How One Comment Can Take You Down A Rabbit Hole - The Truth Behind Logan | TRO
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- The Right Opinion: How One Comment Can Take You Down A Rabbit Hole - The Truth Behind Logan | TRO
0:00 - Intro
6:04 - Red Herring
12:56 - Hackerman
21:30 - Unprotected
38:51 - A Crooked System
47:38 - The Solution
Security online, it’s something that a lot of us value as a personal liberty, for our privacy, and our safety. In the last decade, security online has taken multiple steps forward, but as large platforms are taking steps to protect their users, hackers are never too far behind, always looking for methods to stir up trouble, whether that’s attempting to obtain user data, or merely hijack someone’s account for comedic purposes. Plenty of sites have encountered data breaches, it’s an unfortunate hazard that some are clearly ill-prepared for. However, as much as hackers obtaining user data justifiably causes concern on a macro basis, I think people are much more protective over the possession of their personal accounts.
Our personal accounts, regardless of size, or influence, often pertain great personal value to us, as a platform that represents our thoughts, feelings, and even our creative ventures, it’s a piece of us. That sort of thing can definitely be exemplified with one’s CZcams account, now of course many people create CZcams accounts for the mere purposes of commenting, subscribing, and following content, however for many people, a CZcams account allows us to express ourselves, and even if we’re projecting our content towards a large audience, it’s still a product which feels deeply intimate to us, which is why people care about others when they have their channels unnecessarily terminated or restricted. We like to think that all in all, CZcams, in spite of their flaws have a grip on keeping our accounts secure, however, when you look at their track record, this could be called into contention.
Over the last few years, many creators have reported their channels stolen, and subsequently used for less than dignified purposes, in fact, it seems to be an overwhelmingly common occurrence for many users. Now when you have so many channels on a website like CZcams, it seems inevitable that some accounts will be hacked, or stolen, but today we’re looking at an issue that transcends a few occurrences, and outlines a trend which appears pervasive on the platform, and encompassed by one account, which went by the name of Logan.
EDITING CREDITS/REFERENCES BELOW: More low key, hope you enjoy :)
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hello i just found your videos and channel i liked subbed and turned on notif, i like british youtubers
ok
:)
You are *always* first
Epic
Guys, I’m starting to think he didn’t actually want to be friends.
I know right? Something here’s fishy
Wanna be friends? :)
I agree, I’m starting to get a hunch that maybe he isn’t too friendly
@@jiggityjack8113 eh might just be me being paranoid
you sure he didn't? I always wanted a friend that hacks my channel and used it to promote their channel, that's what friends are for
Maybe the real scam was the friends we made along the way.
This comment is severely underrated
Damn that was actually pretty good. Kudos my guy
Made me chuckle, thanks man,
You made me laugh so you get a like. 🤣
We got a good one here bois
This would make a good sci-fi horror, not gonna lie. Imagine: A hyper-intelligent AI using biological technology to control strangers it interacts with, slowly growing its army of mindless humanoid robots.
Oh, fun. It's not like all of my nights are filled with nightmares as it is!
I read your comment in Donald Duck's voice
This is twitter
It will defintely be better than any horror movie nowadays.
So just. Zombies but with extra steps. Or like the nuerax worm from plauge inc but with extra steps.
To summarise: CZcams outsources their support team to untrained people with templates, rather than getting people with any experience to do it.
Right. And it's super frustrating because that damn company doesn't have to do that. They can easily have plenty of seasoned employees working there that can handle a jacked account in a day instead of someone having to spend actual months to find out their whole career has to be restarted or changed.
@@dustinmj29 but that would cost more money........ *and there's the problem*
@@Sonichero151 isn't youtube like a multi-billionaire company?
And before anyone says anything, I know capitalism isn't inherently bad entirely. Corruption is possible in any system, but in this current system there is A LOT of corruption
@@__Insanity_ hahaha; this is capitalism working as intended 😂😂😭
the fact this WASNT sponsored by some VPN company is surprising on another level.
Why? VPN wouldn't help anything that happens here from happening.
True
Zenytram Searom usually most of the right opinions videos are sponsored by vpn companies
@@victoriasnyder9120 Strange. I've never even noticed the script, yet I remember it from every other content creator.
No joke I thought his opening statement was going to lead to a sponsorship of some VPN.
They're training their employees to behave like robots, and to talk to people like they're robots too. CZcams Employees are literally a part of the algorithm.
Nah, bots can actually use correct grammar.
Become a robot or leave my company.
