Only Murders In The Building S3E10 Breakdown and Review
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- We are here The OMITB Season Three Finale. We learn who killed Ben Glenroy and have a shocking ending that sets up season 4. Overall, This is my favorite season, the best mystery by far.
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Later this week we will question Who Shot Sazz - Krátké a kreslené filmy
As soon as I saw Sazz, I thought, oh, no, she’s gonna die! I like her, I don’t want her killed!
Then I realized she wouldn’t be in season five, but she will be a big part of season four! I think it will be interesting, too, because we know so much about her! That’s a great idea to go back and watch all the Sazz scenes!
I thought maybe she was gonna die but I DID NOT WANT IT TO HAPPEN. I agree, the only good thing about her dying is we will get lots of her in season 4!
Ive found lots of interesting things so far I just need to make sense of it all!
@@ScreenFavorites I think in one episode Sazz said if someone tried to kill Charles she would step in as his body double. She said many people would rather see Charles dead then to see Ben dead.
the last episode was a strong end.. it made me like this season more as a whole... i still feel like something was missing overall but I haven't yet been able to put it into words yet... i think maybe because of the star studded casts and the different conflicts it didn't focus enough on the trio solving things together ... but I'm excited to see what other videos you have planned!
I feel you 100% that it didn’t focus on the trio solving the murder as much as past seasons. I think it was intentional but didn’t hit how they wanted. For a 5 season story it makes sense that there would be a point where there is infighting and the group breaks up only to get back together. But it makes them return to their roots for the next season.
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thank you for this! you make great points.
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Thanks for a fun season Dallas! Your omitb podcast is our Favorite!
Thank you Gloria, I love talking with you guys about it!
Yes I had (unfortunately) seen the spoiler. For those that dont know, the spoiler was they released the CD soundtrack for OMITB Season 3, and one of the last tracks was titled "It was a mistake mom". So, from that you could know it was either going to be Cliff or Dickie, and then it was clear it wasnt Dickie, so the answer obviously became Cliff. It was then just a matter of "how is this going to be an accident Cliff is responsible for". And I just came up with something that would attempt to match that as others did.
Need to see what everyone think if this is not a "murder", and therefore I call BS on this entire season, on the writers and they defiantly were lazy this year. Compared to Season 1, Season 3 is a "stinkeroony" as Ben would say.
Im also uncomfortable with the ending, because the cops still dont have any proof of how Ben died. I guess we are to assume Cliff is going to be charged and will plead guilty. But if I were his defense attorney, I would tell him to plead not guilty and let the DA prove it. Since there is none, other than a Cliff confession, there is plenty of room for reasonable doubt.
Lets not forget the other lazy mistakes this season. The finger tattoos on Ben, which they got wrong multiple times. When Ben is falling to his death, he is not holding a hankie. These are major mistakes for a show that seemed to pay incredible attention to details.
They make the plot about a musical, and have Broderick and Mel Brooks make cameos....a too obvious nod to "The Producers", who it turns out are the "killers"
When both the Trio and Cops were investigating,. why didnt anyone ever investigate at the Arconia!? That is where Ben died! Wouldnt have it been logical to start where the death occurred and then work back. The Trio never focused on the time from the after party to Bens death at the Arconia. Shouldnt they have started there and then tried to trace the locations/actions of everyone who was at the party from the time they arrived until Ben was found dead?
And it turns out Mabel actually fell for Tobert, and it wasnt that she was using her time with him as part of her investigation.
Hopefully, next season they will get back to what makes this show great and its going to be more like Season 1 and have an actual murder, with a motive and the who, how, why and why now.
Ahhh I had a big ass reply that I deleted trying to type on Mobile
I agree with some of your points but others I cannot get behind.
The spoiler did make it clear who the killer was but as far as I saw no one figured out Cliffs motive, It was a good and realistic motive so I think its a win for the show.
I in no way would call this season a stinkeroony. Its not the Trios job to prosecute someone for murder. He could get off scott free or not. Its not what the show is about. Yes there is reasonable doubt and I would take it to court, but there was 100% a murder and the Trio figured out who did it. So the show lives up to the name. Im not going to waste time of What happens in the court system.
