China Tools Episode 4, ---- Finally the best T-ruler. -----
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Red Aluminium T-ruler 160mm
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Dennis, I am new to wood working and came across your channel. Brilliant!. I love your channel and your crystal clear explanation and scoring system for china tools especially. I guess you must be an Engineer. Love the ideas for your work bench. I am going to build one adopting your design.
Hi Denis, since yesterday I’m slowly addicting to Your channel. From yesterday watched few episodes and I like to thank You for honest & practical informations. I learned nice things and get confirmed to buy some of this stuff for myself. Keep going this way, friendly and helpful for all off us on other side of the screen. Regards from Amsterdam NL! 🙏🏻🤟🏼🖤✌🏼 Rafal - from Flex Contractor B.V.
Very well presented with an excellent comparison to the Red T ruler. Great job Denis. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks
Oh now the new rating for drillpro makes a difference. So the answer is you need both .. cool more tools! Great, great, great review.
Just found your channel and I'm glad i did. Just watched all 4 of your china tools series and I think yours is the most comprehensive reviews of these tools I have ever seen online. You've earned a sub. Cheers! :)
Thanks forrest, appreciate your response
Great toolreview. That's what you want to know. Whether you are a professional or a hobbyist.
I've also got the New T-ruler, and agree that it is a really high quality instrument.
Good video - thanks very much. Glad I found you. Subscribed!
Really loving these videos. I'm glad i found your chanel. Keep up the great work!!
Hi Robert,
Thanks for your comments and subscribing.
Best regards,
Dennis
Your vids are excellent! Thank you for sharing your expert knowledge.
Thanks John, appreciate your comment
Great series, very informative, subed👍👍
Nice job and thank you for the good comparison.. I'm wanting one of these now.. maybe two !
Sorry that I brought you on ideas :-).
Nice camera angles, clear audio, well thought out narration makes your content one of the most enyojable ones today in the woodworking creator community.
Although english isn't your native language, your explanations are crystal clear.
Thank you for these great review videos.
Regards,
Adam from Hungary
Hi Adam ,
Thanks for your comments. I put a lot of efforts in these video's so it is really nice to read comments like yours. It give me fresh energy to keep continue.
Thanks for your comments
Dennis
thanks for the video
From USA!!!
Thank you!
Good review thanks for taking the time to do it 👍
Thanks Cam,
I really appreciate it!
MORE MORE MORE of these videos please!
Good series of videos :) like it a lot
Excellent and straight forward tool review. The Chinese versions looked impressive but when I checked the only come in metric while the Incra offers Imperial as well.
That is right. Good to notice. Thanks for your comment.
Hey buddy, new subscriber from Texas here. Keep up the great work. I enjoy your attention to detail and your amazing shop. It's packed with function and well thought out. It makes me embarrassed of my shop. Something for me to strive for, I guess.
Since you asked, I would like to see some more of your project builds. That veneered bed with the hidden tv is quite impressive. Maybe a short review of it's construction and some detail shots of it's particulars.
Hi Jeff, thanks for your comments. If i ever have to make another one, I Will make a video about it. I made this one to complicated (and this Will not mean better). I hope I can show it in a view months.
VERY Good information. Thank you kind Sir.
enjoyable as always
Thanks Patricia,
I appreciate your comment!
Fantastische reviews. Daar heb je wat aan! "Jammergenoeg" ben ik linkshandig en is het werken met de T-ruler voor mij een probleem.
Ik zie de getallen altijd op zijn kop en dat werkt fouten in de hand. Jammer dat er niet twee schalen zijn, voor rechts- én linkshandigen.
Nogmaals complimenten voor je heldere en nauwkeurige tests en beoordelingen. Petje af.
I have a 3 piece INCRA ruler set. And just like you, I found a good use for the thicker aluminum ruler.
I use the SAE imperial system in the US. But there are many occasions when I find myself converting to the METRIC system and using that scale.
This is especially true when I started pre-drawing plans and counting pixels. For accuracy to 1/32 ND of an inch I have to go to 1280 pixels per inch.
In the metric system it's already Base 10 and easier to divide the dimensions of a project.
The only downside is that I have my lumber in imperial so I have to keep changing and comparing between the two systems.
