Best Falling Block Rifle of All Time
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Here it is 2022 . Martin is now making his rifles in Canada . I purchased a rifle from him last month . Am shopping for one of his falling blocks in 6.5x55 Swede now. Have Ruger#1 in 25/06 , Winchester Hi-wall in 25/06 , Pedersoli trapdoor in 45/70 , and a Browning 1885 low-wall in .243 . Along with 2 1870 breech block Enfields . I was looking at buying a rolling block Remington , but nixed it after hearing rolling block accidents .
Hi Bill - You're unstoppable! ; great that you bought a Hagn; as for the rolling block - I have three and they seem to be remarkably strong and safe; or maybe I'm lucky. As you know the rolling block was adopted as a military rifle. My favorite is a baby rolling block from Italy in .22 Hornet. Good luck and good shooting Bill!
Thank you Mike for sharing these beautiful examples of craftsmanship and simplicity; a beautiful collection.
Thanks Rich!
I inherited a Ruger No 1 International (Mannlicher-style full stock) from my dearly departed father. Chambered in 30-06. It's feather-light and kits like a mule, but I love it.
how much you want for that????? i own many mannlicher style stocker gun. a winchester model 70 that is super rare in 308 and a ruger m77 in 243 and a ruger 10/22 mannlicher also. my favorite stock is mannlicher they look amazing on any rifle. I just picked up a cz with that stock in 22lr.
@Dan Flynnwhat is use for the front sling swivel is a leather piece wrapped around the flat piece of it like old leather boot laces it works perfect
@Dan Flynnya you can i use the shoe lace leather to wrap the metal of the front sling attachment plenty of room to put a sling through it also the leather shoe lace is wrapped around it like they do with parra cord on knife handles and such
I used to have one of those. I didn't notice it kicked so much but because of the seemingly shot barrel it has quite a muzzle blast. I quickly go used to it though.
@@russellkeeling4387 - agree have a passion for the Mannlicher stocks myself and my tang safety 77RSI .30-06 is a tack driver - the muzzle blast isn't at all problematic for me - but then again neither is the .358 carbine or the .35 Whelen and 7mm Rem Mag - and I love my customized .444 marlin - all have significant muzzle blast - though nothing like my .44 magnum pistols - the revolvers with the cylinder gap are extremely loud - and the new Ammo out there (Buffalo Bore Deer Grenade) are much noisier than the 80's era 240 grain .44 magnums - but also are very effective as well as longer range. The Hornady 300 grain XTP loads are deadly on bears and they shoot well from my two 329PD revolvers - won't use them in the Ruger .44 carbines - too much power for the older guns - but the Miroku made Browning lever rifles eat them for lunch as do the Ruger No. 3 rifles.
I really enjoy your video's, you've got a really good approach to guns, informative and respectful to the gins and buyers interested..thanks!!
Thank you!
I just found your channel recently, i really like your videos and your collection!
Thanks Even - glad you found my channel!
Very Beautiful rifles !!!
Thank you for showing these !
Excellent video. An acquaintance and fellow hunter purchased, as his first center fire rife, nearly fifty years ago, a Ruger No.1 in .308 and has since added several more to his battery. Would you believe that the ONLY center fire rifles he owns and hunts with are Ruger No.1s? This gent is well heeled and could probably buy any bolt, pump, or semiauto rifle he wanted but has none of those action types in his gun vault. He shoots (practices) a LOT with his Rugers before taking any one of them on a hunting trip and has been very successful at bringing home the meat for his freezer over the years. Keep up the great work!
absolutely exquisite rifles, sir. that beautifuly figured stock just took my breath!
beautiful!
I learned to shoot on a Stevens falling block 22LR when I was just a wee lad. I will always enjoy the frenetic game of mag-dumping automatics, but single shooters are a more sedate experience that has you enjoying the scenery a bit more during the ride. Someday I'd like to own a Ruger No.1, any caliber I can get my hands on. I accidentally became a Ruger fanboy somewhere along the way and this fact doesn't really bother me. I've never heard of Hagn but perhaps someday I might seek one of those out as well. Handmade rifles would be a unique experience I'm sure. Thanks for showing us your fantastic collection.
