That launch after the map is brutal. This thing's going to be a monster by the end.
I’m sure we have all been overtaken by this car at some point since you first made this comment ha
Only just noticed you guys are next to my work, Iv got the loud obnoxious rs3 😂
VOSSEN CV3's or Rohana RC10's look great on the A5's. The concave look really suits them.
That's quick after remap, supercar performance from a V6 diesel 😁
Supercars don't take 5 seconds to 60.. I mean it's fairly quick but not more than that
@@dandylion1987 early to mid 2000s supercars I'd say
No not even close mate. A base model 2004 porsche 911 can do 0-60 in 5 seconds and that's not even close to a supercar. 5 second 0-60 is like 80s supercars at most
@@Sinoops but this is 2 ton premium class sedan. I very doubt u can get such comfort out of supercars
Juris Dabolins this is a coupè
I’ve always been a fan of the factory rs4 wheels. The split 7 spoke ones.
Had mine mapped but its the cabriolet so wonder how much I lose with the extra weight?
The new Ispiri FFR2 Lightweight Wheels would look insane, running 20x10 ET25 all round is decent enough fitment on my A5
What do you think of something like the Miro 111 rim?
Its a great looking wheel in my opinion and they aren't super pricey.
would you recommend for any 3.0 diesel turbo
Nice , my brother had the same car with a stage 1 tune and miltek exhaust & downpipe. I’ve got the facelift black edition 2.0 tfsi manual , definitely needs a remap but I should have got automatic probably
Thanks bro
Good videos man . Might let you pimp my 120d up
Would love to see something in the style of the Zito ZS05 or the BBS CI-R on the A5.
Keep up the videos guys, there's not alot of people doing propper diesel performance videos.
We have the vote active now - facebook.com/darksidedevelopments/posts/2946648042019410
It's taking shape nicely guys,this build going to be track focused or road legal ? DPF on or off ,quest for big power.
Big build!
I would love to see a set of HRE or ADV wheels. PLEASE :D
got one of these, 10 plate mapped to 319.8bhp and 420lbft torque, goes like hell but DPF still in... for now
Who mapped yours?
I own a SQ5 TDI. Makes 254 WKW (339 WHP) and 715 nm with just a map. All else standard .
I would not change it for a petrol 3.0 the torque is just to addictive
Looking to get one of these in the next week or so, upgrading from a Corsa e vxr. What’s it like on the darkside?
Much better ;)
How does it feel performance wise against your old jetta (you took me out in that when it was running the 2260 when you were still working out of the shed) looking at an A5 3.0 for the missus next, wanted to avoid the DSG and get one with the ZF auto but that looks impressive.
Hard to say, not driven it for years! haha
These feel good. Plenty quick enough for the Mrs!
Darkside Developments I made the mistake of letting her drive my 4.2 V8 Phaeton, she wants more power and luxury now lol. (she has a mk6 GT TDI at the minute)
@@matthpotte Bad move... haha
Just wondering what gearbox this is and what type come with the A5?
Is there any visual differences to look out for as some sellers don’t state the gearbox on ads. Just have pictures to go with.
Kind regards
Asad
This is the 7 speed DL501 DSG, Labelled as S-Tronic.
i remember when i bought this car not this but another one. And i tried both manual and automatic. Its a HUGE diffrent in speed between the automatic and manual box so ofcourse i bought the manual box insted just a tip.
In got a mk5 gti golf love it but my next car is going to be Audi A5 3.0 tdi do they go well do they drive sport on and what’s best from manual or dsg ? Me I’d like to go dsg but what’s your thoughts
Yes they're nice to drive and with a remap pretty quick. Plus they sound great! We went for the DSG but it you are not going crazy the manual are fine too.
20x10 3sdm 0.06 looks so fucking amazing on A4/A5
What about 100-200 after remap?
how do you launch the car?
do you have launch control or is it already like that stock?
Quattro mate, like that stock.
If you posted videos of you doing the work and undoing bolts these would be trending I bet
The work has been too much to film easily, we will do some like this in the future as we get more subs.
BlankStudioTV theres not mutch bolts to do with a remap mate.
I remapped my A8 which had the 3.0L diesel and the difference was massive, torque mainly went through the roof, bhp was up to 320 from 240.
