Jim Cornette Reviews Kenny Omega vs. Chris Jericho
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Brian’s reaction when Jim told him he watched the match is priceless
"Stagey" is actually a good way to describe Omega....he's a physically talented guy,great athlete but his timing and selling are sometimes cringey as hell
u mad
@@PatkaBoy831 he mad
SupremeMystique but why was omega getting ALL the credit for them??
Notice how now he’s not with actually talented wrestlers he cant elevate to his “supposed” level yet Okada raises everyone to a level above when he’s wrestled them
The best way to see if a wrestler is great in the ring is to see him make a great match with a horrible wrestle...
hellbender31 Says the person who’s never even wrestled for a company😂
Brians reaction is priceless
Alpha vs Omega was to me "the Chris Jericho show" from start to finish. (Promos, press conference, the match itself and even the post match) Jericho's approach to it were country miles ahead.
Jim Cornette: I just watched it I didn’t take any notes.
15 epic minutes later...
Remember this moment in history when jim said omega doesn't suck. 😂
He never said he didn’t suck, he has always praised him for being a great athlete, just not a great pro wrestler
Twinkle Toes. Cut out the goofy faces, the finger pointing, the seizures, unnecessary spots, and learn to cut a promo properly and learn to grab a hold. Do those things and Omega would probably be Cornette’s favorite wrestler
back when jericho still could go in the ring.
Omega entertains me and so does Cornette. Thumbs up.
They’re probably in cahoots bruh, hate listening is quite lucrative in this wimpy pc ass day we live in..
Because “it ain’t no Bobby Eaton punch” RIP Bobby Eaton.
"Obvious cooperation" is the exact reason why I hate alot of these bucks matches, you can clearly tell the opponent is waiting and helping their "rivals" complete devastating maneuvers against each other, I was watching alot of Ricochet matches with The Bucks n all them dudes, like why would you help you opponent land moves on u. I get that wrestling u have to cooperate with each other, but it shouldn't be so obvious. For example, like a choke slam, the opponent has to jump for the choke slammer,, but It is never noticeable. Wow obvious cooperation I could never out words to it but that is the exact problem with ALL OF AEW. Thank you Jim
To paraphrase Jim himself, it's not about having the best match or the most spectacular spots, it's about giving the people something they can believe in and emotionally invest in. That's how it's supposed to be anyway. It's why I can't get into the New Japan shit... stiff strikes and overly dangerous high spots do not impress me, especially when it looks too choreographed and you can tell they're working together.
No, people will never again believe that wrestling is a shoot but many of us as older fans know how it SHOULD be presented and since we rarely get that now from any promotion, we remain disillusioned and uninvested because they're so tongue-in-cheek about it being a work and making sure you see them taking the piss about it instead of respecting the business.
This is why I love to hear stories from guys like Cornette and Ron Fuller of their heydays when kayfabe was strictly upheld, they've practically romanticized it at this point. I long for when babyfaces and heels could be clearly differentiated and the fans bought in and lost themselves in it. You didn't care how many moves they did or how acrobatic they were, you were fixated on the things they DID do that all had meaning and purpose to illicit a reaction from the audience.
They do invest emotionally in Omega.
@@thatdude-xj4qe That's unfortunate.
@@robintst im not saying whether its a good thing or bad thing...im just saying some do..i meant no offense
Forgetting Kenny Omega for a second, and realizing you truly know f all about Japanese wrestling, it’s complexities, and divergent styles in different promotions:
Imagine being so pretentious enough, to think YOUR American way of doing wrestling, is the *Golden Rule* of wrestling…
Laughable😂
Love Acadian Vanguard & TY 4 GR8/CREDIBLE Content.
Is there anyway you could make a playlist of ALL of Jim's match reviews?
I'm getting back into the ring and whatever match I see that Jim's reviewed:
--I watch the match
-then listen to review
📝each time is like learning a fucking term paper in the
Wrestling business.
TY GUYS & TY JIM
In NJPW they don't throw punches, they throw palm strikes and forarm strikes. They know if someone throws a punch,you would have a puffed up eye,so they don't throw worked punches.
All that tells me is they aren't talented enough to throw worked punches
Thank you ken. I get so tired of hearing Cornette complain about a modern style as if it's failing at the classic one. Why should he learn how to throw "good punches" when punching isn't conducive with his style? And if he does become great at it, then what? Then incorporate it into his style? Change his style to be more like guys 30 years ago and sacrifice his unique signature style that's made him the biggest wrestler outside the WWE?
So fucking stupid.
+chet michael they know how dumb fuck. Do you? No. So shut the fuck up.