What you call "Lazy Mistakes" missing the tattoos are not lazy, they are just mistakes, so much goes into making a story let alone a murder mystery, its impossible to know what someone will latch onto. I never latched onto that idea because it held no weight in the realm of actual possibilities to me.
Your other "Lazy Mistake" Is not a mistake at all. The scene you are referring to is Mabel and Charles IDEA of how Ben died, not actual footage or someone who was there's recollection, Ben having a hankie in that scene is irrelevant because its not what happened. You are taking someone's imagination and thinking its fact. There is no mistake there and I thought nothing of it because its just people spit balling ideas.
Yes, the plot was about a musical and there were cameos from people involved in The Producers and the producers of the play ended up being the guilty party. If not for the spoilers, no one would have known that the producers were guilty. There were lots of other people who were thought to be guilty higher than those two. The show referenced lots of plays that pointed to other people. Only with all the information does that one reference seem "too obvious"
I agree, the trio and the cops should have started the investigation at the Arconia and worked their way back. But this is not as clear cut as it seems either. The police thought they had their man in Bens Superfan Gregg early on and didnt know he was innocent until later in the season. The trio was fragmented, Oliver didnt want to investigate at all, Charles was halfway in dealing with other problems and Mabel was working with Tobert, going off of what little clues they had. After finding out Ben was poisoned the police focused on that, trying to figure out who poisoned him. Its not good work but it makes sense to me.
I like that Mabel actually fell for Tobert, and maybe their relationship will continue somehow, I really want to know where Mabel is going to live. Is she still crashing at Theos place???
I do believe that they will be going back to things closer to season one as the murder at the end of this season is based around member of the Podcast and maybe them as a whole. I think this season clearly had a Murder with great motive that explained the who, how, why and why now, actually better than the previous seasons.
@@ScreenFavorites solid points for sure. Your channel is great and look forward to next season.
Overall, I liked it. I was hoping it would've been Tobert because I didn't like him, and I thought it was a bit of a stretch, but I was hoping it would be more unpredictable. I suspected the Producers early on, but for other reasons, then I dismissed them. But I loved the way it was shot with the play; the set design of the whole show and the acting is amazing! And they always leave it on such a great cliffhanger! I have so many questions!
What was Sazz going to tell Charles? Was the shot meant for Sazz or Charles? Why didn't she turn the lights on to look for the wine? Who would be such a good shot to see her in the dark? (Charles's apartment windows face the courtyard of the Arconia, so they're probably shooting from the other side, either a higher floor or the roof.)
My prediction: it's Scott Bacula! 😆 🤣 probably not, but they name dropped him twice this season, so I'm thinking we might see him next season. I assume she'd probably try to write who she thought shot her. I wonder if Jan is out of jail....
But I also think it could be Howard (I won't stop guessing him until it is him, lol. I legit think he's somehow connected to all of these Murders. If not 4, season 5 for sure). Jan wanted to frame him in season 1, but why would she when she had an out with the Dimas'? Plus, someone put a note on her door that said they were watching her. His handwriting on the board meeting notes matched the suicide notes in the trash. The shrink heard weird noises in the walls, maybe it was Howard listening in the secret passages to get all the hot goss. (If he was Jan's counselor, he might be using what he knows as leverage over her for something?) But how would he know about the secret passages, you might ask- the cats! Anyone who has a cat can tell you they get into everything! (One of my cats once got in between the walls because of a tiny hole in the drywall and another in between the floors of the house from an access panel under the sink and behind the tub). Then he might have told Poppy about them to try to get in their podcast, maybe adding some dirt on Bunny or just saying she's a Birch, which leads Poppy into coming up with the idea. As for S3, There's no way you date someone and don't know they're taking drugs, and he doesn't seem too surprised or upset; he's still very eager to hop on stage. He may be purposefully or inadvertently doing or saying things that are leading to every murder. He confessed that he killed Ben when he didn't sweep, so maybe that was him putting feelers out on how they'd react if they knew all of this? ... But, I'm 0/3, so what do I know 😅😂
We are twins in the fact that we both wanted it to be Tobert because we didn't like him hahaha.
I had ideas about the producers but NEVER would have thought it was because of the reasons that it turned out to be. To me that makes all the difference.
