how to fix flaking peeling paint - walls ceiling - bathroom - kitchen - Zinsser Peel Stop
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2023
- What to know how to fix peeling or flaking paint on your walls or ceilings?
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That’s a large forehead Phil…..paint it 👌
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Very helpful thanks for posting a willing diyer no clue about how to fix my freshly painted and now flaking kitchen ceiling!! 👍
Happy to help!
This was a really helpful video. We’ve had an issue with the wall on our stairs peeling (rush job from previous owners to make it ‘look good’ for a quicker sell I think!) I’ve tried a LOT of things, but peel stop is now my next trick. thank you!
Great to hear!
Tbh I’ve done a lot of DIY but I have never been more traumatised by a project than this type of peeling paint. Once you start scraping it never stops…and the MESS! 🤦🏽♀️
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lol soooo true I’m feeling your pain today 😂
Really useful video. Thanks very much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the upload
No problem
Phil, I've applied bathroom ceiling paint to my shower area (Dulux bathroom easy care) and I have bubbling up in one area already only after taking about a dozen showers. I've two fans in the bathroom extracting the steam from the area but there's already a small area about the size of ones hand that has started to ripple. I've dried the area and left for a couple of days and just applied this peel stop to the whole of the area around the shower. Will this stop the rippling or am I wasting my time here? Grateful for a response.
I've just moved into a place where they clearly just painted onto the plaster - masking tape takes off chunks of paint and there's places where the paint is flaking off. Clearly if I just paint it now it's not going to hold to the wall. Would you recommend I use this in the flaking areas and then paint the whole thing with a generic primer? Or coat the whole wall with this stuff? Or sand the paint off to go back to the plaster?
Thanks!
nice work n information
Thanks and welcome
Great info thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Painted some fitted wardrobes in my bedroom with valspar emulsion paint in some places the paint chipping off on the doors and drawers is it possible to use peel stop over the doors and drawers when I have touched the doors and drawers
Sand them,touch the chipped areas with PeelStop.
Do they need a fine filler over them?
Then re paint
Hi I’ve got the same with the island affects can I just apply a layer of peel stop then paint? without pollyfillering over it thankyou
You can, but the 'mapping' will still show
Great video Phil.... 1 room in my house has an issue which I believe is because the mist coat was either not used or something similar... when I moved in 8 years ago I was painting and the old paint was coming off the walls onto the roller in some places... my late uncle done some decorating in his lifetime so I called him and he said it was down to a failed or no mist coat... he said it could be a nightmare to correct so painted it quickly for me. (I honestly couldn't believe how quickly he painted this room) he said the trick was to not let the roller get too dry to prevent it picking up the old emulsion on the wall... hes now passed away and id like to repaint that room. I was thinking I could try to do with a roller I dont let dry out and keep it loaded up with paint all the time but im not confident ill do a good job and may leave too much paint on the walls as I'm use to rolling out paint and then laying it off etc... would you be able to tell me what the remedy for my situation is please so I can paint like normal... someone recently told me id have to use a wallpaper steamer and remove all the paint and start again from fresh plaster with a mist coat etc... is that true😬
Is the paint coming off still now?
if some parts come off when you roll. that can be a sign that there's PVA on the surface, which softens up when the moisture of the paint gets on it.
Thanks for the replies mate... not sure if its gonna happen again as I've not attempted to paint that room again yet as I've been afraid incase it happens again... I shall get round to giving it a go and if it happens again I'll do what you say and guardz all the walls.. many thanks
Hi Phil, wee question for your masterful mind regarding crazing.
Will using peel stop or Gardz for spot priming do without flashing or will i need to cover the full wall
I have used gardz for the odd spot priming over filler prior to emulsion painting.
It does the same sort of thing... Stops the filler soaking up that first coat of paint in those areas
Phil I bought some brick sort of a foam material, they come in sheets. It looks good when on walls but the paint flakes off quite easy. Can I use peel stop after it painted. One more thing does peel stop dry Matt or glossy. Thank you for your time. Paul
the foam stuff is from wall insulation?
peelStop, not that glossy, you paint over it anyway
I have already filled my edges and sanded them, can I put the peel stop over it? So o have to re fill over the top of the peel stop?
You can prime over with PeelStop. It'll do no halm.
Bootifool
Hi mate.
Great video. I'm painting over high gloss kitchen units. I'm using tikkurila primer and top coat. However, there are little bits of peeling gloss coating. Should I use this on the peeling bits and fill with a fine surface filler prior to applying the primer?
Cheers
If it's peeling yes.
Is it paint peeling or a wrap film on the kitchen units?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks very much for replying. It's the gloss paint finish that's peeling. Just in bits where it's crazed and then peeled on a cabinet above the kettle. I've tried to scrape it off but it's stuck on good. I also tried a paint stripper but didn't budge it. So I'm now thinking of sanding a little then applying peel stop and maybe filler to smooth it out prior to the primer and top coat. What's your thoughts?
