What is the weird paint F1 teams use in testing?

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  • Taking a look at flow-viz paint and why F1 teams apply this onto the car during F1 testing.
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Komentáře • 264

  • @sadmanh0
    @sadmanh0 Před 2 lety +482

    they could use UV or some reactive paint/powder that's not visible unless under a certain light frequency so other teams can't see things properly when the car is outside

    • @CosRacecar
      @CosRacecar Před 2 lety +56

      I was just thinking the same. I wonder if there are rules governing the color.

    • @ryanzutell1423
      @ryanzutell1423 Před 2 lety +7

      I think some do/did

    • @JoMonteB
      @JoMonteB Před 2 lety +8

      Mercedes do exactly this

    • @traxiii
      @traxiii Před 2 lety +18

      That's what we use at our (non-automotive) wind tunnel. You can see it without a UV light but only if you are up close, and even then not much detail. Hit it with the UV light and everything shows up. We also don't normally paint it on, but use dots of it, spaced apart in rows in areas of interest. It is really cool to watch and look at, but is very messy, and a pain to clean up.

    • @petiertje
      @petiertje Před 2 lety +2

      I was about to write this.

  • @chrisfortune1813
    @chrisfortune1813 Před 2 lety +486

    Kind of surprised they haven't developed a UV version where the particles only show under UV light. Would be much harder to "spy on" and not too difficult to take images afer in a closed garage.

    • @memolano100
      @memolano100 Před 2 lety +6

      Great idea 👏

    • @charliedesperado8262
      @charliedesperado8262 Před 2 lety +56

      It's very easy to make a UV camera.. wouldn't stop those pesky photographers.. may even make it easier for them as it would stand out clearer.

    • @traxiii
      @traxiii Před 2 lety +2

      They do have that, and if they took the car inside the garage before exposing it to a UV light, it would be harder for spies to see the results. You don't need a UV camera, only a strong UV light. It fluoresces under UV light and you can then photograph or observe it.

    • @jeypi__
      @jeypi__ Před 2 lety +9

      wouldnt that be too much effort for something so trivial, like if a team really wanted to spy on you they would so dont put too much effort in hiding stuff when you can just spend that effort in improving the car

    • @TonySopeano46
      @TonySopeano46 Před 2 lety +6

      The Sun produces UV light, so there might be a way to capture the reflection using an UV camera I assume

  • @Nichiyoobiko
    @Nichiyoobiko Před 2 lety +770

    A mixture of color pigments in some form of liquid is literally the description of paint. Still very interesting video. Great job, as always.

    • @johnnychimpo7539
      @johnnychimpo7539 Před 2 lety +13

      So I could put some color pigment in water or milk and I made paint?

    • @est495
      @est495 Před 2 lety +49

      @@johnnychimpo7539 yeh

    • @johnnychimpo7539
      @johnnychimpo7539 Před 2 lety +2

      @@est495 no

    • @Tweej
      @Tweej Před 2 lety +38

      You can put colour pigment in water or milk and using a paintbrush and paper make a watercolor painting... Not sure milk will smell nice a few days after but you'd have the ability to paint

    • @kastasrenars744
      @kastasrenars744 Před 2 lety +1

      @@johnnychimpo7539 yes

  • @OGDreamy
    @OGDreamy Před 2 lety +88

    I actually just want to say how much I appreciate this 3 minute video that gets to the point and not dragged out to 11 minutes lol..

  • @Htonartnomed
    @Htonartnomed Před 2 lety +39

    you heard it here first folks, as powder mixed with oil is not paint, oil paint is not officially paint

  • @LsArts
    @LsArts Před 2 lety +204

    powder mixed with oil is definitively not paint. I completely agree with this assessment.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Před 2 lety +48

      Isn’t paint just a pigment suspended in a liquid?

    • @franz0901fw
      @franz0901fw Před 2 lety +27

      @@ALMX5DP yes it is xD

    • @b.fsmashdub4209
      @b.fsmashdub4209 Před 2 lety +11

      Errr oil paint is just that. Powdered pigment in oil

    • @builditwithbricks8582
      @builditwithbricks8582 Před 2 lety +9

      @@b.fsmashdub4209 I think he was just being sarcastic.

