Rhaenys Targaryen with her children and grandchildren in S1
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2022
- Shoutout to @cydneyreads for requesting this. "the Queen that never was" is definitely one of my favourite characters on this show so this was a no-brainer.
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P.S. This is the first of 4 Rhaenys videos I am planning to put together.
To be honest, with Rhaenys getting all protective of her grandchildren I completely forgot that Daemon is their father.
Which vexes me on why they're so cordial with him. This makes no sense on any level. I don't see how either of them would deal with his ass.
To be fair, in the books Daemon was close to Corlys and they saw the coordinated effort by the maesters and Hightowers to keep Targaryen/Valaryon power from the throne.
Daemon and Laena had by all reports, a loving marriage on Driftmark for 11 years (with Rhaenyra in close company as Dragon Stone and Driftmark are close by). Daemon got on well with Rhaenys as she was a dragon rider (specifically riding Daemon’s mother, Alyssa,’s dragon) and House V despite not being a dragon riding house with the exception of Rhaenys, Laenor, and Laena, kept very much to the customs of Valeria.
Whereas Viserys barely kept Valerian tradition, and was more open to assimilating to Westerosi ways.
Not saying he was perfect but a lot of ‘Fire and Blood’ is a hit piece on Daemon. He definitely didn’t kill Rhea Royce, and it’s more likely that the 2nd exile was because asked for his niece’s hand while still married, not because he bad-touched her.
When you look into Fire and Blood and the Rogue Prince, it becomes evident that Daemon’s agenda is to have children with women of valerian descent in order to produce more dragon riders/ppl with magical genes.
While the prophecy is both a show/not a show thing, Daemon clearly knew something about it as he was taking a page from his grandmother, Alysanne (she fortified The Wall, made sure that roads were built so militaries could be deployed easily, etc.), and making preparations for the Long Night.
I just don't understand why the show runners desperately wants Daemon to be a villain. They deleted a scene where Daemon is seen hugging and comforting his daughters.
@@janellejulianajoyHe was seen teaching Velaryon to Baela. He doesn’t dislike them.
@@ty814 I mean he isn’t, so many people love him, so I think they did a good job telling a perfectly balanced character, someone to easily root for but can be quite messed up.
Viserys was a good man, but his cousin Rhanys would have made a better ruler.
She grew up to become future monarch
@@amyra8159 what? she's not lasting too much longer that's all I'm gonna say...
@@amyra8159 Rhaenys not Rhaenyra
@@rtozier2011 yea, he was talking about Rhaenys, she doesn't last too much longer story wise.
Hell Yhea!!
'She lived fearlessly, & died the same...' - never has seven words fit a character so aptly
you just spoiled everyone…
@@elodie6464
Is it _really_ a spoiler when these people are long dead by the time of the original show? Saying a person died fearlessly? 🤔Is it a spoiler to say Aegon the Conqueror died- that Torrhen Stark died, & that Cregan Stark will die, as will the Lannister twins...?
@@elodie6464 everyone dies
I believe that war took away some of the best Targaryens.
@@OcarinaSapphr- EVERYONE is dead by the “original show”. Stop spoiling it for everyone. We get it. You read the book.
Corlys never cared that Leanor's sons weren't biologically his he loved them
He loved the name, let’s be honest.
She loved them
To they say ad much she’s not cruel just because she knew they where not her sons children would not mean she would treat them meanly or I love catelyn but R would not trey her “ grandsons.” Like catelyn treated jon .
A fool
He also legitimised Valaryon bastards and staunchly claimed them as his own
@@KoiYakultGreenTea He never formally legitimized them. He just allowed people to believe they were his.
Bethroting Jacaerys to Baela and Lucerys to Rhaena Targaryen is a power move. Like their hypotetical children will still have Velaryon and Targaryen genes flowing.
A move that only benefits Rhaenyra. Let's be honest and say it as House Velaryon didn't need Rhaenyra. It is the other way around. I'm shocked the Green's didn't try and weasel their way in because House Velaryon is one of the main reasons Rhaenyra survived as long as she did.
Imagine them declaring for Aegon. This gives them the Velaryon fleet as well as Rhaenys by default unless she chose to be neutral.
People speak on Helaena and Jace being a missed opportunity, but nah, this was.
