Only Murders In The Building S3E8 Review and Breakdown
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- čas přidán 18. 09. 2023
- Here is a review and breakdown of OMITB Season 3 Episode 8: Sitzprobe
So much came to light and it left me with even more questions. Sorry for lots of rambling about ideas It is a longer video than I usually try to make. But there was just so much going on and I wanted to get all of it out there.
The music this season is so great this season. I love everything about it. The range of emotions from all the characters. It's beautiful.
I don't know who killed Ben Glenroy but after this episode I think there are only a few possibilities. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
@ymi2.02 I removed your comment, please even if it is something that is public information but not something shown within the show add a Spoiler Tag to the comment.
People may not want to know the information; I did not know the information and I wish I didn't. Give people the choice to see something that you know will change how they see things within the show.
Alright. I totally understand. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to spoiler anyone. For me it didn't really spoiler much. I just looked at it and for me it didn't solve the whole mystery since it wasn't obvious who the murderer is in the previous seasons either. I personally don't think that they would be stupid enough to give a hint on who's the murderer so soon. They wouldn't keep everything a secret but then throw this BIG hint at us. We will se. However, I apologize for giving away that information.
@@ymi2.02 Season 2 literally had a track named Poppy (I Know Who Did It). Reading the title to the track you sent isn't as direct but to me there is only one person that could be a reference to. So, what you think they won't accidentally or purposefully do is irrelevant. Always err on the side of caution.
I love talking with people about this show, but the ending of season two was spoiled for me and I'm afraid this one was too.
I learned over a month ago that Dickie was adopted. I didn't want to know that, but I couldn't pretend like I didn't know. It's hard not to talk about it when its integral to the show.
Now I can't pretend like I didn't see what you posted, I cannot in good faith give a new theory about who the killer is with that information. Yea it's possible the title doesn't tell us who the killer is but it could, and I think it does. Most people don't want to know anything outside of the show. Please in the future try to be careful.
@@ScreenFavorites But at least where I live the track in season 2 isn't named "Poppy (I know who did it)". It's called "Gone missing (I know who did it)". So for me there wasn't a real hint there. But maybe they changed the name? I don't know. However, I'm very sorry and will be more cautios in the future. I didn't mean to take your fun in figuring out who the murderer is. I was typing faster than I was thinking. I'm sorry
@@ymi2.02 They changed the track title, it’s ok! Just be careful what you say and where you say it 💙🧩🎭
Thanks for protecting us :D
I really liked this episode! I was happy to see Detective Williams back, and very relieved when Mabel, Oliver, and Charles joined forces again!
When Meryl Streep’s character confessed, my first thought was, “Well, she didn’t do it, we have two more episodes!”
I would never laugh at you for a theory! I’m always impressed by how much you notice and the connections you make!
It was an amazing episode! It's always a good time when the trio are together
I meant to add that I agree-watching Meryl Streep’s expressions in this episode was absolutely astounding!
@@PhoebeFayRuthLouise Meryl and Martin Short are giving some of the best acting of their careers in this season. From their date nite to this. It’s pure talent. Watching Meryl here shows why she is one of the greatest of all time.
Idk if Dickie knows but I think Ben knew. I think he thinks she'll use Dickie like he was, which is why he called her a snake, and he was trying to keep them apart because he wanted Dickie to himself.
This makes a lot of sense, I think it’s true but don’t know why she would tell him.
@@ScreenFavorites I don't think Loretta would have told Ben. He might have found the correspondence letters between his mom and Loretta. Maybe his parents caught him and told him not to tell Dickie, for whatever reason 🤔 🤷
Congrats to the theorists who were right about loretta and dickie 😁 Saw that one coming cause of what I read but still went ooohhhhhhhh
The live performances were SOOO good! Charles was so good I wanted to watch it again right away. What a huge plot twist for me! Haha
Hopefully Loretta is released before the play opens again. I think that if Cliff did it, then his mom will take the blame because she has cancer, but they will probably both end up in prison.
Very likely if Cliff did it, Donna will try to cover for him too. This last episode actually has me feeling bad for her :(
I saw someone else’s comment about how irked they were that Greg didn’t stay in prison because of what he did to Charles and Mabel. I know it’s probably just lazy writing, but an in universe explanation is that he’s released pending trial for his other crimes
It is a small oversight, as I dont think we will see Greg anymore. They could have just said murder charges were dropped. You brought up a perfect in universe explanation. I wouldnt fret anything about Greg anymore.