    • @dudeybagz
      @dudeybagz Před 2 lety

      @@b.fsmashdub4209 unless it’s water based paint, then it’s pigment powder in water

  • @darthdias
    @darthdias Před 2 lety +157

    I wish we had WTF1 in other languages so more fans could see how amazing all this stuff is.

    • @mariusfranzen4375
      @mariusfranzen4375 Před 2 lety +37

      I agree, but to be fair, I feel like a VAST majority of F1 fans speak english

    • @JJJackson777
      @JJJackson777 Před 2 lety +6

      use subtitles innit

    • @conorhiggins47
      @conorhiggins47 Před 2 lety +6

      @@JJJackson777 there’s only English captions mate

    • @canyousmoketho
      @canyousmoketho Před 2 lety +4

      @@conorhiggins47 - you can volunteer to translate videos and write captions.

    • @duk2k
      @duk2k Před 2 lety +5

      Learn the bloody language mate

  • @markmaison4436
    @markmaison4436 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for making this video, I was curious what it was and what it was used for but didn’t even know where to start to look for answers.

  • @tomm1413
    @tomm1413 Před 2 lety +7

    It would be interesting to compare the cars with flow-vis on them after Bahrain testing to see who got smooth lines and who doesn't

  • @franz0901fw
    @franz0901fw Před 2 lety +9

    0:50 well normal paint is also some powder mixed with an solvent (in this case oil/paraffin)

    • @Marpurrsa
      @Marpurrsa Před 2 lety +10

      im not sitting on a chair rn
      im sitting on a structure designed to support my weight constructed out of metal, wood and other materials

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage Před 2 lety

      A binder or medium, not a solvent. But you've got the idea!

    • @franz0901fw
      @franz0901fw Před 2 lety

      @@8thlvlMage those are solvents..

    • @Nbomber
      @Nbomber Před 2 lety

      @@franz0901fw everything is a solvent, but in terms of general usage of the word, its Basically whether its dissolved, or simply suspended in the liquid

  • @ryanzutell1423
    @ryanzutell1423 Před 2 lety +2

    Maaaan y’all probably should of done this a week or two ago lol. I had to google it already.
    But I love you guys and will still watch of course

  • @ccramit
    @ccramit Před 2 lety +2

    I swear, I can set my calendar on the repetitive videos that F1 content creators release around the season haha.

  • @myphone7568
    @myphone7568 Před 2 lety +2

    You don't get real dirty air or vortices from natural crosswinds in a wind tunnel. Flow-vis and things like yarn taped to bodywork are ultimately helpful on track because of those reasons and more.

  • @dee3368
    @dee3368 Před 2 lety

    Very cool I did not know this... thanks 4 sharing

  • @santoshsco
    @santoshsco Před 2 lety

    This was very informative

  • @zrob8
    @zrob8 Před 2 lety +6

    I don't know what I expect to learn from this video. I have watched testing for years, and every year I click on the "What's that weird paint and stuff they put on the cars" video expecting to find something new.

  • @eniyankumar
    @eniyankumar Před 2 lety

    Tq for this so long I have this doubt

  • @phillusderpimmelpilz871
    @phillusderpimmelpilz871 Před 2 lety +3

    Paint is also the name of the programm some teams use to design their liverys

  • @f1supreme858
    @f1supreme858 Před 2 lety +11

    I've always wanted to know this

  • @John-ln5nm
    @John-ln5nm Před 2 lety

    finally I found a video explaining about the green paint

  • @huwgrossmith9555
    @huwgrossmith9555 Před 2 lety +6

    It would also be great to know what those mesh things they sometimes run around with are supposed to achieve :-)

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 Před 2 lety +1

      The Rake: An array of pitot tubes, measuring air pressure at points around the car.

  • @mpbx3003
    @mpbx3003 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm just enjoying most of the comments being correct objections to the idea of powder suspended in a fluid not being considered paint.

  • @aidanhorwitz3914
    @aidanhorwitz3914 Před 2 lety +2

    Paraffin - just had my histology & pathology test 2 hours ago, almost confused it with Formalin from dissection. lol

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM Před 2 lety +5

    Can you do a video on those big frame/sensor thingys they attach to their cars, what they do and how they work? Please and thank you :)

  • @antongolovko1149
    @antongolovko1149 Před 2 lety +7

    Why wouldn't they use some kind of uv florescent paint? Then only the team could look at it when they want to as it would be invisible without the uv light.

