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There's a difference between "we personally find porn bad because of our religious beliefs" and "porn is evil because god says so and a *real woman* shouldn't ever even *think* about a man in that way, that's bad"
@@Flapjack505 we know, don't worry ahah , there are twats in every large community, you don't have to feel ashamed on their behalf :> it's just too bad these twats lead to the persecution of millions of people :')
And it’s also different from ‘porn is bad not because some imaginary magical being says so, but because it directly contributes to increased demand of the sex trafficking of women and children’
@@sh4li8i6 well, they view anything regarding the LGBT community or other things related as "sins" so they don't acknowledge their existence. Like a devious behavior but not something that "exist"
I am legit from a religius school , with NUNS actual nuns giving us CLASSES , we showed them this girls and ohhhhh boi they did not like them lol , they said and I quote " they have a cultish mob mentallity , you see someone like this in real life , run the other way ok" lmaoo
@@SuicideRedemption y’know, even in people I’ve met irl have had vastly different experiences going to catholic schools. Goes to show that even catholic school staff are as varied in quality as public, I suppose
@@SuicideRedemption I guess catholic schools are a mixed bag. I attended two in which there were a few gay couples, and one I'm pretty sure FTM trans person, no one batted an eye or discriminated in the second one, the first one I was too young to pay attention. Then, I went to another one where the priests teaching us would literally say shit like "God will punish all gays with eternal hellfire" who would get furious even at an implication that you questioned such a standpoint.
Pretty sure this is a church culture thing. I can't sit near a lot of people during sermons because they go "mm...mm-hm...mmh" the whole time. Like they need to actively participate instead of just listening quietly.
so like little story that ik only people who have replied or people scrolling through comments like me will see. so i’m agnostic and i was friends with a girl who acted very similarly to girls defined. she was constantly at church and wasn’t a good friend bc of how religious she was. one night i was on the verge of suicide and i just wanted to not be alive and she kept pushing me into believing in god. she kept saying put my trust in god. it got to a point where anytime i had a problem as big or small as it was her solution was god. for all those who don’t know what agnosticism is. it’s not that i don’t completely reject god. i just need some type of proof and going through everything i have i just don’t have proof to say he exists. it just got really toxic and she always judged my past. it was little things like the fact i dyed my hair bright red. she didn’t know i did it for my friend who had cancer and i cut it and gave it to a wig maker so my friend felt more comfortable. overall it was so toxic bc the night i attempted my friend woke me up and i purged everything outta my system. only three of my friends knew including her and she made me feel so horrible about my decision that i just got so depressed for the next couple months. eventually my friend group rejected her bc of how she treated me (my other two friends were declared christians so i always got most of the verbal beatings from her). it was just an experience i never wanna experience again
I've notice that! It's like a misogyny thing. Like a way of infantilizing women. Like how some men will say females instead of women to dehumanize them, they'll say girls instead of women to make them seem less competent or adult. Weird
chiming in from a fundamentalist background (i used to attend fundamentalist church services with my family, i’m on my own way to find my truth now)… this definitely is a misogyny and fundie-culture thing- at least that i noticed in my former church. women were never referred to as women unless part of a ministry, instead they’d use ‘girls’ or ‘ladies’. only other women would actually say ‘the event for women’ or ‘women’s ministry’ while the men would say ‘girl’s outreach’ or something like that.
My sweet little old great grandma born in early 1900 told me way back in the 80's that the only good thing about saving sex for marriage is that you will never know how good it could really be if you end up with a boar... She was a firecracker. She also told me to find a man who cooks and knows how to iron his own shirts, and I did just that. She taught me well.
@Dick White I'm sure she can, what they're talking about is a guy who can contribute and not pretend to be an idiot to get out of helping around the house and stuff.
I'm a Christian woman, but hearing them repeatedly talk about things such as fearing God makes me very uncomfortable. I think people like this need to be very careful about the way they frame their conversations around religion-- it's not hard to start sounding a bit pompous and "holier than thou". I believe religion is a very personal experience between yourself and God. So instead of putting your energy into telling other people how to act, you should focus on bettering yourself and your own faith/relationship with God.
Isn't fearing god like old testament stuff like you know that was the god that was like I'll kill your whole family and cattle to test your faith or flood the world to teach a point whilst the New testament god was like peace and all loving and the new testament is really the only part Christians should be following cause you know Jesus?
@@danielshore1457 Nowadays, most Christians (myself included) tend to see it as more respect, like that you would give a good father who loves you or even a trusted teacher, rather than the classic meaning of fear like you said. That kind of view of fear of God is mainly an older one, though the idea does still persist in some Christian circles. Sorry if it doesn't make sense or is wrong anyway, I'm just going by my experiences and beliefs as a Christian and beliefs I've seen in other young Christians
Kathleen KMC I’m fine with people talking about religion on the internet. But as a Christian, it’s just the way that they’re trying to convey the religion is kinda too harsh. Like they’re trying to get people to convert out they’re coming on too harsh or smthn
The victim shamed & mocked Marilyn Monroe bc she committed sui**cide in chapter 2 of their book. They glossed over her childhood of her being ra***ped, her mentally unstable mother being hospitalized/unable to care for her, her going from foster home to foster home. "Had she just lived a biblical life she would be alive. If fame, money, looks are so great then why did she ki*ll herself?" There's soo much more if you actually look into them. I reccomend Jimmy Snow's coverage of them where he covers their hideous true selves.
@@dab4857 a broken person lives a complete different life than someone who has is all put together 😂 these clown girls are hypocrites themselves. Good day.
just because rthey don't have any style doesnt mean they dont have money. You'd be surprised at how many well off people have no or poor fashion sense.
They are very well off. They once tried to say they were poor because their parents GAVE one of them a car that was like 10 years old instead of new. Their parents own several businesses, the own big, nice houses & they love to talk about how they 'walked away' from modeling careers because Jesus. Which is fine, but not everyone is in a place to just turn down work without yaknow, starving. They consantly are asking for money & selling stuff at crazy prices they can't justify. They like to travel out of state to buy thrift store clothes poor people like me actually need, only to mark it up 500% & sell it online. Plus on their mom's side their great-grandpa was NAZI MAYOR who owned a giant villa in Austria. Bethany & her husband went & visited his grave & the family home while waxing nostalgic on social media about the 'good old days' when nazi-great-gpa ran the town & how glad they were that the house was still in the family. Gross. I have family that were Gypsy refugees, bet they had houses they wanted to keep as well, but that's a whole other thing. They remind me alot of Classically Abby, they often say feminism=bad because they think that's why women feel pressure to work. I feel pressure to work because I enjoy not starving & sleeping indoors. The live so high above normal they have no idea what motivates real women. You don't have to be a billionaire to be incredibly naive about socio-economic realities I guess.
He isn't wrong, it is insane to mash two bolts together. Using a nut and a bolt is the only way. That's what my brother's boyfriends says, and he's a builder, so he should know.
From what I know of the religion, “fearing the Lord” in the Bible doesn’t mean to actually fear him. It just means you should revere him above everything else. There are lots of weird words like that in the bible
Ducklingscap That's true but they're being hypocritical since they're telling girls to 'dress modestly' otherwise they're 'asking for attention'. Girls wearing whatever clothes they want is also a way of expressing themselves, not just to look good for other dudes.
Ok but the girl defined boyfriend on the far left looks like he thinks even waiting for marriage is too soon for sex. He looks like he thinks they should wait until their 80th anniversary for sex.
Wow! Schooling women on what’s actually beautiful, as defined by the Bible, while they sit there in a full face of make up, nails done and trendy clothes on...
Even that argument falls flat. Like if god is really there and all living as people say, then surely he forgives you for not knowing when he didnt provide you with any proof while you were alive 😂😂😂 According to them, god is passive aggressive lol
@@kamilareeder1493 ? I mean.. believing means to have faith without any proof. That's the point. Having proof means having knowledge, which is like the opposite of believe
@@HinaTheBlue I mean I guess, but idk I hear some people phrase more in terms of belief, I grew up jewish so I feel like people always phrased a relationship with god more as a student/teacher thing rather than being based solely on belief . But I see what you mean
It genuinely scares me how they deliberately start a video with psychological manipulation (ie. the fallacy of saying something you agree with like perception of beauty in media is buggered which primes you to accept more extreme beliefs they espouse) to try and hook their viewers into believing their madness
Actually I watch girl defined reaction videos specifically by formerly religious people as a cathartic process of overcoming my fundamentalist upbringing. I was raised in purity culture which paints women in such a bad light, like virginity equals worth and women should aspire to be "helpmates" not individuals. Girl defined isn't saying anything new and their platform is designed to appeal to and draw in young women viewers who are seeking advice for adolescence and identity issues. So the reaction videos are kind of like a buffer between the toxicity of girl defined's message, humerously refuting their rhetoric. I find it cathartic. I wish I had reaction videos to the radical religious messages of my youth.
That’s something I’ve seen a lot of. I know Jimmy Snow (Mr. Atheist) was brought up in a strict religious household and he’s talked about how harmful that upbringing has been, even after he left. A lot of people who respond to that Jehovah show are like that too, people who were former members of the religion as children and as adults describe it as a cult-like vibe.