@janellejulianajoy
It does for Rhaenyra but in the long run it heals old wounds and binds the realm. Remember, the reason why Rhaenyra was married to Laenor was because of King Viserys turning down to marry Laena, this was strike two on the Velaryon's side (the first one was Princess Rhaenys being passed over in favor of her uncle Prince Baelon). The Velaryons have a powerful fleet and also Dragons, King Viserys at least knew that he can be opposed by the Velaryons, hence the marriage pact. Hence the Velaryons declaring for the Blacks.
If Jace and Haelana would indeed marry. No more future quarrels with the Velaryons and no split factions in the court. The Dance of the Dragons was a stupid war that ended in the decline and eventual extinction of their dragons. Also bottlenecked the whole Targaryen family.
Also this makes me think, since Westeros is a patriarchal society, did Aegon III's future claim came from his descent as the next senior male branch (from his father Daemon).
@@janellejulianajoyHouse Valeryon didn't "need" Rhaenyra, but they saw her as family (which she was, Valeryon blood ran through her veins, just as Targaryen blood ran through Corlys's). You don't "need" your family but you support them anyways. Laenor and Laena would've unconditionally supported Rhaenyra since they were very close, Corlys was behaving in a fatherly way towards Rhaenyra, and with 3 members of her family supporting Rhaenyra, Rhaenys would've naturally supported her as well (also Rhaenys was close to Viserys and Aemma than Alicent and Otto). The only Valeryon not supporting her was Vaemond, and the odds were certainly not in his favor.
It benefits both sides. Jace is set to inherit the Iron throne after his mother Rhaenyra, he would be the first Velaryon(by name but will transition to Targaryen once he is crowned) to become King of the 7 Kingdoms, Baela will become eventually.@@janellejulianajoy
@@fortheloveofcats2462Be honest. Who saw her as family BESIDES Corlys and Laenor? Rhaenys, a Velaryon through marriage does not. In fact she blamed her for Laenor. She doesn't even like Rhaenyra. You think.Vaemond is the only one with hesitance?! The moment Corlys died they'd look to ensure Luke didn't inherit.
The execution of Vaemond for telling the truth was another strike against them. Like, they fucked this house over and expect unbridled allegiance?! No. Even the last get out of jail free card carrying Strong son breaks his betrothal to Baela for a bastard.
These people should've remained neutral. No respect was ever really given to them by the royal family. If I'm Corlys then I would've told Rhaenyra where she could shove it. Period. Handle it on your own. At some point actions have to be reciprocated.
The best line "History does not remember blood, it remembers names."
It also remembers the color of the hair.
Being adopted myself, Corlys's take on legacy made me feel warm inside.
That's pretty cool
Even though they didn't have much screen time together you can tell Rhaenys loved her children and grandchildren very much. I also love that after she talks with Corlys about the Laenor's son that she seems to accept them moving forward. One of my favorite moments for Rhaenys and Corlys was when they rushed to protect Jace and Luce when Alicent came at Luce/Rhaenyra with a knife. Now that the time skips are over, I'm excited to see her and Corlys get more screentime with their grandchildren.
yes!!! this!!!! so true. I love the mutual respect and love they all have for each other. Corlys and Rhaenys are the blueprint.
You're right that even if they don't see eye to eye on something they discuss it and come to a compromise and that's that. Another example I love is when Corlys arrived after his illness and he was telling her that they're done with the iron throne and choosing sides, but then she updated him on her point of view, and when he came down to Rhaenyra and her war council, he had changed his mind because he listened to his wife.
I still find Corlys' reasoning regarding the 3 "Strong" boy's rather odd, to the point even Rhaenys disagreed for a while before siding with her husband on it
Other than that, she's a decent character but her "show of force" to the Greens, I feel, was out of character, or at least not a smart think to do overall.
Corlys loves all his Grandchildren’s and im glad he defended Rhaenyra. Remember “they don’t remember blood they remember names!”
There better be a scene with them learning about luc next season.
@@thalmoragent9344 I think Corlys accepting the "Strong boys" makes more sense in the books where Baela & Rhaena were betrothed to Jac & Luc much younger (when they were like 2 and the boys were 3 & 4) Corlys had already been assured for years by this point in the story that Rhaenyra & Laenor understood the importance of carrying on the Velaryon bloodline as best they could given the circumstances, and had long intended for those betrothals to do exactly that.
