Will the HSP cold Air Intake increase Horsepower? *Duramax*
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Install both kits and run them each on a dyno. Let's see of the open intake really hinders performance.
400 for a pipe and filter. Right...
Loved WCFab 3 months ago, now all over HSP. Interesting 180 there...
ATTENTION ALL LB7 OWNERS: the HSP kit makes the stock turbo whistle 1000% louder. No joke. You can even hear the turbo spool down
Even for a stock turbo?
@@victorguerrero1146 yes I have the DDP intake no box and you can really hear the stock wheel
Wait so don’t go with ddp?
I have a lb7 and I don’t know which one to go with
Very good info, i went with the banks cold air intake. Looking forward to installing it here in the next few days!
05 lly duramax banks doesn’t have I don’t know ... but it uses cool air.... banks has dyno numbers and science
@@lagoonrd4173 thats what sold me. The science and numbers behind it
I have HSP cold side pipe with everything else being WCFab piping. I have invested too much into WCFab to go HSP full piping. I am happy with all the fitment and looks of both products. Very informative vid Josh. Ty and keep em coming
Thanks! I’m still running my wcfab kit as well
I'm an aircraft mechanic, and on carbureted aircraft we have carb heat from the exhaust manifold by pulling a switch. We test this every time before take off. On run-up before takeoff we switch from cool air to hot air and the back to cool. At 1800 rpm when we switch to hot air the rpm drops to 1700. We look for this drop to know that it's working. That's a good bit of power you lose. The science behind it is cool air is more dense than hot air, and more dense air has more oxygen and that's the stuff we want.
Interesting comment
Looking forward to my intake install!
Fact: cooler air is more dense and will produce more HP.
I think I’ll go with the HSP kit but with a Banks cold air intake with the Ram air Super scoop. Banks intake is similar to stock as far as a completely enclosed box but with better air flow. And it’s made of plastic which stays cooler. Anyone can take 2 plates of metal and make an L shaped “Heat shield”.
i think most aftermarket cai look great, but ive always heard over the years the stock housing is just as good with slight mod to side fender and even home made rams provide killer numbers on trucks tested.. Mine is stock with slight mod, need to finish it off and get some numbers for comparison
Dyno the different intakes!
I'm new to the diesel world. I just bought a 2013 chevy silverado 2500HD 6.6L LML Duramax with 144,000 miles on it. I'm going to be following HSP as I'm beginning to learn about my LML. I just ordered the HSP hot side (drivers side) pipe for my 1st step and 1st mod to the truck. (The truck is 100% stock) I chose the hot side 1st mostly because it looks like the easiest 1st step. I also have a 100gph Air Dog lift pump waiting for warmer weather to install.
I like the HSP Y Bridge better honestly. I like the split merge instead of just slamming some pipes together. I know it’s all under boost but it all helps airflow.
@0:13 IDK if it’s one or both of the trucks, but that’s gotta be the best sounding idle I’ve ever heard from a Duramax.
I have an S&B with the Wcfab cold side intake pipe and on 100 degree day my intake air temp I can stay at about 2 degrees higher than the ambient temperature. Pretty good. Really wanting to get the banks boost tubes and switch to the banks ram air intake and see the difference in temps and performance.
I was waiting to hear him say "Cooler Air is more dense and contains more Oxygen to burn. More 02 is what increases the horsepower".
Sorry bud I really don't think they have researched shit other than how they are going to make more money. I'm getting my soup cans out!
Just put a full Hsp high flow kit on my 2011. Absolutely 100% difference. You can hear factory turbo spool. Sounds like the hood is going to dent, from the spool.
Looking good!
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Actual intake temps will be based on intercooler efficiency mostly not actual ambient inlet temps
I have the HSP cold air intake looked great at first but the powder coat doesn't hold up also the tubing size is smaller than factor so the maf sensor needs to be calibrated for the smaller dia tubing.