Christians have been straying from God and following what non Christians are doing since the beginning of time. It is possible that that is what they are referring to rather than the general "going against societal norms", but idk.
Does america even have any form of counter culture? It certainly isn't being liberal or conservative (since most counter cultures don't have their own news stations and aren't part of the culture as a whole).
as someone who grew up religious, they’re also just absolutely archetypal “Christian girls.” like i know ten people who are exactly like them, and there are multiple times one of them has been like “wanna grab coffee!?” with this exact fun & light vibe, with some intense “i need to save your soul” subtext.
Talking about feminism whilst strongly advocating for a system written by highly patriarchal men 2000 years ago without a shadow of self-awareness is the definition of irony.
@@wrappedaroundmyfinger i is illegal by Islamic (the caliphate) law to be gay in any Islamic country, at best you will be forced to have gender reassignment surgery, at worst you are thrown of sky scrapers. in Islam a woman is by the very law inferior to a man. and this is in current year. how on earth is Christianity worse than Islam?
Peter Lock Bolvig you are not wrong here but one should aknowlege that many people here strive for equality in our society. And ours happens to be based on christianity. You can always point to others and say „they are doing more terrible stuff than we so we don‘t have to look at our own flaws“. Do you see my point here? Even though a lot of the christian society has undergone modernization, many fundamental christians will still condem behaviour or laws that are nowadays widely accepted. Look at russia, a christian country where homosexuality is still punishable (and sometimes gay people just „disappear“) and womens rights are not upto the standarts as in europe or the states. Fundamental cheistians troughout europe and the americas don‘t put women equal to men as in „listen to your husband, you should be a homemaker and a childmaker“, because the bible states that women are lesser beings. many lgbt+ people from these fundamental christian groups suffer greatly due to the identity chrisis they have to go trough or they are completely shunned. Also taking away the right of women to decide over their own body is based on christian ideas as one can see in the „pro-life“ discussions currently ongoing in the states. It is by all means not a black and white discussion and my argument here is of course leaned into the extreme but it‘s nevertheless a counterargument and i hope it does give some insight in why some people in the western society are so oical against christianity.
The way you explained how they're not countercultural just because they're not necessarily mainstream or belonging to a majority belief was so great. It's something I've felt when I hear people say things like that, but couldn't quite figure out how to verbalize.
As a person who previously religious, I find two things troubling: 1) GirlDefined assumes that one is inherently going to become bad if they step out line with religion in any way whatsoever. This mindset really freaked with my head, making me thing that I was destined for a life of hell because I thought watching Johnny Sins was a good way to use my lonely times. (Spoiler: I am not a coke addicted hooker. Thanks mom.) 2) The broader Christian community is so fear-mongering . They create a bubble of thought instead of giving you any tools to defend yourself from the true evils of the world. Instead of telling you how to avoid sexual harassment, they tell you "you shouldn't have been in a situation where you could have been harassed in the first place". Instead of teaching you to speak up, they teach you to "obey your elders". This creates a horrid dynamic where quite frankly, you're setting people up not the explore things for themselves and stripping them of their problem solving capabilities. But then again. This thoughts are my own.
From your first point they think people become bad if they step out of their definition of "Christianity", because am sure the wont acknowledge other religion.
Your second point is why a lot of kids feel so terrified to tell leaders in their church/their own parents about sexual misconduct held by other leaders because they’re considered guilty of sinful acts.. which is so damn dangerous. They get away with it for so long because the act of sex is so taboo, impure, and we never were educated in how to defend ourselves from sex that is actually wrong. I was sexually abused by a church leader and didn’t come out with it until recently. When I did tell them, who hadn’t gone to church since my abuse, they turned it so it wasn’t their fault and blamed me for ruining my abuser’s covenant of marriage and I should be ashamed of myself. I ruined their relationship with God.. being a sexy little 15 year old girl who was his student…? They’re all fucked in the brain regarding sex and the inherent power dynamic that older men have over the youth by talking about such vulnerable things with them and forming their minds to become easy targets for such abuse.
@@amandasantana5725 thats actually scarily close to what happened to me. My parents are both very religious and have never taken my story to a more higher place than the church’s senior pastor, thus no one in the church knows what happened to me or a few other girls at church, and on top of that, that pastor is still at that church.
Funny how they claim it isn’t “lady like” for you to experience anything that can happen to make you learn” but WILL claim what is lady like due to “gods followings Last time I checked is that god loves all no matter what you do... Certain types of Christians can have a certain idea on how you should live your life as a person but can guilt trip you in the kind of way to the point of where there isn’t too much freedom and maturity for you to learn the mistakes and grow. I wouldn’t say all but some do.
•••••• li4nn3.5iu •••••• Exactly. I’m Christian, but I know that, as humans, we aren’t perfect. Girl Defined is such a twisted idea of how to teach Christianity. The goal of finding Jesus and accepting him isn’t about walking on eggshells and beating yourself up about anything bad you do. It’s about accepting the fact that you’ve sinned, asking for forgiveness, and moving on to try and avoid those same mistakes. Even without the Bible, humans have a moral compass. We know right from wrong, so trying to teach it to a person is already a stupid concept. Edit: No longer Christian since writing this, but still applies
Me either. I was scared shitless of nuns and god for a very long time . Even though my parents taught me a loving and non judging god I spent a lot of time at my dads parents house who were extremely Irish catholic which is all about fear and guilt ( they charged later in life but through my informative years they really impacted me). Every Sunday I was petrified to go to church that’s finally my parents stood up to them and I was no longer forced to go. I had a prayer book and spoke with “god” every night and ask him all sorts of questions I never got answers to. When I got older I researched the Bible and made me hate the Christian god more and more . I am trying to get more spiritual because I do believe their are “gods “ and maybe a head honcho . Anyways I will never understand feeling safe while being in fear .
when people say "fear god" they dont mean fear as in "ah I'm scared" they mean fear as respect don't know why they didn't just say "respect" in the bible, but hey-ho
@@tiernanhalvey7758 Yeah, but it's a respect based out of fear. Christians don't respect their God because they think he's kind and loving, they respect him because they're terrified of the repercussions of not respecting him. It's basically a mainstream and modernized version of "leader by strength" and not "leader by capability".
There was a lemon demon background line from his Ancient Aliens song that I find sums it up. I am paraphrasing here but "Better evil gods than no gods".
Tiernan Halvey Probably because it’s been translated like 5 times over with the first half written in Hebrew and the second half written several hundred years later in Greek. Gonna have some things lost in translation there.
So it's only been rumored that Beth's husband went to a conversion camp but he's adtessee it and said otherwise. Also, in very fundamentalis t families children do not have to be gay to be sent to a camp. Parents fearing their children aren't gender conforming enough or interested enough in the opposite sex can send their children away. Just to be sure apparently 🤷♀️
ARCADEAHRI I am a woman who actually wears no makeup and I wouldn’t classify their wardrobes as “normal.” I wouldn’t go to Fred Meyers wearing even a fraction of their accessories. I know everyone’s “normal” is different, and that’s okay...but it’s another thing to preach something and not actively show and live it. Another comment said “there is nothing wrong with that” (the way they dress and look) and there isn’t. There isnt anything wrong with wearing blue, right? But if I constantly preached that blue was awful and that it’s not honoring to God to wear blue, and it’s wrong to wear blue, then I wore blue, there would be an issue. Does that make sense? The action itself is not the problem, it’s the action within the context.
A lot of people ask what the meaning of life is. What is our purpose? Personally, I think we should be asking ourselves 'What is my purpose? What gives my life meaning?
As a Christian I still find them hilarious. I wish Christian education on homosexuality wasn’t.. shit. My dads a pastor ... doesn’t know how to feel about homosexuality but he still loves my best friend and her girlfriend 🤧 JUST LOVE PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE LOVE. Damn
Rebecca A. It’s not fake... or a sin... to love as Jesus loved. HOWEVER... It’s a sin to judge because ONLY God can Judge. James 4:12 *There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?* Who’s the real fake Christian here?
"okay well how bad can a couple of christian girls be" *"Her life stands as a beacon of hope for anyone struggling with same-sex attraction"* "oh, very"
"Hey." "Yeah?" "You ever wonder why we're here?" "It's one of life's greatest mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product to some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night." ".....What? I mean why are we here in this canyon?" "Oh. Uh....yeah." "What was all that stuff about God?" "Uh...hmm? Nothing." "You wanna talk about it?" "No." "You sure?" "Yeah."
They don't seem to use their brain for critical thinking. That sure can clear up a lot of storage to remember verses in order to repeat them like a parrot
A lot of people memorize them, either for Church or home. My cousins participate in this thing called Bible Bowl. It's basically like a trivia competition almost. Memorization of Bible verses is critical for it - you need to be able to hear the start of a verse and know the answer so you can beat the opponents, or if they ask you to recite a verse, you need to be able to recite them. It just takes a lot of time and dedication, but it can be done.
Can you seriously be imagine though some random being like 'you give me your dna so I can be a transphobic to your face' ripp no that's not how the world works buddy
yes they do, along with other normal people. Some people these days are stupid. Girls are no different from the other genders in society. They live their lives, thats it.
