Jim Cornette on Booking Kenny Omega & The Young Bucks
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Corny, don't bring Ovaltine into your heat with the Bucks. Ovaltine is delicious and didn't do anything wrong to anybody.
I would have loved to see vintage paul london and brian kendrik against the bucks, it wouldn't be a technical masterpiece but it would be the craziest shit ever.
DeathMetalRob Oh man what a match
It happened several times
Young Bucks vs Motor City Machine Guns.
It would have been the tag team trained by Shawn Michaels (London & Kendrick) vs the tag team trained by Marty Jannetty (Young Bucks).
I swear the younger young buck looks like the middle edd from Ed,Edd and Eddie. Too sweet.
I'll never be able to look at Double D the same......
The Young Bucks managed by Vince Russo vs Joey Ryan & Kenny Omega in a best of 3 falls Dick spot match, with a 9 year old girl ref. Get it booked, Jim!
i dont know if Joey Ryan can be around 9 year old girls... i dont think Vince Russo could either.
You gotta put Joey janela somewhere in there. It would also have to be broadcast by Kevin dunn and booked by Jim Herd and commented by Ed Ferrara and Mark Madden
Kenny Omega and the young bucks could be the three Doinks in WWE. They are all clowns so its perfect. Three Doinks and Hornswoggle as Dink. The carnival shows up to face Bray Wyatt and Alexa Bliss...
I’ll sub in for any of the clowns if it means taking a bronco buster from Alexa Bliss.
The Rock and Roll Express are over again on NWA Powerrr, RnR Express can be over in any era.
Again, it simply comes down to Corny's idea of wrestling is two guys that hate each other trying to beat the shit out of each other. The key is realism, pure and simple. That, no matter how much you agreed that wrestling was fake when you were away from it, when you were watching, you thought "damn, these motherfuckers really don't like each other and really want to kill each other."
The stuff Corny has a problem with is the stuff that does what he calls "exposing the business." Anything that pulls back the curtain on that realism. Stuff like moves where it's obvious the guy on the receiving end is helping the other wrestler. Someone flipping someone else with their dick isn't very realistic.
I don't get the Young Bucks. It's like someone playing The Hardy Boys in a video game and just spamming buttons.
That is OK!!! I get them and Millions of fans Get Them!!!
@@ltdee1970 Millions is a huuuuuuge stretch
@@ltdee1970 Awe. Fanboys.
@@ltdee1970 that would be impressive if millions more didn’t change the channel anytime they’re on. I like a lot of AEW’s stuff, and I watch when I can. Luckily it’s usually on DVR that I watch it because I fast forward the second they come out.
Whats wrong with playing video games? It's entertainment just like movies and tv shows.
Chase Redd yeah hes bringing in new fans. Video games are awesome
New fans? He couldn't draw flies to month old garbage.
Back in the 90s gaming was viewed as more of a nerd pastime, gamers were viewed as not very sociable people (outcasts). Now its so mainstream and the gaming industry is HUGE. This generation especially have taken gaming to a whole new level. You can make good money just being a full time gamer ( e.g. NINJA) It is way more appreciated than before, just look at E-sports. Also many wrestlers are gamers too such as AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Seth Rollins, the Rock etc. Kenny is a really good gamer and attends these events, he's putting more attention on NJPW and Pro wrestling while also showing his passion for video games.
Fuckin big ol fax Jim’s just out of touch
Games have sucked for years... kinda like wrestling now.
It's good to see how well Cornie's comments here have aged. MLW featuring Jim Cornette has gone on to be a major national threat to the WWE. They even have a broadcast deal with CZcams. Meanwhile, AEW's events take place either in bingo halls or half-empty arenas.
The last laugh goes to Cornie for anyone who thought he was just a delusional old mark stuck in the 70s with zero in-ring experience aside from the time he shattered his ankles after deciding landing feet first was the best way to break a 30-foot fall from a scaffold.
I think it's a bit preemptive to call AEW a "major national threat" to the WWE.