I remapped my 2008 Audi A8 4.2 TDI V8 from 326hp to 407hp and 850+ NM
@@1dayumay548 Its the turbo that does it, the 4.2 TDI is a great engine, also with the Diesel you keep the economy with the power I was getting over 50mpg on a motorway run. Whats the pound foot of that?
I've found with my S8 i've got more BHP a shade under 700bhp, more torque at 900nm / 660ft,lbf but its never going to economical! most I can get is 37mpg
@@riverstour Basically it's the same fuel economy after remapping, or maybe lower a litt bit. I think with a straight pipe and throwing the DPF, it will be better, like 415hp at least or maybe 420
@@1dayumay548 I reckon that power would give a 4.2 petrol a run for its money, even with it being a heavier car. I had the RS5 and i thought that my 3.0 TDI wasn't far off that then. The 4.2TDI with that power would easily keep up with it if not be faster. The only thing I've found with my TDI A8 was the lag, I'd stick my foot down there'd be a delay then the power was like a thud, where as the RS5 the power was instant no matter what gear or speed
@@riverstour the lag is the Gearbox and can be tuned away. 300hp is more realistic for a 3.0 on stock turbo.
OEM wheels tend to look best on Audis IMHO. Maybe some off an A8/S8 to get the bigger size
JayT1984 great idea lol I have some 2000mile s8 21” wheels and like new Contis for sale 🙂
@@Kingdonnerkebab send an email about them :)
Ryan P whats the email please, tried sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk but it wouldn’t send.
@@Kingdonnerkebab that's correct, try going through the contact form or just attach one picture
some Audi wheels don’t fit on the a5 but I’m not sure about a8 wheels
I love the looks of these very same stock rims that it has. Only they could be an inch bigger and silver like original.
I haven't had a chance to drive a S-tronic 3.0 TDI myslef but it seems to be little like the ZF6 tiptronics: It feels as if they hold the car in first gear too long and could shift a few hundred RPM earlier. I love the project by the way.
Hi guys. I’m after a remap on my seat Leon fr 2.0tdi. Reg dg14 czf. What could you guys do? Considering a dog delete too. Would you guys recommend it? With the way mot tests are going etc?
Please drop us an email and we can price up some options for you - drksi.de/contact
To other 3.0tdi owners I just managed to install a provent catch can behind the front fog light. There is a heap of space there. There was no space in the engine bay. This will help with gunk build-up on the intake side. Oil in the intercooler etc.
Thanks for info, too low for a catch can is sometimes a bad Idea so keep an eye how much it fills without connection to intake pipe as you can sometimes get a runaway situation.
@@ryanp6138 cheers it is connected back to the factory intake pipe just before the turbo compressor. It is a Mann and Hummel provent 200. I've had one on our Touareg for about 1 yr. They work very well.
Hey guys. I've an Audi a7 2013 model. 230k kms on the clock. Would remapping improve performance and economy? If so, which remap would you recommend
As long as the car has been looked after well with regular services etc. Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk 👍
OZ Ultraleggeras 😍
Thought the rear diff was sealed by manufacture? What oil was used on it anyways?
There are no service schedules, but the car has done almost 100k, and its going to be driven hard, so its worth doing.
We use Genuine VAG Oil, in this case it was this - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/genuine-front-and-rear-differential-oil-g-052-145-a1-a2-s2.html
Great video. What bhp spec was this before you mapped it ? I’ll be in touch once I’ve found the right one.
Many thanks
Got the full specs for it here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-b8-3-0-tdi-cr240-ccwa/
If you scroll to the bottom, the stock figures will be there plus every version of it that we did
Raywells look gorgeous on them
I know you guys make a dpf delete for this car but would you consider making a 3” cat back (with no boxes) as well, if so I would define interesting in buying!
We can but would need the car in our workshop depending on your location - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-developments-custom-exhaust-systems.html
How much tourqe does the s-tronic gearbox take comfortably?
We go ours to around 650lbs/ft but it wasn't quite happy at that so safely around 600lbs/ft
Hi. What figures would you get from an Audi A3 8v 2.0 tdi 150ps
Just with a remap? ~175 - 190bhp
Above that the upgrade path is pretty similar to these - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/mqb-platform-ea288-engine-tuning-184-cuna-cupa/
What gearbox has this got, tip tronic or dual clutch? Also where are you based ?
