F-22 Langley demo - Backflips!!! Cobra!!!
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The F-22 demo at the Langley airshow - the first airshow to get a REAL F-22 demo, not just a few passes. The backflips and sudden pitch-ups are reminiscent of those seen in Sukhoi and MiG-29 demos. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
That is not a Pugachev Cobra. It is simply a vertical climb
+sansri7680 It's a Kulbit, or a tight diameter loop. It's also often called a Cobra in US air combat maneuvering schools. It's been around since the 60's but it's only recently become possible with any reliability. Unlike Pugachev's Cobra it's also usable in combat without leaving yourself a target.
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@@ASDeckard Lol thats not even close to Kulbit u stupid shit
That not even a cobra that's a khobra. And in my language khobra means coconut. They are just nuts.
The "Kulbit" is an aerial maneuver developed by Russian pilots in which the aircraft performs an extremely tight loop, often not much wider than the length of the aircraft itself. It differs from the traditional inside loop as it uses post-stall maneuvering capabilities.@@Slavkoni100
That's not a Cobra.
This could be Cobra, but it isn`t. )))
Да брат,ты абсолютно прав!
TheKenji2221 almost but to much velocity causing it to lift more than it staying like that
yes its to 20% Cobra :)
haha :)
This is not cobra. This is anaconda climbing trees. And a chop can do it too
damn anaconda :v
Lol!
Rofl
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lol
There was no Cobra maneuver.
Are you stupid at 1:07 there it is.
@@stopbeingapatheticbitch8628 please, watch when the engines pass by: czcams.com/video/eNY9sCgcyU0/video.html
@@stopbeingapatheticbitch8628 This is cobra figure: czcams.com/video/kcLavSl58yQ/video.html
SU-37(1998): "wait, do you call that a 'Cobra'?!"... "Hold my beer"...
Was there really a point of putting the "(1998)"? There wasnt too much time between the 2 aircraft entering service if you're trying to make it seem that way. The F-22 entered service in 2005. That's only 7 years apart.
@@hyxterioo5173 He should write 1988.the year the SU27 entered in service ,and yes was capable of a cobra not rattlesnake like this
You mean vodka
Cobra more like stall in a funny way and not recover for a minute or two.
Too bad Russia is a POS Military Dictatorship.
Seeing this title made me laugh so much. F-22 doing a Cobra?!?!
f22 is a good plane unlike the f35 that cant pull more than 7 g's
It's job's CAS though, not air superiority
ABadMedic its a multirole and with the f22 program having been terminated it will have to wear shoes twice its size
Not like it really has too much competition though, unless 'merica goes to war with Russia or China but i doubt that
Yeah, I think your a bit mistaken ABadMedic. No aircraft on planet earf will go head to head with a Raptor and survive to tell about it.
You seriously call this cobra !? go check how the real cobra is done with the SUs
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Yeah let’s see those samesukhois dona cobra with full fuel and fully loaded. Dumbass those manuevers are useless in combat.
@@gru841 no but you are the moron here let's see any Russian plane including the junk su57 lawndart nobody wanted do a backflip in mid flight. Yea STFU stupid.
SUs sucks i watch their video amd it was kinda stupid on their manuvers jist because they better than American planes that sukhois are just light paper planes that make easy to do cobra.
Draken did it before your POS Russian plane did. Gfy...
No Cobra.
Thank the good lord we don't live in a world where CZcams comments can start wars or we all be fucked
No shite- only Twitter w/ Trump's Tweets could start a war.
Wait til Liddle Donnie Drumpf discovers CZcams, it's going to be tremendous, like the world has never seen ....
There were no cobra manoeuvres in this video.
Where is this cobra then?
That's not a cobra maneuver..
I didn't hear this pilot say anything about the "cobra" maneuver. Nor did I see one in the video. That's because while this aircraft is more then capable of doing a so called "cobra" maneuver, the maneuver itself is more or less, obsolete due to upgrades to the avionics/weapons suites that allows these systems to continue to track the aircraft even though it it is stationary in the air. This us true for the F-22, as well as it's Russian counterparts. That being said, the F-22 would establish air superiority against any other existing fighter well before it would be engaged in close in aerial combat. Your "cobra" maneuver will no longer be sufficient to protect the Russian fighters due to these upgrades.