    • @davidreynolds731
      @davidreynolds731 Před 2 lety

      Was going to say the same thing. I assume it would mess with the viscosity or something though

  • @Splattzero
    @Splattzero Před 2 lety

    Looks nice, I will try it on my Motormobil

  • @gabrielsebastiansandoval4118

    Do the teams make it a priority to study how dirty air affects the performance by having the teammate run the other car directly in front of them?

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage Před 2 lety +9

      I think they were only allowed to run one car for each team. They could definitely follow another team to do the same thing though.

  • @ConstantTuna283
    @ConstantTuna283 Před 2 lety +1

    what car do you think is going to be quickest in the 2022 season? And what driver do you think is going to win?

  • @alphamemes2158
    @alphamemes2158 Před 2 lety

    Ohhhhh thanks I was wondering about that

  • @kohikappu
    @kohikappu Před 2 lety +1

    No matter what, that was an oil pain though, since it covers the surface and mixed with pigment, too.

  • @Scoott95
    @Scoott95 Před 2 lety +4

    Why don't they use a powder only visible under a black light or something to keep it hidden?

  • @aaronf8710
    @aaronf8710 Před 2 lety +1

    2:35
    “I hate to break it to you, but it’s not actually paint”
    Proceeds to describe it as oil-based paint.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 Před 2 lety

    0:48 you... Just described what oil paint is haha

  • @brunolordey7996
    @brunolordey7996 Před 2 lety

    Almost one mil subs

  • @musslos4167
    @musslos4167 Před 2 lety +8

    The cars that have that "paint" look better than the main livery itself in my opinion almost every time

  • @sterlingnevatte3997
    @sterlingnevatte3997 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd love to get some and slap it on my own car to see how the airflow works

  • @valevigo_16
    @valevigo_16 Před 2 lety

    Next level of tape

  • @jonathancastillo7781
    @jonathancastillo7781 Před 2 lety

    paraffin is synthetic wax often used for cheap candles, i’m sure they add something else to prevent it from immediately hardening like candle wax

    • @redchristy
      @redchristy Před 2 lety

      It's also a refined oil to fuel homes

  • @Ultegra10SPD
    @Ultegra10SPD Před 2 lety

    Nascar was doing it in 70s with baby powder. They thought Harry Hyde was nuts. But he was looking for where the air ended up in the car since they had open windows at the time. -U10

  • @welern2liv815
    @welern2liv815 Před 2 lety

    Can you now explain what AERO RAKES are, what the differences between their shapes, and how the device measures or senses air flow? Are there sensors at the intersections in the tool, etc?
    Thank You All!!!

  • @M0nTyKe
    @M0nTyKe Před 2 lety

    I wonder if they tried to make some substance to spray on the car and that substance to be seen only under UV lights.
    Rival teams could not see the flow of the air on the car with that substance and the teams can easily pull the car in the pit garage and just turn on UV lights
    Idk...just a thought

  • @WithSeb
    @WithSeb Před 2 lety

    Are cars allowed to go on private tracks during development or strictly during those F1 testing days / sessions / whatever they call it now

  • @mattmayor2628
    @mattmayor2628 Před 2 lety

    Paraffin is actually a solvent so it's basically solvent based paint. Just like the ink in a pen

  • @GalaxyZephyr
    @GalaxyZephyr Před 2 lety +5

    It’s not paint it’s powder. But also, they PAINT it on and it DRIES UP. It’s still not paint though….

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Před 2 lety

      yeah it's just a pigment suspended in some solution that will dry up some time after application.
      totally not paint though

  • @skrimcroft5304
    @skrimcroft5304 Před 2 lety +1

    powder mixed with oil is definitely not paint .Agreed

  • @aberamagold7509
    @aberamagold7509 Před 2 lety

    I've been watching F1 for a long time but I've apparently not been paying attention because I've never heard of this.