It is the S-Tronic DSG, its all in the Spec List, and blogs etc.
We are in Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
You need to watch those S tronic boxes, they go wrong pretty often , the old torque converter auto in the earlier cars is the one you want unless you have deep pockets for repairs
@@doncrabtree2728 Its like anything though, fill for life then cry when it breaks!
i wanted this car 5 years ago lol. The only dirty diesel that sounds decent with an exhaust. Then I came across a 350z. Was planning to remap to 280-320 bhp
I've dailyed both, the 350z was definitely better. A little faster stock vs stock, but handles significantly better and has an extra cool factor. Also cheaper to maintain, much cheaper. Not that the a5 is expensive, but it's still an audi. Except during winter, the a5 is faster then, Quatro will do that.
Loaned the a5 for 6 months while i was saving for my Z.
@@Erowens98 that 350z ugly as hell. how can be that "cooler"? maybe for ricerfans.
Any issues with these mapped engines when not driving many miles? Im looking to buy but I only do about 50 miles per week.
Not really. Only thing short distance won't be good for is DPF but thats regardless of tune
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks for the reply, really appreciate it.
Have you guys ever done anything with an older V6, specifically the 320 cdi (CLK - Mercedes) from 2005. It's currently totally stock, with a healthy 140k miles - but would be interested if you've played before...
We only specialise in VAG and BMW so that is not an engine we have worked on.
@@DarksideDevelopments Cheers for that!!
i suggest some 19x9 or 19x9.5
Do you guys tune Landrovers ?
I’m based in doncaster
Unfortunately just VAG and BMW
The manual gearbox on my A4 B8.5 Quattro doesn't *quite* make it to 60 before I need to change up... :(
It's still pretty frickin' sweet on a basic remap though! :)
Lift the limiter!
I'm a big fan of the Rohana rc10 wheels or Ferrada FR4 which look almost the same.
How far away are you from Manchester?
1hr
What sort of 0-60mph times would you expect from a Q5 with same engine? Similar? Otherwise what else would be required to hit a 5s 0-60mph? Cheers
0-60 has a lot of variables, so it is impossible to say. What does it do now? And what power is it?
@@DarksideDevelopments Standard from the factory. Just want to be able to give a few other faster cars a bit of a run, also want to steer clear of emissions issues so will retain DPF/EGR/emissions gear, for now. Cheers
@@ml16R32 From just a remap on the A5 we saw around a .8s drop 0-60mph
I love this engine aha
Hi looking to buy an at v6 3.0 I heard after 100k miles they engine isn't good and will have lots of trouble is this true
Was looking for a reply 😃
Most of our projects have over 100k and have little to no engine issues. Providing you find one with reasonable service history you should be ok. You have to expect the usual wear and tear when purchasing a used vehicle.
What technique you doing to launch the car?
Foot hard on brake and full throttle. LC never worked stock or tuned
Is this remap safe for the engine lads? Dont want to go looking for a new one after 3 months
We have never blown an engine from a remap yet!
I think 3SDM 0.06 19"x10" 5x120 ET40 in Silver Cut
did you just used your blinker for entering a roundabout?
That's what you are meant to do over here
@@ryanp6138 ohh okay
Ultra wheels UA9 are fire
Wow man i would like to tune my passat 2.0 dsg 170hp by you guys but am from Serbia and i can't come to you :(
Hi i have an 2012 a7 3.0tdi with 134,000miles on would it be worth/safe to stage 1 with that mileage?
If it's been well looked after with regular services etc, it should be fine. Had plenty of high mileage cars with us
@Darkside Developments yeah it has full service history...would you recommend it be worth doi g dpf erg delete aswel as map at same time? Any cons to that?
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
just the legalities around that!
The stronic has launch control. Select sports on the gearbox, press the traction control button, then throttle to the floor. Think it revs to just over 2500revs
Not had it working but will keep trying.