Notice how Jace and Luke stood in a respectable stance as soon as Corlys is introduced.
Showing respect to their grandfather.
They loved him since they were little. He was probably the more present grandfather than Viserys.
well he’s still lord of Driftmark.😂the boys have court manners, thier mothers a princess, not shocking.
@@tanesharichardson3311 Not their grandfather
@@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494 the kids don’t know that.
Even though she knew they weren't her's by blood, she did love her grandsons. She found away to continue her husband's line in both name and blood. And she knew that her son loved his boys.
Exactly! This is why I felt Vaemond was being selfish. Velaryon blood was going to rule Driftmark AND the Iron Throne through Rhaena/Luke’s & Baela/Jace’s children. Like how shortsighted can you be my guy?!
her grandkids was related to her
@@mirafloyd5756 At the time of Vaemon approaching the court, the bethrotal hadnt been made. It was only when Rhaenyra forged an alliance with Rhaenyra during the proceedings that it came into existence... Not that that would have stopped Vaemond, obviously
@@mirafloyd5756 he wanted the throne of driftmark, Vaemond was a schemer who wanted his brothers wealth and power. It was never about whats good for his house but what was best for him.
@mirafloyd5756 Extremely and with good reason! Forget marriage alliances. Those boys were bastards. Did anyone see Joffrey as the rightful king after Robert died?! Robert claimed him, but, he was a bastard. This resulted in Stannis and Renly rebelling against the crown, same as Vaemond.
Selfishness is forcing your children into a position that hurts them after you're gone. If Rhaenyra believed these boys would NEVER face backlash then it shows just how recklessly spoiled and entitled she is.
I adore that Corlys and Rhaenys accepted Laenor's adopted kids. They had to have known this was likely his only chance to have kids, knowing his taste in people, and knowing that their son loved those boys and accepted them as his was enough for them. The only reason they bring it up is because they know what the rest of Westeros sees; bastards who should not be in line to inherit anything, and another reason to deem Rhaenyra as unworthy and only hungry for power.
Same with Viserys who knows his grandsons are "bastards" but literally does not care and loves them all the same. In the book there's even a scene where Jace is sitting on his lap and Viserys points to the iron throne and says "lad some day this will be your seat"
I wish you included that scene where Corlys and Rhaenys protect their grandchildren from Alicent when she tried to put out Lucerys' eye.
Now that you mention it, me too ☹️
"Their grandchildren"
@@pedrofernandes2466 Yes their grandchildren. The acknowledged children of their son Laenor!
@@pedrofernandes2466You're silly. We know they aren't. 😂😂😂😂
Sometimes Rhaenys’ screams over her son echoes in my head. Even though we know he’s okay, it’s devastating knowing that she lost both her children within so short a time.
Favourite power couple honestly. The actors did such a fantastic job bringing these characters from the page into life!
True power couple.
Regardless of how much screen time and how much longer she will remain alive, Rhaenys is my favorite character.
Rook's Rest and Gullet are probably Ep 9 and 10 of season 2, so one more season of her.
@@XiyuYang Rook's Rest is episode 5 and Gullet 9. I am bracing myself because Rhaenys instantly became my favorite Targ female.
@@XiyuYang season 2 will probably end with Rhaenyra taking KL with both Jace and Rhaenys dead, although she will have the dragonseeds.
I’m not prepared for any of this. It was hard enough to READ 😭💔
It's a bit of a pity that Rhaenys in the series does not have the features that she inherited from her mother Baratheon, in the books she was dark-haired and they were diluted only by gray hair with age
Yes, despite the universe's simpler understanding of genetics, Jace and Luke could very well simply have inherited their great grandmother's hair colour. It would also not be impossible for Laenor to have kids whose skin tone is closer to Rhaenyra than his own (in theory, since he's very much gay
Yes, which made Rhaenyra's children situation less obvious and create more doubts.
Yes and highlight that Baratheon hair is a strong gene as was an important piece of information in Game of Thrones.
@@boopdedoop3764 I'm pretty sure homosexual doesn't effect skin color?