Cheers
Does this work with grease spots on kitchen wall from previous owner? Paint wont stick despite sanding it down. Grease soaked through
It should. Have you wiped it very the mark with white spirit then go over with some meths?
I've just started to strip the walls in my living room and the taking the paper off has caused the 3 layers of vinyl paint on the adjacent wall to peel off the plaster. I've taken as much off as possible (about 2/3's of the wall) but the rest just won't budge. Would this method work on the remaining paint layers before I sand and repaint the whole wall?
get all your wallpaper off, then soak your wall again where the paint is with hot soapy water a couple more times, that will soften up the loose paint so you can get a bit more off. once you've done that and it's all dry. Use the peel stop to bind those edges down.. you can coat the whole wall up.... then skim over those paint edges with filler.. sand so the wall is smooth again.
I've got a artexed kitchen ceiling where the paint is peeling off, is this the product to use or does the ceiling need completely scrapped flat and start a fresh?
its ideal for peeling paint
nice.
im not a P&D... but even i know how to use contract matt, which my builders didnt when i had my kitchen done in the summer.
Total donuts.... contract matt really should go on really damp or drying plaster, not on completely dried plaster. So what occurs.. .top coats of paint are stuck to a paint layer that isnt bound to the plaster.
You're far better off watering down your normal paint at least 50% on dry plaster. And make sure if it is sanded to clean it up first (which they also didnt do )
As with a lot of things... better to do it yourself... a lot of trades cut corners, dont want to spend the time, want to take your money etc..
Get the pro traders in for the job in hand... never trust a builder to decorate.. ever !
Building was a different department at college than p&d... Other side of the campus.
I know nothing about building... Totally different trade.
Wash coat new plaster with contract Matt, 20-30%
If spraying you can go more than that as it needs to soak in. So the thinner the better.
Don't use durable Matt paints for wash coating. It doesn't soak in enough and can peel away from the surface.
Also no point wash coating with expensive paint.
A dedicated bare plaster primer is ideal . Screwfix do one. Tikkurila Optiva Primer is another.
Can be used straight out the can, but I still add a bit of water to help soak in more.
after you use the final coat of peel stop, why wouldn't you prime the rest/entire wall before you apply the "emulsion"?
if you so wish, but there's no need uless the surface is a problem with peeling areas.
If the surafce is dry and porous, you'd be better using GARDZ on all the emulsion.
Hi Phil would you recommend using a plaster repair on the large areas instead of filler? Many thanks Lucia
That's depends how big and bad tye repairs need to be. Some you can still skim over yourself
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator let's say it's about 50cm wide and 100 cm In length. Thank you for replying 😊
@@user-kf2wm5jf8u how deep?
Do you have to use filler? Because I’ve had to peel off quite a lot of the bathroom ceiling. If I do two or so coats of paint will the outline of the old paint come through where it’s peeled or do I need to fill over it all?
Oh no, if it's nearly all come off you can just do the mapped edges... Not the whole surface.
Use your coman sense as to what's best to do and what will look beat once painted.
Had a ceiling this week, flaking on one edge... The whole lot came off due to no wash coat.
That video is next month.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator what's a wash coat please?
Is there also a way to seal wallpaper so moisture doesn't get in - can I use this across all the wallpapered ceiling if it dries clear? What product would you suggest please? Thanks
@@martinaharrisondefault5027 a wash coat is a first coat of paint, thinned.. that goes onto bare syrfaces, like plaster mainly... bare plaster primer from screw fix.
wallpaper varnish, have look at Polyvine decorator varnish.
I think there is PVA in peel stop Phil you can smell it i think its PVA mixed with a vinyl polymer and probably some other additives. I think the oil based clear sealer does a better job at holding edges down etc but is a lot less convenient. i mainly use the oil sealer for paint scuttles and kettles. even though it say peel stop works on plastic it doesn't ive tried using it for paint scuttles to stop paint peeling and it didn't work at all for that the oil sealer works every time. the peel stop only seem's effective on porous surfaces
Can take fair bit of work to sort and blend in a area like that so you can't see it
great video. What filler did you use?
It's mentioned in the video ;) Presto F
Where did you say? all I heard was you saying “got me filler” at 13:30 why can’t you just reply with the answer. No one has time to watch a whole video for you to say the name of the filler.
Hi can u use it on flaky floor paint ?
No harm in trying.
Can this help prevent kids from peeling paint off?
On a ceiling lol
It'll seal the edges.... And if done like in the video, they shouldn't have an edge to pick at
In all honesty, I think applying it this is somewhat of a lost cause. If I have a room that I know I would tape off and BEFORE it peels off I'd love to know that I can stop peeling without having to repair the damage. Have you tried gluing the paint before using masking tape over it?
What is the filler that you used?