Hi Tim, We are not used to Imperial at all and it look very difficult to work with from our point of view. But perhaps it is only that we are not used to work with it. But I like the mm better.
I agree with you on the thicker ruler. I really think they complement each other.
Mooi, een merk dat ik nog niet van gehoord of gezien heb, we hebben weer iets nieuws wat we kunnen kopen 🤪😀👍👍👍
Merry Christmas!
Thank you for sharing your experience with Banggood tools! I have just one question: What size pencil are you using on the T-rulers? I have several 0.5 mm pencils I brought back from Japan, and they are too thick to use with the rulers. I can't imagine that anything less would last longer than one score on anything other than very smooth mdf or paint grade plywood.
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Hooked on Wood Hi Dennis, great tools reviusight
Greetings from Canada. Wonderful chanel you have, subbed.
Thanks Edward
One added benefit of using the INCRA T-rule is it's flexibility. With it, you are able to accurately layout dimensions on something that is not flat...this could be a good help to wood turners
Hi Jeremy, You are right. I agree:-)
The only problem now is that there is a 1 to 2 month lead time for items arriving from China. Ordered from Bangood at the beginning of December and due to arrive February 9th.
You could mill a bevel on your large red T rulers if the thickness bothers you. They're made of aluminium anyway and almost any decent router bit will cut that without any issues. I've done it on one side of an old straight ruler I got from a garage sale.
Hi Muru, thanks for your suggestion. I look into that!
Thanks for speaking in english. Interesting video.
Just subbed. I have purchased the 400mm rule and am eagerly waiting for its delivery. Greetings from Australia.
I really think you Will like it!
@@HookedonWood I beleive so. Happy new year.
:D no clickbait. I only read "China tools Episode 4". That ruler looks awesome - specially that 1to9 between each centimeter. If only it would be longer.
To prevent your Pencil from breaking did you try the DelGuard Pencil - it has springs to lower breaking
Good suggestion, no never try them before. But sounds promising.
Hi Denis, I have given my 30 cm T Ruler inca's style, do you think it is worth to upgrade to the 40 cm to work in the shop^? thank you
You've convinced me, and I've just bought myself one.
I really think you will like it. I bought the bigger one's myself also lately. Not that I use this much, but when I need it, I do not have something else that make it that easy and accurate to do.
@@HookedonWood yeah, I ended up going for the 300mm one. I feel like the 200mm might have been a better choice, but will wait and see.
Hi Dennis I have both of these thank you
My question have you done a review on a 90 angle square capergirl🇨🇦
Hi Kate,
Here you can find a overview of all the products I tested so far. hookedonwood.online/China-Tools-Ranking/
Have you found any aftermarket square guide rails for Festool tracks (similar to the TSO version) that are more affordable?
Hi John, sorry i do not found one on this moment.
I have the Incra T-ruler with similarities.
I have most of the Incra rules and they are mostly the same nearly a 100% knock off
Great series, I buy sometimes from Aliexpress that has the same tools, but it is confusing how many offer the same at slightly different prices and they all use the same pictures. The price is on average 1/3 lower though. One remark (not sure if somebody made it already) real stainless steel is non-magnetic. So ye need (rusting) ferro in a piece of metal to make it magnetic.
The most common grades of stainless are non-magnetic, but some other grades (particularly in the 400 series) are magnetic. They have a different crystal structure but that doesn't mean they're not "real" stainless steel.
Great idea with comparing products from C with other brands that possibly are made in C? Man, you really have a high end shop. Mine’s a mess, but it’s the best. I used to have all sorts of rulers and I compared all of them with the only one I knew had the correct accuracy of the metric system (Hultafors). I had to throw a couple of the others in the bin. ///A
I also use the hultafors and it is Great
Can these tools be bought using inches rather than miilimeters? I looked at the Bang Good site but I can't see where there is an ordering option. Thanks for your great videos.
Hi Ray, most is metric. However, there are some rulers that also have inches
Hello
Thanks for all your videos and your introduction about chinese tools. How is your experiance with banggood? Did you get all you ordered? How long was the delivery time?
Hi Tex,
My experience with Banggood is very good. Three times my local postoffice for some reason return the packages to sender. All those time I got my money back when I could deliver them information that it was returned to them. I did not have to wait until they got it. (I thought that was really nice) Except from those three time all that I ordered was delivered. This took about 2.5 til 4 weeks. I do not know why one time it cost more time then other.