@@vincegalila7211 No, homosexual effects his ability to sire children with Rhaenyra.
What I love about Corlys is that yet he is ambitious and ruthless and has had a huge ego, but he respects the women of his family, and loves his children and grandchildren, even those conceived by a surrogate so they are not his blood, and does not see them as pawns to be passed around. So different to Otto who sees his children and grandchildren only as ways to advance his own power.
No se porque otro no se preocupo por criar a aegon .debió haberlo un buen hombre
In the books she arrives at her wedding on dragonback. Such a badass.
This show kinda feels like a peace offering after S8 of Thrones^^
This is one of the best ways to describe HotD. And we have accepted HBO'S offering !
@@alexistaylor969 😂😂😂 have you watched the show? Or are you just devoid of critical thinking that you get your opinions from social media
Peace offering? GOT doesn't need to do that since the fans crawled right back lol
@@alexistaylor969 what’s woke about it? black ppl and women? 😂
Kinda makes it sting even more though, seeing as all of this leads into that and the conclusion of the great prophecy reeaally fell flat.
I love the way her husband still cared about those boys even though they where not his blood an she was a good women
I love them SO much! Eve Best and Steve Touissant are spectacular actors. My eye is always drawn to their performance. I love how Rhaenys is with all the children.
She was a very loving mother and grandmother
A horrible person
What do you mean
@@hanshotlast no she wasnt
The Driftmark and Valyron strand of the show is such a pleasant surprise. A few great, intriguing characters.
Such a happy family… thats why they have such few scenes 😂
😂 exactly. I wish we got to see rhaenys and corlys interact well enough with the pre teen and teen version and also the wish we saw how Corlys and rhaenys treated the adult version of their son. Or rhaenyra and leanar's friendship and more leana in general. What a tough yet loving character. Got it from her mother.
@@realdavidjones1623 Wasn't it nice to see an actual family without incessant gaslighting?
I love the actress who plays Rhaenys, she is amazing! 👏👏
I love how Rhaenys supports Corlys naming Luke his heir to the outside, tho they were arguing heavily among themselves
Rhenys is a queen with good heart, always loved and wished good for her cousin viserys although she had all the reason to hate him
5:55 Aegon going peak teenage brat, doesn't even care that things are going against his family, he's just like *ok that's settled can I go back to my room*
Things would've gone against his family either way. Rhaenyra and her children were his family too.
6:26 gives me chills every time. Such a power couple
Aegon smiling when Rhaeneys support the blacks 😂😂
That boy had zero desire to be king
💀
I loved this woman's character in the series. I was however surprised her husband left home for 6 years! Season 2 will be very interesting. 😁
Oh man, only 7 minutes out of the whole season...I wish we're treated to more of the Velaryons. Corlys and Rhaenys is one of my fave married couples in Fire and Blood. Jaeharys and Alysanne is another one...
Rhaenys had a longer screen time. Remember the chaos at Driftmark, her talk with Alicent Hightower and her escaping with Meleys. Though I agree it felt short as she was my favourite character in Fire and Blood.
I feel bad for Rhaenys. She’s already lost two children(although one of them is still alive but she doesn’t know that), might lose her husband, as they seem to love each other, and now Rhaenyra really expects her to join them after not even telling her that Laenor is alive. As his mother, she has a right to know that. Even though Daemon and Rhaenyra didn’t actually kill Laenor, they are horrible people for not telling Corlys or Rhaenys at all. Shameful.
IT WOULD MAKE THEIR CHILDREN ILLIGITIMATE
Heck yeah, adopted gang rise up 😤
What speak English
We need more of the Velaryons, they are just glorified extras at this point and are too important to be afterthoughts like the writers have been doing, if they going to have biases (the writers) this deep, then just cast the color they wanted than comprise the story
It makes you fully understand what's happening though others may say you're reaching. You're right, this family is extremely important, yet, they're treated like afterthoughts. We saw hardly nothing of Laenor and Laena and Daemon's girls might as well be cardboard cutouts.
Can’t believe they set laenor up for a marriage he could not fulfill and then had the audacity to waver support for his adoptive sons.