I think that shot was for Charles, whoever it was, is a really good shot. They could have had some type of night vision on their rifle but there are so many possibilities going on here. I don't expect people living in the Arconia to be rifle marksmen so I feel like we have not met the killer before, but I could be wrong. Also did no one hear that shot? Sazz was so all over the place, its hard to even guess what she could have wanted to tell Charles, but I do have some ideas!
Im also going through Scotts films to see if anything could line up trying to go through NCIS could take some time though. I dont know if hes the killer but I PRAY he shows up next season.
Right after season one I felt that Howard was the endgame villain, He sort of seems like an obvious person but hes so SHADY, you forgot to mention, at the end of season 2 when he pretend faints, he said I only fainted once the other two times wer an act, he fainted twice in that episode and the only other time he fainted was in season one when the trio were thinking he was guilty! He has always ALWAYS been shady to me. Im with you, Howard of guilty of everything lol.
I still don't like Tobert, he is never straight with Mabel. And what a sorry invitation - "I like you so much more than other people"!
I would love to watch the Death Rattle Dazzle play. I like cheesy, campy plays, especially musicals.
I would watch but I would cringe, I like campy but this is a little too much cheese for me.
Love your work! 👏🎬 You make great points!
Thank you.
Donna is a no good Mother. Sorry she crossed the line with him. Donna is a well known person in the entertainment field. She won all kinds of Tony's. Why she'd poison Ben to get him removed from the play was lame. If it was a hated cast member that would make more sense.
I see where you are coming from but there could be lots of reasons, she did this. Yes, she is the producer and could remove Ben at any moment if she wanted to. But those choices come with repercussions. Remember Donna found out about the Pan review less than 30 minutes before the show started and the whole thing was sold as Ben Glenroys stage debut. It wasn't just Ben, it was everything about the play.
What looks better for your sons first production: Leading man got sick, and show is postponed, or Leading man who show was based around kicked from the show? She wanted time to spin it in a way that doesn't make her sons show look like he doesn't know what he's doing.
I think poisoning Ben because he was hated is a basic and played out trope, and this was more original and made lots of sense.
Sazz did say she was seeing Jan. Probably a Red Herring to think she has anything to do with it.
I think so too BUT I do think that Charles will go to see Jan again hoping to get information about who could have done this.
They made so many references to the play about Hamlet and Richard. Talking about things in 3's and the Producers. Hard to know Re Herring or not.
It was frustrating sometimes but that was the whole idea of it, not knowing what was pertinent or not.
Thank You Dallas! I look forward to your videos and really appreciate how you wrapped up this critique. And you make some great points that I agree with. One question that never seems to get answered is...What Does Mabel do for a living? Every gorgeous outfit must cost a mortgage payment!
Thank you! This show, like nothing in life is perfect but it great and I love it!
From what I understand Mabel was paid by her aunt to renovate the apartment. Because she’s family she paid her very well, she also had no rent to pay so it was all playing money in a way. The costume designers stated that Mabel’s outfits are a mix between Mabel raiding her aunts closet and finding things at thrift shops, some of her outfits at least in season one they actually found in thrift stores!
Love season 3 can not wait for season 4
Glad Oliver played the Detective in the end. Howard is a terrible actor. Glad Oliver had a hit play. He needed that. Going forward where does the play end up. We know Loretta is going to CA. Will Oliver continue to be in the play?? It's a big job doing Broadway. We'll see next year
I think is very braggadocious when Directors put themselves in movies or shows instead of focusing on directing and Howard is a better actor than we think he is.
Technically the show will go on, Loretta is going to CA but it sounded like AFTER the show did its run, Dickie told her that they were willing to wait on her AKA let her finish her other obligations before they started filming. Oliver has done Broadway all his life, If you meant Charles, I would assume he would too BUT it would really depend on what happens with the death at the night on how the show continues.
it could have been meant for saZz well, because when she first came into the scene, she told Charles she needed to talk to him in private I wonder what it was about
It could have been meant for Sazz but someone would be more likely to expect Charles to be walking around in his apartment rather than Sazz.
It could be a big twist that the trio thing it was meant for Charles but ended up being someone who wanted to kill Sazz all along.
