How fuel can HUGELY affect F1 car performance
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Everyone talks about the drivers, the cars, the teams... but what about the fuel? How much can that influence lap time? Here's everything you need to know.
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Honestly this sustainable fuel is nice and all but the cars produce probably less than 1% from F1's emissions. Instead they should focus on sustainable ways for moving the circus around the world.
You mean like not going from Middle East to Australia then back to Europe, then go to US, then back to Europe again, then go to Canada all for one race and finally back again to Europe until the summer break
The thing is that a lot of the revolutionary ideas in the automobile industry have been created or spread by Formula 1. If F1 manages to run on fuel that is 100% sustainable, the rest of the world is likely gonna follow. While it is true that most emissions happen outside of the track, switching to a sustainable fuel would play a significant role in preserving the environment as well as the internal combustion engine
exactly. but the reality of F1 is that the sport is basically run by the Carbon-Combustion Complex (Oil Companies, Automobile companies, middle eastern nations). They are using motorsport as a way to control the pace of the transition away from fossil fuels. These green initiatives are for motorsport what the Jeddah Grand Prix is for Saudi Arabia
Corn squeeze isnt sustainable, the numbers that are touted by EPA were incorrect. Latest independent studies show that ethanol production generates 20% more carbon than petroleum use. Might as well use the fuel that is already there seeping out of the earths crust.
Trucks and other logistical operations will what makes the difference to the environment, it feels a bit like the biofuel rule is only for press. Not great.
1. the budget cap was increased to allow teams to fill up their cars at tescos (other supermarkets are available)
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i read tescos as tacos and i was like what lmao
@@racer501_sb “Kimi you will not have the taco.”
@@racer501_sb hey man even Taco Bell is cheaper to fill up on gas these days.
The Budget cap wasn’t increased at all - Redbull demanded an increase in exchange for the 6 sprint races going ahead in 2022 even though both the drop by 5m to 135m and the increase of the sprint races had been agreed on before the 2021 season by all teams
135m budget cap and 6 sprint races was the plan for 2022 (with the budget cap dropping further over the next few seasons)
After Redbull’s championship fight with Mercedes’ got further along during the 2021 season they realised they hadn’t allocated the financial detail correctly - as proven by Mercedes not backing them and dealing with the financial like they always do , you can’t spend what you don’t have
Under the cost cap Mercedes would have gained from the increase of the cost cap as under the terms of the cost cap Mercedes’ then Redbull would have the least to spend
Also to bare in mind is at the opening race of the 2022 season Redbull had both its cars retire from the race - they pretty quickly (with no evidence) claimed it was a fuel pump issue in one of the two components supplied by the FIA
When it comes to the fuel and the systems involved it is never Redbull’s fault it is always someone else
They got the extra cost cap cash yes but it didn’t rise like they hoped it would , the decrease got delayed and that was it
Not going to lie... The title and thumbnail are almost the opposite of clickbait. I expected a simple video of fuel goes in, goes boom, engine goes wooooo and wheels spin
What we got instead was a very nice in depth explanation of the whole process and the R&D
Really great video 👍🏻
However the thumbnail “how important is fuel?” can be answered quite easily. Good luck winning any races without fue
@@Somebody-qo9ob fue
@@Somebody-qo9ob 😂😂
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 fue is actually a nice alternative to normal fuel. the missing letter makes it ca. 25% cheaper, i‘d try it out, especially with the surge in gas prices😎👍🏻👍🏻
@@connorestes9814 😂😂
These video's are fueling me with DETERMINATION.
You know today is not a race day when wtf1 uploads this
haha yes but it was informative and somewhat entertaining for us F1 fans, gotta appreciate it 👍
Having worked in a petrochemical lab for 16 years, the specs at 1:46 are really interesting. They are indeed essentially the same as what you get for your regular car, but what you get at the pump is usually the cheapest fuel that can be made to just barely pass the specs while I can imagine that cost is less of an issue for the F1 teams. Some things I can imagine they tweak for different fuel mixes could be the DVPE for cold/hot/high altitude races, Final Boiling point for optimal engine performance and Ron+Mon obviously as these are essential for performance and an engine is usually tweaked to work with an optimal octane number. Also cool to see the same instruments I'm used to such as the Anton Paar densiometer and what looks like a PAC/AC gc of some sort, possibly a reformulyzer.