02DZ Just as long as the enemy doesn't have electronic warfare pods that cancel that advantage. BTW, "stealth" only applies to modern short wavelength radars. They are quite visible to longer wavelengths. Guess what the Russians and Chinese are using?
02DZ
Well the title mentioned a cobra, I didn't see one.
Yes it is design to establish air superiority but and kill targets before dogfight. That will require that you know who is the enemy and that part history shows it is not always that easy to know if the blip is friendly or a foe. So if you get forced to make a mark one eyeball you are in a dogfight.
In these day with coalition forces it could prove difficult to do that if the american flight aviaonics shares data and some coalition aircraft doesn't have that ability you could shoot down friendlies if you don't make a positive recognition.
The funny thing is that if you plant a Russian pilot in the F-22, it will make this Raptor make Cobra and many other pieces of American pilots who are not aware and do not know.
I'm working on our factory (here built Su-30/35 and PAK-FA) at times such pirouettes see in the performance of our test pilots that captures the spirit ... of the air show will not see ...
No it's because the F22 doesn't have front canards so it's impossible to be as agile as the Sukhoi jets
where is cobra? shame on f-22
YES shame on f-22's for not performing a glorified airshow stunt
F-22 can't do a proper cobra, it's really just the SU 27 and mig 29 that can do it
0.54... it's better then you cobra lame : czcams.com/video/GrBx6G2O6A4/video.html
@@argent2020 yo... soviet agent.. get lost.
@Jamie Koering czcams.com/video/-2-g8Can2ws/video.html this video says that more than just 3d T/V is necessary for a plane to recover from a super high AoA maneuver
i love this piece of equipment so much
Just like the guy says: The stealthness, the avionics, the supercruise capabilities and so on, they are what actually count on the mission, to go there and to do the job The added maneuverability, being able to pull cobras and kulbits and so on, are actually secondary in a modern fighter aircraft, but they look oh so impressive at airshows.
Cobra or not, I would love to fly an F-22... Who wouldn't??? Truly an #epic stealth tactical fighter...
When Russian aircraft perform these maneuvers the American critics say its unnecessary & totally ignore the fantastic aerodynamics. 30 years later American jets finally have the ability to (almost) fly in such a manner & all of a sudden its amazing! Gravity defying!!!
Just like these critics say, if stealth is a myth why are the Russians & Chinese making stealth aircraft. If this type of maneuverability is not an advantage, why are Americans attempting to design aircraft that follow in the footsteps of the Russians....
***** Lol no... just no... /watch?v=2O9q6EJhssQ
FYI: Top Gun sucked.
Russians designed many of their planes to counter the U.S.
the SU and MiG lines are not terrible planes but in general have always been second to creation. They are also cookie cutter jets. The same design with variations to it. Many of the American planes can do the same maneuvers a Russian plane can.
But the point of the raptor isn’t really it’s maneuverability. It’s that it’s the size of a literal bird on radar.
No cobra maneuver was harmed in the making of this video.
Good pilot.And what a lucky bastard to be able to fly these things.
is not a "cobra". "Cobra" is more complicated.
They are not going to allow him to do the actual cobra. It required disable computer controlled limiters.
***** sounds really gay
gorgonzo1a You speak from experience.
Im suddenly locked on by a MiG, incoming missile! oh hang on i just need to disable some computors first before dodging the massive missile that will blow me to hell and back. Never mind, planes got too small wings to dodge anythin anyhow.
Yes. I must diable the AOA limiter (which practically every fighter has) to do a low speed Cobra stall so I can dodge a that missile! Oh wait! This is not a circus airshow over paris! This is combat and the Cobra just made me a sitting duck for that missile.
What plane has too small wings? Not only do you know not know what you are talking about, you also don't even know which plane you are talking about.
so , where is cobra, only i see go from horizontal to vertical...
amazing looking jet
This video was a while back because if you remember Max Moga he did a few 1/2hr Ultimate weapons series on the Military Channel a few years back where he got to come in and try out different weapons
ha ha ha cobra?
F-22 can't do it it's like a fat man trying to run mile in 3 minutes
Aleksandr Mayakovsky look up other videos
Proud the United States has heroes like this guy.