Before you release your impulse "WwE FaNbOi HaHaHA!1!1" knee jerk reaction, I HOPE that AEW can be legitimate competition to WWE, because WWE definitely needs it.
But the reality is, they're not. If they don't come up with far better storytelling and get rid of a lot of these indy types that are going to turn off channel flipping fans who aren't in that core group, they'll implode in a couple years.
Dude has been in/around/ the business for decades, he knows a lot more than your AEW stanning ass does
Please do tell me the best way to fall from a 30 foot scaffolding. Very intrigued😂
AEW is doing 4x worse than WCW was in its dying days, meanwhile Cornette has been at the highest levels of the business consistently til his draw down
Say what you want, MLW has been the most consistently watchable wrestling promotion in America for the past decade.
The Young Bucks would have been completely destroyed by teams in the 70's & 80's.
David Scott thank you that’s what I’ve been saying and I’m a fan of them
Good think it’s not the 70s and 80s and they’re doing amazingly well
David Scott they’re the best tag team in the world
@@btmz1753 get out of here. They aren’t even the best tag team in their own promotion. They aren’t the SECOND best tag team in their own promotion.
I would love to see Young Bucks vs Road Warriors vs The Steiners in a triple threat tag team match.
the main event stars of the attitude era/monday night wars all worked in the territories and were trained by legitimate wrestlers who had decades of experience, i think goldberg is the only exception to the rule, wrestling will never come back because no one will be properly trained and the jerkoffs won't be weeded out
I had to get weed & beer for this one.
WWE made a joke of the business, stop giving the Indy guys shit for everything being done in the business.
Clifton Smith Just about. People are trying to make something of the wasteland made from Vince's spite.
Totally agree. Bischoff definitely helped by turning WCW into WWF lite in the mid-90’s. I often wonder what would have happened if Ted Turner had just entrusted the wrestling side to the right people instead of bringing in ex Pizza Hut management.
Vince signs Kenny:
V: Alright Kenny, were gonna put the strap on you!
K: Oh, Mr Macmahon thank you. You won't regret this!
V: And here's the ball-gag...
Scenario 2.
V: Ok Kenny were booking you to win the title...
K: Oh Mr MacMahon, you won't regret this thank you!
V: The 24/7 title.
K: Fuck this company!
V: Hey, asshole!
Jesus, imagine if they pulled some of their antics under Bill Watts or Ole.
Sideburns would be smacked off!
which antics would those be? the fun/great matches? or selling the most popular shirt in the business?
Doing stupid shit. "Fun/great" matches is only in the eyes of the virgin neckbeards with a severe case of arrested development.
Still waiting to hear what this "stupid shit" is.
+ryan phillips or maybe all that money they bring in or that drawing ability
Ole kicked Tony Atlas out of a territory for having "The Best Match on the Card" with a prelim guy that was half his size.
Ole or Bill would more realistically have throw or shit in the alley and watch what was left of them drag themselves out to get it.
they run their own company who would book whom
You know what I said ... when Kenny wrestled that 9 year old girl... I said Mad skills .. why no injuries.
More like hotep Oreo cookie language mix it up a little lol
Lol I like cornette at least he honest
I really hope these goofs are out of the business soon. They do nothing but make a complete joke of it.
Well said David they don't get prowrestling it's psychology, ability to tell a real story what it is, can and should be. all they want to do is spots and gimmicks to entertain a bunch of similar minded halfwits it's the ruin of the wrestling business and they don't have the brains to see how clueless they are and the damage they are doing
Then go watch ufc dumbo
I like video games too but Corny's right Kenny omega needs his ass whooped and thrown out of the wrestling business.
Mike Bennet and Maria Kanellis bigger stars then the Bucks? Don't be ridicolous.
You have to remember when he's talking about. This was when he was booking ROH so around 2006-2008 when Maria was done with WWE and Playboy so yes, she was by far and away the biggest star of the bunch.
Mike? No. Maria? Certainly.