Hey man what I wanted to ask does F1 fuel aint like more "dry" like our gas station fuel?
@@fakeplayer9088 I'm sorry, but I dont understand the question. Could you please rephrase it? To be clear, I dont know anything about F1 fuel specifically and have only analyzed race fuel on a few occations. The main difference between regular gasoline and race fuel was the octane number. The common gasoline here in Europe have a RON of 95 and a MON of 85-86 ish (sold as an octane number of 95). In America they report the octane number as (RON+MON)/2 so an octane number of 90 would be a rough equivalent. The race fuel I tested had a RON of 105 and MON of 93 ish (cant quite remember as it was a decade ago).
Small question: given the F1 cars have different gas mixtures they use, could that be the same for the general public?
I’m guessing this due to when I had a scooter, I had a bad time with BP gas but had a much better feel with Exon Mobile’s gas and much smoother ride for more premium fuel.
Mine was DongFang SRT50 49cc.
@@TheoCynical I can't say for sure as I'm unaware of how it works where you live. There could be some minor differences, but no matter where you fill up, the fuel must comply with the ISO or ASTM standards set for that specification of fuel. The exact mix you need to have to vomply with the specification depends on the refinery and the crude oil they use. It could be that your motorcycle just liked a certain combo, or it could be like it is where I live and all stations get their fuel from the same fuel depot and therefore sell the same fuel in all stations. In short, could be a placebo effect. But, whatever works, go with that!
That was really thorough and informative. I had little idea how protected the different blends of fuel were and are. Thanks guys!
Hey Matt the 110kg fuel rule is no longer (since 2022). It is now governed by the fuel flow meter. The limit for most teams is now 115-120kg
I'm pretty sure this is the first F1 related video I've seen on CZcams this season that doesn't say the word *Porpoising*
thank you
I’m all for F1 pushing for sustainable fuels cause changing most road cars to it will make a bigger difference in the short term than producing a bunch of electric cars. Plus it means I can still drive my v8 without getting taxed into oblivion.
True people are being naïve with electric cars. There are battery waste implications. We can't just make it disappear.
@@georgeretsides4293 its not naive. Its willful blindness.
Ferrari not being discussed with fuel sensors broke my heart
Same with their deal with fia to make E10 and gain advantage over others
RBR’s DQ for fuel flow was… But of course it wasn’t their fault.
They also provided the FIA with the way Ferrari was likely cheating. Lol
Another's Ferrari's haters detected .....😏😏😏.....
@@azreenklose7976 so mentioning something that happened relatively recently that is directly related to fuel, makes someone a hater? You’re clueless.
@@azreenklose7976 I see it as blatant cheater hating. I’m equal opportunity there.
Thanks for keeping up the content on the off weekends Matt!❤️Appreciate you brother
At 03:24 you say "..as chilled fuel can store more power..."
There may be some gain in power by the cooler charge. The cooler fuel makes for a cooler (=mored dense) air-fuel mixture.
The energy content of the fuel (Joule/kg) is not changed.
I was expecting some new information but ended up finding lots of them, great video guys!
genuine question: if they are able to produce 100% sustainable fuel, what's stopping F1 from going back to V8s with the sound everyone loves and misses? Since it wouldn't be polluting at all
Image. F1 is all about showing a good image. V8 race cars don't go well with the supposed 'carbon neutral' image F1 wants us to see.
V8 turbo hybrids
the car manufacturers wanted to subsidize their hybrid/electric powertrain development for their road cars
@@e2rqey but if cars are going electric in the near future, what are these engines being developed for? iirc mercedes has more or less stopped work on developing new ICEs for road cars in order to switch to electric. if companies DO go electric, then i hope we can go back to older engine layouts like 8s 10s 12s and all that
@@hatchetone100 I don't know, ask the president of Formula E
Great video guys, very informative. Could you do the same for lubes/engine oils?
Surprisingly a more complex and interesting topic than I thought when I clicked this video^^
This is the best video I think you've done. So informative
can you explain the sprint races and everything, also love your channel! - new F1 fan.