Who says they are wearing it for beauty? And if beauty doesnt matter then it doesnt matter if they are wearing makeup or not. I wear make up because its like clothes to me I like to Express myself through it and feel more like i am portraying myself.
Their worldview represents the problem I have with having real discussions on social issues with my Christian relatives. It’s borderline impossible to get them to understand non-Christians without them also looking down on or pitying them in some way.
The Voice of Treason I was just waiting for her to pop up, seeing as I wouldn’t know about these random white girls except through my lesbian mother, Lord Farquad
That part at 27:10 is just amazing. Like, The videos as a whole are just so, so good and really well done and researched - I love it very much. Those little snippets of humor are just as good.
They attacked another Christian CZcamsr like a year ago I think it was. God Is Gray is her name. She's very sweet and genuinely kind. She saw how people were trolling them and decided to reach out and offer support. Bethany was like "Oh, yes, we're very grateful!" but then that same week came out with a video saying very disgusting things and untruths about GodIsGray. Jimmy from Mr.Atheist is very good friends with GodIsGray and he was absolutely furious about this and made a video about it which is how I found out.
Im Christian too and they are basically just 'Im using God as an excuse to be stupid, and to show what I think is the only right thing, even though we are just in Denial'
As a trans man who was raised in an... intensely christian household, I listen to a lot of videos making fun of Girl Defined and people like them because it feels therapeutic for me. I was raised with so many toxic ideas and standards which still cause me pain to this day, that it's nice to hear people outside of the weird christian bubble refute those toxic standards and all the woo-woo nonsense. Suffice to say, dunking on Girl Defined will never get old for me. xD
I went to school with Emma Jenkins, she is an amazingly sweet person. One year before Christmas, she printed out like hundreds of “You are Loved” gift cards and would just hand them out to people. She always smiled at people and complimented them as she walked through the hallway, she’s so sweet
Girl Defined: Looks don't matter! What matters is on the inside! Also Girl Defined: Hey guys here's how to dress and wear makeup in a godly way if you don't do this you're not pure enough.
This video reminds me of a story about my grandmother (also, for clarity’s sake of the story I am male and queer). Me and my grandmother were having a conversation and I don’t remember how it came up, but I told her that me and my fiancé (who is also male) were not having sex till after we married. She looked me straight in the eye and said, “No hun, you got to test drive that car before purchasing it.” Needless to say I was quite flabbergasted. Note that my grandmother wasn’t a hippy or anything, she was very stereotypically a grandmother. Anyway, pointless story, but a funny one.
European? Europe mostly stuck with marry if you get pregnant but weren't as strict on Christianity as a whole. Still, older relatives can be surprising, my aunt and uncle liked that I was closer to my boyfriend than I thought would be "normal" for Christians.
That´s actually really good advise, i feel like sexuality is such an important side of relationships that commiting to someone without knowing if you´re compatible in that sense can be a big mistake
I found your channel a few days ago and I am please to come to the conclusion that I don’t live my life on the internet because there’s no one I’ve watched u cover do I have any clue about who they are lol 😂. Love how u break things down though and will continue to have my eyes opened by your content .
Everyone believes that their own culture and brand is superior to some degree. We're all the same. Isn't that why they were mocked in the first place - their culture seems wack compared to mainstream?
@@libertyadams5961 well, yes you make a good point. But there mainly mocked because their culture is in direct opposition to ours. It's not just different. It clashes with the general opinion of life.
Annie T more conservative views are in direct opposition to ours. Although with these two fundamentalists there is a fair amount of opposition in regards to sex, marriage, entertainment, and other things. They are equally memebers of western civilization. Went to school, got a job, pay taxes. Now the churches they go to don’t, by they themselves and the people of the congregation do. We are not dealing sith totally separate world views here. They aren’t from Asia or the Middle East, which have separate world views and overall ideologies that often are in direct opposition to our world views and ideologies. Honestly, if you see them as alien, you’re just as radical as them.
@@nerdstorm596 A hypocrite who doesn't know they're a hypocrite nor admits to it is far more dangerous. It is one thing to teach people to be decent. It is a whole different thing to teach people to go against basic human behavior and not acknowledge the ludicrousness of the request.
Somebody once told her that she couldn't just sit there silently and stare into the camera until it was her turn to talk, so she does the Unobtrusive Confirmation Thing.
wow thats a totally funny thing you said thats original and not what 12 different youtubers have said before you so you can copy to get likes on a youtube video comment section
My first reaction to them was to dub them the "Bobble head twins". One would talk while the other would constantly nod. Maybe that wasn't nice but I couldn't help laughing at their presentation sometimes.
Not even sure where in the bible it says to punish slaves for any reason, pretty sure they said the slaves shouldn't lash out *in the context* that revenge is never justified. It's a misconception that it's homophobic as well. It's a ton of stupid people trying to get their beliefs out by misinterpreting a vague message. It says lust is a sin, not homosexuality.
@@dude8171 Agreed. Slavery and the Bible is quite the complicated matter, but the slavery practised in the 1800s is something its authors would condemn.
@@jadenasselstine9953 Yes, be very cautious with god`s feelings and preferences cuz if you upset him then well ......... lets just say it would have been better if you had never been born at all
@@R3NN29 yeah Christians say they don't FEAR fear god, but they are absolutely terrified of the repercussions of upsetting god (eg; being cast to hell for eternal torture). Fearing the consequence of angering god is identical to fearing god itself.
I don’t believe in god but I don’t care if you do. But like nobody should have to fear anything or anyone IMO. My son is a beautiful boy who only deserves love and that’s how I feel about all children which is why I’m working to be a foster mom. These kids need love not “the fear of god” or the fear of being abandoned or anything of that nature. Say some stupid shit like “well then you’re gonna go to hell and burn forever” like my mom used to tell me and you’re sure to have a child who definitely thinks organized religion is 100% a cult
I grew up in the mormon culture and can recognize so many cult tactics in their rhetoric. (Yes, I firmly believe the LDS church is a cult). The very way they SPEAK with what we call "primary voice" which basically means they have a soft-but-firm, I-couldn't-harm-you-so-listen-to-me, cadence. The fact that they repeat so many ideas over and over with so many fluffy words that really mean nothing. It's about lulling someone into a position of comfort and sewing in the "true message" with smooth, confident words. It can make people dizzy and vulnerable. And already vulnerable people can fall for that shit so easily.
I think it's funny that you think the church of the latter day saints is a cult, because the most sane Christian I personally know is a part of that church. idk whether that's just sad or not.
My biggest problem with Girl Defined was the lack of self-awareness of the scope of their religion. Sure, THEY believe in the Trinity and the Bible, but most people don't. They treat their beliefs like they are objective when they are actually subjective. It's an issue most religious outreach groups struggle with: they hate to admit that the majority of the world doesn't have the same beliefs, and that they need an argument other than "God intended it" when they preach a message to a world with thousands of gods.
Yah however there talking to Christians are you saying that modern Helenics are wrong for talking about Greek mythology because most of the world doesn't practices hellenic beliefs
@@willardjr6257 I'm not just talking about Girl Defined. The main problem is that arguments against other religions and secularism usually boil down to the same reasoning that Christians use when talking to each other. I guess I should have put my points in a different order, i.e. Christian outreach groups relying on the same rhetoric as groups like Girl Defined, but oh well.
@@andrewmandrona7891 ok that makes a lot more sense I agree with you on that aspect of things and I after rea reading I do see What you were talking about
The majority is actually Christians. It's the largest religion in the world. Also, offcoarse they would talk about it in a factual way. They believe in it. This argument doesn't hold up in many conversations. They are also preaching to Christian women. How else would you want them to speak? Religious people speak in the way they do because they perceive it as the truth just like how anyone speaks about something they believe. Although I do think that the way girldefined speak about their beliefs is unnerving as they seem to have an incredibly close minded view on those who have different beliefs which isn't the best way to preach or teach.
@@fbsie8579 So, I already commented about the rhetoric they're using. Please read that one. Other than that, I think you have a troubling misconception about the world. There are only about two billion Christians in the world, and those groups are further splintered with Protestant and Catholic groups. Overall this is less than 1/3 of the world population, far from most, and Christianity probably won't be the top religion much longer due to how fast Islam is growing.
this is definitely off topic from the video, but i like the way you've let more of your personality and sense of humor slip out into your videos recently. i have always enjoyed your videos because they allow me to look at things from a different perspective, but when you allow more of yourself to come through it adds a little something extra. thank you for the great work as always!
paige yeah I think it’s pretty cool to see the growth and evolution of his personality over the time I’ve been subbed. I feel like around this time next year he’ll have over a million subs if not a little sooner. I just get that vibe from this channel
@Chelsea G this is seriously disturbing though that some conservative circles seem to have a HUGE preference specifically for very light blonde blue-eyed white females as their media figures. I have noticed it many times, and it is somewhat questionable, I think
@Chelsea G Hi, Carole Simpson was news anchor at NBC, then from 1988-2003 she was an anchor for the weekend edition of world news tonight. She was the moderator for the 1992 presidential debate.
This ist due to their fetish for this minority. And i'd like to point out that it looks like they would be helping their hair colour a bit to fit the stereotype.
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Ok big gay
Epix
Do you like nisekoi lol
Love the gay pope james.
That was no comment on celibat, good luck in your love life.