Hi zoro :D
the amazon effect
i feel sorry for the employees. it's probably quite overwhelming to work at such a massive tech company and they're being exploited as robots. youtube really, really needs to up their game
40:00 I just have to say - there is no customer service circumstance where "we're so happy you can express your feelings" will ever come across as anything but patronizing
That’s CZcams for you.
Couldn't have said it better. I feel like it's just a way to make the victim feel fake comfortableness, rather than actually solving the problem.
@@angelman906 m?dn
@@Renee-rw7un you respond to a comment 3 months ago with whatever that means…
yep
Meghan's struggle made me feel so frustrated and stressed and anguished. I want to sue youtube for emotional damages
ikr just for the stupid maze of emails
at this point people should just use decentralized youtube alternatives like lbry or odyssey
I agree, but listening to her speak is struggle in itslef. I wish TRO would just recap what happend instead of subjecting us to this
@@bbasil1312 Idk, i got what she meant pretty clearly
@@TheDiamondSlayer1 I think he means he finds the voice irritating, which I kinda agree with
The moral of the story:
Don't trust anyone on CZcams named Logan
Especially if they have the last name Paul
Or anyone who makes mario plush vids... Ugh...im shivering just thinking about it...
Just don’t trust logans
:(
Logan Mcvey
I do not trust you
It should honestly be appalling to youtube that their own emails read exactly like the icky spam emails my university trains us to avoid.
Yes! They shouldn't be so cheap that they have to turn to outsourcing. Amazon does the same shit.
Their emails are so unprofessional and so informal, it really bothers me. Every time I read an email from CZcams, I wonder where their employees were trained to write emails the way they do. My university would blanch at the sight of these gross emails and my professors would probably lose all respect for me if I emailed them like this.
Ay logan came back here
When she was going over the emails i was getting lots of red flags. Like it really felt like a scam, but no. CZcams is just incompetent
@@cowboybarbaryn1302 Right? If I received emails like this, I would immediately assume it's a scam. You know you're screwing up when people would mistake your legitimate email for a scam.
3:53 "this comment was made by a bot, *likely* incapable of developing a meaningful friendship"
I appreciate the low-key "maybe we're wrong about the AI, and they are actually just trying to learn how to be our friends" narrative that this leaves open.
Turns out Logan was just trying to figure out how to grow a friendship with a large amount of people, and someone targeted Logan's comments to steal the accounts that replied to Logan and now Logan is all alone :(
Logan, an unleashed and sentient AI who simply wanted to make friends. But through it's misunderstanding of the term "CZcams Friends" and Subscribers, figured it would be easier to make "friends" or subs by stealing accounts, hacking accounts, and shady dealings. An AI who just wanted to make friends became a massive scam to steal people's accounts and subscribers
Ta-da, I made a misunderstanding of the story and a concept into a basic idea for a story
@@__Insanity_ I for real want this made in the style of a sappy Hallmark channel movie, but it gets really dark in the middle as the AI is accidentally ruining peoples' livelihoods, only to turn around at the end and have everything get resolved and have a super cheesy happy ending. I think it's time the robots get redemption arcs that appeal to middle aged housewives.
@@RamadaArtist Maybe after they figure everything out about the AI's misunderstanding instead of destroying it, they shut it down... But when they figure out it's original intent "make friends" they change it's programming or it's definition of friends. Then it can finally make friends for real. And maybe they attempt to clone the AI and insert it and its new AI friend(s) into a closed system. Maybe one still public so it can interact with Humans. That way, it can make many friends, and have a few with them at all times in the form of fellow AIs
I'm absolutely astonished at the fact that Meghan was able to keep herself from swearing her head off in her videos regarding CZcams support, I would've lost it completely
Your editors are freaking god-tier.
bluELFsuma ikr
No, internet historians editor is
Agreed
fr they’re amazing
Lmao ikr
If someone sends me a "didn't found any" I'd immediately think it's not official. 😂
didn't found any
Yeah bro even though it looks sus we didnt found anything sus so....... Good luck 🤣🤣
d i d n t F O U N D a n y
yeah im deleting that email off rip and re emailing youtube
Exactly!!!!!!
TRO: talks about hacking and phishing
Also TRO: "I'll post the links down below"
Me: is this a test???
It's like a never-ending cycle, the current social media platform goes to shit, a new social media platform that somewhat cares for its creators appears and then it eventually goes to shit as well, risen and repeat.
Plot twist, the whole thing was created by someone’s parents as a ‘don’t talk to strangers’ PSA.