@@ScreenFavorites Yeah
OH i like the idea that Dickie unknowingly covered up the poisoning... that's absolutely brilliant!!!
Ben DOB: 1973
Dickie DOB: 1976
Ben may actually be Loretta's son. They swapped names or something.
Great observation! What if the proof of their real identities is what was shredded, hmmm 🤨
I take this as a continuity error, bad communication behind the scenes. It's hard to know what people will focus on like Bens tattoos, but this is a glaring one that they should have paid more attention to.
Loretta's letter is to Ritchie (Richard/Dickie) not to Ben. Swapping names would make things confusing for no reason. It's just a production mistake.
@ScreenFavorites I mean, this is quite possible. But if it is a continuity error, it's a big one! The bus ticket in the credits at the end of Ep 8 is shown as March 8th 1976. Ben's funeral poster in episode 2 reads: 1973-2023. Could they be lying? Sure. Could it be a mistake? Sure! I just need answers, dammit!
@CC-dz5mx someone actually pieced the shredded the documents together online. It's an insurance form that involves someone with a contract in the play. I did not see names but it stated that some amount of money had either been paid or was to be paid three times.
@@pugsleywugsley1845 interesting. That person is a saint, it had to take a long time to do.
If it’s the same document I was looking at during the patter song why did it look like the word CoBro was in it? Maybe I saw wrong.
The synopsis says the trio has a plethora of clues. I wonder if whatever the document is will actually tie into who killed Ben
An insurance form makes me think it belonged to Donna as she is the one funding the whole thing, she and Cliff are the only ones that deal with that side of the show.
The Producers theory was one of my first, but I gave it up after they agreed to make it a musical. But when Charles is nailing the performance and they look worried, it got me thinking it could be again. I thought Donna might have been trying to make Loretta nervous in the bathroom so she would mess up so Maxine would have something bad to write about. And Cliff could've hired MB knowing he'd be hard to work with.
But I find your cancer theory more sustainable.
I have a theory that Cliff is the murderer and was actually attempting to murder Donna. Somehow Ben accidentally recieved the cookies instead of Donna on opening night and got poisoned. Ben left the hospital too early and so he still had the poison in his system, which caused him to feel drowsy and fall down the elevator shaft by accident. A theme surrounding Ben is that he felt ashamed by his slightly young and immature image due to the wacky movies he did and the fact that he played a teenager at the age of 30. Cliff can also relate to this theme, because everyone around him views him as being very young, for example Ben called him “boy” when he was “apologizing” to everyone. Donna constantly treats Cliff like a kid, and therefore maybe Cliff was getting tired of this and wanted to produce on his own without his mom constantly over his shoulder. Also, in episode 8 when Charles is singing the patter song, they show Cliff on the side right as Charles sings the lyrics “He would bite the hand that feeds him with a sneer”. This could also be a clue to Cliff wanting to kill his own mom.
Ben deff could have gotten the cookies instead of Donna, but I don't like the idea of no one pushing Ben down the shaft, there is plausible deniability in that, and it has to be a strait murder.
I very much like the idea of Cliff wanting to get from under his mother's controlling thumb, this could very well be something.
Cliff is shown not when Charles sings "He would bite the hand that feeds him with a sneer" But right after when he sings "But could that Rotton tot be behind this evil plot" That shows that still shows Cliff could be behind what happened but taken by itself not necessarily related to his mother.
Though I think it has some small holes, this is by far one of my favorite theories I have read.
I think Whoever made or gave him the cookies is not the same person responsible for him eventually dying. Whoever pushed him down the shaft got the idea of doing so from Ben almost dying earlier.
@@ScreenFavoritesI also thought that maybe Ben somehow found out that Cliff was attempting to poison Donna and not him, and therefore Cliff pushed him down the elevator shaft in order to silence him. But I also agree that the pushing could be a whole different person from who did the poisoning!
@@sophiacharlotte This is very possible! Ben said to the cookies "you are not supposed to be here" Maybe hinting that they were meant for someone else.
I see lots people saying its Donna/Cliff and make good arguments to support the who, how, why and why now.. Only thing I dont like about that is its validating the Producers theory , which was floated at week 1 once it was known Broderick and Brooks would be making cameos. Wouldnt that be just very easy and obvious?
I think I state that in the most previous video that having multiple members of the cast in the show makes it a very obvious motive and overall I dont think that is happening at all. I think Donna only mentions money because of her bills.
I have a possible explanation for what seems to be a discrepancy in the end-credits bus ticket date.