There's a difference between "we personally find porn bad because of our religious beliefs" and "porn is evil because god says so and a *real woman* shouldn't ever even *think* about a man in that way, that's bad"
I promise you, not all of us try to push our beliefs on to other people like they do.
@@Flapjack505 we know, don't worry ahah , there are twats in every large community, you don't have to feel ashamed on their behalf :> it's just too bad these twats lead to the persecution of millions of people :')
Exactly. I’m a Christian but I still respect the grind
Roneila • thank you (: also it does suck how many people ar killed over Christianity
And it’s also different from ‘porn is bad not because some imaginary magical being says so, but because it directly contributes to increased demand of the sex trafficking of women and children’
"Why I waited until marriage to expose my ankles to my husband"
Juan Mann what?? That implies you actually met your husband before marriage. Scandalous
Kinky
Proode
Lol
Why I waited until marriage to let my husband look at my phyiscal form
"No woman should think of a man that way."
Lesbians: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you.
👏
They don’t believe you exist lol
@@xxIluvyouguysxx wait wdym- do they not think gay people exist ??
@@sh4li8i6 well, they view anything regarding the LGBT community or other things related as "sins" so they don't acknowledge their existence. Like a devious behavior but not something that "exist"
@@fiddleheadfern3 SO I DON'T EXIST TO THEM :0
I am legit from a religius school , with NUNS actual nuns giving us CLASSES , we showed them this girls and ohhhhh boi they did not like them lol , they said and I quote " they have a cultish mob mentallity , you see someone like this in real life , run the other way ok" lmaoo
I went to 2 different catholic schools and both all the teachers, nuns and priests were like girl defined but wayyyy..more over the top
@@SuicideRedemption y’know, even in people I’ve met irl have had vastly different experiences going to catholic schools. Goes to show that even catholic school staff are as varied in quality as public, I suppose
I think it’s the difference between Catholics and the more evangelical christians. They have very different internal cultures.
😯😂🤣 nuns never hold back 😂🤣
@@SuicideRedemption I guess catholic schools are a mixed bag.
I attended two in which there were a few gay couples, and one I'm pretty sure FTM trans person, no one batted an eye or discriminated in the second one, the first one I was too young to pay attention.
Then, I went to another one where the priests teaching us would literally say shit like "God will punish all gays with eternal hellfire" who would get furious even at an implication that you questioned such a standpoint.
Girl 1: *Breathes*
Girl 2: Mmm-hmm.
Girl 1: *Sneezes*
Girl 2: Yep.
Girl 1: *Does literally nothing*
Girl 2: Absolutely!
bobbing head is really hypnotic if you watched the vid on 2x speed
They're just too annoying to watch this video any more. They're like the blonde Hodge twins.
Girl 2 is worse, when girl 1 talks she just says mhm in exact same intervals
Pretty sure this is a church culture thing. I can't sit near a lot of people during sermons because they go "mm...mm-hm...mmh" the whole time. Like they need to actively participate instead of just listening quietly.
@@arolurker3511 They are desperate to participate after being told what to do their whole life :(
people who are THAT religious honestly creep me out.
it's because it starts feeling cult-y
Eric Dajenais They are insane, I study in a Catholic school, and even the priest and nuns there aren't THIS religious
@@casualcrisis6349 it is a cult, for definition
@@thesalazar7328 that's a bit weird if they truly believe in God and the bible...
so like little story that ik only people who have replied or people scrolling through comments like me will see. so i’m agnostic and i was friends with a girl who acted very similarly to girls defined. she was constantly at church and wasn’t a good friend bc of how religious she was. one night i was on the verge of suicide and i just wanted to not be alive and she kept pushing me into believing in god. she kept saying put my trust in god. it got to a point where anytime i had a problem as big or small as it was her solution was god. for all those who don’t know what agnosticism is. it’s not that i don’t completely reject god. i just need some type of proof and going through everything i have i just don’t have proof to say he exists. it just got really toxic and she always judged my past. it was little things like the fact i dyed my hair bright red. she didn’t know i did it for my friend who had cancer and i cut it and gave it to a wig maker so my friend felt more comfortable. overall it was so toxic bc the night i attempted my friend woke me up and i purged everything outta my system. only three of my friends knew including her and she made me feel so horrible about my decision that i just got so depressed for the next couple months. eventually my friend group rejected her bc of how she treated me (my other two friends were declared christians so i always got most of the verbal beatings from her). it was just an experience i never wanna experience again
I really bugs me when they call themselves ‘girls’ so often when they are, in fact, grown ass women
THIS
I've notice that! It's like a misogyny thing. Like a way of infantilizing women. Like how some men will say females instead of women to dehumanize them, they'll say girls instead of women to make them seem less competent or adult. Weird
chiming in from a fundamentalist background (i used to attend fundamentalist church services with my family, i’m on my own way to find my truth now)… this definitely is a misogyny and fundie-culture thing- at least that i noticed in my former church. women were never referred to as women unless part of a ministry, instead they’d use ‘girls’ or ‘ladies’. only other women would actually say ‘the event for women’ or ‘women’s ministry’ while the men would say ‘girl’s outreach’ or something like that.
It's a pretty common thing to do, but the context definitely matters. They're weirdly methodical about it.
I always felt like they would become Women after marriage and/or s*x... :/
My sweet little old great grandma born in early 1900 told me way back in the 80's that the only good thing about saving sex for marriage is that you will never know how good it could really be if you end up with a boar... She was a firecracker. She also told me to find a man who cooks and knows how to iron his own shirts, and I did just that. She taught me well.
My Grandma's the same lol i love her
I wish I had a grandma like yours.
Your grandmother sounds amazing.
Your grandmother sounds amazing 🥰 wish I'd had a grandmother like that x
@Dick White I'm sure she can, what they're talking about is a guy who can contribute and not pretend to be an idiot to get out of helping around the house and stuff.
I'm a Christian woman, but hearing them repeatedly talk about things such as fearing God makes me very uncomfortable. I think people like this need to be very careful about the way they frame their conversations around religion-- it's not hard to start sounding a bit pompous and "holier than thou". I believe religion is a very personal experience between yourself and God. So instead of putting your energy into telling other people how to act, you should focus on bettering yourself and your own faith/relationship with God.
i wish more christians was as level headed as you and just leave people to their own beliefs rather than tell others what to think. thanks
Isn't fearing god like old testament stuff like you know that was the god that was like I'll kill your whole family and cattle to test your faith or flood the world to teach a point whilst the New testament god was like peace and all loving and the new testament is really the only part Christians should be following cause you know Jesus?
@@danielshore1457 Nowadays, most Christians (myself included) tend to see it as more respect, like that you would give a good father who loves you or even a trusted teacher, rather than the classic meaning of fear like you said. That kind of view of fear of God is mainly an older one, though the idea does still persist in some Christian circles. Sorry if it doesn't make sense or is wrong anyway, I'm just going by my experiences and beliefs as a Christian and beliefs I've seen in other young Christians
This is the healthy mindset I strive to achieve :)
Kathleen KMC I’m fine with people talking about religion on the internet. But as a Christian, it’s just the way that they’re trying to convey the religion is kinda too harsh. Like they’re trying to get people to convert out they’re coming on too harsh or smthn
I swear that girl on the left acts like me when I’m high and tryna act normal for my mom. “Mmhm... yeah.... definitely.... yeah.... totally” 💀
@@comeatme6ro413 Christians tbh
Well you are an American Person so it should be expected.
She seems to be on speed. I'm waiting for the tearful confession. Or is talking at that super fast rate normal?
Did you even hear what I said?
Um yeah absolutely, nodding
Deadass
If you told me that these Girl Defined videos were a recurring sketch from SNL, I'd totally buy it. Lol.
"Welcome to church chat"
I totally thought this was satire when I first saw it.
Well said, Boxxy
“why i waited till the afterlife for my first kiss”
"why i waited for dementia to settle in to look at my husband for the first time"
🤣🤣🤣
I just spit milk thru my nose.....
I got pregnant with my 4 kids by a turkey baster so I’d never have a first time with my husband.
At least you saw a great Ricky Gervais work!...
I waited until marriage to make eye contact with my husband
I bet it was magical.
l-l-l-lewd!
I'm pretty sure that actually happens in some arranged marriages lol
You made EYE CONTACT with a man?!??!? You HARLOT.
@@yusurkassem4174 I was about to ask if she was a mail-order bride xD
Sister: says literally anything
Other sister: *continuous nodding*
Ahh yes, an unoriginal comment.
@@soosawesome1151 *keeps nodding*
@@soosawesome1151 (looks at the camera, nods, looks back at you, nods again, quotes a random Bible verse)
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@@MercadoMedia *nods at you*
The victim shamed & mocked Marilyn Monroe bc she committed sui**cide in chapter 2 of their book. They glossed over her childhood of her being ra***ped, her mentally unstable mother being hospitalized/unable to care for her, her going from foster home to foster home. "Had she just lived a biblical life she would be alive. If fame, money, looks are so great then why did she ki*ll herself?" There's soo much more if you actually look into them. I reccomend Jimmy Snow's coverage of them where he covers their hideous true selves.