Logan fake, also gay
Edit: Oop, he deleted his comment. 😳
I actually wouldn't be surprised.
When that gets revealed, and THEY reveal themselves, *they WILL get either doxxed, or right-out lynched. Calling it*
This new season of Black Mirror is awful.
Plot twist, your right
Person: *asks to be friends*
The entire internet: So you have chosen death
Sends Captain Price to raid his place like in Clean House.
G filmer we get dirty so the world stay clean, that’s the mission 😎
wanna be friends though?
I've honestly always just assumed they were 7
@@pumpkinslu7675 same
"we're so glad you can express your feelings, thank you for sharing that with us"
that has got to be the best meme-version of 'talk to the hand' of this century lmao
A large youtuber getting their account compromised sounds terrifying. Imagine your livelihood getting stolen and the police (youtube) just gives an automated response.
"The gaps in professionalism that a legitimate company would never dare show"
"Hi, Alex"
"Didn't found anything"
At first I thought responces from CZcams support were made by impostors, but the reality is worse. Scammers act more professional than actual companies.
CZcams was The Impostor
Donovan Mahan nah
@@donovanmahan2901 red sus
That's how fakes work...
Seems Legit
BUT...
I guess in some ways, scam companies being unprofessional is kinda 5head
Imagine if there were another person just named Logan sincerely trying to make friends by commenting on people's videos who's upset by these shenanigans ruining everything for him.
That'd be very sad :'(
Lmaooo wholesome idea
F for every Logan (except the Paul)
My name is Logan... ;-;
LgnD2k3 RIP 😔
I was expecting a lot of comments that said: “Wanna be friends??,” not gonna lie.
Me too tbh
Honestly
"Wanna be fiends?"
Wanna be friends
Wanna be friends?
i like how megan's 2nd channel has her banner only have text that says *"didn't found any"*
This sounds like something out of a horror movie. He kills you and puts a robot in your corpse and makes your lifeless body dance for him.
why did i think of fnaf
@@samanthachevez1693 because thats essential fnaf
Sounds like a new type of necron flayer, let's call it the dancer
🧿👄🧿
@The quiet kid in your class
I keep seeing stuff about that person on CZcams, William Afton, and this girl named Clara or smthn? But like I have no idea where they’re from???
Apparently CZcams thinks a “careful investigation” is a small search.
They think it's just the first page on a google search
Not even a small search because a small search would have told them the channel was off
They just look at the channel and if it's there its all okay
want to be friends?
"So I did a quick google search and your channel is fine."
_"MY IQ LEVELS ARE DAMN HIGH!"_
Sounds like something a person with low IQ would say
My thoughts exactly
scrolled down to find this comment and like it xD "189 is damn high" it had me dying
Not to mention is said his IQ was higher than Einstein's lmao. By 9 points.
"I would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"
My IQ is 136 & i feel very awkward whenever it's relevant because it's 1 of few things I ahve to be proud of lol.!
Once someone told me "Well if yours is 136 mine must be 200!"
He was serious. Dead serious.
“For to much free time” homie I have 47 missing assignments that the extension for was due 2 days ago I’m literally in negative time
How is that possible?!
I can relate
Wh- how do people do this?
Thank hell I'm not the only one
Stop watching CZcams videos if you are legitimately that idiotic.
As Muta once said the greatest computer protection you can have is common sense.
Yep.
im assuming its mutahar from SOG cuz thats the only muta i know
To be fair who could have known that this initially benign comment was a hacker?
Oh, damn. A fellow muta fan
Isn't that curried DSP?
“edited by logan”
Oh God he’s here too
*scary music intensifies*
Wait, it’s all Logan?
always has been
the call is coming from INSIDE the house
*goes to McDonald to make a order*
Yea can i have uuuuuu...
*notices employee name tag*
OH NO...
Im nearly convinced that most email support from YT is a bot. The level of disconnect between the questions asked and the answers received has always cofused me greatly. Now that I saw this video it just confirmed my suspicions after dealing with them years ago when I started a channel.
I remember getting a virus on my phone once, whenever I visited sites like wikipedia I'd get redirected several times. I asked my boyfriend at the time if he was having any similar issues and he pointed out that that shouldn't be happening. So I went and deleted the apps I downloaded that day and I narrowed the possibility down to this one exercise app that I got. After I had deleted them, the website redirecting had stopped, but that was very scary.
If the FBI came in and said there is info in those "deleted" videos they need , I have a feeling those videos would somehow magically reappear.