I love her! Classy , badazz, loyal , loving and intelligent. Also....she has a kind heart
Love this show. I'm like a dope fiend walking around waiting for HOD to come. I'm having GOT ptsd! 😂😭
The shot of Rhaenys walking out of the cave on Dragonstone to the beachhead was the EXACT same shot of John and Danny walking out in unison prior to Tyrion informing her about the destruction of the Greyjoy fleet and John advising Danny not to melt castles and burn cities with her dragons!!😮
Corlys and Viserys were honestly great fathers/grandfathers. They just wanted everyone to stop fucking up and fighting each other. They knew having family vs family would ruin both houses.
Viserys was not. I liked him, I did but in order to be a great parent you have to love your children, equally. Viserys didn't give a rats ass about his children with Alicent and it showed. Not one of them felt a thing when that man died.
Folks talk about Joffrey but you.coyld see the sadness on his face when he visits Robert on his death bed, though Robert openly dismisses him. That's the only time we saw a reaction like that from Joffrey. Viserys kids didn't.even care enough to try and feel sad and that was his failure as a father, not theirs.
Viserys was never a great father lol
@@janellejulianajoyViserys loved all his children and grandchildren, even though he was more close with Rhaenyra and Helaena than his sons. The show cut his interactions with his children, like they did with most men in the show but that doesn't mean he didn't love them. Only Aemond didn't love him, Aegon, Helaena and Daeron loved him.
Rhaenys would have made a wonderful queen
Coris was great man he love strong sons as his honour man
I like her character in the books, but it would've been nice to see her be a bit more supportive of Rhaenyra after she was named heir.
She knew her grandchildren weren't really hers. She couldn't support her cheating on her son. Come on lol
@@ivana1016 But she knew her son was gay and that he was also cheating on Rheanyra as well?
@@ivana1016 I think what she couldn’t support was Rhaenyra’s ignorance in choosing a lover that obviously looked nothing like them. It made their family a laughing stock, and made Rhaenyra weaker to the eyes of the realm how can someone like that support her family?
@@superfan2122
In the words of Dr. Mary Bailey from Grey's Anatomy: "Dragon bitch choose the wrong male whore".
She believed Rhaenyra and Daemon had her son killed why would she be more supportive? Before this instance they may not have seen each other much, and lets not forget none of those kids are biologically her sons. Rhaenys real motivation, one that makes more sense than Rhaenrya showing restraint, is the fact that her granddaughters are betrothed to Jace and Luke. They are directly in harm's way, especially Baela because she insists on fighting.
Theres so much rhaes in the show. (Rhae-nyra, Rhae-nys, Rhae-na)
Frankly Rhaenyra should have just chosen Harwyn from the start but Corlys’s line about history remembering names not blood was as good as him adopting the “strong” boys
Could somebody PLEASE tell this poor woman that her son is in fact alive before she goes to her death?
had to get a whiteboard to keep track of all the inter-family marriage this season
So good! Thank you for posting!
Imagine the pride Rhaenys must have felt when she and Laenor first flew their Dragons together.
Reheanys proposition for her daughter to marry Visery was a good idea because she saw even if her daughter bore a son the contention for the throne may lessen, and both side can easily marry each other
I wanna see if Corlys is gonna be so caring for Addam and Alyn. In the book hè genuinly loved them
Bran is watching all of this unfold
The 3 eye raven is, bran is essentially dead, his body hosts the 3 eyed raven - who is believed to be a Targaryen. So the three eyed raven is watching and manipulating it as well.
lord Corlys and Princess Rhaenys are one of the most best and respected people on the show ( Other than Daemon who is a badass and Viserys who is trying to be a good family man but a weak king)
Rhanys lost her children, please spare the girls……
Who am I kidding
But they are Targaryen by name .
Raela and Baela survived the dance
@@simouniel867 shhh.. OP may not know the story LOL ETA: Since they've made a change or two on S1..who am I kidding, I have no idea how sh1t going to turn out lol
Colys loves his grandchildren blood isn't everything.
Name is, don't lie.
All that mature beauty and grace wrapped in formidable dragon knight-princess AND she's into black dudes? I am in love. Remember that scene when folks were bowing to her cousin and she just stood there looking at her like "we'll see..." Then she smiled at her when she kicked everyone out the room so she could yell at her uncle-husband Daemon, even though she had killed her son.