They used Marilyn Monroe for clout. Disgusting
@@canteskuyapete1459 really thats disgusting to you? jeez
wheres all this hate comming from
@@dab4857 Yes, they could have used an example but instead they choose to try and drag someone who is already dead down.
@@dab4857 a broken person lives a complete different life than someone who has is all put together 😂 these clown girls are hypocrites themselves. Good day.
They both are wearing so much make up and perfect hair. Perfect clothes. Looks like rich backgrounds. I just couldn't take them seriously.....
Rich? Lol you can find clothes like that at cheap stores and buy makeup for $5 and less
just because rthey don't have any style doesnt mean they dont have money. You'd be surprised at how many well off people have no or poor fashion sense.
So what if they're rich? What's your point?
They are very well off. They once tried to say they were poor because their parents GAVE one of them a car that was like 10 years old instead of new. Their parents own several businesses, the own big, nice houses & they love to talk about how they 'walked away' from modeling careers because Jesus. Which is fine, but not everyone is in a place to just turn down work without yaknow, starving. They consantly are asking for money & selling stuff at crazy prices they can't justify. They like to travel out of state to buy thrift store clothes poor people like me actually need, only to mark it up 500% & sell it online. Plus on their mom's side their great-grandpa was NAZI MAYOR who owned a giant villa in Austria. Bethany & her husband went & visited his grave & the family home while waxing nostalgic on social media about the 'good old days' when nazi-great-gpa ran the town & how glad they were that the house was still in the family. Gross. I have family that were Gypsy refugees, bet they had houses they wanted to keep as well, but that's a whole other thing.
They remind me alot of Classically Abby, they often say feminism=bad because they think that's why women feel pressure to work. I feel pressure to work because I enjoy not starving & sleeping indoors. The live so high above normal they have no idea what motivates real women. You don't have to be a billionaire to be incredibly naive about socio-economic realities I guess.
@Harvey Zykowski Thank you
Girl 1: *says something about god"
Girl 2: *head:⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️↘️↗️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️"mmhmm yeah mhhm"
Ikr that alome makes them cringeworthy to me.
Literally looking at her sister the ENTIRE TIME
Girl 2 is busy memorizing fighting game combos
Mmm yes this is clearly an input for her full meter super
Phineas and Ferb
He isn't wrong, it is insane to mash two bolts together. Using a nut and a bolt is the only way. That's what my brother's boyfriends says, and he's a builder, so he should know.
It took me a bit to realize the joke
Oof.
I almost spit out my water laughing. I love this 😂
Oh man, nice
I think he missed the fact there is a "bolt" in the back.
@@TheCinderfang wouldnt there be a nut in the back?
"A woman who fears the Lord is to be praised"
Yes. Let us *fear* our benevolent creator.
From what I know of the religion, “fearing the Lord” in the Bible doesn’t mean to actually fear him. It just means you should revere him above everything else. There are lots of weird words like that in the bible
@@regularly_priced That's exactly what it means. And precisely why uneducated people can't understand texts older than the 1970s
@@regularly_priced Superstitious rubbish...
@@lidmc796 How to you know that ‘that’s exactly what it means’?
girl defined: girls should not put their looks first
girl defined two clips later: waring 3 layers of makeup
*wearing
To be fair a lot of people like make up as art or form of expression yourself and not necessarily because of the looks
Ducklingscap That's true but they're being hypocritical since they're telling girls to 'dress modestly' otherwise they're 'asking for attention'. Girls wearing whatever clothes they want is also a way of expressing themselves, not just to look good for other dudes.
they never said to not to look but to not put it first
Good point
why i waited till marriage to meet my husband
I waited till my wedding day to even know i was bieng married
😂
Why I waited till divorce to learn my husband exists
Why I waited until our children were born before I even met my husband.
arrangement tingz
sounds like something a *mr. struggle* would say if you ask me...
"a guy that jerks off an is always late? youre lookin at em!"
sydney *you don’t want that baggage*
Wtf are y’all sped asses talkin about lmfao
@@Spinofan pretty sure they're referring to what girls of girl defined say as advices
Spinofan they’re quoting jokes from Cody ko’s video
Ok but the girl defined boyfriend on the far left looks like he thinks even waiting for marriage is too soon for sex. He looks like he thinks they should wait until their 80th anniversary for sex.
😂😂😂
Wow! Schooling women on what’s actually beautiful, as defined by the Bible, while they sit there in a full face of make up, nails done and trendy clothes on...
Exactly lmao, they’re not practising what they preach
I'm agnostic, but every time someone preaches about how "God will judge me" I'm just like..
Exactly. *God* would judge me.
Not you.
Even that argument falls flat. Like if god is really there and all living as people say, then surely he forgives you for not knowing when he didnt provide you with any proof while you were alive 😂😂😂
According to them, god is passive aggressive lol
@@kamilareeder1493 ? I mean.. believing means to have faith without any proof. That's the point. Having proof means having knowledge, which is like the opposite of believe
@@HinaTheBlue I mean I guess, but idk I hear some people phrase more in terms of belief, I grew up jewish so I feel like people always phrased a relationship with god more as a student/teacher thing rather than being based solely on belief . But I see what you mean
They think the all knowing, all powerful God needs their help
Yeah! The Bible says it is not our place to judge others, God judges the heart and we can't see that.
You missed the perfect title:
“Defining girl defined”
Heh nice
it shouldve been “Girl; Defined.”
Meh.
I would have gone with Girl Deconstructed, but that's just me.
girl defined, defined.
It genuinely scares me how they deliberately start a video with psychological manipulation (ie. the fallacy of saying something you agree with like perception of beauty in media is buggered which primes you to accept more extreme beliefs they espouse) to try and hook their viewers into believing their madness
That’s the con artist mode of operation!! A great tool it seems.
It's like Andrew Tate peppering his misogyny with some truths anyone would agree with just to get that $50/mth from incels
Actually I watch girl defined reaction videos specifically by formerly religious people as a cathartic process of overcoming my fundamentalist upbringing. I was raised in purity culture which paints women in such a bad light, like virginity equals worth and women should aspire to be "helpmates" not individuals. Girl defined isn't saying anything new and their platform is designed to appeal to and draw in young women viewers who are seeking advice for adolescence and identity issues. So the reaction videos are kind of like a buffer between the toxicity of girl defined's message, humerously refuting their rhetoric. I find it cathartic. I wish I had reaction videos to the radical religious messages of my youth.
Have you found God Is Grey channel?
MY Fav is Tell-tale but don't know if he has covered these two first time I have seen them.
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@@aspektx holy shit! you read nothing!
EXACTLY THIS!
That’s something I’ve seen a lot of. I know Jimmy Snow (Mr. Atheist) was brought up in a strict religious household and he’s talked about how harmful that upbringing has been, even after he left. A lot of people who respond to that Jehovah show are like that too, people who were former members of the religion as children and as adults describe it as a cult-like vibe.
Girl Defined is essentially the sugar-coated version of "conservatism is the new counter culture."
Biggest oxymoron of all time
Christians have been straying from God and following what non Christians are doing since the beginning of time. It is possible that that is what they are referring to rather than the general "going against societal norms", but idk.
imagine my shock
Does america even have any form of counter culture? It certainly isn't being liberal or conservative (since most counter cultures don't have their own news stations and aren't part of the culture as a whole).
@@noobiusmaximus6314 anarchism and certain aspects of metal
"I'm sick of these men defining our self worth"
Also...
"Jesus defines our self worth"
Jesus is not a man though lol. He's the son of God. That's much more than just a man.
Jo Pe he still has a dick
The Christian idea is that he is god, so it doesn't count
Edit: I'm not a Christian I'm just saying that is the current belief.
@@j.peters1222 Yeah, but *He's* the *son* of God
@@milkweechris8181 Of course. He made himself a man, it's beyond your comprehension if you don't have the Christian Catholic Catechism.
The longer I look at their faces the more my soul fades
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣dyinggggg
as someone who grew up religious, they’re also just absolutely archetypal “Christian girls.” like i know ten people who are exactly like them, and there are multiple times one of them has been like “wanna grab coffee!?” with this exact fun & light vibe, with some intense “i need to save your soul” subtext.
when talking about people they deem "ungodly" they sound condescending and holier-than-thou
Well, to be fair, that’s kinda how many atheists talk another Christians, just using the opposite language but not less condescending.
I see it as compassion. They are talking from experience and they want to help.
I'm feeling a light 0 on your comment.
can't tell if this is a defense of Girl Defined or not
mathqueen23 compassion can be passed around without a condescending tone, simple.
Talking about feminism whilst strongly advocating for a system written by highly patriarchal men 2000 years ago without a shadow of self-awareness is the definition of irony.
Yeah Linda sarsour really lacks self awareness... Oh you were takling about these girls. Eh fair enough.
Peter Lock Bolvig Christianity is worse than Islam
@@wrappedaroundmyfinger i is illegal by Islamic (the caliphate) law to be gay in any Islamic country, at best you will be forced to have gender reassignment surgery, at worst you are thrown of sky scrapers. in Islam a woman is by the very law inferior to a man. and this is in current year.
how on earth is Christianity worse than Islam?
Well considering they love the idea of worshipping a sky daddy... I mean...