Welp time to piss off the government so I can see my old cod videos again
or there's be something in the news about them getting raided/caught up in a massive federal suit after trying to fob the FBI off on their "perfect" automated system....
i genuinely suspect the latter- they're too consistently fucking up
Fr like, I agree-
HAJFJHASHJAJAHAHAJHAJHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHA so funny wow you genius madlad (sarcastic)
@@bigboi8743 are you like, 3 or something?
meghan's didn't found any was iconic. like it was a majorly shitty situation, but the didn't found any line was incredible.
Her performance was ✨
didnt found any
on her old channel, she replaced the header with a screenshot of "didn't found any" and then her about section says "Hi this is Alex formerly known as BootyDior" lol
Probably hiring some tech support scammers for this job lol coz they're the cheapest.
*Didn't found any!*
I watched that series I believe a couple of weeks after the 2nd part was uploaded...I think? and I was a bit surprised that her videos got used as an example for this video.
CZcams's terrible customer service would be hilarious if it wasn't so distressing.
ngl i SCREAMED when the intro to the “ a crooked system ” segment included the subtitle “ edited by *logan* ” omggggg
POV: *You are looking for a comment from a comment bot but are greeted by people surprised that this wasn’t sponsored by NordVPN.*
Why be friends when you can be mortal enemies.
Wanna be mortal enemies?
-edit: what have i done-
Wanna be mortal enemies?
Wanna be mortal enemies?
Wanna be mortal enemies?
Wanna be mortal enemies?
CZcams is still providing the same stellar professionalism we've come to expect.
I actually have a little bit of experience with youtube's terrible system myself.
I had a small channel (250~ subs) that started in 2016. I used my school's email account, so when I moved schools and my email account was deleted I lost all access to the channel.
I contacted CZcams multiple times because my personal email was the second owner of the channel, meaning that I could regain ownership. They had publicly stated that this was a feature and, after I had realized using my school email was a stupid idea, I did it before the account was deleted. I gave up trying to get my channel back after about a year of attempted contact.
One day, I'm logging into CZcams and I notice something. After almost 5 YEARS my account was back. It took them FIVE YEARS to respond to a small creator. I'm so glad that I didnt have an attachment to that channel because if I did that would've been absolutely heartbreaking. Oh and not to mention, they didn't even contact me to tell me my old account was back. Not even a template or spam email, trust me I checked everywhere.
CZcams sucks, and that's one of the main reasons why I gave up on becoming a CZcamsr. now I only have this account to comment and subscribe.
“We are so happy you can share those feelings with us”
*proceeds to ignore their argument*
Damn CZcams, that sounds like something I’d do to my siblings when I won’t let them have sugar after brushing their teeth.
"We are so happy you shared your feelings but stop dwelling in the past, we need options".
That b**ch, if she wanted her to stop complaining, she just would have said so.
*gasp* you monster!
I got ready to start skipping forward when you started talking about internet security and hackers... I thought for sure I was about to hear a NordVPN advertisement.
I can't believe she managed to talk so much about this without crying, I wouldve been beyond frustrated
Meghan's problem has nothing to do with me but damn I feel like I'M the one about to cry from frustration
Yeah I out loud, in my kitchen mind you, announced “CZcams what the fuck” and the specter of CZcams laughed at me.
Dude I want to subscribe to her just to help her out
Yeah I know, I just went to her channel to subscribe.
As an empath, i was ready to scream about her story, such bullshit
@@zalenstar oh boy, now I'm not ready
“They lied when they said wanna be friends so idk they could be lying about this” I felt that
Lmao
i said "sure" but i didn't sub and i am so glad i didn't
tori nelson i saw that comment like 5 times
God I would have lost my shit if I was in Megan's place. When I heard that "and didn't found any" I would have just quoted that and sent it back because like? How does something like that slip past the team?
CZcams is made up of three things: bots, better bots, and susan
Dafuq is Susan?
Ceo of youtube, i think
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando Ohh lmao
@@JayJay5244 tbh i knew when i wrote it but have since forgotten
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando you have forgotten something you actively wrote about in 2 months? Damn homie..
i cant be the only one who thought the beginning was an ad read for norton vpn
I literally left the room to get a drink because I assumed that’s what was coming lol
Yes, you arent, two of the top comments talk about the same thing
The fact that CZcams's internal teams is such a gigantic joke is no joke.