@@ScreenFavorites I hope they go with someone trying to take out Charles!!! Btw loooove your chanel
I take the opposite position from you on the Accident/Murder issue. I think that the shoving match between Ben & Cliff was a free-for-all, and Cliff's motive was to "slap down" Ben for being a dick & wanting to hurt his mother. Not murder--and any Good Lawyer will be able to get Cliff off with "involuntary manslaughter"--and no jail time.
Also, in the play the Detective (the role originally played by Ben) is the murderer. I see that as clever way by the writers of saying that Ben is the "murderer" in the non-play mystery. As you point out, Ben initiated the fight with Cliff; and set into motion the action that caused his own death.
I hope in Season 4 there's clarification on "what" law enforcement/the courts decided regarding Donna and Cliff.
Finally, the Sazz/Charles murder at the end has lots of possibilities regarding "who" wants Charles dead. Remember, in this season there were possibly TWO attempts on Charles life: once on stage, when the sandbags fell & just missed him; and the time he was locked in the office at the theater and almost died. Furthermore, it has been hinted at that Charles, like Ben, could be a dick: he got little boy Ben fired from the tv show, plus he was uncaring toward Joy's feelings, and even Matthew Broderick had a beef with Charles. Clearly, one of the over-arching "themes" of OMITB is the dark-side of fame & celebrity. Both Oliver and Charles are celebs, and we've seen that they both have dark-sides. Can't wait for S4 to see if the show leans into this storyline.
After further review, A majority of what we see of the fight between Ben and Cliff is just Mabel is not confirmed to be from the POV of Cliff, some of it could very well be Mabels idea of what happened. Either way. When we know 100% it is Cliff, His action that we see was not premeditated but was 100% Cliff being emotionally charged and goes out of his way to push Ben towards the elevator shaft. It wasn't just one or two steps. It may have been a reaction, but it looks like the definition of murder. What the court can prove and what happened are two different things. It doesn't matter (to me) if he gets away with it or not, the trio solved the murder.
The show runner John Hoffman stated in an interview that he saw it as a murder. That would discredit the idea that Ben was somehow the cause of his own death. Even without him saying that, it would go against the theme of the show.
It would be very helpful for them to clarify what happened to at the very least Cliff, it could easily be stated that Mabel recorded everything he said up in the rafters and there was enough there to convict him but who knows.
I do not believe it fair to say there was any attempts on the life of Charles, first the former director Jerry Blau admitted to dropping the sandbags as in order to pretend to be the ghost of Guidon trying to scare the cast away. He in no way attempted to kill Charles. IF you want to say that Jerry was somehow involved It becomes too convoluted to be true IMO. Jerry was in the rafters before Charles was cast, so someone knew Jerry was up there and offered him something in order to kill Charles? What did he get? Why didn't he try again? How did this person even know he was up there? Its too much for it to be plausible and not full of holes.
Charles being locked in a storage closet is in no way an attempt at his life. It looked like a door that only opens from the outside or the door handle could be faulty. NO ONE could have known that Charles was going to open that door and close it behind him. It is too random and him thinking he was poisoned by the fog machine was because he pressed the button. Charles overreacted thinking it was dangerous and poisoned. But no one could know that he would get stuck in the closet let alone that he would push the button. If you want to say someone locked him in there. It still doesn't change anything, locked him in and then did nothing? It did not appear that there was anything that could be construed as dangerous happening other than his own personal mental anguish.
Charles is a dick, all three of the podcasters are assholes really. I wouldn't say that Charles was uncaring towards Joys feelings, he clearly cared a lot about her, He was just focused on the thoughts in his head too much and not able to do both at the same time. I wouldnt even say Matthew had beef with Charles, Maybe Charles had beef with Matthew or even less Charles just held a grudge.
All three have some level of Celebrity Bloody Mabel is totally a thing, After the death of Bunny, She may be more of a celebrity than at least Oliver. Most of the younger generations like Lucy know who Bloody Mabel is but way fewer would know or care about Oliver the Producer. With the death at the end of the most recent season, the dark side of fame could deff be something I see them exploring.
Thanks for your response. Good points, some that I agree are possibilities & some that I don't. @@ScreenFavorites