+78bcat clearly you're too much of a dipshit to understand the original comment's explanation and you don't understand Japanese style of wrestling. It's done on purpose you casual. I assure you they know how to throw worked punches. Something you would know nothing about.
In fact, worked punches used to be banned entirely in the US as well precisely because even children can tell they're faker than three dollar bill, while it's easy to make open hand strikes and forearms/elbows look impressive while being safe.
I would love to see jim cornette talking about Katsuyori Shibata
Katsuyori Shibata is such a rising star
@@nukeninmgt1504 rising star? Shibata? Dude's a legend.
@@colonelkenpachi5009
Maybe some day he could win the title.
Maybe.
@@nukeninmgt1504 wasn't that the plan to begin with.
I would love to see cornette shut up
It was a 3 star match at best. Jericho had better matches with HBK and Crispen Wah.
yeah, 20 fucking years ago lmao
obviously he's going to change his style as he gets older
Crispin Wah? You mean Chris Benoit (pronounced Ben-Wah)?
wow jim was way nicer to kenny then than he is now lol
Hearing this 4 years later, after Jericho has been the black hole of opponents charisma & Omega just being awful.
Holy fk. Yes lol
Cornette is spot on here. Omega is exactly nothing but a goof playing wrestler.
I agree Jericho ran the whole thing. As far as comparing to the Almas match I cant get behind. I agree personally the match is better, they are also two different beasts, so both will be memorable. At the same time, Omega could have been anyone and the result would be the same. We aren't even into 2018 for two months and we've had some great wrestling moments and matchups. As a fan, I'm good with that so far.
What a difference 3 years makes
Not really.
Both are just older and uglier.
I’m not a huge fan of the Omega/Bucks style of matches for the most part because I just feel there’s too much in them that essentially nothing matters. But I also recognize that not all styles are for everyone. I think I’d like this style of a match if they didn’t do this every single match they have. I’ve enjoyed some of their matches from AEW here and there but get over it if I see them frequently in a short time.
I think this style was adopted largely because they were usually on independent shows where the same people weren’t seeing their matches every single week. So you go out like this because you essentially have new people consuming your match every time and thus the style doesn’t get old for fresh audiences. I think this has been an issue for being on a weekly show because the style gets overdone if you see it constantly. I also think it’s more appealing live than it is on television or PPV. I went to an AEW tv a few years ago when I was regularly following the company and saw Omega in an iron man match live and it was pretty fun to see all of that live. I found it enjoyable in that setting more than I ever have on TV.
Cornettes right. This didnt hojd a candle to things like austin/bret or HBK/taker, etc
Exactly right about A.J. Omega is nowhere in Styles league.
"So much of it was just laying around" even though Corny's favourite style of wrestling involves ten minutes of a face trying to get out of an armlock.
n a Unbelievably*.... or Unbelievable, Stupid.....*
You need to watch some more old school wrestling
If you think that’s what Cornette likes, you either: haven’t been paying attention, or you’re just lying to make yourself feel better, because Cornette doesn’t like your favourite wrestlers.
Either way, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
There’s a difference between selling the effects of a move, and the tiredness of a match; to laying around for hours, like you’ve been trampled by horses, because you think, the longer a match goes, the better it will be considered.
@@ThisCharmingMan1984 Talk about "lying to make yourself feel better" oldschool wrestling put a huge focus "selling" for ridiculous periods of time, it's not even an exaggeration that they'd have 10 minute armbars. Also, pretty sure Cornette is a fan of some of my favourites but again, keep lying to make yourself feel better 🤣
The last match was was better. I'm really surprised that Cornette tuned in to AXS T.V. Why is Cornette still bringing up the missed ROH show???
Because it was unprofessional as hell.
Ever known Cornette to let anything go?
Why would someone when it's harmful to your business and/or job?
maxx cat very true. If Omega was to except an award in Japan even though he was injured he should have been an adult and talked to Cornette like a man. He would've reverted to the Cowboy and called Omega a "flake" but maybe he'd do business with him again in the future.
Agreed, Clifton and no shows are incredibly harmful to a company, especially ones much smaller than WWE.
This was all Jericho.
Lets hope Kenny the Clown actually learned something about actual wrestling from one of the absolute best ever in Jericho.
Cornette hating
comments based on old observations
people grow, people learn, people change
Hey Jim! FYI punching is against the rules. Lol
The days before he was Kenny Olivia
Joey G its a double Entendres..Kenny is very much a woman named Olivia so its all applicable
Olivier
7:54
11:45---
Jericho could work a decent match with the proverbial broomstick. I hope Omega learned a thing or two.
and omega could work a four star match with a blowup doll i'm just glad jericho kept up
@Nicklas Mudymba thnx I love the support.