Best regards,
Dennis
Hi, Dennis. Excellent, excellent videos. I'm working my way through all of them. Also, have already bought some tools on Banggood, based on your ratings.
A little off topic, but I'm curious as to what the size of your work shop is -- just overall dimension is good enough.
Second question is -- are there any fatal flaws to its sizing. Sure, bigger is usually better, but curious if you'd stay with the same size or would you absolutely make it bigger if you were building it over again. I'm asking because I'm in the process of planning a dedicated shop building in my back yard, and I don't want to just make a big building if you're happy with the size of your shop.
Hi Ray,
please visti my site for a more detail look at my workshop dimensions hookedonwood.online/Frequently-asked-questions/
About the second part of your question:
I am going to build a new workshop, a bigger one. So, I want to have a larger workshop. But it all depends on what you want to make.
In my workshop I can make almost all things the way I want it till a size of 160cm long. When I want to make something longer, sometimes I have to change my design because I can not make all cuts at that size. Now I work more with massive wood, and therefore I need to place some extra machines like the jointer/planer and a bandsaw. This works in this space, but I have to open the door if I want to put a 2 meter board thru my jointer. So, if you want to work with smaller things I really like working in my workshop and there is a lot that you can do. I want to possibility to make projects of 250cm long like bigger cabinets and because of that I need a bigger space. space to cut it, space to place it temporarily and space to assembling it. My new workshop will be 10 x 6 meter. I hope this is big enough for what I want now and with some extra space If I need it in the future.
@@HookedonWood Thanks for your comprehensive response, Dennis. Very much appreciated. I really like the idea of piping some of the dust collection under the shop floor, and your focus on noise reduction. I enjoy your constant 'out-of-the-box' thinking. Keep up your great contribution to the world of woodworking.
Wish someone "remake" woodpeckers tools
Yeah... I agree. They've gone stratospheric with their pricing.
Hi Denis. Can't stop enjoying your videos since I've discovered your channel a couple of days ago. What a pleasure to watch your skilful work and high quality craftsmanship. I see you've "partnered" with Banggood for the China series. I thought you may want to know that another web site is using your image to sell the 0:32 ruler. The site is diycircle.co and they advertise heavily on Facebook. I can provide a screenshot if you're interested.
Thanks for letting me know
You need to tell everyone when it's only available in metric that would be helpful
hi. what pencil are you using? thanks
Incra 0.5mm pencil
Good video. Keep them coming. My two cents... After the whole Covid thing, Ill be realistic. I'll buy hardware from China. But for actual tools I'll give it to US, Germany, and the UK. Incra, woodpeckers, and Starrett are the best even if your pocket is tight.
Great vids! Have you checked out aliexpress tho? I find they have an even larger selection of "China Tools". :)
Q: what is the top of that router table made of please? Is that black MDF, or some kind of synthetic?
Hi Peter,
Yes, that is full colored MDF.
Yes, I also have checked out Aliexpress, I think most products are the same, but I see on Aliexpress more electric tools.
But I do not want to test electric tools jet. For no reason I bought everything by Banggood so now I am used to that and they have a nice program where you get extra's when you buy more.
When I run out of products perhaps I give Aliexpress a better look. Thanks for your suggestions.
Не встречал таких обзоров на русском языке...Очень жаль.Вы молодец)
Ik snap je conclusie volledig maar ik heb zelf toch wat bezwaren met betrekking tot de goedkope china-producten, vooral omdat ze goede ideeën goedkoop namaken. Ik heb zelf de fout gemaakt door een Roofus kloon te kopen terwijl ik dacht de echte te kopen. Prijsverschil was factor 3 ongeveer. Toen ik er achter kwam dat het een nepper was die wel met beelden van Roofus de producten aan de man bracht heb ik gelijk een echte Roofus aangeschaft. Het verschil in degelijkheid is enorm :-( Nu is dat bij T-rulers niet echt een issue maar toch. Maar, prima informatieve video, erg nuttig! Misschien moet ik je mijn Roofus en kloon eens sturen voor een vergelijkend warenonderzoek ;-)
Hi,
Bedankt voor je commentaar.