It'll be in the manual. It's been a long time since I've had mine but I think that was the procedure
@@ryanp6138 hold traction control button for about 19 sec and the go peddle has to go to the floor for LC to work. This is on my car anyway. You may have a different experience. It is a bit finicky.
10 not 19 😁
@@warriorbrawl I'm sure I tried 10s but not 19, haha. Works now we tuned the Gearbox, next video soon!
I've driven a golf tdi remapped by darkside and the quality of work is very high, and the gains are very impressive, and I have been in the German car tuning scene for over 20 years, and I'm not easily impressed! 😂
Hi guys. Is the DPF still on there ?
It was during this video
Is this with DPF delete? Or is it still on?
It was still on during this video. Watch our next Vlog, just uploaded!
Good videos, speak up a tiny bit though, feels like you’re whispering...
Would be really quick with launch control
I think a pair of Ocean Cruise, Caribien or a vossen cv3r.
Sigue viva la caja de cambios? 😊
Yeah, still held strong
@@DarksideDevelopments 💪💪
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How much is a remap like this?? And will the manual be even quicker?
We charge £480inc VAT. I think a manual would be slower than DSG.
Manual is slower than a dsg box
I have a audi a4 2013 model 3.0 tdi Quattro and mine revs to 3000rpm on launch control don't this model have it??
Yeah my A7 2011 3.0 TDI revs to 3000rpm. You have to have Sport + Wing up manually + Dynamic + Traction Control off. Also has to been fully warm and pedal fully to the floor
@@Andydiggs91 Does that have the s-tronic?
Mine is s-tronic not sure about the a5 in the video.
@@jamiemerivavxr I found that you had to do the launch control in a certain sequence otherwise it wouldn't work, I think its only S-tronic gear boxes that you can do it on with Audi's, my Rs5 had it and it was brutal! I now have an S8 and it has a ZF 8 speed, and it doesn't have it, its also something you shouldn't make a habit of doing!
@@riverstour Yeah mine is the 7 Speed S-tronic
Will that gearbox last??
It's still going strong now!
Ryan P Yeah,but for how long?is it sustainable in the long term?That s the real question. Some say stronic gearboxes aren’t very strong anyway
Please as a fellow audi 3.0tdi owner how much to accomplish this?
Hi Darren, drop us an email with the reg to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and we will send a quote :-)
20’ 11J ET25
make a custom exhaust those V6s sound mental with it.
got a bmw 330xd with 320hp 700nm (only software and dpf off) runs 4,4 on dry conditions with 19". Diesel LOVE!
low 4 is the goal, not tested our 335d X-Drive but its faster than this stock. Exhaust is coming soon...
xCobi Meassured with?
@@peterk1834 Dyno and Butt dyno
Ryan P Huh? I was wondering how xCobi measured his 0-60 in 4,4s
@@peterk1834 i guess its more likely 4.6-4.8, but not bad.
diesel tuning worth it? or diesel otherwise? everywhere they will be banned from cities.......(?)
no dpf delete?
Not when this was done...
Be patient :-)
Looking to get my MK6 GTD custom tuned by yourselves, can you provide me with contact information please
Sure send us a message here - drksi.de/contact
Something light weight / not Bolas / not copies of copies.
Enkeis, Volks Rays, Weds. Something with a bit of purpose rather than scene points as unsprung weight is worth 4x that of sprung weight meaning better 0-60s 😁
a4 b8 3.0 tdi and a5 3.0 tdi - same engines ?
Yes
Is this just a stage 1 re-map? Have contacted you guys via email. Thanks
Yes
Golf mk7 R Pretoria but 19s, revos? Something with concave
What 0-60 tester have you got mate?
www.vboxmotorsport.co.uk/index.php/en/products/performance-meters/performancebox
We can supply if required
@@DarksideDevelopments what's the price of the one in the link couldn't see one?
@@robbiemarshall1481 The basic kit starts at £325 + VAT, you can add USB Cable & Mains Power Supply for £24
@@dannymellor8141 cheers mate might have to put that on the shopping list in near future
My a5 3.0tdi Facelift can also do in 4.8s remapped
reLOADed Z28NEH Measured with what? Dragy, VBox?
@@peterk1834 I would go for ..its an estimation from a dash video:))
Alzor makes nice cheap wheels for Audi’s!