I was lucky enough to find a Lipsey's Ruger #1 a few years ago. I was able to order and receive a .35 Whelen which I also adore. The most efficient rifle I have ever loaded for.
You are showing some wonderful firearms. My resources are nowhere near yours but I am refining my collecting and getting some less seen pieces.
Very beautiful Rifles. I've always liked falling blocks. Have not aquired one yet.
Hi Aaron, Maybe try a Ruger #1 of you like. Those single shots bite deep.
Your videos are never boring! By the way, I bought some Ballistol and I ordered some Rangoon Oil from Westley Richards! Talking about barrels there’s a genius barrel maker in western Montana named Dan Lilja. He makes incredible barrels! He used to build rifles but now just concentrates on barrels. I have one of his barrels on a 10/22 and it is super accurate!
Hey - that's great; I like the Westley Richards Rangoon Oil more and more - makes actions run so slick; even if that is not the main purpose. As for Lilja barrels - you bet - first class barrel maker - I've seen these deliver accuracy beyond compare.
In the 80's there was the Gera double rifle available in .444 Marlin - no idea what became of them - tried to order one - but by then they were gone - just missed out - just as I did for the Kimber of Oregon Brownells model 82.Mannlicher
That is the most beautiful rifle I have ever seen. (You know which one)
Thanks so much for sharing your treasures.
The thanks are all mine; more to come and glad you watch and write.
In the 70s I purchased several Ruger rifles. I had model 77s in 30/06, 7mm Remington Magnum, and 243. I had a Ruger Number 1 in 300 Winchester Magnum and a Number 3 in 30/40 Krag. All had missed up rifling in them. About half up the bore the rifling was straight and did not spin
The 30/06 had a off center chamber and the brass would bulge out when fired. I traded those off for other rifles. I now have Winchester Model 70s and CZ 550s. I really liked the looks of the Rugers until you opened the action and saw the as cast surfaces. I look at them at stores, but when I throw it to my shoulder and work the bolt they are difficult to push forward and seem to hang up. The CZs are cast and the bolt operation is smooth throughout its operation. The crf Winchesters are smooth as glass.
sir, thank you, I'll look forward that .
I'll give the nod to the Ruger #1. I had a Ruger #1 Varmint in the 1980's and it shot sub-minute of angle. I sold it like a dunce to purchase a left-handed Kimber model 84. The Kimber was THE worst shooting rifle I ever owned. NEVER, EVER sell an accurate rifle, NEVER!
Hi Peter - I agree! Your comment on the #1 is huge today - we're filming a video on the #1 and #3 today.
I would think that the #1's of today would be very accurate. I'm looking at them and I want one in a .308 or a .270.
I have a Ruger No. 1 in 7 mm Rem Mag, love it . After seeing this video, I want a Hagn.
Thank you for the interesting video. The Hagan rifle is a sight to behold, and assumably to hunt with. I too am a proponent of the single shot hunting rife. I once owned a Ruger No. 1 chambered in 9.3x74R, which I enjoyed hunting Elk with. Mine had one tendency however that I found undesirable, and that was the safety. It would constantly spring into the fire position with the slightest pressure, say from brushing up against clothing, spruce bows, backpacks, etc. while stalking through the timber. I would remedy this by not fully lifting the block until I was ready to shoot. Thus, keeping the rifle out of commission until ready. I got used to it, but it was still distracting when in the dark timber and only seconds were given to take a good shot. Perhaps Mr. Hagan found the same issue and designed the different safety.
Thanks for sharing the safety issue; Ruger should think about that. BTW - I had the 9.3x74R as well - accurate beyond belief.
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I have a Ruger no.1 tropical Sporter in 45/70 that I bought In 1976, my favorite firearm that I own. I love it
Great rifle Arthur. You chose well - IMHO
Hi, I love your easy going reviews. I have a falling block rifle that is Extremely beautiful work of art, it is engraved like a Swiss watch and was awarded to the world champion rifle man in 1909 in Germany. I believe it to be a one of a kind due to the sterling silver plaque attached to the stock listing the history of the event. I can send pictures if you would like them. Not sure how to contact you with more detail. Let me know if you would be interested.