Dude, what?! I am laughing my ass off at this comment. I am telling you though, Rhaenys is easily my favorite without even trying.
@@janellejulianajoy She's the definition of regal, even when she's coming through the floor on a dragon and staring down everyone like "Y'all are slipping, I could end all this right now"
Love the valariyons❤
hate to say…i think my favorite scene of her is when they find Laenor’s corpse. Eve ate that up the Best.
I see what you did there hehe
Biggest bullshit of the season was when we saw Rhaenys and Meleys riding in with Laenor and Seasmoke. WHERE WAS LAENA ON VHAGAR.. that would have been such a cool moment…
It's so annoying 🙄. The show went out of their way to cast 3 versions of each of her children just to not use them to their fullest
They even removed the scene when she and Rhaenys find Vhagar. The Velaryon's were done dirty as hell.
Eve Best might be our next Helen Mirren.
When Rhaenys is far way more intelligent than Vicerys. LoL if what if Daemond and Rhaenys wed each other. There would be no kore dance of the dragon from the very beginning.😂
Daemon would've been a garbage fit for Rhaenys. Corlys compliments her well, Daemon should've been King Consort with Laena( had Rhaenys taken the throne then the law would've changed so that the throne goes to the oldest child regardless of gender and since Laena is older so she would've been Queen after Rhaenys)
@@marwanali4878quien sabe .a lo mejor lo deja como estaba.porque rainira cuando subió al trono no cambió la regla,para subiera una mujer al trono
The Velaryons hair look like Mops
It’s funny how she says “are not of your blood” because they are still of her blood even if it just her cousins 😂.
They are also of his blood, because all of House Targaryen at this point has Velaryon blood since Queen Alyssa Velaryon.
I wish she’d had the Baratheon black hair like she’d had in the books.
she would be THE queen
The casting was off for the grandkids. They had biracial for the kids which was realistic but blacks for the grandchildren when they had one white parent and one biracial parent which would've made them 3/4 white or 75%.
I love both of them, the only true couple in all of Westeros at this time.
I think the dance was part of old king jaherys fault, he should've married viserys and rhaenys from the start.
Actoraza!!
Rip luke and arrax 😭
As much as I like her show character, I still don't feel the show did enough justice to the character compared to the books. I truly hope we see that bad ass side of her in season 2.
And yet in the end he betrayed his Queen despite the fact that the Greens slayed his wife..He is lucky Lord Stark was merciful.
Do you have selective memory loss? Who was imprisoned due to Rhaenyra's paranoia? At that point all bets are off.
He didn't owe her shit. And his wife died because she was fighting a war, for her mind you, and was sent to Rook's Rest without backup. Rhaenyra didn't want her sons (Jace and Joffrey) to assist due to her fear of losing them. Corlys almost left her after that and rightfully so. I still believe he should've.
@@janellejulianajoy Also it's hardly a betrayel he mostly wanted to end the war with everyone on both sides dying at that point.
The only thing i dislike is how they completely assassinated rhaenys’s character here 2:21 … i let the dragon pit slip but rhaenys would never say these things even in private. She’s spiteful of the system, power hungry, and too prideful to even acknowledge accusations even if it they are true.
If she said those things after Laenor's kids died, then yes, it would make sense. Besides, the boys were betrothed to Laena's daughters, so a true Velaryon would always be the heir. I agree, there really isn't any reason for her to say that (except to make Corlys look cool ig)
She just lost her daughter
How is this assassination when it's the truth?! Like seriously.. is she obligated to overlook the fact that these kids aren't her sons while EVERYONE ignores her biological granddaughters? She's asking for Driftmark to pass through Baela as the eldest descendant of Corlys with actual Velaryon blood.
I don't get why people think everyone should bend and accept this lie because it's the narrative Rhaenyra CHOSE for her own life.
I love her more for it.
@janellejulianajoy people act like you can only love a child if they're biologically related to you. Laenor saw and raised the boys as his own. They are his sons, therefore her grandchildren. Blood isn't the only thing that makes a family.
They completely screwed the boys over by giving their grandmother silver hair. She had dark hair like the Bratheons. So the boys dark hair could have come from her side. But they wanted to make Allicent look like the good guy. ( She was not.)