We zitten echt wel een beetje op dezelfde lijn. Laten we vooropstellen dat een imitatie als echt verkopen meer richting oplichting neigt. Of misschien is het dat wel.
Ik zeg dan ook regelmatig dat niet alles uit China sprookjes zijn. Dat is ook waar mijn idee vandaan kwam om deze reviews te maken.
Als hobbyist heb veel producten niet "vaak" nodig. Maar je hebt ze wel nodig omdat het die enkele keer dat klusje veel makkelijker of zelfs mogelijk maakt. In dit soort gevallen vind ik de producten uit China een uitkomst. Maar ik houd ook erg van mooie dingen en van innovatieve producten van toonaangevende merken. Groeten, Dennis
@@HookedonWood we zitten op 1 lijn !
@@HookedonWood Deze staat op Bangood, is een nepper die ik per ongeluk heb gekocht: www.banggood.com/Multi-function-Woodworking-Triangle-Ruler-Angle-Ruler-Revolutionary-Carpentry-Tool-Measuring-Tool-p-1514702.html?rmmds=category&cur_warehouse=CN en dit is de echte roofus.tools/, het verschil is schokkend en zelfs die paar euro die ik er voor betaald heb niet waard. Het blijft dus zaak goed op te letten. Hier beiden bij elkaar: photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2Fwvc28/0/059731d1/X2/i-2Fwvc28-X2.jpg Keep up the good work.
@@moveonmotortrainingenj-p1384 Jeetje, Ja dat verschil is idd schokkend. Ik zag in de reviews op de site ook dat er sommige zijn die het hadden over dat niet de volledige schaal gedraaid kon worden. Als het ook maar een paar van deze reviews zijn, dan haak ik meestal wel af. Dat is ook met de combinatie square uit mijn aflevering 2. Mensen erkennen dat hij speling heeft, maar geven toch 5 sterren. Dat snap ik dan niet. Dus, ik probeer altijd kritisch te blijven.
China are very good at copy !
I have mine from Incra more than 10 years ago !
For people who are surprised then China can make good tools you need to understand they make them as good as the company who asked the manufacturers to make them it's a cost and profits decision !
how accurate are they?
In my new accurate. The same as Incra
@@HookedonWood I'm kinda new to woodworking and the few "good" squares I have are by PEC ....so are Incra squares considered "accurate"?
Hi, I think PEC are good products. You can consider all INCRA products also as accurate. It is a very nice brand with High End woodworking tools. The 'NEW" T-ruler from this review is almost the same as the INCRA in terms of what you can do with it. It is a specific ruler but I use it pretty much. Especially the shorter ones. So if you work with it, I think you will appreciate it. The only drawback is, that they are fragile. In my opinion you can go wrong with the Incra or the 'NEW" T-ruler.
@@HookedonWood Thanks for the feedback and the insight.
Weet u zeker dat het geen rvs is? Aluminium is volgens mij te slap in die dikte. Geweldige video's trouwens! Edit: sorry, ik moet leren de hele video te bekijken voordat ik comentaar geef:)
Bedankt voor je commentaar. Groeten, Dennis
Please do a review video of your Harvey table saw... there is almost no on youtube from a user... an eu-user is even more like a unicorn! I am about to buy a table saw...go to Russia to buy a powermatic or a Jet? Axminster in the UK? ...or the Harvey "from" Holland? Please!!!
Hi Tony, Perhaps in 2020!
Best regards, Dennis
Incra vs these are only a few bucks difference... Why bother? Just skip a beer the night you buy the tool if you really have to!!
I agree, but this depends on country.
At around 2:52 you say it’s made from aluminium. Surely it’s stainless steel? Aluminium this thin would break when bent.
Hi Vambo,
Thanks for clearing that up! You are right that it is not made of alu. At 6.57 I say that it is made from some kind of steel alloy.
I do not know that much about steel and its characteristics. But a lot of products that I test are not that magnetic then products made in US. Do you know why? and if this is a good or bad thing?
Thanks for your comment.
Hooked on Wood .....subscribed😉
When I want a us. Product ( incra, woodpecker and others) they are not answer and when I speak with
Banggood the answer is : how many free product you want ?
One minute something is $45 on BG next it's $23...