Yes. Explained in the video ;)
🎉is that type of paint bubbling a sign of dampness or simply the wrong type of paint? I have the exact same issue. They used cheap screwfix matt paint, which gets stained extremely easily. Absolutely terrible paint what they used. I can see lots of spots of paint bubbling on the internal dividing wall.
Could be a number of reasons without seeing it.
You may need to burst them and scrape them to a tight edge and follow my instructions in the video.
If it's damp behind, you normally see darker plaster due to the moisture in it.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks. Would there be any signs of black mould? Or simply the plaster would be much darker than normal?
You'll see and sometimes smell mould.
You know how to drag a job out
Makes you wander how he makes money 😮
The existing paint on my metal garage door has the look of miniature crazy paving. I wonder if Peel Stop would work here too? - obviously I intend sanding it to level the surface first.
is it flaking off?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator It is easily lifted by a finger nail, where a crack is just wide enough. I sanded a small portion and the cracked paint came away from around the edges of a smooth area, again, quite easily. Before you say, "remove all the old paint, and start again" I have absolutely no appetite for sanding a whole garage door, back to its original undercoat, ha!
My intention was always to smooth down the protruding, crinkly bits and then sealing the rest to prevent further loss. All prior to applying a fresh under and finishing coats.
Applying something like Peel Stop, just appeared to be a quicker solution, than a COMPLETE door paint strip-back, to its original factory condition? With all the effort that entails?
@@shill6449 I was gonna say.. PeelStop it, you've nothing to lose. Then coat the whole thing up with Zinsser ALL Coat Exterior Satin (water based)
Thank you Phil. That's exactly what I had in mind.
Tho' I did intend applying a white undercoat on top of the Peel Stop, followed by a Satin White, water-based, finishing coat. Keep up the good work. steve
@@shill6449 no need for the undercoat with AllCoat exterior.... or Bedec MSP, they self prime and Uc and finish all together.
the peelstop will act as your base sealer too.
Just done a whole room of flakey and stuck paint of 2 layers. It was a nightmare and has taken so much time to rectify before painting. A small room redecoration has turned into weeks of non-stop work where i had to replaster the whole room.
But I'll bet it turned out well after all that hard work. That's why paint work is expensive!
I thought you would of used pva Phil, only joking, good video bud.
oi!!!! lol
Ricky gervais home improvement.... Can't stop waiting for the joke to drop
I followed this exact procedure in a bathroom that someone had put contract matt on and it started to peel due to moisture getting inside the substrate. I the Finished in Johnstones durable matt and it’s started to peel again 🤬 I took it back to a firm edge, zinsered it, filled, sanded, zinsered it again (is that a word?) thinned down coat of Matt, two coats of durable matt. I don’t know why it’s occurred again. Should I charge to go back?
Ventilation
Paint is a far better sealer e.g MSP. That zinsser product is produced for mugs who think it has magical properties. Like a lot of overpriced zinsser products.
I got a downstairs shower room with no window, just a extraction fan... the ceiling peeled back... I took all the paint off the ceiling using a wall paper steamer to get back to plaster.. I then diluted a can of zinsseer bulls eyes 1-2-3 (blue can) with 10% water and gave it 2 coats. I then gave it 2 coats of zinsseer perma white and it hasn't peeled yet. Its been 2 years. ** (I am not a decorator)** its worked so far 🤞
Vilamoura a week today
Keep your peel stop
I've a video on that lol
I won’t be on the tools though 😆🍺
So it does what it says on the tin , who would have predicted that 🤔
Uri Geller?
I am sure punters would have loved little less useless chat and showing us how to sand or prepare surface before you apply the zinsser peel stop
Tiktoc is the other app you need ;)
thanks but suggestion, don't worry about your face being in every shot, lol
Roll on a pole
ALL YOU SEEM TO DO IS PUSH PRODUCTS?YOU MAY BE A BETTER SALES MAN THAN A DECORATOR ??
Push? In what way?
Kriky…a 10 year old could do this.
Maybe, but you may have an issue trying to get them off playing Fortnight
@belindacole71 a 10 year old could also spell better than you too. Crikey 👍
@belindacole71 a 10 year old could also spell better than you too. Crikey 👍
@belindacole71 a 10 year old could also spell better than you too. Crikey 👍
@belindacole71 a 10 year old could also spell better than you too. Crikey 👍
Could have been a 10 minute video without all the procrastinating.
No fun in that lol
Fu-k zinsser just use sbr way way cheaper
It's a builder's product for mixing into renders etc. not for product for r decorators.
Talks. To much to much talking. Dray it out
you got good content, but your video/presentation is not great. Please learn how to set your exposures on the camera you are using, using manual settings, and not leaving it on auto exposure lol
Never mind... Good job it's not cost you anything lol
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator just saying.. youtube is all about content and its presentation :)
@stevef2114 how about offering some form of help or advice to him instead of passive aggressively being a jerk? The man is doing this for ppls benefit.
@@rnick123 I just did... and whats with the aggression... grow up.