  • @ashleyw6728
    @ashleyw6728 Před 2 lety +2

    I still think we would have a mad first race, if we just bind off testing, and just went in blind

  • @aluelpaolo7353
    @aluelpaolo7353 Před 2 lety

    This like the modern solution to tape and yarn

  • @itsthorondil7608
    @itsthorondil7608 Před 2 lety

    I wonder why the teams don't use UV sensitive dyes instead of the fluorescent and bright colors, to prevent or at least minimize spying?

  • @TangoNevada
    @TangoNevada Před 2 lety

    I could be wrong, but it seems like if one team designed a car to perform the best in dirty air vs clean air, they would have an advantage, since almost all cars, including the lead car lapping cars are almost always in dirty air and not clean air.

  • @joriscoolen2041
    @joriscoolen2041 Před 2 lety

    I love the paint

  • @jerryvaisanen9810
    @jerryvaisanen9810 Před 2 lety

    Imagine they start doing this with paint that can be seen with UV light :D

  • @mridulbhasy7406
    @mridulbhasy7406 Před 2 lety +1

    Now i know why brawn gp car looked like that..

  • @Wildmarshmellow
    @Wildmarshmellow Před 2 lety

    i dont know for sure but i would bet that they put something radio active in the paint so they can scan it and look at on a digital map of sorts.

  • @Thors_Garage
    @Thors_Garage Před 2 lety

    I've always wondered how hard is it to get off? Mr. Sparkle is missing out on a huge car wash marketing opportunity here

  • @evil7011
    @evil7011 Před 2 lety

    And how about the big teams that have private test tracks next to their headquarters? In theory they can build and test as much as possible. How is FIA regulating and and keeping an eye on the big teams?

    • @countblue
      @countblue Před 2 lety

      If they would be caught the would be fined. Severly probably even DQ
      I dont think anybody risks that.

  • @le0nz
    @le0nz Před 2 lety

    Bro that's the definition of paint. Lol

  • @mcseforsale
    @mcseforsale Před 2 lety

    I can't believe they didn't see the porpoising in the wind tunnel.

  • @PapayaCookieTV
    @PapayaCookieTV Před 2 lety

    See you all at the test livestreams

  • @AshokVaradharajanKumar

    Do they not run test runs privately! before the re season testing? That way they could keep their data safe

  • @jouhannaudjeanfrancois891

    achkthualy i agree, in any way, shape or form, it is paint. What you do with it does not influence what it is

  • @stktriz
    @stktriz Před 2 lety

    Wasn't it Jeremy Clarkson who came up with this on top gear for the art exhibition episode when he used the red bull?

  • @FuddButter
    @FuddButter Před 2 lety

    I believe it's technical term is "schmoo"

  • @pliskanova
    @pliskanova Před 2 lety

    Question: So it is in regulations that the F1 cars cannot be tested privately? I mean there must be tracks they can run as much tests as they want in private.

  • @thelittleowl1
    @thelittleowl1 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for explaining it to everyone. I already knew this.

  • @skaterboss38
    @skaterboss38 Před 2 lety

    had to do a triple take at 0:20 lmao

  • @tpottrell
    @tpottrell Před 2 lety

    Why dont they use a UV flourescent pigment? Other teams wouldnt be able to see it and they can use a black light when its in the garage

  • @ricco325i
    @ricco325i Před 2 lety

    Maybe use fluorescent paint and uv light in the garage, that’s how you hide secrets

  • @nat-fit9791
    @nat-fit9791 Před 2 lety

    They could use an invisible colour, that can only be seen with a specific light.

  • @alejandrolazzarini71
    @alejandrolazzarini71 Před 2 lety

    yes

  • @suvityerramilli2946
    @suvityerramilli2946 Před 2 lety

    Love your vids

  • @aadixum
    @aadixum Před 2 lety +1

    How do teams clean the paint?

    • @leostreat3573
      @leostreat3573 Před 2 lety

      Really ?

    • @ASJC27
      @ASJC27 Před 2 lety +3

      Every team has their own protocol.
      Mercedes used to have Bottas lick the paint off of Lewis’ car.
      Daniil Kvyat is Max’s paint licker.
      Most other teams just use Yuki Tsunoda as a designated licker.

  • @ValiunDH
    @ValiunDH Před 2 lety

    It looks better than Alpine's pink BWT livery

  • @mjribes
    @mjribes Před 2 lety

    I never understood why teams don't use a substance that is only visible under black light or something. That way they can keep the flow patterns secret and analyse them back in the garage.