Sir, thanks for a look at your single shot rifles , I've enjoyed combination rifle/shotgun for meny years do you have any examples you mite like shear ?? kind Regards
Hi and yes I have 2 - combination guns are very interesting and probably close to universal guns. I'll make a video. Thanks for reminding me.
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hello...first off, I have always enjoyed watching your video's....and recently subscribed...all of my shooting experience over the years has been with bolt style rifles,but lately I have become very interested in single shot rifles...So,when I came across this video I was excited to watch and listen to your explanations and comparisons,,ect.. I have to say that your hagn rifles are absolutely beautiful...the craftsmanship is unparalleled in my opinion...they are so pleasing to the eye...Wow...thank you for bringing to my attention these works of art..now all I have to do is start budgeting to own one..thanks again,keep up the great presentations ..it sure would be fun to be your next door neighbor.....btw, I would like to invite you to take a look at my contribution into the shooting sports...I have a small company here in chico,ca. and I produce a very unique custom walnut ammo box,in pistol and rifle calibers...I think you will find them very interesting...my web site is www.openrangecreations.com.
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Do You know the Eabco M97? I just started researching about all kinds of single shot guns, and once in a while I discover something slightly different!
You did a great job! Not often I can say I have not seen one - but the Eabco M97 is one for sure. I had to Google it and found some images but I'm still not sure exactly; as the images show different guns. I'll keep looking and learning. Thank you so much!
strength thru engineering and pure elegance. what's not to love....
Congratulations on a great channel and a very eclectic gun collection ! There is a groove on the fore end tip of the Ruger number one . Do you know the purpose of this feature ?
A groove at the forend tip, typical of this fine Scottish maker, (for tying a rifle into a vehicle-mounted rack?). Adopted by the traditionalist Bill Ruger for his single shot Model No. 1.
That so called groove is referred to as , Alexander Henry style forearm. @@petersymons720
I would like one of these rifles in 7mm-08 or 22-250 for target shooting. Great review 👍
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I've never owned a Ruger No 1, but I do have two No 3's, one in .22 Hornet, the other in .375 Winchester. Very strong actions.
Lucky man - the .375 is not easy to find.
rifle is absolutely beautiful. it is nice to see guns made with style in a time where guns look so cheaply made today.
I have a ruger #3 but the #1 I have is a beautiful rifle. I love those high express sights and the quarter rib at the rear.
For those who appreciate fine craftsmanship, these are exceptionally nice rifles. They really make the rifle I carved from an old, barbed wire fence post, look subpar.
Fellow lover of single shots here, both in falling block and break action. A shame there aren't more options in the single-shot pistol world though. There's T/C, and not much else...
If only more people tried single shots...
One of the strongest single shots made
The Stevens Model 44 1/2 has a following, I just got one in .22lr, originally in .32-40. It would make a good .45-70.
Does it come in a .308?
I can see an old Brit Farquason action in there somewhere !!!.
you sir.... Have TASTE!!
Hi Charles - I truly appreciate your kindness and that you took the time to write. Thank you so much. I know there is a worldwide gun community that is deeper and different from what the general public knows and I am trying, if only a small way, to reach out to this great and abiding community with my small channel. From Paikistan to Norway and Brazil to Alaska - and all places in between - firearms are a centuries old hallmark of many of the best things between and amongst what I think is a special group of people. I have many videos planned and have set aside the time and look forward to hearing from you and all people around the globe interested in guns and the freedom they represent.
I miss my number 1.
Hi You have many great videos. A few? years ago you did a video showing a custom falling block action you had made. You wanted to sell them. Did you sell them if yes to who? thanks- sam
Hi Sam - I didn't sell any - didn't even try.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Hi thanks for responding. I looked through your videos and did not see it. Is that video still up? I thought the trigger assembly was in the falling block?
Hi Sam - you may be remembering the falling block double or the Dakota Miller - the latter has the unique block. I have one left. Maybe visit Dakota and see if the Miller is familiar.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Those falling block doubles just might have been the coolest firearms I have laid eyes on to date, absolute beauties!