It's the same as any outsourcing, it seems. Take the job to a country where English is less than common, find people who know *just enough* of it to give essentially canned responses, then have your question never answered by the agent because they have a really poor understanding of the language they're expected to do customer service in.
And it's not that I'm one of these, "YOU BETTER SPEAK ANGLISH!" types, it's just that, customer service work requires a pretty solid understanding of the language you're working in and the outsourcing of a lot of customer service teams to countries where the agents don't speak the language...it seems to have the effect of creating a large body of agents only capable of answering the most basic questions, which is not the majority of customer service work, especially for something like CZcams's teach team who's supposed to MAKE SURE YOUR ACCOUNT ISN'T STOLEN
One giant loophole
John Howlett but the their name is internal meaning that they aren’t outsourced company from another country that don’t speak proper English but actual follow American who is part of CZcams/google since google own CZcams.
People don't seem to realize that thousands of videos are uploaded to CZcams every second. Of course the CZcams team can't keep track of everything.
John Howlett internal meaning existing or occurring within an organization. So CZcams internal team mean that people’s within CZcams organizations hierarchy not only couldn’t type proper formal English in this situation but also they ignored their own senses and common sense and logic and reasoning and instead relied on a template even when the situation is obvious and you don’t really need a template in this situation, really showing lack of critical thinking when they blindly follow a template to the letter instead of trusting their own senses and the fact that they are constantly taking breaks and vacations multiple times in a row while there are problems that are in need of fixing meaning constantly limited number of staff are actually working on fixing the problems and it seem they can’t do basic grammar and they can’t think for themselves. It is quite worrying.
Geez, this hits home for me
I remember around a year ago I got the “wanna be friends?” comment on a recent video I made, and thank goodness I decided to look into the channel and reported them. Seeing this video really scared me by making me question “what could’ve happened?” simply because as a small creator I’m often plagued in the comment sections by scammers and bots alike, I just swiped this one under the rug with the rest, I hope there’s a few of you out here who can relate. Seeing as I take a lot of pride in my work but only really do it as a hobby, I would be devastated if I lost all my videos; so this video was quite jarring but also very informative.
Once I got a comment from a channel called "Trap Drip" saying something super vague like "very nice" followed up by "wanna' be CZcams friends?". It was very clear to me that they weren't actually interested in being my friend and that they just wanted me to subscribe to them, but I wanted to look at the channel anyway because I was still curious. But before I could do so, I accidentally clicked off of the notification drop-down menu, which seemed to erase the comment from existence. I couldn't find the comment anywhere. So then I looked them up to get to their channel that way, but videos about the their malicious intent popped up instead.
Man that editor named Logan must feel odd hearing his name in all of this.
What if theyre the same guy 😮
@@Dauerglotzer123 uh oh, hacked through editing coming up next? :D
It is weird hearing your name repeatedly, but never being directed at you.
Logan Knight I could believe that, yea
For how much effort people put into these fake channels, they could’ve made a real channel and have made more money that’s legit
That takes much more time.
Mufat it takes much more effort though to hack into people’s channels, steal them or buy them, and use them to harvest views and subs just to sell them. Not to mention that it isn’t even enjoyable- make a CZcams channel about something you’re interested in :/ then at least you have fun
Yeah, but still it takes way more time.
Its also not even guaranteed that you channel will be big.
I think it’s a matter of what your skill set is vs the mindset “why would I build myself up when someone else would just break me down, might as well just make the quick buck”
Really sad honestly
It's wild to me that after a youtube channel reaches a certain size (say, 100k) the content creator doesn't just sign a contract of employment with youtube to 1) get access to YT's employee benefits such as healthcare and 2) be better protected BY CZcams, so that youtube doesn't lose the people who make them the most money.
Because they're not employees, they're partners.
According to their Monetization when it comes to taxes and whatnot. They are considering Self-employed. A lot of bigger Content Creators end up incorporating. Because taxes through a corporation can cost less vs being an individual. Also as pointed out in the other comment, they don't work for CZcams in a traditional sense. It is more of a partnership or contract work.
You know it’s not uncommon when receiving multiple emails from the same Customer Service Rep that they aren’t actually the same person, they simply use the same name and email address.
This leads to the person responding seeming like they haven’t been paying attention/ignoring you but they haven’t been - they simply don’t know the full course of events.
Then they need to read the full history of emails or keep better records. Continuity of service is important.
I wanted to comment wanna be friends so bad but it’s like saying a death joke at a funeral
Wanna be friends? :)
Well Logan is just one of those wannabe friends. ;)
@Logan Uh Oh...