It's been proven that the closed box systems provide better cold air density, the difference it seems as the build quality. HSP appears to have great quality builds 🤙
I think hsp and wc fab are both great choices but for me it was hsp
my lly w s&b sucks from fender and,bumper scoop,so cool
I’m new to the Duramax and your channel and wasn’t sure if you’ve cover this topic. I have to replace the hood on my 2015 2500 and was curious to know if you have any insight or option on the ram air style hoods.
Blew my turbo hose yesterday. Thinking about a full plumbing kit. 07 lbz
Where did you get the duramax diesel shirt
That shirt is cool
Btw I have an lly duramax
That as far as suspension and tires and all is mostly stock
But has some performance mods done 😋
I'm fixing to put my flag red HSP COLD AIR INTAKE BUNDLE and pvc engine vent on my Lmm. This should help alot straight to Turbo with engine vent and oil free air AWESOME! Just finished up an AIR Dog ll 165 ! Now I will have 3 days to get the HSP and Fass filter delete hose engine vent, I look forward to improving my lmm! Thanks for the help and Great Video 🏁
Just remember at about 600hp the internals of an LMM start to fail opposed to the LML or LB7/LBZ the injector design supposedly cracks the pistons.
Oh yeah! Unfortunately 6 holes inside of 7th at the wrist pin is not there 😕 so I have to be careful! LMM in Colorado 🤠
I have been very satisfied with my lmm Duramax 🏁 3 months later and I'm not tuned yet but stock tune and I will be tuning for more hp up to 550-575 and transmission TCM tune. Threshold for pain on stock Lmm is 650 hp Thanks 👍🏁
On my LBZ stock intake. When driving my intake temp is usually 5 degrees higher than the outside temperature. When stopped at a light or parking lot the temp skyrockets. This is oklahoma summer
Did you find out what was wrong if anything?
Thanks to Josh, Ryan has had to answer a host of dumb questions from me!
Have you had any problems with having to recalibrate the mass airflow sensor after installing this? I have an LMM and am thinking about buying an hsp intake but I’ve heard that some guys have had this problem
Wht are you IATM temps after installing?
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I know on my truck which is a 2003 in the mornings when I leave throttle response is excellent and in the evenings when the truck is hot throttle response is sluggish
What size light bar do you have installed in your grill?
I'm going to grab my soup cans,duct tape and some pretty paint and start to experiment. But seriously that is how it is done, somebody with some drive and passion to help their product lines grow and to put a smile on our faces because sound and looks beats horsepower I guess. I thought when I seen this video I was going to see some actual numbers and proof of power gains not hearing that this will make the engine run how it should.
an open cabin filter is not a cai, i mean how can it be? naturally better air flow especially with headlight removed... keep up the good work, you actually got me to care about my truck again lol
Just cut a hole in your stock box and take the passenger side headlight out if you want a huge improvement in your intake temps. Otherwise you’re just spending $400 for pretty parts. When it comes to the fab company’s HSP’s two piece ybridge is a lot easier to install over the wherli 1 piece, however, WC Fab has better customer service and shipping times. I had to wait 7 months for my HSP kit to come in the mail and was given the run around every time I contacted them. That being said I did order their intake, but that was knowing it was purely for aesthetic reasons.
HSP Diesel definitely not knocking the product or quality in any way. It would’ve been nice to know up front that I was going to have to wait for my parts and I would’ve been just fine. I spent a great deal of time researching between you guys, WC Fab, SDP, and pusher before putting my order in. One thing I would’ve liked is the option to add ybridge gaskets. I ordered a set online but they were the wrong size so I had to wait for the right ones to come in another week before installing.
HSP Diesel once again I prefer your product over WC Fab. My buddy went with wherli and when asked by guys which route should they go I recommend you guys first. I would like to also install a pusher ybridge and look at some of numbers that their setup is putting out.
Lol
Just curious to why rustbelt has a lot more coolant in his reservoir than yours? Just curious lol
Looks like the HSP box will still allow hot air from engine compartment due to open edge near front
What color red is that wcfab kit
well if your not sucking in warm underhood air you certainly should see improvement!