@Aywoon Vurchio I'm at home my man...Quarantine but I appreciate the vitriol
Agree with Jim on this. Very similar description to John Cena minus the hair! The bad facial expressions, over reactions, overly staged, phony and contrived.
@Joey G Cena was artificially over. Unless you believe that the toddlers and fetuses wearing John Cena t shirts are actually his fans or have any idea what they're watching.
@Joey G 10 of those reigns were in between 2010 and '13.
2.5 world title reigns per year. None of which were memorable at all. The only title reign of Cena I remember is when he won the title in MITB and lost it to Lesnar in a very satisfying way.
Generally someone who's over with the fans would have proper title reigns like Sheamus, Punk or Batista had.
@Joey G If you find Cena's titles reigns memorable, then why don't you name the guys he faced in his 5th title reign ? Or the 11 th ?
Or why not say how he lost his 8th world title ?
@Joey G I'm sorry dude. Ric Flair is not the greatest world champion ever.
There is no greatest world champion ever.
Except cena is waaaaayyyyy better than olivier
Omega needs to slow down and have more matches like this. Minus the can/goofy shit.
I guarantee you Omega would not go over Jericho if this match had been in W.W.E. Or any other promotion except maybe Lucha Underground or R.O.H.
He will get the win back in AEW
The build was 5 stars. But the match was alright. I like Kenny Omega because when he cuts the horseshit he is really good. Stagey is the perfect word for him. Omega imo isnt in Kazuchika Okada's or Tetsuya Naito's league.
Wrestling today reminds me of stand up comedy in the internet age: Used to be a comedians comedian was the guy who made comics laugh and not many others, so they found work, but could NEVER draw an audience...but fast forward to the internet age and now these comics gain cult followings, then they get a podcast, and now they're stars. Nevermind they can't land a special, a TV show, or movie...their fans insist they're bigger than that. Indie wrestlers are the equivalent to a comedians comedian
78bcat Interesting Analodgy. I think Omega would be a star if he was in WWE but no more than Kevin Owens or AJ Styles
It felt like a kung-fuey match to me. It felt like if Hong Kong action films, American hardcore wrestling and Japanese wrestling kind of mixed up into a crap shoot.
Chris J is a talented guy yes. Agree with Jim and Brian on Omega. To kiddy kid theatrical. Rather see talented 6-5 275lb Plus some what agile monsters like Hall or Sid kicking ass. Can go to Wal-Mart to watch 5-8 175lb. Spike Dudley's fighting. Must be age thing 70s Thru Atitude era then tapped out. Vince and Jim understood the bigger wrestler thing. One of reasons Hall and Kane so over. "We ain't friends fu** the cheap bastards." Lol
Brian Neeley Kane was over cuz his character not cuz of his size. And the 80s was a bunch of fat fucks who couldn't go 30 mins cuz they knew seven fuckin holds and had to depend on managers to get them heat.
Taking Cornette's opinion Omega is like listening to a muscle-car fan talk about F1. Fun and all, but he fundamentally, possibly on purpose, misses the point. Omega is fun to watch. More fun than listening to Jim's rants.
Omega is everything wrong with Wrestling nowadays.
@@ikeborgterraxan1976 Omega has great match with Jericho: *It’s all Jericho*
Omega has Excellent matches with Okada: *It’s All Okada*
Omega has excellent match with Danielson: *It’s all Danielson*
Im seriously not that big of a fan of Omega (many better), but man the amount of “hate cope” in comments like yours, is astounding.
Best match od the year
He does know Almas was a huge guy in NJPW....right?
Yes, he does.
Cornette is the walking talking professional Wrestling encyclopedia on it's entire history.
He's the Simon Cowell of wrestling and is to Wrestling what Eddie Trunk is to Heavy Metal.
Even if you don't like cornette....
There's no denying that.
Omega is a complete embarrassment to the sport.
Rofl you're crazy. Kenny is great!
Hey King David Omega sucks and is an embarrassment to the business!
I love Corny but hes stubborn and biased against Omega. He referred to his "whiny voice'". That's bs. He's got the raspy voice.
No tf he doesn't
I'll kinda agree with Him on the match, it was a bit slow paced and had a few goofy spots. The way I see Omega is in between Him and the smarks, I think he's a good worker and has had some great matches(him vs Naito at G1 semis is my favorite) but he's not the best in the world. I can see why Jim would not like the guy but at the same time why hold a grudge? He did some silly shit long time ago but he's not the same guy now. You can tell Corny gas a distain for Omega so if course he won't give him any props.
Cornette cant get over one incident and he is literally old man yells at cloud.
Awful Waffle so if gargano to come to raw and wrestled a 10/15 minute match with a blowup doll would you take him seriously again???