Still waiting to see that cobra maneuver
OMG It can pitch up! What a surprise!
Yes do you know what that pitch does it doesn't just go up simple minded they're call thrust vectors and if you look on older plans and other countries they don't have this it allows for crazy monouvers to out flank your opponent.you think a mig with the engines it has can shoot up like the f22 not even close
No backflip in video. No Cobra maneuver in video.
Fail title.
it may not have the cobra maneuver, but it had the AMRAAM maneuver
It may not cobra but those turns and stall turns are sharp. Af
No cobra here.
just watch like su35 do it =)
Yeah and the su37 terminator
certainly they havent seen su35’s cobra
i just seen a video of jets doing the Cobra, and on the button of the screen it says that F-22 can't do the Cobra, can anyone tell me if that is true or not?
Airshows is all the action f22 will ever see...
All I can is nice attempt. Cobra is a more sudden manoeuvre. As I mentioned in another post on manoeuvrability, western pilots lack fluidity. Part of it is the courses taught are within the flight envelope. The system demands consequence management, however russian pilots carry flair or flamboyance looked down in west as promiscuous flying. Most of us compare machines but its the hand that holds the stick which defines the totality of an aircraft.
"As I mentioned in another post on manoeuvrability, western pilots lack fluidity. "
Nonsense! There are plenty of fluid pilots everywhere in the west. I've seen plenty of airshows and that's not it. Western militaries won't authorize many maneuvers and that's a fact. Even private stunt performers have a hard time getting authorization and almost every insurance companies won't cover it. No insurance, no show! Russia likes to encourage these circus performances everywhere so they can woo other governments on a false sense of combat performance just to sell contracts. They are overly dangerous and doesn't prove any superiority in overall skill. Only a superiority in foolish machismo. The Sknyliv air show disaster is perfect example. Worse airshow disaster in history! Airshows in general already take great risks. There is no need for this macho nonsense.
"All I can is nice attempt. Cobra is a more sudden man oeuvre."
The full cobra maneuver requires disabling the plane's safety limiters and throwing the plane into a dangerous stall and USAF won't allow that. Its not worth the liability. I'm amazed he was allowed to do the low speed flip.The cobra looks macho and flashy but its really not worth performing anywhere including Russia.... And its a useless combat theory anyway.
I am very impressed with the SU 37. It is a magnificent achievement in aviation !! Awesome. In combat against an F-22 Raptor or on its own, it commands respect.
Too bad Russia is a POS Military Dictatorship.
Please, send me time, where the cobra begin. Seems, i missed something for 2 times...
Totally awesome!
Love this plane
кобра ? больше похоже на петлю Нестерова с предельным углом атаки на входе , да еще и при минимальных угловых скоростях. и попыткой войти в плоский штопор на выходе не докрутив . по причине все той же минимальной скорости на входе. больше похоже на одноразовый трюк . чем на стабильную работу. в плане исполнения высшего пилотажа даже с СУ-27 рядом не стоит.
не беспокойся! Однажды, мы встретим ваши самолеты в небе.
I always loved visiting Langley. Is "Muddy" Watrous (former F-15 jock) still around there?
People saying that wasn't a cobra etc.. You do realize he's solely doing that off of vector thrust alone. Unlike the Su which has to disable FBW to do those maneuvers.
So what as far as maneuverability is concerned, the US fifth-generation fighters are now almost on par with Russia's fourth-generation?
you are stupid, stop commenting.
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Senor DingDong do you know nothing about the f22, its not meant the dog fight with maneuverability, its meant to take down aircrafts from outside their radar range using its stealth, moron.
Senor DingDong well you obviously didn't fucking know because you're bashing on its maneuverability, lol, idiot.
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Indeed I did, because it was designed as an air superiority fighter, not just an interceptor. There is more to air combat than bvr-engagements, and in that respect the f22 falls short of what you would expect from 5th gen. fighter. But I guess you're just too fucking stupid to grasp that. lol, fucking moron.
Author where is the Cobra??The American liar!
Best in the world! Awesome Raptor vid. : D
In the title "Backflips!!!" Woah a jet that can do a backflip, that's impressive
it's kulbit not cobra
its not a kulbit not the cobra its some crappy try...