Peter Lock Bolvig you are not wrong here but one should aknowlege that many people here strive for equality in our society. And ours happens to be based on christianity. You can always point to others and say „they are doing more terrible stuff than we so we don‘t have to look at our own flaws“. Do you see my point here? Even though a lot of the christian society has undergone modernization, many fundamental christians will still condem behaviour or laws that are nowadays widely accepted. Look at russia, a christian country where homosexuality is still punishable (and sometimes gay people just „disappear“) and womens rights are not upto the standarts as in europe or the states. Fundamental cheistians troughout europe and the americas don‘t put women equal to men as in „listen to your husband, you should be a homemaker and a childmaker“, because the bible states that women are lesser beings. many lgbt+ people from these fundamental christian groups suffer greatly due to the identity chrisis they have to go trough or they are completely shunned. Also taking away the right of women to decide over their own body is based on christian ideas as one can see in the „pro-life“ discussions currently ongoing in the states.
It is by all means not a black and white discussion and my argument here is of course leaned into the extreme but it‘s nevertheless a counterargument and i hope it does give some insight in why some people in the western society are so oical against christianity.
The way you explained how they're not countercultural just because they're not necessarily mainstream or belonging to a majority belief was so great. It's something I've felt when I hear people say things like that, but couldn't quite figure out how to verbalize.
As a person who previously religious, I find two things troubling:
1) GirlDefined assumes that one is inherently going to become bad if they step out line with religion in any way whatsoever. This mindset really freaked with my head, making me thing that I was destined for a life of hell because I thought watching Johnny Sins was a good way to use my lonely times. (Spoiler: I am not a coke addicted hooker. Thanks mom.)
2) The broader Christian community is so fear-mongering . They create a bubble of thought instead of giving you any tools to defend yourself from the true evils of the world. Instead of telling you how to avoid sexual harassment, they tell you "you shouldn't have been in a situation where you could have been harassed in the first place". Instead of teaching you to speak up, they teach you to "obey your elders". This creates a horrid dynamic where quite frankly, you're setting people up not the explore things for themselves and stripping them of their problem solving capabilities.
But then again. This thoughts are my own.
From your first point they think people become bad if they step out of their definition of "Christianity", because am sure the wont acknowledge other religion.
Your second point is why a lot of kids feel so terrified to tell leaders in their church/their own parents about sexual misconduct held by other leaders because they’re considered guilty of sinful acts.. which is so damn dangerous. They get away with it for so long because the act of sex is so taboo, impure, and we never were educated in how to defend ourselves from sex that is actually wrong.
I was sexually abused by a church leader and didn’t come out with it until recently.
When I did tell them, who hadn’t gone to church since my abuse, they turned it so it wasn’t their fault and blamed me for ruining my abuser’s covenant of marriage and I should be ashamed of myself. I ruined their relationship with God.. being a sexy little 15 year old girl who was his student…?
They’re all fucked in the brain regarding sex and the inherent power dynamic that older men have over the youth by talking about such vulnerable things with them and forming their minds to become easy targets for such abuse.
@@amandasantana5725 thats actually scarily close to what happened to me. My parents are both very religious and have never taken my story to a more higher place than the church’s senior pastor, thus no one in the church knows what happened to me or a few other girls at church, and on top of that, that pastor is still at that church.
"why I waited until marriage to allow myself within a 10 foot radius of my husband"
"why i waited until marriage to have a husband"
"Why i waited until marriage to meet my husband"
"why i waited until marriage to reveal my physical form to my husband"
Erik C arranged marriage in a nutshell
Why i waited until marriage to get married
“I’m tired of these men defining our worth”
* proceeds to claim what defines your worth as a woman *
Funny how they claim it isn’t “lady like” for you to experience anything that can happen to make you learn” but WILL claim what is lady like due to “gods followings
Last time I checked is that god loves all no matter what you do...
Certain types of Christians can have a certain idea on how you should live your life as a person but can guilt trip you in the kind of way to the point of where there isn’t too much freedom and maturity for you to learn the mistakes and grow.
I wouldn’t say all but some do.
•••••• li4nn3.5iu •••••• Exactly. I’m Christian, but I know that, as humans, we aren’t perfect. Girl Defined is such a twisted idea of how to teach Christianity. The goal of finding Jesus and accepting him isn’t about walking on eggshells and beating yourself up about anything bad you do. It’s about accepting the fact that you’ve sinned, asking for forgiveness, and moving on to try and avoid those same mistakes. Even without the Bible, humans have a moral compass. We know right from wrong, so trying to teach it to a person is already a stupid concept.
Edit: No longer Christian since writing this, but still applies
•••••• li4nn3.5iu •••••• Agreed, God loves everyone, even the non christians
Well to be fair She isnt letting a Man Define your worth.. She is doing it for you.
Per God's word. Not theirs.
"When we think of terrible things, we don't think of porn!"
*nervous sex-repulsed asexual laughter*
Man that's crazy, still can't find who asked tho.
@@yukisan2442 Your condescending comment was so funny I forgot to laugh
@@cheekyweebugger3621 oh damn
@@yukisan2442 Man that's crazy, still can't find who asked for your opinion tho.
Okay that's actually hilarious lmao
I love when people who are wearing makeup and fashionable clothing are telling me that we shouldn’t worry about outward appearances.
I don't understand how people find security in fear though.
Me either. I was scared shitless of nuns and god for a very long time . Even though my parents taught me a loving and non judging god I spent a lot of time at my dads parents house who were extremely Irish catholic which is all about fear and guilt ( they charged later in life but through my informative years they really impacted me). Every Sunday I was petrified to go to church that’s finally my parents stood up to them and I was no longer forced to go. I had a prayer book and spoke with “god” every night and ask him all sorts of questions I never got answers to. When I got older I researched the Bible and made me hate the Christian god more and more . I am trying to get more spiritual because I do believe their are “gods “ and maybe a head honcho . Anyways I will never understand feeling safe while being in fear .
when people say "fear god" they dont mean fear as in "ah I'm scared" they mean fear as respect
don't know why they didn't just say "respect" in the bible, but hey-ho
@@tiernanhalvey7758 Yeah, but it's a respect based out of fear. Christians don't respect their God because they think he's kind and loving, they respect him because they're terrified of the repercussions of not respecting him. It's basically a mainstream and modernized version of "leader by strength" and not "leader by capability".
There was a lemon demon background line from his Ancient Aliens song that I find sums it up.
I am paraphrasing here but
"Better evil gods than no gods".
Tiernan Halvey Probably because it’s been translated like 5 times over with the first half written in Hebrew and the second half written several hundred years later in Greek. Gonna have some things lost in translation there.
It was that cyberbully Cody Ko
mr xawkify I wheezed lol
Was looking for this😂
mr xawkify literally did a u turn
@@ryugasamurai7217 on some Bourne Identity shit
that mr.struggle?
aren’t both their husbands “formerly” gay men?
😳
So it's only been rumored that Beth's husband went to a conversion camp but he's adtessee it and said otherwise. Also, in very fundamentalis t families children do not have to be gay to be sent to a camp. Parents fearing their children aren't gender conforming enough or interested enough in the opposite sex can send their children away. Just to be sure apparently 🤷♀️
"I go to a dark place when people start talking about Jesus at me."
Me too.
Same here. I grew up in Southern Baptist territory. People talking Jesus at me nowadays still triggers my fight or flight response.
For not caring about appearances they do themselves up a lot.
Katelyn Atwood I thought the same.
gractendo There isn’t anything wrong with it, there is if you’re being hypocritical about it. Which they usually are.
They also model...
Uh, not really? They wear normal clothes and minimal makeup. Are you even a girl lol?
ARCADEAHRI I am a woman who actually wears no makeup and I wouldn’t classify their wardrobes as “normal.” I wouldn’t go to Fred Meyers wearing even a fraction of their accessories. I know everyone’s “normal” is different, and that’s okay...but it’s another thing to preach something and not actively show and live it. Another comment said “there is nothing wrong with that” (the way they dress and look) and there isn’t. There isnt anything wrong with wearing blue, right? But if I constantly preached that blue was awful and that it’s not honoring to God to wear blue, and it’s wrong to wear blue, then I wore blue, there would be an issue. Does that make sense? The action itself is not the problem, it’s the action within the context.
It’s odd to me because one of their husbands it literally gay and went through “conversion therapy” like that’s so problematic
I bet he was more than happy to wait until marriage to kiss
In one of their videos she has a death grip on his hand.
How do you know this for sure? Genuinely wondering
Katie they have confirmed it in a video. apparently one of the girls went to conversion therapy too
Omg, that's really, really sad... Hope he realises that there's nothing wrong with being gay and gets out one day.
A lot of people ask what the meaning of life is. What is our purpose?
Personally, I think we should be asking ourselves 'What is my purpose? What gives my life meaning?
Does "watching a lot of porn and having fun" count a purpouse?
@@bijntjeveenstra2455 yes, you want to have lots of "fun" and thats good
“beauty is fleeting”- similar to how the blonde box dye is fleeing from their roots
lol
I GASPED-
As a Christian I still find them hilarious. I wish Christian education on homosexuality wasn’t.. shit. My dads a pastor ... doesn’t know how to feel about homosexuality but he still loves my best friend and her girlfriend 🤧
JUST LOVE PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE LOVE. Damn
Rebecca A. Are you joking? Cause if you aren’t then you probably are too. It’s not right to judge out loud.