But she was pure eyecandy, wasn't she!? I can't remember her wrestling any matches. And to book a vallet instead of a highly talented tag-team is pretty shitty imo. Especialy if your a compan which sells itself as "real wrestling, not sports entertainment".
A valet being a star, at least in an old school mindset, makes whoever they manage a similar star, lending them legitimacy. I wouldn't say that applies as much to modern wrestling, because people don't view managing as a "legitimate" role, but rather as an attempt by the booker to cover up a worker's weaknesses. That said, Bennett had the look and mannerisms to draw some money, but not in a company like ROH. Fundamentally, Jim still doesn't seem to get that was the problem with his time booking the company, he was trying to turn the product into something it really wasn't. The audience ROH had, and the only one it ever would and will, cares much more about an "exciting match" than drawing heat, or starpower. From Jim's perspective however, yes, Bennett was more useful to the style he was booking than The Young Bucks.
Again, this was before the YB were anything. Compare booking just another tag team or a guy with an ex-WWE uber-hottie. Now, if you're talking about the YB today, it would be different.
Does Jim not realize every version of pro wrestling is goofy bullshit? I'm sorry but Hogan pinning people with a fucking legdrop or the Rock with the People's Elbow is just as ridiculous a superkick party. These old time carnies like Jin need to watch more boxing and MMA so they can understand that all pro wrestling is silly.
Love Corny but I gotta agree here. Hogan was pinning guys in 2005 with a fucking leg drop while they were kicking out of RKO’s and people looked past it for nostalgia. Wrestling is goofy bullshit and it’s up to fans to find which goofy bullshit they like.
yeah a 300 pound man bringing his leg down onto someone's neck really is goofy
Jim "Im old and I dont like new things" Cornette
Dustin "I'm a triggered virgin neckbeard who is upset that a legend in the business doesn't think highly of some overrated indie wrestler" Michel
The Masked Heel dude you commented on on my comment lol talk about triggered lol now go unmask yourself and go back to the Carnival.
The butthurt is strong with you.
Lol ur so fun what else do u do. Come on this is great.
They all suck.
He's right if Brock did go in to business for him self he'd just be off air, and have no more matches.
It party as your have to be able to trust the other men in the ring, even in UFC you need to know that the other guy will keep to the rules.
Gotta say yes. Hardy vs edge, Vince vs Hart/Hogan. Vince hiring bischoff . K Sullivan vs He who shall not be named. Jericho vs Goldberg, etc....
Those are just a few I can think of from my lifetime. Where guys we at least thought had real world heat. Put aside their differences for the good of the business ($$$$).For the fans those matches are almost like taking a time machine back 50yrs. If he thought about it for awhile.....I think he would even work for Russo. If he felt it was good for business
"Drink their Ovaltine" Fucking dead.
I wonder what Jim's reaction will be if Kenny wins the title next month
Kenny winnin' the title next month? what title? He ain't winning any title next month
+Jack Doomsday what are you talking about, he's challenging okada for the iwgp heavyweight title at dominion in the tie breaker from their series last year
i know geek, that's why i have written " He ain't winning any title next month". Learn to read properly.
@@JaculaDudek This opinion didn't age well.
Corny hates all wrestling that's not 1986 NWA... He hates clowns but he wrestled a Ninja Turtle and worships the Memphis territory when they booked Batman
Triggered neckbeard alert.
@@therealmaskedheel Whats the meaning of this neck beard thing? Is that an inside term?
Neckbeard......
@@tware7162 More of an internet one. Slang for people who have no lives, being on the internet 24/7 ranting about nonesense like pro wrestling, in this case.
He doesn’t though. He’s a huge fan of FTR, has had them on his show and puts them over every chance he gets. He likes the Briscoes, Rest in Peace to Jay.