I like that cold air box and the pipe next to it . will I have to deleted, to put these two pipe on the truck. 2? will I need to delete just to remove the catalytic converter
Egr is long for it to bolt on , also passenger side up pipe , (manifold to turbo) , unless you are just referring to air filter to turbo.
I like my wc fab kit i live in texas so in summer time idk if the box would make such a big difference lol if wcfab make a box for filter i will buy it but im happy with it and will continue to but wcfab piping till all engine bay is complete and i use ur truckmaster code to save money
It’s definitely a great product it’s just something to think about with the open and closed system I wish wcfab came out with a lid design
@@TruckMaster ya not only a great product but the response i got when i had question got fast replys and problem fix quick which keeps me happy ...maybe they will come out with lid design in future
how does the HSP CAI compare to the banks CAI? Is HSP actually pulling "cold" air
At least the HSP has a heat shield. Not a fan of either. Honestly, i like the AFE washable filter that fits right into the stock box. That's what I did and it made a big difference for my truck. The WCFAB is not protected at all, it can get water sucked in from underneath, and it pulls hot air from the engine. However, I'm not a tune guy, I don't like tuners. I use my truck to tow, so it's not a show truck. For me why spend $300+ for a intake when I already have the piping I just need the filter. I purchased the AFE dry filter for $70 and my truck breaths a lot better, climbs hills with very little to no smoke, I get better fuel mileage, and it allows the turbo to spool quicker which I can hear out the exhaust. I achieved all those things for less than $80.
It's because wc fab Is designed specifically for racing off road performance 👏 not normal everyday driving. 😀
Tow war?
Drag race?
Dyno on both
Kit? How much where can I get it
I don’t know what to buy either HSP or wcfab
I have an AFE Momentum intake on my LMM🤷♂️
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Where can I get this kit for lmm?
More air in, more air out...internal combustion engines are nothing more than large air compressors...with the advent of computer controlled fuel systems, they will adjust the fuel mixture/ratio for added air intake...IF you're going to run an aftermarket cold air intake system, make sure to upgrade your exhaust system...
2002 GMC 2500HD LB7, 170k mi,
Banks cold air intake
Banks 4" SS complete exhaust(single)...
Been running that combo since I bought the truck in 2006 with 35k mi...
Check out banks power you tube channel. You will loose days and acquire so much insight it's astonishing!
Do these replace the egr delete kits or are these products completely different from the egr delete kit?
They are deleted.
Only a "shaker hood" can help at this point 💁🏻♂️
I just installed the hsp full intake with mouthpiece and now I’m getting a check engine light and reduced engine power message. Any suggestions? Pipe and maf are installed correctly.
Forgot to mention 2007.5 gmc lmm
Neither of these have an Outside Air Scoop such as BANKS or VOLANT cai system’s.
Pretty sad weekend here for me man... Someone stole my 2005 chev 2500 LLY that I have had since new on Friday. I had been doing a ton of mods and now they have a sweet ride. Thats unless they chopped it up. Little word of advice to all you diesel truck owners, get a decent anti theft device like a Ravelco. And don't ever stop anywhere in Quebec Canada for the night. Cheers!
I’m sorry I hope you get the truck back in one piece
@@TruckMaster Thanks man. The cops there told me that I'll never see it again. The thieves stole the horse trailer that was attached to the truck too. Took the complete unit. They were pros that steal from there all the time apparently. Keep up the great videos.
Are you from north prairie? If so your only an hour from me!
Hey i was wondering if hsp is hiring because I went to school for heavy diesel mechanic and equipment mechanic and I really want to work for an amazing shop like hsp and I love building trucks
Ask them
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I still think Banks offers a better intake system, as far as function they kick everyone's ass. HSP and WC fab is more for looks and pretty powder coat.
So wcfab doesn’t make a box for their intake. This may be an ignorant question, but would an HSP sealed box fit around a wcfab intake?