A very good in depth analysis of a complex subject
you have been improving content by day and day well done 👏
Have to say I much prefer a longer and more detailed video rather than the short ones which sometimes miss information and aren’t as engaging, you get into it and then it ends, loving the content though as always 👌
Great video 🙌🏽
Great explanation!
Great video, just one little inaccuracy: the fuel needed for a full season is 1200 liters per team per weekend x 10 x 23 =276.000 liters. A jumbo jet can fly London to NY with about 80.000 liters. Still puts a perspective on things, but a season is mor like 3 transatlantic jumbo-jet journeys.
This video is actually so much fun to watch
thanks for this
I can't believe fuel isn't 1 for all.
It must play such a massive roll in engine performance and lubricating the moving parts.
It's like fuelling up at a supermarket and ruining your engine cause it's cheaper or puting in high performance unleaded.
Nice video.
"Renewable" fuel like corn based ethanol is a literal joke. We as a species need to get better at math.
Luckily there is and will be more ways to produce renewable fuel than only corn.
@@Sepi-bx5qd just not many that are much better. Everything sucks and we as a species must consume to continue. It's an objective reality that we've gotta come to terms with cause lying to ourselves isn't gonna make it better
Why no comment about the Deal between Ferrari and FIA about developing Next Fuel (E10)
That helped them in 2022 season
I don't recall that being part of their deal. I only remember it being said that Ferrari would help the FIA figure out how to stop teams from cheating the rules related to fuel.
The new fuel seems to be the difference maker this year there’s no coincidence all Mercedes power teams are struggling mightily with overheating it’s nice to see the midfield so close with the new regs but if Ferrari is just the new dominant car as it looks it’ll be somewhat disappointing to me hopefully red bull and merc can sort their issues if not leclerc is going to run away with the next 5 titles just like Lewis did last regs
Though refueling is band now but in old days strategies were based refueling n tyres thus creating more excitement in F1 ... best example is French GP 2004 where Michael Schumacher won d race even after making 4 planned pitstops...
I really think the 1 litre sample the FIA requires is quite out of date. Back when I was doing ground school, the fuel samples we took from our planes were usually around 0.3 litres. And that was more than enough to run any checks of the fuel’s condition
I am happy to see F1 change to the same types and sizes our road cars use. Running on 18" wheels and moving towards more sustainable fuels as we use will just help develop the tires and gas road cars use.
Small question: given the F1 cars have different gas mixtures they use, could that be the same for the general public?
I’m guessing this due to when I had a scooter, I had a bad time with BP gas but had a much better feel with Exon Mobile’s gas and much smoother ride for more premium fuel.
Mine was DongFang SRT50 49cc.
great video.. nice
Octane 87 and 10% ethanol is the exact fuel we use in the USA. I know the race performance F1 fuel is a little different from that but it's cool to see they're using E10.
I dont get why you americans use 87 octane yet here in europe we use 95 or 98 octane
@@Fred_the_1996 95 is used but that's considered premium and costs more
can you make a video about how lap times are taken in F1?
Is the one liter of fuel, which must come out of the car after the race, measured by volume at a specific temperature, or is that rule inconsistent with the measurement of fuel by mass before the race?
Does anyone have a video on the elevation above sea level for each f1 race track on the calendar?
Thumbnail:how important is fuel
Me: very
5:00 i'm intrested who is fuel suppier of Alfa Orlen or Shell?
next you should make a video about the best f1 GP's of f1 HISTORY
5:00 Exxon branding Replaces Esso Branding on the Red Bull cars when they Race in the United States.
Everybody else, It's the Same Branding for every race.
There was talks back around 2010 after their Gulf Of Mexico Disaster Involving British Petroleum (BP) on rebranding all of their Operations in the USA to the AMOCO (AMerican Oil COmpany) Brand. While that Did not happen, for some reason, since 2017, Both BP and AMOCO are used in The States.
WTF1 is fueling my interest for F1
The value refueling could bring back to races would far outweigh the cost and I dont buy that it cant be done safely, plus a refueling rig would be such a small portion of what they spend.