Velaryons had their own flex. Such a shame they were gone so soon and their lands went to shitty Greyjoys
What land? They reside in the Crownlands on the other side of Westeros. They are also still alive by asoaf.
The only time they ever had anything to do with the Greyjoys was with Dalton Greyjoy who wanted to kill Alyn but never even made it to Driftmark, he didn't even make it to the Crownlands, but died in the Westerlands.
Otto and Alicent is greedy. Their are not gonna share power. Otto went as far as trying to marry baby Aegon to Rhaenyra. If Alicent is really smart - she had have Helaena marry Jace and Aegon and Aemond marry the Velaryon girls. That ensure all her fort covered - from the Targaryen to Hightower to Velaryon. Daemon won't be able to do anything cause his not the head of any house. At least Rhaenyra attempted to permanently squash the problem at one point, unlike Alicent. Corlys is right. His choices - in the end - always benefits and made sure his name survive. Who needs legit heirs when the line is running extinct? Who cares if they don't have Laenor's blood if they carry the name? Heck, Laenor happily named the youngest after his lover. He wanted his "first born" - Jace - to be named Joffrey but Corly's did not agree. LOL
spoiler:
Corlys named a bastard - a Velaryon in the end... to make sure his family name survive.
Oh nice. In front of a Raven's tree.
I do like that Rhaenys is not on board with Daemon or Rhaenyra’s bullshit.Like when she approaches her by the heart tree, and tries to be all casual despite the fact she literally decided to not deny she murdered Laenor and thought it would make her feared and respected, and Rhaenys just looks at her like “The audacity of this bitch”.Or when Rhaenyra tries to get her support at first with nothing to offer, and a empty promise she did not kill Laenor, as if it’s fine that her only true grandchildren will get nothing and be disinherited so her bastard kids can have driftmark and the iron throne.
And she’s not pleased with Daemon at all, she knows him far better then Rhaenyra can pretend she does, she knows he’s been grooming her since childhood so he can marry her and take the throne, and she blames him for Laena’s death and the fact she could never see her daughter again nor even her own granddaughters until their mothers death.She knows just what sort of man he is and suspects he had Laenor killed, and the audacity of him to marry Rhaenyra so soon after Laenors death, so soon after his own wife Laena died.
And she’s not impressed because Rhaenyra is just being his pawn, she’s a fool who thinks he loves her only and is someone he is not.
Season 2 I think she’s going to get more disillusioned and fed up with both of them, and this will likely carry on to Corlys and Baela and Rhaena, since Daemon does Blood and Cheese and the head of Jaeharys is diplayed by him like a trophy to Rhaenyra, which I doubt the two girls, Corlys and Rhaenys will be fine with, then Rhaenyra being cowardly by not sending anyone to fight and Rhaenys herself having to fight, then once she’s dead Corlys will hate Rhaenyra and see her and her sons a lot less positively since now Joffrey is the only way Velaryons can have driftmark and he’s way too young, the two girls will also resent the R and D for this and then when the battle of the gullet happens even more anger, since they have lost driftmark, high tide, the wealth, 1/3 the fleet and Rhaenys, and now it means that Rhaenyra can only bethroth Joffrey to one of them, which means Rhaena will be lady of driftmark with no ties to the throne now since only 1 strong remains.
Rhaenyra will i suspect end up with a siduation like the karstarks, close kin and powerful allies whose loyalty is now frayed and she must do her best to try and keep them on her side, despite the loss of their family, home, castle, and wealth in support of her.
It's explained in a deleted scene. Rhaenys helps because of Baela. Rhaenys was getting ready to leave with Rhaena and Baela until the latter protested. Corlys wanted to leave as well.
They should've declared neutrality because this fight is not theirs. They gained nothing from allying themselves with Rhaenyra. Through Daemon, they at least got Baela and Rhaena. The show chose to erase everything that would make this alliance understandable, as in F&B, Laena and Rhaenyra are very good friends. Daemon also has a good relationship with Corlys.
The writing is sloppy.
5:57 “Ag-“
1:41 is Rhaenyra, not Rhaenys
Rhaena Targaryen is made for BWC
What have you done to my beloved house Velaryon? Love their looks, but those wigs. Jesus.