I have a Ruger 1V in .223. It's an elegant, but heavy rifle. Mine must be an older version as it has the red recoil pad and a pretty fancy figured stock. Don't know why but I just don't shoot it much.
You'll find you get a lot more for it than one would think - if you decide to sell. They have become quite expensive. Nice rifle you have!
I am seriously thinking about selling it or trading it for something I might actually shoot. @@UnitedStatesOfGuns
I think I saw a Browning falling block single shot rifle in 22-250...but I wasn't sure if I want to pay 1000+tax Canadian dollars for a single shot second hand rifle back then :D. But yes, they are beautiful and very pleasant to rock the action :D.
Would love to own a No1. .....so nice.
Hey John - buy 2. : )
When it comes to over all quality your right about the Hagn. For me aesthetic appeal is with the Sharps and the High wall. Don't ask me why because it's like looking at women, some ya like and some ya don't..!
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I like single shot rifles and hunt whitetails with a custom reproduction Southern Mountain flintlock rifle in .45 caliber. Do you know of single shot rifles that are built like semiautomatics, I.e. eject the cartridge and then stay open such that you feed in the next cartridge by hand? Such a rifle would spread out the recoil in time due to the backward motion of the bolt and hence be easier on the shoulder.
That is smart. And yes there have been rifles made like that. There is one made in France right now - Verney Carron Speedline- you load a round - fire - the action opens - ejects the empty and locks open; then you release the bolt with
www.thetruthaboutguns.com/verney-carrons-speedline-rifle-is-a-non-semi-automatic-and-australians-are-freaking-out/
your thumb. I think the Winchester 55 .22 was the same concept.
USOG , thank you for the quick and pertinent reply. The action that you refer to also sports a magazine, and apparently sends part of the Australian public into hyperventilation. A semi-automatic without a magazine could be much simpler, especially if it were based on a delayed blowback principle, e.g. the HK G3 with the squeeze rollers. This action would be quite slim, but possibly a tad too long. It’s a thought at least, since I am getting more recoil sensitive with impending age, and at the same time appreciate a lightweight rifle for hunting.
When discussing falling block rifles, it would seem negligent to neglect mention of the Heeren action.
Great comment. Wonderful action - the Heeren; I'll make a video. The Heeren has one fatal flaw though - the firing pin is at an angle which sometimes hangs up in the primer. Mine did that once in awhile. You are correct though - the Heeren is so unique - I'll present it one it's own. Thanks again.
The roller safety is quiet, which is better for hunting.
Thank you - very true - totally silent.
I can only imagine how deep inside the inter sanctum of your vault is🤔🤔🤔.
Haha - it's not too bad, at the end of hallway one, turn left, take the stairs to the elevator, go to level C9 - exit the elevator and proceed down hallway B21... just having fun. : )
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That would make a great rifle in 5.7 very soft shooting round.
Superb idea. That is a great thought and probably the ideal round for that tiny rifle.
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Why are these single shots so heavy? I would think you could make them lighter than a repeater.
Great observation. The actions tend to be compact but they are a block of nearly solid steel and then the blocks are steel. It all adds up to one unstoppable action - but a little heavy.
I really would like a Ruger #1 but the weight, the inaccuracy, and the reported recoil have kept me from getting one. You would think the weight would mitigate the recoil but I guess there is something about the design of the stock that makes the difference. I have read a number of reports that the recoil is the worst ever experienced in the heavier calibers.
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i'm jealous of that robert page I love those guns and i wouid like to get one in the same caliber.I had a chance to get one in 96 for 300.00 in 22-250 but failed to do it like a dummy thats one of the biggest mistakez i try to forget i]m still looking...
It's okay Scott - I've done that many time - it all works out. I wish you only the best.
Well Mike, I am going to have to challenge your assessment of the "Best" Falling block.
You obviously either do not know of or have access to the Franz Langenhan Kienaliberbuchse .22LR in Octogen barrel.
By serial number over 4000 were made in the 1920's.
You can look up the info on the web.