  • @Zigidy
    @Zigidy Před 2 lety

    Teams should use 'invisible ink' instead that is only seen under UV - that way the photographers can't catch the spray pattern until you take it back into a UV room. Just saying.

  • @lowkey213
    @lowkey213 Před 2 lety

    This idea was conjured up at skunk works for airplanes before there were computer simulations. They just used a rainbow of colors and put the model in a wind mill to see how the paint moved around. It would be simpler to just use Florescent white on white or fluorescent green on green where only black light would show the final result. Someone hire me as an engineer please. I have ideas that will spark ideas for more ideas… I have ideas to make maximum downforce while minimizing vehicle weight under load.

  • @mikemotorsport
    @mikemotorsport Před 2 lety +1

    How have they not invented a paint that can only show up under UV light then the other teams won't see it.

  • @Sn0wc4t
    @Sn0wc4t Před 2 lety

    So this is basically another version of the old "Taped Thread" trick?

  • @window469wow3
    @window469wow3 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for telling

  • @christoforospaphitis4090

    I wonder how much they would to pay someone to discover invincible ink to use as flow-vis

  • @ScotchPolo
    @ScotchPolo Před 2 lety +2

    I've always wondered why teams use a visible 'paint' rather than an UV or IR invisible 'paint' so they can see it but others can't.

  • @SwigerQ86
    @SwigerQ86 Před 2 lety

    If they are so worried about others seeing it. Just make it visible only with a black light

  • @jacktyrie9196
    @jacktyrie9196 Před 2 lety

    im new to f1, why dont they just test the car on track at training facilitys / if theyre not allowed how do the fia monitor it to ensure they dont

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 Před 2 lety

    It's a powder that's mixed with an oily substance.
    So, paint then.

  • @nucleardrifting3864
    @nucleardrifting3864 Před 2 lety

    Why don't the teams use a UV component?

  • @iamformula5551
    @iamformula5551 Před 2 lety

    Budget restriction is clearly the reason why we dont see much innovation on this part (why no newer and cooler tech exists for this like UV). Why would teams spend money on this rather than improve their aero with that money?!

  • @armageddon3952
    @armageddon3952 Před 2 lety

    For aero

  • @TeddyWestside412
    @TeddyWestside412 Před 2 lety +1

    is there a rule that says it has to be the color it is? cant the teams make up some invisible solution that shows in a blacklight? then no other teams could see the results of the test while they come down the pit straight

    • @Gadottinho
      @Gadottinho Před rokem

      You probably can't do that with the same material, it has to be that specific material for it to work as intended

  • @soisaidtogod4248
    @soisaidtogod4248 Před 2 lety +1

    Right, there are "new" fans.

  • @radiospines
    @radiospines Před 2 lety +1

    I’m confused as to what WTF1 thinks paint is, if not powder mixed with oil …

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 Před 2 lety +2

    That why willlams use new green paint in f1

  • @jimmywoody6962
    @jimmywoody6962 Před 2 lety

    Why can't teams use a powder that only shows up under UV?

  • @amyx231
    @amyx231 Před 2 lety

    Powder plus oil is oil paint. That’s paint, mate!

  • @nicolajthybring8706
    @nicolajthybring8706 Před 2 lety

    FINALLY SOMEONE speaks ab it

  • @xtreme814
    @xtreme814 Před 2 lety

    Why don't they use some sort of paint that is only visible under UV light just like what they did on top Gear with David Coulthard

  • @lebronjames-lb8j
    @lebronjames-lb8j Před 8 měsíci

    the first time i saw it was while i was watching the singapore gp and i thought it was mclarens new paint job

  • @patrickkelly8512
    @patrickkelly8512 Před 2 lety

    Pigment and an oil literaly Flo-vis qualifies as paint exactly as per paints dictionary definition

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo Před 2 lety +1

    No Mickey No!

  • @Beregorn88
    @Beregorn88 Před 2 lety

    It's not a paint, it's a pigment mixed with a binder applied on a surface...

  • @zwenkwiel816
    @zwenkwiel816 Před 2 lety

    looks like they ran over an alien...