Rebecca A. It’s not fake... or a sin... to love as Jesus loved. HOWEVER... It’s a sin to judge because ONLY God can Judge.
James 4:12 *There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?*
Who’s the real fake Christian here?
@@shieunlee9988 yes sis educate this faker dakers
@@shieunlee9988 damn. Gotem
**agrees in not religious**
"okay well how bad can a couple of christian girls be"
*"Her life stands as a beacon of hope for anyone struggling with same-sex attraction"*
"oh, very"
👳
you're the same gal that made the mari0 tas along with masterjun
@@vermont005050
Can God make me cis pls?
i feel you syno, just keep fighting through and one day we'll be who we were always meant to be :)
The little "mhm" and nodding made me uncontrollably and inhumanely angry.
"Hey."
"Yeah?"
"You ever wonder why we're here?"
"It's one of life's greatest mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product to some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night."
".....What? I mean why are we here in this canyon?"
"Oh. Uh....yeah."
"What was all that stuff about God?"
"Uh...hmm? Nothing."
"You wanna talk about it?"
"No."
"You sure?"
"Yeah."
I loved that show!! I have the Red vs. Blue blu-Ray box. God, I really miss this show.
where is this from?
I like how you put girls in quotation marks like they might actually be aliens
Plot twist: They _are_ aliens!
Nah as I’m an alien myself, these are just misguided individuals.
My initials are E.T. Yet no one can pick up on the obvious signs I’m showing.
@@Sydney_Angelyt this is the best reply ever created
Would explain A LOT.
Cassandra Tafoya exactly. they are married women in their 30s. they aren’t girls lol.
As a Christian myself, how the hell do people remember Bible Verses? Aren’t there like 7,000 of them?
I was thinking that lol
They don't seem to use their brain for critical thinking. That sure can clear up a lot of storage to remember verses in order to repeat them like a parrot
And they take things out of context.
A lot of people memorize them, either for Church or home. My cousins participate in this thing called Bible Bowl. It's basically like a trivia competition almost. Memorization of Bible verses is critical for it - you need to be able to hear the start of a verse and know the answer so you can beat the opponents, or if they ask you to recite a verse, you need to be able to recite them. It just takes a lot of time and dedication, but it can be done.
JustinWasHere, Probably I never was good at memorizing them or anything else
“What defines a girl?”
Simple: anyone who identifies as a girl is the definition of a girl.
@Alex Law ummm yes
@Alex Lawumm yes
@Brix Broox DNA doesn’t matter lol. No one’s looking at my DNA when they talk to me.
@Brix Broox coward deleted their comments lmao
Can you seriously be imagine though some random being like 'you give me your dna so I can be a transphobic to your face' ripp no that's not how the world works buddy
The phrase "you kneaded me in my mother's womb" is just creepy.
So much of Girl Defined can be summed up with 1 phrase:
"We live in a society."
Bottom Text
yes they do, along with other normal people. Some people these days are stupid. Girls are no different from the other genders in society. They live their lives, thats it.
@@white-war-crewmate ok
@@white-war-crewmate Girl Defined fan gtfo
@@Luke-ep7zk ?
So.... why wear pounds of makeup for their videos if beauty isn’t so important
👀😬👩🏾🦯👩🏾🦯👩🏾🦯 they won't say
There's a verse they read out that specifically said not to wear braids in your hair WHILE THEY HAD THEIR HAIR BRAIDED.
They wear light makeup just blush, mascara, brow filler, lipstick
Who says they are wearing it for beauty? And if beauty doesnt matter then it doesnt matter if they are wearing makeup or not. I wear make up because its like clothes to me I like to Express myself through it and feel more like i am portraying myself.
Orange Hiccup sure Jan
OMG THIS IS MY RELATIVE GETTING BAPTIZED (??) sorry idk how English works but I know this child LMAOWNSJAKS 2:42
Dude your relative is getting waterboarded
Their worldview represents the problem I have with having real discussions on social issues with my Christian relatives. It’s borderline impossible to get them to understand non-Christians without them also looking down on or pitying them in some way.
Seeing Strange Æons in a TRO video suprised me way more than it should have
This autoplayed from one of Strange Æons' videos......it's a sign
the gays supporting the gay economy
TRO and AEons uploaded in the same day only a hour apart, Its a sign from the gay gods
The Voice of Treason I was just waiting for her to pop up, seeing as I wouldn’t know about these random white girls except through my lesbian mother, Lord Farquad
@@tobylarone3460 I thought you meant your acctual mother and was so fucking confused...
"I never have sex and it's definitely not because I'm alone and sad. I promise. It's just because I have restraint."
Same! 🤣
I have a ton of restraint yanawhaimsayin
Same
I guess we all have a very *cough cough* high level of restraint...
Don't need to talk about your bondage fetish on here hun, we already know...
I love your profile picture
😁
How secure can you be in your life choices, if you feel you have to justify them 24/7?
That part at 27:10 is just amazing. Like, The videos as a whole are just so, so good and really well done and researched - I love it very much. Those little snippets of humor are just as good.
I’m a Christian. But I’ve never been able to get through an entire Girl Defined video because.... ugh. I don’t think I even need to explain.
Morgan Freeman I’m Christian too and I can relate.
I’m a Christian as well, I feel the focus is on themselves and not on God. I feel the same, I can’t get through 5 min of their videos.
Imagine being Christian
They attacked another Christian CZcamsr like a year ago I think it was. God Is Gray is her name. She's very sweet and genuinely kind. She saw how people were trolling them and decided to reach out and offer support. Bethany was like "Oh, yes, we're very grateful!" but then that same week came out with a video saying very disgusting things and untruths about GodIsGray. Jimmy from Mr.Atheist is very good friends with GodIsGray and he was absolutely furious about this and made a video about it which is how I found out.
Im Christian too and they are basically just 'Im using God as an excuse to be stupid, and to show what I think is the only right thing, even though we are just in Denial'
Why I waited until marriage to marry my husband
underrated
Good job and happy marriage hamster on the internet!
As a trans man who was raised in an... intensely christian household, I listen to a lot of videos making fun of Girl Defined and people like them because it feels therapeutic for me. I was raised with so many toxic ideas and standards which still cause me pain to this day, that it's nice to hear people outside of the weird christian bubble refute those toxic standards and all the woo-woo nonsense.
Suffice to say, dunking on Girl Defined will never get old for me. xD
Them: CHRSIT GIVES US WORTH!!!
Me, a jewish girl: 👁👄👁
Bruh
Name : Chris
Status : gay
Profile: liar
Well I didn't expect existential crisis in the first 30 seconds. Thanks for that
He is not exurb1a or exurb2a
I have successfully given the 666th like on this comment
665 likes.
Top 10 reasons god exists
If you want to experience multiple existential crises, then you should watch exurb1a.
Good thing I already had one(it was pretty nasty) a while before I knew this video existed.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No! This is Patrick!"
Patrick Star is my one true God.
Hahahahahaha
✋😤👌
Lmao
😂😂😂😂
I went to school with Emma Jenkins, she is an amazingly sweet person. One year before Christmas, she printed out like hundreds of “You are Loved” gift cards and would just hand them out to people. She always smiled at people and complimented them as she walked through the hallway, she’s so sweet
Take a shot every time the other girl not talking says “mmh-hmm”.
I cannot put into earthly terms how thrilled I am that you are doing this video
666 likes, id like the comment but I can't mess that up
Yes!
cool
Could you then explain it in martian terms?
I know this will get buried, but please do Classically Abby, she's the Jewish version of Girl Defined and Ben Shapiro's sister.
Savvy writes books does great commentary on Abby and Ben lol
I’m a libertarian, but my god classically Abby might be my least favorite person on CZcams.
She looks so much like Ben Shapiro it’s hilarious
whoa there buddy, cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
@@HolkHugan So the mere act of pointing out that someone's Jewish is antisemitic now? 🤦
Girl Defined: Looks don't matter! What matters is on the inside!
Also Girl Defined: Hey guys here's how to dress and wear makeup in a godly way if you don't do this you're not pure enough.
"I waited until marriage to learn the the male gender exists"
Every time I see strange Æons I feel happy
Me every time I see Jimmy snow
dan choen same I love her content
Fraser and James
@@cherryblossom1460 do you have the special Wii motion plus inside? 🤔
*”Hello son come have some lentils for dinner”*
This video reminds me of a story about my grandmother (also, for clarity’s sake of the story I am male and queer). Me and my grandmother were having a conversation and I don’t remember how it came up, but I told her that me and my fiancé (who is also male) were not having sex till after we married. She looked me straight in the eye and said, “No hun, you got to test drive that car before purchasing it.”
Needless to say I was quite flabbergasted. Note that my grandmother wasn’t a hippy or anything, she was very stereotypically a grandmother. Anyway, pointless story, but a funny one.
European? Europe mostly stuck with marry if you get pregnant but weren't as strict on Christianity as a whole. Still, older relatives can be surprising, my aunt and uncle liked that I was closer to my boyfriend than I thought would be "normal" for Christians.