I used to love the late 90s and early 2000s watching strategies play out. Light loads vs heavy loads and how they affected tyre performance and how it really mixed up strategy variety over a race with pit stop lengths varying by whole seconds instead of tenths. The urgency of a splash and dash for track position. Dancing on the line with lighter loads. There's no good reason we cant have all that back again.
1:01 looks so cool
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Something I've always wondered is how do they fit over 100 liters of fuel in such a small space?
well a 100 liters of gas is about 25 gallons of gas, and if this gas has a similar density to water, which 7.6 gallons of water equals 1 cubic ft, then the tank would be somewhere around 3.5 cubic ft. Which approximating would mean the gas tank would be about 1.15 or 1.2 ft. in every direction.
This is very interested matt talk about how works the formula 1 fuel
Yo matty, u dint mention Ferrari's 2019 fuel flow rate Controversy
well, he is a Ferrari fan😀.
Another's Ferrari's haters detected .....😏😏😏.....
@@azreenklose7976 stating the fact doesn't mean that iam a hater(I'm no fan either) . Cheaters are cheaters and are need to be mentioned especially when other drivers and teams were mentioned regarding same thing
How does fuel tank weight affect porpoising? When fuel tank empties does it cause more or less porpoising? Is there any relation at all?
Exotic fuels was an interesting choice in the past. The idea of pushing what ever is science and engineering cutting edge has become much more constrained and i understand some of why. But our world of motorsport really needs something that has very little regulation and lots of room for creativity and competition. Not banning competitors ideas because they were too good to catch up to that year.
I like the idea switching to 100% renewable fuel, hopefully it wasnt Miles Axelrods idea.
Can a team test fuel on practice sessions? Like "We do not want to use this under race (at the moment), but just test how it behaves with the card?"
In the video it was said all fuels are tested (even randomly), but are they allowed to test new fuels before parc ferme?
With the current ruleset, they can only have a total of 5 different mixtures and bring 2 of those per race. I'm guessing there's mixtures for low air density and rain, while the other 3 are closer together and differ slightly depending on track aspects like acceleration zones and straights. So they probably choose 2 more suited to a track and see which works best. I think you could use either mixture whenever you want, just have to make sure they're identical to what you submitted to the FIA at the start of the season.
As long as performance is not negatively affected, bring on the sustainable fuel.
Not in the near future, I guess.
At least 15-20 years from now.
Wait, was it 9 tenths slower a lap or in all 4 laps?
Just wondering how much fuel is used during a Grand Prix for all the teams including transportation and races, just because formula 1 cars are using less fuel that will not reduce impact on environment
Was going to mention the same thing, not even getting into manufacture of parts and transportation of the materials for them and then the end results.
If a single jumbo jet uses more fuel than all of the cars over a season, then you can assume the environmental impact of using any "green" fuel is a drop in the bucket compared to transportation impact.
@@karlsharks5628 exactly my point
Some of the drivers fly private jets, some of the stuff required for the weekend comes in cargo planes, some in cargo ships. The fuel consumption by these far outweigh the fuel consumption by the cars during the races. That is correct.
But what we should also consider is that F1 is at the heart of lot of innovations for automobile industry. So, if F1 and other moto sports can prove the utility of 100% bio fuel, the mass road industry could follow. This would be a really sustainable change as EV cannot scale due to scarcity of copper, lithium, cobalt and other rare earth metals.
I never knew how fuel could cause an explosion
which fuel is alfa romeo using?
I literally just watched Cars 2 so I’m not to excited for the new fuel years later
Imperial system says they only bring 500 gallons for a race weekend? That’s incredible.
That Ferrari’s jet engine 😂😂😂 I would love to see a video about that engine and the way it consumed the fuel
Surprised to see you didn't mention 2019 Ferrari straight line speed which was apparently due to tricking fuel sensors.
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@@azreenklose7976 not really though. Just a story I remembered after watching the video
Isn't Aston Martin fueled by aramco due to the new deal they signed with them this year?
3:55 still v6 and 30 races in the season better for our lovely FIA than v10 (or even v8) and 18 races...
1000% is important
I thought the fuel flow restriction was removed for this year.