I sincerely hope you can get one for a tryout.
Mine is as accurate as some of the new $1500.00 22's.
Hello One Bone - Great post - I have that rifle and we actually just made a video for Patreon - probably going up this week. You're right - what a fantastic action. Mine is the same action but carries a different name as they were sold by various gunmakers back then - as you likely know. What a gem - thanks for the reminder. All the best.
I once owned one of those Japanese made 1885 trappers in 38-55. Wildly inaccurate with the foolishly short barrel
I heard that before Moto - thanks for confirming; a longer barrel makes sense.
No sharpes?
Hi David - I didn't have one - sorry - I now have a mini-Sharps - I'll make a video : )
I always called em Drop blocks
That's good Wes
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It’s like watches. Sure the latest Apple can give you email and connect you to the internet, but a Rolex will always be the connoisseurs choice.
Perfect comparison. And one owns something!
Well, perhaps a Patek Philippe instead.
I prefer a sun dial, 😂😂.
Do you want to sell that 3030 ?
Hi Billy - I can't bring myself to do it - sold too many of these : ) and then wondered why.
Ok
Where is the MARTINI ?
Great action for sure; sadly, not a falling block. Martini actions are tipping blocks - I'll make a comparative video. : )
...of course we all know that John Moses Browning was the greatest firearms designer of all time...and it would follow that his 1885 falling block design was the best ever...
I like that Paradise Road - I was just looking at my 45-70 ; something about the hammer is really nice.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns ...the hammer falling with the block...and then coming back up at full cock as it did in the original J. M. Browning design is brilliant...all in a fairly simple and compact mechanism...all the falling blocks are wonderful mechanisms...but I think the Browning design is the epitome...as all J. M. Browning designs are...
I will never pay $16,000 dollars for a rifle. I can get a ruger no1, aftermarket trigger, have an octagon barrel installed with caliber of my choosing, then have the action coated in NP3, or Nickel Boron for under $1800. Hagn action rifles are for when you have more money than you know what to do with.
I agree Nicholas - or when you have a major line of credit : )
Get yourself a Sharps Borchardt... this investment-cast lump will loose it's luster.
Thanks Leo - I had one and foolishly sold it. I'll try to find another for the channel.
Don't think they will quit making the #1 too many people like them.
Hi William, hope you're right. I heard that rumor again just last week from a fellow in the industry. A lot of people are buying and storing. Thanks for writing.
cool no problem, I feel the #1 is there pride and joy.. seems the single shot has picked up some appeal for the reliability. I love them thanks for the video.
B78 Browning .... in 45-70
That's right
The best quality has no sights - all they do is ruin gun cases - and I have never missed them on a good rifle - tracking wounded bears after dark being the sole exception - a Browning model 92 with a 20" barrel in .44 magnum is by far the best - as it's all close and personal - instinct shooting - and the .44 magnum has a lot more power in the handy rifle than in my pistols.
Fair enough - I know what you mean about the tearing of gun cases. I just buy better cases : ) All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns - you really cannot use those cases in the way I hunt - the cases like that are every bit as awkward as the Ruger No. 1 - and I even manually removed the sights from one of the Ruger No. 3 after it chewed up one too many cases - there is no practical way to use a rifle with sights as I like to hunt - that is unless I grab my older Marlin 336A .35 Remington with aperture sights - just for the hell of it - like old times - the Ballard rifling loves soft lead bullets.
Why is the rolling block not a more popular single shot choice?
The architecture of the rolling block is challenging for stock design - for iron sights it is okay; but in order to use a scope a very high comb would be needed - which would work - but it would make for a fairly bulky buttstock - and heavy. I've seen some of these. Other than that the action is okay, maybe a little odd and the locking is functional but not really interesting or elegant. Maybe someone will awaken the design again but as it is there are a lot of Swedish and Remington rifles around. I like them all, despite their characteristics.
Thank you, you are right of course - I hadn't thought of that stock difficulty, due to the slanted shape of the action.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns by being heavier, it would take some of the recoil out of the bigger calibers. I would think that would be a plus and make the shooter more accurate by not worrying about the recoil.