Coolest. Grandmother. Ever.
sounds like something somebody on my moms side would say lmao
That´s actually really good advise, i feel like sexuality is such an important side of relationships that commiting to someone without knowing if you´re compatible in that sense can be a big mistake
I found your channel a few days ago and I am please to come to the conclusion that I don’t live my life on the internet because there’s no one I’ve watched u cover do I have any clue about who they are lol 😂. Love how u break things down though and will continue to have my eyes opened by your content .
why you always give me an existential crisis in the beginning of these videos
"culture and brands are terrible unless it's our culture and our brand then that's god's work baby!"
Everyone believes that their own culture and brand is superior to some degree. We're all the same. Isn't that why they were mocked in the first place - their culture seems wack compared to mainstream?
@@libertyadams5961 well, yes you make a good point. But there mainly mocked because their culture is in direct opposition to ours. It's not just different. It clashes with the general opinion of life.
Annie T more conservative views are in direct opposition to ours.
Although with these two fundamentalists there is a fair amount of opposition in regards to sex, marriage, entertainment, and other things. They are equally memebers of western civilization. Went to school, got a job, pay taxes. Now the churches they go to don’t, by they themselves and the people of the congregation do. We are not dealing sith totally separate world views here. They aren’t from Asia or the Middle East, which have separate world views and overall ideologies that often are in direct opposition to our world views and ideologies.
Honestly, if you see them as alien, you’re just as radical as them.
@@nerdstorm596lmao no, i aint' tellin anyone how to live
@@nerdstorm596 A hypocrite who doesn't know they're a hypocrite nor admits to it is far more dangerous. It is one thing to teach people to be decent. It is a whole different thing to teach people to go against basic human behavior and not acknowledge the ludicrousness of the request.
Can the second girl stop boping up and down and going mhm every 2 seconds?
She probally did that all of her live
Thats a hard thing to change
Somebody once told her that she couldn't just sit there silently and stare into the camera until it was her turn to talk, so she does the Unobtrusive Confirmation Thing.
Maybe she's actually a religion spewing robot
RIGHT? Drives me nuts
wow thats a totally funny thing you said thats original and not what 12 different youtubers have said before you so you can copy to get likes on a youtube video comment section
My first reaction to them was to dub them the "Bobble head twins". One would talk while the other would constantly nod. Maybe that wasn't nice but I couldn't help laughing at their presentation sometimes.
That is the most informative video I’ve watched on them! Thank you.
Before the Bible I had no idea how to punish my slaves and how to sacrifice my children. But now I know how to do it right!
The Bible is very much against Child Sacrifice. Kindly resist the urge to use this argument via outrage.
@@llewelynshingler2173 Sorry, sorry *Sacrifice with my children
Not even sure where in the bible it says to punish slaves for any reason, pretty sure they said the slaves shouldn't lash out *in the context* that revenge is never justified. It's a misconception that it's homophobic as well. It's a ton of stupid people trying to get their beliefs out by misinterpreting a vague message. It says lust is a sin, not homosexuality.
@@czechm4te "Sacrifice with my children?" What does that mean?
@@dude8171 Agreed. Slavery and the Bible is quite the complicated matter, but the slavery practised in the 1800s is something its authors would condemn.
“The ideal image of pure femininity”
*Shows Ricardo Juice nun*
I wish I could subscribe twice
Same XD
yep
The ricardo juice nun is my favorite tiktok
yeah but the editor did that, not him.
The pastor that called heaven on his cell phone!! Was funny as hell!! 😂
So stoked to have found your channel! ❤️💯✌️
Yes because as a parent I want my kid to never be able to talk to me about anything and be scared of me.... makes perfect sense 🙄
@@jadenasselstine9953 Yes, be very cautious with god`s feelings and preferences cuz if you upset him then well ......... lets just say it would have been better if you had never been born at all
@@R3NN29 yeah Christians say they don't FEAR fear god, but they are absolutely terrified of the repercussions of upsetting god (eg; being cast to hell for eternal torture).
Fearing the consequence of angering god is identical to fearing god itself.
It's the perfect mix if you want to create a person with absolutely no confidence and fear for everything in life
Believe me it works!!! :D
I don’t believe in god but I don’t care if you do. But like nobody should have to fear anything or anyone IMO. My son is a beautiful boy who only deserves love and that’s how I feel about all children which is why I’m working to be a foster mom. These kids need love not “the fear of god” or the fear of being abandoned or anything of that nature. Say some stupid shit like “well then you’re gonna go to hell and burn forever” like my mom used to tell me and you’re sure to have a child who definitely thinks organized religion is 100% a cult
According to them, God is a pyscopath lmao
I want to see their face when someone points out they are sinning because they are wearing two different fabrics.
Can’t wait for the mental gymnastics to justify that one lol
“Only the parts I like about the Bible are true”
That was from the old testament and jesus said to literally ignore leviticus
also, aren't they sinning for being overly prideful? Idk, the extent of my bible knowledge is mostly the 7 sins... lol!
@@valentine5456 The bit about men lying with men is also in Leviticus and they still flog that BS.
Vea then we should ignore the “let men not lay with other men as he does women” part, but they’re on board with following that
I grew up in the mormon culture and can recognize so many cult tactics in their rhetoric. (Yes, I firmly believe the LDS church is a cult). The very way they SPEAK with what we call "primary voice" which basically means they have a soft-but-firm, I-couldn't-harm-you-so-listen-to-me, cadence. The fact that they repeat so many ideas over and over with so many fluffy words that really mean nothing. It's about lulling someone into a position of comfort and sewing in the "true message" with smooth, confident words. It can make people dizzy and vulnerable. And already vulnerable people can fall for that shit so easily.
I think it's funny that you think the church of the latter day saints is a cult, because the most sane Christian I personally know is a part of that church. idk whether that's just sad or not.
@@lambda5992 but both are true, many in LDS are mostly sane but it also has many cult-ish communities when in ratio.
Fellow exmo! I think anyone growing up Mormon knows exactly what this kind of purity culture can do to you.
Respectful coverage- well done. Good insights.
My biggest problem with Girl Defined was the lack of self-awareness of the scope of their religion. Sure, THEY believe in the Trinity and the Bible, but most people don't. They treat their beliefs like they are objective when they are actually subjective. It's an issue most religious outreach groups struggle with: they hate to admit that the majority of the world doesn't have the same beliefs, and that they need an argument other than "God intended it" when they preach a message to a world with thousands of gods.
Yah however there talking to Christians are you saying that modern Helenics are wrong for talking about Greek mythology because most of the world doesn't practices hellenic beliefs
@@willardjr6257 I'm not just talking about Girl Defined. The main problem is that arguments against other religions and secularism usually boil down to the same reasoning that Christians use when talking to each other.
I guess I should have put my points in a different order, i.e. Christian outreach groups relying on the same rhetoric as groups like Girl Defined, but oh well.
@@andrewmandrona7891 ok that makes a lot more sense I agree with you on that aspect of things and I after rea reading I do see
What you were talking about
The majority is actually Christians. It's the largest religion in the world. Also, offcoarse they would talk about it in a factual way. They believe in it. This argument doesn't hold up in many conversations. They are also preaching to Christian women. How else would you want them to speak? Religious people speak in the way they do because they perceive it as the truth just like how anyone speaks about something they believe. Although I do think that the way girldefined speak about their beliefs is unnerving as they seem to have an incredibly close minded view on those who have different beliefs which isn't the best way to preach or teach.
@@fbsie8579 So, I already commented about the rhetoric they're using. Please read that one.
Other than that, I think you have a troubling misconception about the world. There are only about two billion Christians in the world, and those groups are further splintered with Protestant and Catholic groups. Overall this is less than 1/3 of the world population, far from most, and Christianity probably won't be the top religion much longer due to how fast Islam is growing.
this is definitely off topic from the video, but i like the way you've let more of your personality and sense of humor slip out into your videos recently. i have always enjoyed your videos because they allow me to look at things from a different perspective, but when you allow more of yourself to come through it adds a little something extra. thank you for the great work as always!
Yeah, James thinks he's funny lmao
@prof blank Cuz he is
paige yeah I think it’s pretty cool to see the growth and evolution of his personality over the time I’ve been subbed. I feel like around this time next year he’ll have over a million subs if not a little sooner. I just get that vibe from this channel
@@doootheytho9821 exactly! i do too.
@@hycrp ^
"Christ defines my value." is a combination of words that unlocks my rage reserves. Anybody else?
I listen to your videos while doing chores. Makes the time pass better. :)
As a white blond woman I’d like to point out how white these chicks are.
@Chelsea G this is seriously disturbing though that some conservative circles seem to have a HUGE preference specifically for very light blonde blue-eyed white females as their media figures. I have noticed it many times, and it is somewhat questionable, I think
@Chelsea G Hi, Carole Simpson was news anchor at NBC, then from 1988-2003 she was an anchor for the weekend edition of world news tonight.
She was the moderator for the 1992 presidential debate.
This is the new “I have black friends” statement. Stop virtue signaling.
Shut up bitch
This ist due to their fetish for this minority. And i'd like to point out that it looks like they would be helping their hair colour a bit to fit the stereotype.
“Why i waited 5 years after marriage to meet my husband”
"I put my armor of god on when i go outside", that's some dope holy crusade material.