So there is current stuff he likes, it’s just that there is so much trash in the business that there’s more to criticize than there is to compliment. Why do you think that even presenting an ostensibly “different” product it didn’t keep any of the lapsed fans it initially drew in? Because they’re doing exactly what alienated the core NWA audience when WCW bought Jim Crockett; trying to be WWF/E lite. Lapsed fans don’t really want more sports entertainment, they could get that from WWE if that’s what they wanted to see. As someone who actually watches a fair amount of AEW, they do a lot different from WWE in so many ways, but their presentation is not indicative of this, and most fans aren’t me who care far more about promo quality and ring psychology than they do overall presentation. Standing out MATTERS and AEW is making a mistake by not spinning off ROH to be it’s own thing as “the rasslin’ brand,” if they’re intent on keeping AEW as “sports entertainment.” Because there IS a pretty sizable market out there who want mat based, believable professional wrestling. Why do you think everyone who has even a passing interest in wrestling is so high on MJF? Because he can do it all and takes himself seriously. If a majority of performers presented themselves in a more serious manner (I do believe there is room in the business for guys like Orange Cassidy and ESPECIALLY Danhausen, but it can’t be more than 25% of your card) then more people would be willing to play along. Cody’s promo with Paul Heyman from a week or two ago basically proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
wow, jim would book omega.
It's not 1988 anymore
Your right it's not 1988 because I'd it was their would be no complaining.
Sadly not. We are in the wasted decades of the 10's.
Jim has lost his booker and business sense, if they'll draw then you book them that's business.great example Konnan fucking hated Vampiro in AAA but he drew money, Konnan worked with him because end of the day he's helping him and the boys sell tickets.
Not necessarily, look at AEW now. The initial draw had no longevity and these three have been exposed for the wimpy little dorks they are. I’d love to bully them.
LMAO probably some random wrestler could come out with some Ovaltine and some Xbox controllers and draw bigger houses than the Hipster Buck Doofuses
Bucks are garbage. The truth hurts. And they don't draw. Name one time they've drawn on top, more than like 2,000 fans. A couple of times vs the Hardys?
Mandi Miller google ALL IN bud
Boy did this comment age horribly
@@rickylopez9323 To be fair Bucks were not the draw... Cody was..
@@xXxInFaMYxXx yep
The Bullet Club Invented Professional wrestling💯
Too Sweet Me🤘🏼
Ballet club.
The Bucks are a decent team but they can't be taken seriously. Omega is nothing but a goofy ass joke pretending he's a wrestler. Put Kenny the moron in the ring with someone who takes the business serious & I guarantee it ain't gonna last too long. He is an absolute insult to the business who doesn't even belong at ringside much less in the ring with men who actually do respect the business.
I mean Kenny has been put in the ring with people who take wrestling seriously and has had 5-star matches. And plenty of the best have been in goofy angles, and dumb matches. I mean Ric Flair is one of the Goats, and he had a lot of corny things about him, like elbow dropping his jacket. Wrestling can push boundaries and be awesome for that.His series with Okada is peak New Japan. I can get why people may not like a match or two in his resume, but to me, he's earned respect for being a world class wrestler that hasn't sold out to Vince and WWE, where inevitably he'd be watered down and ruin his indie cred.
And honestly, if you say that about the young bucks, what other tag team do you think is more over, and respectable then?
@@PKdororo Omega is world class alright. A world class Jackass. He should be barred from wrestling period. And the Bucks? Lets see The Hardys, the Revival, The Bar need I say more?
I agree with Cornette in 98% of everything he says on the podcasts, but in this regards, he's full of shit. Omega is arguably the biggest Indy star in the world, and he draws money.
I think Cornette seems to underestimate what some of these promotions/wrestlers actually draw in terms of money, if not fans. NJPW isn't exactly a low budget indie, especially in their home market.
John O but he has proven to be a draw. That’s not an opinion. That’s just a fact. Why else would NJPW push him so hard? They put the top title in the company on him and it’s not common for NJPW to put the heavyweight title on a gaijin is a big deal. Kenny is clearly a big money draw and if you say otherwise, you’re just wrong because this isn’t opinion, it’s an actual fact. You may just be a troll because your comment was so idiotic, but I thought I would clear things up for ya ;)
@John O Lol, Brock isn't a talent? Even Cornette would tell you that you're a moron for thinking that. It's hilarious that you're out here calling others "marks", when you have been worked so hard by Lesnar's character on TV that you think that is actually who he is as a competitor. Pathetic.