Firstly, we know that Ben was born in 1973, according to the date on his picture at the funeral home, making him 50. And Dickie is a few years older, making his birth year 1972 or earlier. If the date of 8 Mar 1976 on the bus ticket clue is intentional & correct (i.e.not a production or prop error), then there is only one logical explanation: there are 2 sets of Glenroy parents who couldn't conceive! And the Glenroy couple Loretta gave her child to in 1976, are not the same Glenroy parents of Ben & Dickie! Loretta has been tracking the wrong person all these years thinking Dickie was her child!
Yes, I know it sounds preposterous but this is similar to the premise of "The Comedy of Errors" a play about the 2 sets of twins and mistaken identities, whose poster is hanging in Oliver's apartment (ep7).
Then I started looking at the letter Loretta received from her child's adoptive parents Michael & Eloise Glenroy, and the letter mentions "Richard" and that he is doing well, but the big clue is the post mark year on the envelope. It is kind of small & blurry but I think it says 1979, which would corroborate the bus ticket date of 1976 as the year Loretta gave up her child. This would mean neither Dickie nor Ben is Loretta's child. Michael & Eloise could be one half of twin brothers marrying twin sisters, and the other set of Glenroy parents could be Dickie's & Ben's parents.
Also means that the twin theory could be back in play ( pun intended 🙂)
I like this but I think it’s way too complicated to clear up in an episode.
Do we know what did Charles mean when telling Ben "I know wht you did" ? He also said leave her alone which was about Loretta but the other thing... I don't remember if it was solved?
I think there are 3 killers. Not sure who it was though
Tobert/Donna & Cliff?
Ben had pictures of himself in many places. So what if he's in the closet and being gay. What does that have anything to do with any of it.
My previous video "Did Donna Kill Ben Glenroy" is mostly about the idea that Ben was queer.
Ever notice the devil horns behind Toberts head at 11:04 in this video? In season 2 they did something similar when Poppy sat right under the poster "Who is Becky Butler"?
Yes! I t reminded me of Yellowjackets. They framed people behind Antlers multiple times. I want to think that it was a red herring because I will fight the writers if they gave Mabel a love interest who was the killer. She’s been through enough.
@@ScreenFavorites Agreed, that would break Mabel's heart! But notice that the horns are white - I think this hints at a connection to Cinda.
@@ScreenFavorites I love your kind heart. But would it? I think Mabel doesn't trust Tobert. That's why she crashed at Theo's. And used her phone for the first podcast.
Love the program. I do not think that Loretta is the killer
"Blood's Ben Test" caught that 😅
😂😂😂 I heard it when I was editing and said fuck it lol
Not Howard but Oliver had heart attack
Yes! I was speaking too fast and mixed up names.
I keep wondering about the "aunt Loretta" picture on the fridge. If the adopting parents kept in contact with her to send her pictures maybe they told Dickie she was his aunt and showed him pictures too. I wonder at what point he knew he was adopted?
It seemed like Loretta and that family were from a small town. Loretta left to "make it big" in NYC. When did the family move in order for Ben to be discovered at age 8 to be hired on for Brazzos? Someone said that Ben was born in '70 but the ticket was in '73, so maybe that was Ben/Dickie's ticket.
I'm still on my 3 people involved in the murder theory.
I think it'll be ambiguous. I think they just meant to pull a prank on Ben since he's always been doing them to others, as a way of getting even, probably separately and each thing culminating in a serious of unfortunate events that leads to his death. It could literally be anyone because Ben pissed a lot of people off.
I think the first death was staged, but if he was poisoned, whoever covered the tox report at the police station was the same who didn't run it for Tim Kono.
I think Tobert wants to work for Cinda and she's made a deal that if he can get Mabel to work for her, he can too. I think he was there offering a plate of cookies to Ben (and/or perhaps a secret lover). He's involved with something, somehow.
And I have more on the Howard being the long con killer responsible for all the other ones (Possibly inadvertently?) But I'll save that for another day 😆
Who is Dickies father, the director?
The director looks to be at least 10 years older than Loretta, it could be a few of the other directors we have met throughout the seasons, but I don't think Dickies birth father is important to the story or will be addressed.
Tobbert is a Documentarian, even when you don't see him, he's there. Tobbert did it. It is a waste having someone as iconic as Meryl Streep and not making her the killer.
That is true, but wouldn't having one of the biggest names in Hollywood be the murderer be too obvious?. It's like on law and order 9/10 the big name guest star is the bad guy lol
Shirley McClain was in last season and wasn’t the murderer. I don’t think it’s a waste the stars like the show and just want to be a part of it.