From what I believe is WCFabs piping is angled differently then HSP due to the fact that HSP has the box and WCFab doesn’t so they’re allowed to just run the filter at essentially a 45 degree angle then HSP doing a 90 degree into the box.
@@GFY..-.. Bummer. I love the wcfab kit that I have, but If I could seal the air flow with a box and get a better end result, that would be good.
Ben Buttars honestly I wouldn’t be that worried about it. When you look at the pros who drag their trucks with no filters or piping and just mesh screens how much are you really gaining by sealing off the filter box that much? I almost think it would be a little more restrictive compared to an open filter hence why pros typically run right off the inlet of the turbo.
I run the HSP but without the cover on top I mean if your towing for long distances maybe a seal box to keep the heat out but I think it’s a apples to apples comparison.
@@GFY..-.. Good to know. Mine is essentially a daily driver and I wanted increase in power/lower egt's for towing. So that was my thought, overall long term, maybe lower ambient temperature would be better.
I have lml completely deleted with Ez link. With sb cold air intake if I went with a intake this large would I have to have the tunes re done
No. I have an LML with Ez Lynk also and am running the HSP intake and in no way would you need a retune for the bigger diameter intake. Your essentially just allowing more air and your turbo if stock will only take as much as it can which eventually will be your limiting factor
Why didn't you start your truck? I would have loved to hear the difference
I just installed a stage 2 WC bundle on my lbz and I was pretty disappointed, first of all $1,600 + is a decent amount for a Name, poor shipping time , yes was custom powder coat but almost 2 months... fitment sucks, air inlet is good but the 2 piece y -bridge didn't clear fuel lines or the coolant hard line to the fire wall had to bend them and leave some bolts out, same tiwisted anlge on the hot side charge pipe, rubs power steering lines and not allighned with the turbo very well. welds were not visually satisfying either . I run max-flow exhaust,log manifolds, up pipes and down pipe. welds are pretty, over all affordable and I would recomend. Is there a cold air box that would work with the WC 4" intake ?
There is no cold side lid but I would copy cut and paste what you just said in a email and send this to them wcfab needs to hear this stuff
Hell yes Send it to WCfab I dont want to order s kit soon and have to deal with those issues.
20 degrees difference at "Idle", is a terrible point to compare. The temperature difference will matter when you are moving not at idle. So, why compare temps at idle? Just curious, not looking to argue at all (fyi)
Exactly, when you're moving, all that fresh air running through your grille is pushing the hot air back, you're still getting a great amount of air through the fender like it was originally designed. Of course when you're stopped it'll be hotter, put your hand on that air box after a long trip, its hot too. And by the time it makes it into the combustion chamber, I cant see much of a difference being made. I love it how hsp's website says every 1 degree in intake air temp, loses 3 hp, so where im from, it was +40°c yesterday, and 6 months ago, it was -40°c, 80°c difference between seasons, and hsp is american, so thats a 144°f difference, x 3hp, 432hp loss between seasons? Lmao, thats negative hp on a stock truck 😂, even say a 3rd of that cuz your intake air temp wont be the same as ambient all the time, 100hp loss, it doesnt work that way lol. Id like to see someone take the same truck, dyno it, and monitor egt's on the same stretch of road, with the same trailer on etc, etc, with the wehrli kit, and the hsp kit, and then show me a difference, and not with the hsp guy or wehrli guy running the computer 😂
For every 20ﾟ cooler it's 15 more horsepower.
All this info is opinion without running it on a dyno to verify. Of course the manufacture of a heat shield setup is going to defend his product by saying the non-shield is bad.
Plastic vs metal temps???????????????
I'd definitely like to see the comparison between the metal box vs plastic box. I've always heard the black plastic actually dissipates heat better.
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I get the idea of what the HSP guy is saying and I don’t think I’m wrong but essentially what he said is colder air = better, how much better? I can’t tell you. We collect all the data we can and we let the data do the talking. Then presents 0 data.
He literally presented no evidence for the claim and said take my word for it because we’ve done the research.
Again they are right, but provide some evidence to back it up.
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