Logan uhhh...
@Logan pp
Sounds like CZcams has gotten so big, it's moving like a government.
Which is the point most people r/wooosh on!
BIG GETS SLOW!
Small towns work things out quickly
A megacity will have to have half the population working on it to SEE THE PROGRESSION!
@@Ramsey276one Agh big mood, finally someone spoke the truth... Fo real if I had the money I'd buy CZcams. I'm only 21 and am only a small CZcamsr, but the second I marry an insanely rich man I plan to buy at least part of it. Not that I even like rich people...
@@Ramsey276one Yeah, it even reflects that in nature, it's no coincidence that big animals move slower than smaller ones, the bigger you get the more problems you face.
Giin they will NEVER improve on their customer service because they need us to be in a perpetual state of lowered expectations to prepare us for expanding automation. A lot of this is usually not a human response, humans who do respond remain on same script machine learning uses, Improving the human interactions will give us higher expectations and we will be less willing to settle for sht service in the future. That’s what’s happening here.
Always has been🚶🔫🚶
Imagine my horror when it said that the "A Crooked System" segment is edited by 'Logan'.
If CZcams's supposed review team can't even be thorough enough to proofread their emails for typos, how can they be trusted to thoroughly determine whether an account is hacked or not?
I remember when I first got this comment I deleted immediately just because I don't know how to handle someone I don't know randomly asking to be friends. My anti socialness saved me.
Yo same
Same bud. The comment rose red flags and loud alarms. Went to their channel and saw that their sub count was missing and it didn't help that 2 other comments also said " wanna be friends?" Reported and Blocked at that moment
@@Nelkami I only decided to investigate after I got the comment a second time, and yeah, things were super fishy.
asocial* anti social is related to a disorder
@@mcplumpkin6191 language is for Communication if you understood what he meant it wasn't wrong.
I genuinely can’t believe that Meghan was dealing with actual CZcams representatives. The responses she got doesn’t seem like the quality of work you’d expect from one of the largest companies in the world.
They seem much more like the disjointed rambling of someone who doesn’t understand English beyond a kindergarten level.
The company I work at has an offshore team that does customer service, and I've seen them say worse things. Leadership forced them to download Graanmarly and it barely helped lol
T N It's barely helped you either with that major misspelling of Grammerly XP Good try though!
Just a trillion dollar company executives using cheap overworked offshore labor until AI takes over everything including their own jobs.
@@Roadent1241 I was obviously referring to the Grammerly sister company ran by grandmothers for grandmothers
@@Tink00 Please excuse me then, sir/madam/being of other configuration, for being so uneducated.
I'll be so happy when a new actually functional video sharing app comes up so we can all move there and leave CZcams to die
That ISNT another Tiktok/Musicaly/Vine! Aka more then 1 minute videos.
Issue is that these days, any competition will be crushed to death by bad press. Google goes out of its way to twist narratives and strangle prospective competition in its crib- and if that doesn't work? They'll appeal to the masses using identity politics.
It's how they operate.
Man. Remember when their slogan was "Dont be evil"? Those were the days.
Holy crap, that 6:11 Fredrik Knudsen jazz made me think for a second that this was going to be an insane crossover, but oddly enough it is still insane
39:15 "edited by Logan"
M. Night Shyamalan: "I did not see that coming."
Literally everyone: “CZcams, the best thing you can do for creators is-“
CZcams: “Got’cha, say no more, say no more, we appreciate your feedback.”
Also CZcams: *proceeds to do the exact opposite, if anything at all*
A bunch of the "friend" comments showed up in my spam box instead of the comment box... CZcams actually did something right for once! I never fell for people wanting to "befriend" me without collabing... That's a yikes from me sir, similar to a bad Craigslist reply!
IceBetweenEyeliner I got one a while back, before it was even known, and it just seemed so sketch, maybe its my social anxiety, but it just felt fake, glad I never interacted, dodged a bullet. 😅
Midori Sithposts They will NEVER improve on their customer service because they need us to be in a perpetual state of lowered expectations to prepare us for expanding automation. A lot of this is usually not a human response, humans who do respond remain on same script machine learning uses, Improving the human interactions will give us higher expectations and we will be less willing to settle for sht service in the future. That’s what’s happening here.
There are so many moments where I was thinking “that’s why this video is sponsored by express vpn” then he didn’t say it
TRO,
_You_ are the rabbit hole that I love travel down. I have watched _hours_ of your takes on a myriad of people that I have never heard of.