Sub 5s to 60 is pretty amazing for a tdi
3.9 was fastest we timed but easily 3.6 if we optimised
@@ryanp6138 is the audi 3litre tdi with just a remap, faster than the e9x 330d remapped? Just with software and no other mods, except maybe a front mount cooler
@@ryanp6138 so this acceleration is from the flash file you fitted to it that made 283bhp in your dyno video at the race guys rolling road you went to? Cos its very quick for a remap with no other mods
sorry, 3.9 was with full mods
£ for lb this a5 makes huge sense, it's got f10 m5 performance, tdi economy, s5 looks and audi quality comfort and equipment, there is no downside to it at all
hi there
is your car a 2008?
2010. thanks
that is a quick derv for sure , faster to 60 than a mapped 335D ?
Yes by a decent amount when it was at its best. The new one we have will be much faster
@@ryanp6138 nice one, how much do you guys charge for a custom remap for an a5 3.0 TDI ? Is it safer to remap the old pre 2010 tourqe converter autos or are the stronic boxes still fairly robust?
@@ryanp6138 you must b crazy
Never in a million years
Mb Design kv1 20inch
Aru u car is 7 speed s -tronic ?
Yes it is
Thanks
@@DarksideDevelopments lm just asking cuz l want to go for remaining my car but I've searched online max 550 Nm torque on s-tronic gearbox but mine is already 500 Nm thanks
@@elvinrashid1327 550nm is not the limit. Check out other videos, we have over 800nm - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/audi-a5-3-0-tdi-common-rail/
So how does that 1 second cost ?
A custom remap is £400 + VAT = £480
Please see here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/ecu-tuning/
thanks
@Ron P Not necessarily, this depends who you are with.
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Tried to get my A5 remapped by Superchips (Bluefin) dealer. They blew my ECU and refused to pay for replacement. Stay well clear of those clowns.
Bring it to us and we will repair for you!
take them to small claims court
Vossin
Would this pull 5.5 tons ?
Easy, the 2.0 in the Crafter does!
Darkside Developments , I’m thinking of swapping a 7.5 big block v8 front wheel drive to this , the motorhome is 5.7 tons could it be mapped for more torque lower in the Rev range ?
@@fradaja These make ~400ft/lbs from 1800rpm
Darkside Developments. Can you do an engine and gearbox swap if I get one ?
@@fradaja Sorry this is not an engine conversion we would carry out.
Is this a custom tune from your shop?
Yes
Bola
try launch with two pedals.
The car has this disabled in the software
Any Bmw fan boy here,,,,?
You dont need to be a fan to know BMW 330 / 335d is better from the factory! haha
Mee
bmw is for retards, to get more hp on bmw u will pay 1000 eur per 1 little horse power, bmw only one bmw is for tuning and it is stock 335 turbo, all other bmw-s are made for rich kuds who will spent more time in garrage instead in car, once again bmw is tax for retards. they dont wanna made quality. if you wanna tune car over 1000hp for cheap money then buy vw! be aware of bmw n47 engines cus they sucks like hell.
a 330/335 is better than a A5 any day of the week lol.
yep
How much is the remap ?
All the options are here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/ecu-tuning/
3.0 TDI is £400 + VAT
@@DarksideDevelopments take my money
Holy shit 4.9 with 2 pass..How much is weight of the car and which tyres are u running now?
1770Kg without driver and 1/2 tank of fuel. Tyres are what came on the car with the stock 18s at the minute. Cheap stuff! We have to say, the V-Box showed 4.9s on the screen, but when we went back to the data, it was actually 6.03s stock and 5.18s with the tune. No idea why the screen shows different to the data!
@@DarksideDevelopments thats pretty good for stock engine.How much boost it remap? Do you get pikes on 2much boost?
@@ROTRANS1 2 bar is too much, 1.8 maximum
@@DarksideDevelopments so 1.8 constant no pikes on 2bar?
@@ROTRANS1 we dont run tunes like that, makes no more power or torque usually.
How much?
Please email us with the vehicle details for a quote - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
@@DarksideDevelopments it's the same Audi only 3.0litre Black S-Line
@@Fisheriscool Ok great, stick it on an email and we will quote :)
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