Fake, that is not cobra,
f22 only can't do cobra...................i'm sorry
Luis Ostrie want me to give you links on the F22 performing a cobra
yeah please, thank
cobra = 120°
+Saudi Patriot and.......................................??????????????????
+Luis Ostrie cobra =120????? no a cobra is only 90.
Sorry "kid" but ...nope!
Cobra = 120°
i'm going to try very hard to get into the airforce academy and if i do and graduate i really want to fly this aircraft. nice video too
@laundrylint Im glad you beleive that! thank you you make me happy.
Well done USA. You at long last, after many decades, have something to display that starts to look as though it might rival the SU35 and SU37 as far as manoeuvrability is concerned. We were all bored stiff seeing the Russian Aircraft doing these moves for all these years. Well done. This video didn't really show too much to smile about though. An American Pilot saying on camera that the F22 is the world leader ... did anybody expect him to say anything else? Are there any videos out there that shows anything better regarding the F22 ... you know ... better than this entry level stuff shown on this video?
You really think those low airspeed airshow circus ballet maneuvers have anything to do with combat maneuverability? Russian fan boys like to think it does. They come here and troll about it like their aircraft is unique or something.
At low airspeed, there is a lot a pilot's body and the aircraft's integrity can get away with. There is video all over youtube of Polish doing pretty impressive stuff with F16s. And there is early 1970 test flights of a development F14 doing stall maneuvers similar to cobras and an early F16 actually doing one. Test developments and prototype shakedowns of new western fighters are about the only time pilots are given the most leeway. Otherwise, western pilots are restricted to certain types of maneuvers to minimize liability and try to prevent bad accidents like the Sknyvil incident involving an Su-27. Worst airshow accident in history. Russia likes to put on risky demonstrations at shows because it awes the gullible and it helps sell fighter contracts.
The F-22 has a combat turn at about 28 degrees. The leading Russian fighter is roughly 23-24 degrees and the Russians have yet to develop a true super-cruise engine. The T50 Saturn Engine is supposed to be the first one and its years away.
***** Su 35 supercruises around Mach 1.9.
SuperAncientmariner No it doesn't super cruise is above the speed of sound without afterburners.
SuperAncientmariner ---> "Su 35 supercruises around Mach 1.9"
Where do you get that info? Try mach 1.2! And I can guarantee you it does not do Mach 1.2 nor 2.35 with a combat load and fuel. I doubt it will pull its declared 9Gs with such loaded drag penalties.
***** Aviation weekly.amongst other western publications, the same as everyone else......up to mach 2.5 @ altitude and s/cruise with the new Saturn 117s engines.with a weapon load. (S/cruise definition includes the carrying of a load) Where do you get info that says it doesn't?
looks like more crap :D US flower marketing. SU35 or SU30 looks more impressive.
looks more impressive but is at a massive disadvantage vs even the 1970's f15's
Put " Backflips!!! " in the title and youtube loves you
Gog I love IT when that raptor does that flip
)))))) its not a cobra........
Haha the amaricans are trying to do a cobra xD .....they don't understand that a cover is on a degree of 110 and not that 👆
krower11 It's amazing they claim the "Cobra" named after the YFf-17 Cobra made in the mid 1970's. Only thing is the first Cobra was not a Stall Recovery that The Suck-oy survives without crashing. It is the leading aircraft for engine failures at International Airshows though. I tried to count all the videos of them having engine failures at MULTIPLE airshows and stopped counting at 12. So what they did had been done 20 years ago but without engine stall and restarting.
So thanks for the laugh !!
BTW, have they got any buyers yet? China put their engines in them due to reliability problems and the PAK-50 prototypes have had 1 out of 5 engine burn up. Service life is less than a quarter of US engines.
They may have to buy Chinese Engines to have a chance to get the PAK -50 into production before it fails like the Su-47 did before it. Technical issues they could not resolve.
www.janes.com/article/38971/russian-t-50-pak-fa-fighter-prototype-catches-fire
FantaZ4U india :) but have the americans now the long awaited F-35 in their airforce army and navy ? same shitty question xD
but i am not a Pro russian dude i live in germany .... i am note a russian troll living in siberia and texting Pro russian things haha ;)
krower11 Well they do now, have you not kept up? There are twice as many F-35's now than Russia has made of all types since the Soviets. Shame India got ripped off so badly by Russia. Once the saw The PAK 50 /. FA They cut the funding for Russia failure. I knew they would see all its faults and it did fail miserably when India require a demo of their investment. I think India can do better building their own rather than being conned by Russia. Time for a US and Indian joint project! Or a Israeli and Indian joint project could be very nice.
what is the object that passes behind the plane at full speed?can someone tell me?