Everybody gangsta till Logan starts breaking into the mainframe
I STRONGLY DISAGREE! Being as famous as I am on CZcams, I know that it gets hard to read every comment I get. I try my best, but I am just so famous, that I can't do it much longer. Sorry, dear mal
@@AxxLAfriku begone bot
*aggressively types on analog keyboard*
I ‘ M I N
epic
GASP
Saying that he has a personality like a grapefruit is offensive to grapefruit
Wanna be friends?
Wanna be dead? Me too
wanna be friends?
While that is an amazing insult. I propose "Your personality is as bland as Ohio"
Grapefruit is so fucking gross I can't swallow it, I gag and my body pretty much fuckin rejects it
First thing I did after watching like the first few minutes of this video was go to EVERY single channel I’m subscribed to and check their video section... one of the scariest things about this is I’ve encountered a few channels that said they don’t have any videos when I went to the video section.
everybody gangsta till CZcams forgets how to do their jobs
YT doesn’t give a care just like they didn’t found any.
All they care is $$$$$ nowadays , they even let ads disguised as trojan.
Name in Progress they didn’t found any 😂
Name in Progress maybe
They didn't found any reason to help anyone
@@chenchen6150 nowadays???
Skipped a few minutes thinking it was a sponsor
Spoiler: it was not
Haha
Right
Same lol
Gang
Chipmunk Urine if you had waited all of 15 seconds you would've realized it wasn't.
THIS is what I call quality work, thank you Sir ! (You are using a bunch of advanced structures, I'm learning a lot from your videos, I'm preparing for C1 English exam, so really, it helps a lot, thank you for your work !)
I remember watching all of her videos in March, jeez it’s even more infuriating when you’re listening to it for HOURS and nothing gets done
For such a large company, CZcams's uncaringness is expected, but its unprofessionalism due to that uncaringness is simply not acceptable.
Yeah
How much do you wanna bet that some people at CZcams are being bribed to ignore things?
This comment imitates the style of TRO.
It happens when you focus too much on the money side of the company instead of the target audience due to the lack of competition or connection with their audience/users/customers. Basically, this platform is kinda fucked. Someone please take over it or something.
"Look for the gaps in professionalism, that a legitimate company would never dare show." Right, cause CZcams was so professional.
You make a very good point lmao
CZcams's responses in the Megan story were so braindead I started to think that it was the hackers pretending to be youtube.
Idk but the fact that those accounts used to be real peoples accounts gives me the same vibe as that "Grimm" in season 8 of RWBY. It creeps me just as much as when i saw that scene and just as much as the characters were in that scene.
CZcams is becoming the next Tumblr, they're just taking the long way around
Bianco.tv is so much better
Same for Instagram
I thought that would be twitter??
no, tumblr committed suicide, youtube is drowning in the rain because its too stupid to look down.
@@comyuse9103 nice analogy
Rip to all the Logan’s who aren’t bad people.
I digress, every Logan I've met is a total twat :)
@@breachtones there are a few nice Logans, they are just rare.
The only good Logan is Logan from Big Time Rush.
@@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops and logan from marvel aka wolverine
I mean if your name is Logan just don’t mention that in your username
Meghan has the patience of a saint. How she manages to be funny and sarcastic about this, deserves a medal! Or, you know, her channel back.
12 hour shifts suck but these videos are truly great. I love getting viewpoints from a more analytical standpoint and making my own ideas. Thank you. Genuinely
Okay WOW thank you so much for including my channel and making this video. I was shocked to see myself (2:10). I was devastated when I lost my original channel and everything that happened to me was related to what you talked about. THANK YOU for bringing this to the light, I want other creators to be aware of this!!
Absolutely no one in real life ever..
“Wanna be friends”
kids be like:
"wanna be friends???? :DDDD"
Me never having any friends wanna be friends
Actually my step sister did this once in high school.
We had just moved into the neighborhood and she walked up to a random stranger sitting on her porch and said "Wanna be my friend?"
The girl was uncomfortable and I was mortified.
That's how 6 year olds make friends
This is why I don’t like people.
Welp, I’m nervous to go on CZcams now. Good thing I enabled 8 step, DNA bioencryption on my email.
I'm trying real hard to restrain myself from leaving a "Wanna be friends?" comment.😂👉🏽👈🏽😅
Wanna be friends?