On some days the fishing is better than others. 😂
There is a better one made already it's call Incra Tinyt03. Oh and it's made in the USA. Sum Ting Wong Cap Tan
I believe the ruler is made of steel not aluminum。
Thanks, I believe it is some kind of steel alloy, but it reacts very slow on a magnet. So it is also a bit softer than that of the INCRA. That said. I think it is strong enough! And you have to be careful with this kind of T-rulers anyway, they are fragile.
@@HookedonWood it should be some kind of stainless steel then.
I really have to stop watching these videos. Every time I watch one of your reviews, I jump onto Aliexpress and buy something. I'm going broke, but my tool collection is getting bigger. Lol.
I used to buy a lot from Banggood but discovered they don't always honor the pricing on their website. I've been charged more for something because they raised the price after I placed my order. Because of this, I haven't ordered from them in over a year and have put them on my email spam list.
I do not have these experiences with Banggood. Look a bit of a strange policy to increase prices after you order! You sure there is not something els wrong?
@@HookedonWood I double checked the pricing because I had a copy of the original webpage showing the lower pricing.
Of course they will treat you well because you review their products. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, Aliexpress usually have better pricing anyway.
I really like your honest reviews though.
The intro music could be done in 5 seconds? 20+ is very annoying when watching several episodes.
Kind regards from the Netherlands
Adriaan
Younare absolutely right! Check my latest episode. I made it shorter because some suggestions like yours. Thanks for making me better😀👍
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One remark though: stainless steel is not magnetic, so if the magnet sticks to it, it cannot be stainless steel.
Are you sure!, I do not know much about this subject. But on the Incra is written Stainless steel and on that one the magnet sicks very good
I saw this link where you can read more about it.
www.magnets.com/blog/what-materials-do-magnets-stick-to.html
Whether stainless steel is magnetic or not will depend on the amount of nickel in the alloy.
4xx stainless steels are ferrous.
Please convince me this isn’t a ripoff of INCRA’s work.
so you are promoting counterfeit goods, or doesn't it apply when the name of the original product is missing.
Hi Fabian,
No counterfeit is when also the original name is on it. That said, I can name very much articles from well known brands that are almost look the same, bandsaws, table saws, rulers, fences, what do you think about plunge saw, they all look the same, festool, Makita, Mafell, but when a Chinese company comes with this kind of product it is counterfeit. I do a review about Chinese woodworking goods because they are certainly not all good. I have a lot of stuf from well known brands and I love them. But I also have some stuf from China. Mostly products that I do not use much but are very handy to have. I do not know when it is allowed to make almost the same products. I do not produce them ore sell them. I just make reviews so when people buy, I hope that they avoid buying those who are not good. All the pocket rulers from all the brands are the same, so why should this T-ruler be a copy. This T-ruler is in all the aspects different from Incra. The only thing they have in common is that the ruler is from an aluminium alloy and that looks the same as stainless steel and It has the shape of a T. The only thing that is exact the same is the scale of the mm.
incra didn't invent the t rule did they though ?.
The name "Incra" does not appear nor does any Incra logo so it is not a trade mark breach. Incra holds no patent on a t-ruler so it's not a patent breach. There is no copyright in this scale of numbers so it is not a copyright breach. Nobody buying this thinks they are buying Incra so it is not "passing off". There is no plausible way of calling this counterfeit. This is capitalism anyone is free to build a better or cheaper mousetrap.
Almost an incra rip off
Every ruler is almost the same, every square is almost the same and also, table saw, clamps, pointers, cycloon, plunge saws etc. Etc. But when they come from china it is a rip off
the bang good product is garbage......you compare it to incra?.......
Hi, why is it garbage? I try to do my reviews as neutral as possible. And I like Incra very much. I have a lot of incra tools. There are china tools I don’t like. But this ruler I like very much.
Chinese copy of an Incra Tools T-ruler... Buy the real deal for only a few dollars more and stop supporting the uninnovative copycat stuff.
Amen!
Hi Louie,
Thanks for your comments.
few dollars you say, in europe its around 50 dollars more for the incra. for the same thing really
@@breadjen : That's what you get for being socialist countries.. LOL!
Stop putting tariffs on American imports, and stop your nonsense taxes like VAT.
@@docfate Only when you will be ready to quit the SAE system! Oh, and by the way, if you need to work until you reach 80, it's your problem, congratulations😎🤣