@LukRacer greetings from America ! Hope you get to see the Raptor first hand. It's truly amazing.
Russian made its better,..
And Sweden made it first.
shit! i didnt know it can do cobra! though doing it is not that important anymore because of stealth technology and intelligent long range guided missile (goodluck doing a cobra when evading a missile at speeds Mach 2.7 and up) it's just a plus factor IMO, I will choose f-22 that is stealth and can do a cobra than an su-27 that can only do the cobra, But F*ck war! I just like both design!
Fox hound nop
su 37 is not a stealth plane...! Only stealth plane the russia has is pak fa...!
Fox hound
They ain't shit against a F-22
So good luck. :D
@Icarusdecending82 KAB-500KR on centreline pylon, Kh-29T on lower Stbd intake, Kh-59M, RVV-AE, AA-11, AA-11 and still did its full show routine! At the 1994 Farnborough airshow, sanctioned a Su-30MK to perform the airshow routine with ordnance on all 12 pylons - a total of 7000 kg!! It did a complete fighter-like routine with this asymmetric load - including a tail slide !!!!
Good thing the canopy didn't get stuck this time ;)
Hate to reinstall Vista !
@defcon2xramm hypersonic gliding reentry vehicles) ; for use it with a classical aircraft flying at altitude where the density of air is too high ,you should need a device witht the same dimensions and weight ,but capable of higher energy output. Clear ?
кде кобра??
The F/A-22 Raptor is byfair the most manuverable aircraft in the USAF fleet. The F-15 Is faster, but thats due to the engines. The F-15 still has many time-to-climb records.
The main advantage of the F/A-22 over the F-15 is the thrust vectoring. This allows the aircraft to preform tighter tuns and slightly faster manuvers.
Though as much as it is the aircraft, it is the pilot's skill also.
M. Weekley, AM2 USN
@mig21lover
Do they ever fly those things without crashing them into the crowd?
That wasn't a Tomcat maneuver (F-14's doing "cobras" before russians claim they invented it). It did not use High angle of attack to bleed speed, but rahter, used thrust vectoring to change directions and fly upwards (not decrease speed)
Wasn’t it the Harrier that did the first “cobra” type manoeuvre, when the pilot sharply moved the jet outlets to the VTOL position.
Vertical climb also reduces your forward airspeed to 0 like the cobra, but you also gain altitude over the opponent when they’re forced ahead of you. It’s basically cobra but better and can be done by most fighters.
Why does opponent forced ahead if he can do the same vertical climb?
@em745aa The Su-35BM,37, and 47 were designed specifically as test beds for the T-50, so no they were never meant for production, and they were not meant to compare to the raptor. However, the T-50 has already made its maiden flight and the prototype is fully operational. The T-50 is not scheduled for production until 2012 so it is typically russian running a little late to the ball game. However i expect it to at least meet if not exceed the raptors capabilities
OK people, there was no cobra in this video, but the F-22 can in fact do a cobra. there is a video of one doing it
13 years ago?? Daaamn
sorry for the typo,f33=f22
HA! I knew it! This guy looked really familiar to me when I first started the video....then it hit me, this guy is the host on The Military Channel's show Great Planes! That's awesome!
Ha Max does that air combat programme!
rugged,short or heavily damaged airfields ) between two big Air Forces . The almost absolute absence of multirole capability and "persistence" all sacrificed at the maximum "attrition" efficiency was a very clear hint of its CONOPS. In substance the aircraft was conceived for battle involving several dozen of aircraft of both sides ,with a first ,brief exchange at BVR (with R-27 opposing by AiM-7 AIM-120A and in succesive years R-27E and R-77 opposing AIM-120 B/C ),at which would have followed
Putting that kind of stress on the air frame of a F22 will put it in the shop for a month.
other jets dont have vector thrust ?? what are they taught
How many enemy planes were there for an F22 to shoot down? How hard was it to gain complete air superiority in these places?