Jace lowkey looks like Craig from Degrassi 💀random thought cuz the actors face looks strangely familiar
Goodbyeee
In the book Rhaenys' hair is black and then turns white after old age, but in the show she starts off as blonde then later goes full white
Can someone who read the books explain how in the world they managed to 1. get a volunteer to throw themselves in the fireplace OR 2. get an already dead body thrown in the fireplace??? Never could figure out how we went from one "faked" dueling scene to POOF! throw another body in the fire so badly burnt even the parents can't recognize it's not their son, run off into the sunset, AND all this happened with guards stationed just outside the doors. Anyone??
There wasn't a volunteer. Daemon murdered the guy they threw in the fire. There was a scene in the episode showing him surprising the guy, and killing him from the back. It is a quick scene so it might be easy to miss.
@@kierakayz oooo ty, definitely going to rewatch that episode, then. So they stored a dead body in the room somewhere until the duel? Hid him under the couch cushions or something? lol
In the book Laenor actually dies. Qarl kills him with a lot of witnesses and it's rumored that Daemon payed him to so that he could marry Rhaenyra, the other rumor is that their relationship was over and Laenor wanted to leave Qarl.
Rhaenys was actually black haired as opposed to what was shown in the show
God, the 7 Kingdoms were so much wealthier, more lively, had fuckin dragons etc before the Usuper and Mad King. Too bad the future isn't bright either with freakin Bran as king.
Who was the burnt person
Ser Laenor
@@catwantscookie wydm laenor still alives
@@ksatriapawana5265 in this scene rhaenys was crying over 'laenor's' body
@@ksatriapawana5265 it's not actually him though
@@catwantscookie bruh
How could Rhaenys support Rhaenyra if she thinks that Rhaenyra killed her only son?
Because Aegon is a rapist lol
Political power. Rhaenyra's sons still have Velaryon names.
Because of Baela and Rhaena, they are both Targaryen by names and Daughters of Daemon who has aligned himself with Rhaenyra so in order to protect their grandkids, they have to side with Rhaenyra
@@marwanali4878 It took Baela for Rhaenys to stay and assist. She wasn't going to help Rhaenyra at first.
Who was all burnt up?
Some poor servant.
Did she say marry her sons to Lord Corlys granddaughters? They are also his grandsons
Valyrians marriage is often close. So marrying close family is common. But also a degree of separation which is natural in that they were discussing Rhaneyra’s children but also recognizing others aswell. Instead of saying Laena make a reference to Corlys.
They are not. Those children are bastards. I love them, but, it is what it is.
how did no one realize rhaenyras kids weren't the one guys? he black with white hair as is all his family...why did they assume rhaenyra whom also has white/blonde hair would birth dark haired kids with no ethnic anything to them...
Little 🐍🐍🐍
I’m mixed race and the casting for Laenas kids are waaaay off. Laena is mixed race and daemon is white, those kids blacker than Laena 😂. How Laena got curls and her girls got locs beyond me.
Rhaenys didn't love her grandsons did she?
yes she did, when she says to corlys they will not survive if aegon takes the throne
She didn't hate them but it wasn't the same as the love she had for Baela and Rhaena.
@@janellejulianajoySo she did not love them
The hair and makeup department did a disservice to the Velaryon actors/actresses. Their hair looks like bad Halloween costumes.
I can't stand her , sorry but she is just a shadow of the real Rhaenys from the books they also made an amazing house ( Velaryons ) useless and annoying in the show
I don't think her son could have kids
I also wish that they would have told her about her son I feel like she would have kept that secret as long as she knew that her son was alive
That's what I also assume because Rhaenyra told Daemon that they did try to make legitimate children.
sadly she's going to die soon
Yeah sorry mate the little white boys with brown hair ain’t related to you 😅
Dragons used to be so beautiful to me. Why did Daenerys ruin that for me? 😭😭😭😭
How
How did she ruin it? I loved her interactions with her dragons more, honestly. They truly were her "children".
@@janellejulianajoy by using them to destory kingslanding
@@realdavidjones1623 She used Drogon as a WMD, but even before then you saw what they were capable of. That doesn't stop them from being very beautiful and exotic creatures. Dangerous, but beautiful in their own way.
Damn, I sound like a Targ. Lol.