I didn't know there was so much about fuel
That's a lot to take in
Aston Martin has now Aramco as fuel supplier.
it's good to see them try and go sustainable in the cars, but the fact that the cars use less fuel than a plane from London to New York or whatever the line was, and that each team takes a plane to every single race, there's a long way to go before they can truly boast about how environmentally friendly they are
I took a shot evrytime "fuel" was mentioned and im hammerd bruh
So I heard now several times there is still a max of 110 kg fuel per race but German f1 chanel motorsport Magazin reported, that in the new 22 regulations is noticed that there will be NO limit furthermore and teams are allowed to use much fuel as they want. Please check your information again.
It's only sustainable if the initial source of fuel can be produced naturally without hindering essential processes like food production in the same time it is used. So for example about 1500 liter of fuel per can per week. Anything else may be in the right direction but not sustainable.
Surprised you mentioned red bull instead of Ferrari regarding fuel flow
Why do they use mass (110 kg) for max amount of fuel per race, yet use volume (1 L) for the minimum to be submitted after the race? Seems a bit inconsistent, especially given that conditions can be significantly different when you start and end a race.
when is baku in youtuber championship 2016?
*Mercedes HPP employees intensely studying WTF1 CZcams video*
I am very happy to see the cars switch to sustainable fuels. This change is not only good for the environment, but as seen so far this season, it is also good for the competitive nature of the teams and the advancement of technologies. Get to renewable fuels and then make the cars even faster than ever before? Yes please.
And for the argument the traditional fuels are better and stronger... who cares? welcome to the furure, grow up.
6:37
Ah, so it’s like RAM to GPU?
Engine to Fuel?
i just know RB did it first before ferrari in cheating the fuel sensor..
Fuelula One
The 100% renewable fuel for the car means nothing if they don't change how they move them around the world.
I think that while it's good that the cars themselves are switching to a more sustainable fuel, if they're going to truly be a greener sport they need to make every part of their supply chain greener, including all of the trucks used to ship the grand Prix around the globe. (God that makes me sound like a hippy and I hate that but it can't be ignored)
cool regular informative and nice video and then you pulled off a Seb Hungary stab. THANKS
Funny how Matt didn't make any mention of Ferraris Antics back in 2018 😂😂
Who else is excited for the Imola gp?
TBF, source of F1 fuel will have 0 direct impact on "environment" (not running F1 at all would be greenest thing - all cargos, flights, fans moving around, factories etc. - that all thing can use as much as small country/state) but since it has to represent "real world things", one can see how engine makers want it to be as platform for 26-40 (probably?) engine ruleset period (where some good-image hybrids at mid-high to high end gonna make good money for car-makers).
Get em on E85. Not sure why they haven't already gone down this path tbh.
I thought the FIA deleted the rule with the 110 litres
No because like you said all the cars over all the sessions over all the race weekends consume less fuel than one cross Atlantic flight so why bother. Bring back V10s and make the behind the scenes transportation more efficient.
Now I want to know what would happen if you put f1 fuel in a road car 🤔
Based upon what I learned in the video probably not much, but now I’m curious as well.
Yes, it would probably run normal cause it's just a 95. I wouldn't expect any performance boost tho.
Im pretty sure for 2022 there is no limit how much fuel there is on the car, just the fuel flow is regulated.
because there just isn't any benefit for a team to have more fuel in them.
Interesting. Can you do a video on lubricants and how it may impact performance of the car?
Erm... that's this video
No joke, from 2014 until it got clamped down on, many engines were deliberately burning lubricating oil as extra fuel
Shell Ferrari fuel and lubricants engineer is Lisa Lilley. There are a few vids on here.
The Ferrari hype train conductor not mentioning the 2020 fuel flow scandal…
Funfact: the 110kg fuel Regulation has been dropped this year
true..
Matt, I know you bleed Ferrari red but don’t you think there was another team recently who can even more accurately spotlight alleged manipulation of a fuel flow sensor that data captures 2200 times per second? 🏎 🏎 😁
Jokes aside, this was a fantastic video.
What's funny is people keep talking about safety but at the time when Formula 1 made the decision to stop refueling they literally did not mention safety at all they mentioned the cost to run a Formula 1 team that was literally their only reason for stopping refueling. Especially when you consider other racing categories use 100% ethanol which burns almost one hundred percent clear yet they're still able to refuel safely
F1 used to use pump fuel back in the 80's