@@Gcool243 well, he definitely wasn’t their biggest draw when they put the belt on him. They had big plans to expand into the western market and thought Omega would be an excellent star to do it with, which I do agree with. Hence why when he left they pretty quickly put the title on Switchblade. AEW did kind of throw a bit of a monkey wrench into their expansion plans, because AEW targeted the exact niche that NJPW would have been aiming for with their western expansion. Since before AEW opened up there was a huge void in American wrestling for high quality in ring work with unscripted promos. Do I think AEW is booked pretty poorly and isn’t shaping up to be what it could have been? Yeah, sadly I do believe this to be the case, but NJPW had no way of knowing how AEW would pan out at the time, so they were very hesitant to push into a new market when there was suddenly a second big money competitor in the American market.
so for jim cornette maria kanellis was a bigger star than the bucks, mmmmh...
weremaniac well 5 years ago she was a bigger star then the bucks...she was on WWE television for years when the bucks were most likely wrestling at somebody’s pool party for free
To everyone, bud
Jim trashes them just to get attention. Sorry Jim your time has past
Awe. poor loser fanboy.
To Omega's credit, he's stopped the silly shit. The Bucks have gotten a lil bigger since moving up to heavyweight but still silly. They're awesome for pro wrestling and I don't agree with Cornette.
The bucks to me are the fun part of wrestling there are having a lot of fun and portray their characters. Kenny is just being himself aswell and you truly connect with him not just US fans but Japanese fans
You'd be wrong.
The Bucks really shouldn’t be beating guys like FTR and Lucha Bros. The size difference is just too extreme when people have been exposed to MMA and know what a massive advantage a heavyweight would have against a middleweight.
"kids these days with their video games and the Bucks are so cocky" this boomer getting worked hard by the Bucks.
He’s wrong thx
What's he wrong about I agree with everything Jim said
@@jessieb9384 really ok.
Considering what's on AEW, he's very right
Everything that Cornett loves is out of business and what he hates is whats syill making money. At what point do u sit down and say to yourself i really dont know shit
Sorry, Jim , but that boring, hick 80’s Wrasslin’ crap would have no chance in today’s world.
Watch NWA Power asshole.
Jim Cornette is irrelevant and living in the past and that's why he's so bitter.
Stay in asia ginger.
@@NintendoPsycho My location nothing to do with Cornette being irrelevant and bitter. And if playing Nintendo is making you Pyscho I think you need to try some better games.
@@gingerinasia5806 Your wrestling sucks buddy. Cornette is right.
@@NintendoPsycho My Wrestling?! What are you talking about?
Shut up stupid idiots
Jim cornette is the biggest hater, evolve with the times or die stay away from wrestling Jim your time has never existed
Fuck off neckbeard.
Kenny not the best??! Wtf is Cornette watching??
agree with everything Corny says about omega and those other 2 dumbfucks
@@michaelm4950 yeah the two dumbfucks has their own wrestling company now.
@@ghostfacefrmscream Tony Khan owns it you mean because he's funding but I wish them well with aew I will be watching
Actual wrestling not cosplay bullshit that you watch.
Jim Cornette just doesn’t get the new age of wrestling it’s not like it was in his time it’s evolved and he needs to change with the time
Devolved*
Problem is the "new age of wrestling" is 90% shit.
Fanboys....
Way to evolve; losing the vast majority of the people who used to give a shit about wrestling, with ratings dwindling further and further…it’s just lucky that humanity didn’t evolve like wrestling, or our species would have fucking died out a long time ago.
@@ThisCharmingMan1984 man i was really stupid 2 years ago I don’t even remember saying this
Jim Cornette is so Wrong!!!! Kenny Omeaga and The Young Buck alone can sell out 15000-25000 areas!!!