The F-22 is lightyears ahead of any aircraft.
It has the highest degree of thrust vectoring along the “Y” axis. Thus giving it an edge in a turning fight. It can also perfom just about any airshow maneuver.
It possesses the most advanced avionics system in the world.
It has the most powerful jet engines in a warplane, thus providing it with superior acceleration.
It has ZERO wing loading when in wartime operation. IE - Low drag
It stores it weapons internally. IE - Stealthy and Low drag
I must have missed something : when is the "cobra"?
@defcon2xramm However, the SS-27 is designed to be able to withstand nuclear blasts closer than 500 m, a difficult interception when combined with the terminal phase speed and maneuverability. While the boost phase is the most vulnerable time for the SS-27, it remains protected. Hidden safely within missile silos and mobile launchers, a successful boost-phase interceptor would have to be fired from near or within Russian borders or from space. And the SS-27 is also designed to survive a strike
Two pilots climb into their planes ( Fighters )! One into a F-22 Raptor , and the other into a F-15 !! They're going up for some routine engagement training !! The pilot in the F-15 is the training officer of the pilot in the F-22 !! Anyway ,, they complete the flight training for the day and return to the hanger ! The commanding officer asked the pilot that climbed out of the F-15 how long it took to win the training battle ? Replied " Didn't fire a shot ,,i was dead before i even saw him
All this stuff about SU whatevers and Kulbits and Cobras. The question to be answered is how much fuel and weapons can they carry and do these moves? How many have crashed doing kulbits etc?
@drewdeepblue22 No, but there was a Kulbit, which is essentially a continuation of Pugachev's Cobra. If you can do the Kulbit, the Cobra's a piece of cake. Especially since the F-22 has vectored thrust, which isn't even necessary to perform the Cobra; it was originally done on the Su-27, which is a considerably older plane without vectored thrust.
he's from the show greatplanes
Imitation is a highest form of flattery. ..What happened here is a great adv.for those Sukhoi craft and they can do it better! !!!
no they can't actually. stop being ignorant. A cobra is a Cobra.
+Pasha Pasovski You're right; it's so cool that the Soviets finally caught up to what the X-31 was doing in the early 90's.
Unless you're referring to Pugachev's Cobra? In which case get in line; that has nothing to do with post-stall maneuvering, and there are WW2 propeller aircraft that can do it, not that they ever did because a simple high-yo-yo is all it takes for an enemy to kill them if they try it.
CZcams logic: Aircraft A does maneuver X better than aircraft B, therefore, aircraft A is a superior aircraft. The F-22 doesn't have to perform every single maneuver or role better than every other aircraft. The F-22 is a terrific fighter because it is highly maneuverable, stealthy and has next generation avionics. You can't do everything best, that's engineering. If you want more of X, you get less of Y; it's the way it is. Anyone who says an F-22 is crap just has an ax to grind.
Can't even imagine those g-forces
@asusucks what was its thickness , or how much Kontakt-5 ERA was mounted, or how much 2A46M gun was present , or how much TPD-K1 laser rangefinders was present or what 1K13-49E sight, stabilization system was present ,etc..etc... (mote that i have cited already INFERIOR systems present in EXPORT version of Russian T-72 operative in those years ). Naturally i could already point to you that western experts "discovered" R-73 (operative in URSSsince November of 1981....) only
Which would win in a fight? 10-20 million dollar planes or 2 million-hundred dollar drones?
You doing backflip or pugachev kobra???
I love the f-22 raptor
migs 29, 33 and 35 can also do a cobra?
@flykatcher what about a SU-37?
this is the most advanced fighter for the next 25 years or so .i was talking to some US pilots at farnborough air show..thats what they told me
similar ranges .The response was an advanced IRST capable ,not only to guide in absolute security R-73 to it target.but to negagte also any warning of the target acquisition , besides S-31E2 ,combined with the great nose authority of MIG-29 and the 30 mm caliber and absurd precision of its gun , offered to MIG-29 pilots very easy opportunity's fire solution with the gun on enemy aircraft involved in close range engagements against other MIG-29s of the squadron. All those elements have codified