@@peterlee6374 Ibushi did it
he listed at least 3 incidents actually
The match was too over top. Overselling and overacting. But that's Kenny Omega
"the match was too over the top. Overselling and overacting. But that's Shawn Michael's"
Anyone who watched WWF 90' - 95'
Aywoon Vurchio Yeah Shawn Michaels Vs Hulk Hogan wants to have a chat with you....
Aywoon Vurchio Ok I never said Kenny was better,I brought up an example of complete over selling and at least Kenny doesn’t cry and throw hissy fits when he has to lose. Have a good day marky mark.
@@drewski103 Lmao
You actually comparing Shawn to Omega?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I would like to see bullet CLUB review smw roh ovw because never drew shit as a booker
January 2021 update: Omega still can't punch.
And Jericho has prison raped his legacy...
@@arnavbhagwat4232 😂😂😂😂😂
@@arnavbhagwat4232 LMAOOO
Top 5 in the World right now:
Styles
Okada
Omega
Owens
Naito
GranTyrant pretty good list...I'd replace Owens with heel Neville if he was active or Charlotte Flair
Owens? Nah, no way. Zayn can have a good match with anyone. Owens can't.
Owens has better psychology than anyone in the world except maybe Naito. That's an important element. He's def better than Zayn as body of work. I'm not just going by potential, I'm also considering actual success and popularity as well. Owens is the best heel in the biz
GranTyrant Lol oh man, the KO nut huggers exaggerate more than any other.
Katsuyori Shibata
they can't punch
You can get a stoppage. Dumnass
I think he's over rated too. I don't care to see the same move over and over either and he'll hit the "V-Trigger" 17 times in 1 match. It gets annoying and makes the move seem ineffective. I think he has a lot of potential though. I'm way more impressed with Pentagon, Ray Fenix, the Young Bucks and Austin Aries personally
Bro the young bucks are just as bad as omega
I love Jim, but I couldn't disagree more with him more here.
Kenny is trash he exposes the buissnes every chance he gets wrestling a 9 year old girl and a blow up doll in front of people shit like that kills the buissnes and makes people like me embarrassed to be a fan
@@jessieb9384 the business has been exposed for 30 years🤣🤣🤣
Jfc
Jim Cornette hates everything that is cool
Or you just enjoy dumb witted bullshit and run with the flock on everything so you are not labeled “a hater” or “Irrelevant” lol 🤔
Chris Jericho is a genius? I don't see that.
just here to comment, not to listen cause i know exactly what Jim is going to say. You don't like Omega, I get it. Move on.
You don't like Jim's opinion on Omega but still had to comment. Move on.
ShowtimeDr which is exactly what I did. Commented, moved on. Glad you noticed.
Yet you're still here. And not moved on.
maxx cat because every comment equals 1 view whether I listen or not. Still supporting the channel.
Wow thinking anyone gives a fuck about 1 view. Move on.
Please change that God awful intro music.
The Intro is great, I’m sure Jim got that off a 45 he has in his vault
I love it. I hum it for the rest of the day after hearing it a few times.
Omega is nowhere the best wrestler in the World. He would probably barely crack the top 100.
This is the weakest troll job ever lmao
I agree
I can't stand watching him. AJ Styles is a thousand times better than omega
Suck off mate
Omega is the only really good wrestler today. I didn’t watch wrestling for 10 years and he was the first guy to make me not switch the station.
Lmao he is terrible
Sorry but as of NOW,Omega has better matches than Styles.
Jericho hasn't been GOOD since WM26 against Edge.
Revival isn't that great as he portrays
hahaha!!!look at the „kids“now!!!run their own company the first ppv was sold out in 4 minutes!!!and the matches were amazing!!!!jim cornette stucks in the late 80s!!!
el pedro that freak show casino Royale was “amazing” was it?? fuck off it was a pile of shit even vince wouldn’t book!!!
Jericho v omega was nowhere near as good as their NJPW match
Bucks v Lucha bros was like any other match they’ve ever done same spots over use of of the Canadian destroyer making it just look a move they do to “look cool” instead of wow that looks like it might legit hurt
Cody v Dustin was a good match and actually told a story instead of having to rely on over the top flips to “get over”
The rest was just ok nothing special and stuff you have seen elsewhere
It sold out because it was hyped as being the return of “real pro wrestling” yet the first thing you saw was that horse shite gimmick battle royal that somehow MJF and hangman came out looking good!!!
It was a over hyped Indy show for the Indy smarks
And hows that held up? AEW is garbage. Cornette was right then, is now and has never waivered in his opinion
Yeah.
And how long did it last? Lol
he didn't see the match .that's why Jim don't work for any one.
He don't work for anyone because he makes just as much working for himself you nimrod.