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13:15 wow I'm famous
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No one likes this is the comment like police
Make 420 comments
"my dog died"
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@Kokichi Homo why are you posting a link about music
Korporal K. Reep bots really ruin everything huh
@@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie Some might even say a twat with too much free time
Korporal K. Reep damn bro, we got a new Justin Y on our hands
I worked in a call center for a financial institution a few years ago, and there were many many calls about password resets and account recovery. I was just lucky that we had knowledgeable supervisors and a very competent fraud team that had a lot of experience.
Many times I would tell the account holder to ignore emails unless they were from our domain and that we would only do certain measures of security. It was especially common with the elderly, since they tended to be less tech savvy.
We also had many classes that showed us what to look for in our emails. We had suspicious emails sent to us by our training team to make sure we knew what to look for. If we weren't sure about an email, any supervisor was more than happy to take a look at it and answer our questions.
I left the job because of burn out, but I'm glad the people there were amazing.
Just found this Channel, love the content and video format/style, keep it up my dude
Thanks for the shoutout, our channel and several other channels owned by our members (TBBBAP included) got hacked at the beginning of the year, and even with our platform it took months and months of pestering CZcams through email and on twitter to get anything fixed. We've only recently gotten our content restored and our value in the Algorithm took a huge hit for the period when we didn't have control of our channel. Just trying to keep putting out regular content and get things back to normal now.
your channel looks interesting idk if it’s good i subbed anyways hope your vids are good :)
There is no evidence that Meghan Rienks' channel was hacked. Perhaps someone guessed her password. Or perhaps her laptop/phone was. Guessing a password is not hacking. Hacking is exploiting a security vulnerability. CZcams's defences are far too powerful for the vast majority of people to exploit.
However for the purpose of this comment I will concede that her channel was hacked. That is to say someone was able to find a weakness in CZcams and exploit this weakness to gain access to Meghan Rienks' account.
It is also very clear that CZcams is not nearly useless in their attempt to communicate and restore stolen accounts.
However I DO NOT feel bad that Meghan Rienks lost her content. CZcams makes no promise that. CZcams is not a data archive service. It is a video streaming service.
If you are using CZcams to backup your data that is YOUR problem. Not CZcams's problem. CZcams is a free service. They owe you nothing. They make no promise to archive your data. And they make no promise to continue business. CZcams could shutdown tomorrow and there is nothing you can do about it. It's a private company. So why the fuck should they do anything other than what the owners want.
Do you like people coming to you and telling you what you can and cannot do with your business and assets. I am guessing no. So who the fuck do you think you are telling CZcams what they can or cannot do,.
If you need data archiving then you should seek a paid service that archives data. Or just archive your own data. There is NO EXCUSE as to why Meghan Rienks did not purchase hard drives or SSD and back up her data or pay for a data arching service.
Had she backed up her videos, there would be no reason for this sob story.
TL:DR Meghan Rienks cried because she FAILED to back up her data.
If CZcams required monetized channels to set a secret, one-use recovery key, that would solve a whole lot of issues. Then the creator just has to keep the key secure and they can always get their channel back by proving the channel belonged to them with the key. Some crypto wallets and big corporations do this and I wish it was a more prevalent system.
I agree, that would be smart. That could be super easy too.
Google Authenticator does exactly that. Steam has a similar feature (Steam Authentication Key).
Lol what a simple fix for such an infuriating problem...youtube needs to do better jfc
I'm pretty sure even instagram has those these days
@@MrBrezelwurst Most apps/social media platforms have that now.
I had Tom comment on one of my Live Streams, and he seemed nice. My Dad had done the Live Stream and I ended up Privating It. Thankfully, I thought nothing of it and didn't click on the channel. I'm glad I didn't have information sold.
I've watched this video three times and I still can't figure out the complexity of this hacking/selling/commenting/parading as other channels thing...
Mugcup: avoid ANY email with gaps and professionalism that a reputable company wouldn’t be caught DEAD with
CZcams: 👀👀👀
what's youtube's email?
They didn't found any gaps
TheJunnutin well played
At the begining I was think man she's a bit angry, just a few minutes later I am thinking. Damn she is way too calm, CZcams's response team are dense like bricks
Hey, You Tube's just doing its best to help scam artists in India rehabilitate by providing them with new jobs...
you mean dense like a blackhole?
@@theapexsurvivor9538it’s not India bud, more like Nigeria. I forgot to let you know that your distant uncle died and left you 500 million dollars....
The production quality of TRO videos is so nice
I started watching this while doing my art homework... And I watched the whole thing...
I don't know why i find the most random videos to watch but this was quite entertaining.