This Movie Was Made With A Gay Version And A Straight Version | CanonBall
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- What happens when a movie's makers are so diametrically opposed creatively? You of course make two different versions so everyone is happy.
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The prequel of _The Exorcist_ also has two versions. The original director was fired, they bring another guy to basically reshoot more than half of the movie but then the first director is allowed to release his version; it was sort of a precursor to the releasethesnydercut movement... except that nobody was clamoring for anyone of those movies to be released because everybody knew a prequel to _The Exorcist_ could only be a dissapointing cashgrab
I saw them both in theater. I was confused when I went to see the second on that came out and was like "Didn't I see this alread?"
Oh yeah, I remember that. One made sense kinetically and the other one was confusing.😅
ALL of the old James Bond movies could stand to be gayer! (Then there’s a chance in hell that the lead lady in each of them would get treated as a person rather than a toy. Actually, know what? Go ahead and make the leading ladies the gay ones, they’ll be SO much happier leaving 007 awkwardly standing in a corner!)
Release the gay Snyder cuts!
The Snydaire cuts, if you will?
"Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
*holds Louie's hand*
Boom. Done. 15% more interesting movie.
Cracked better have a playlist of CanonBall so I could binge any episodes I haven't seen. More of this.
I used to show Let Their Be Light in my film class. It was hard to find a copy back in the day.
Um, all trains are bisexual.
Tango and Cash would a masterpiece if it was just 30% gayer. Most buddy cop movies would, actually.
Sounds like the Captain knew exactly what he was doing, too bad his work wasn’t allowed to be seen.
I love it, lol
I need bootlegs of these
gross
Do the three clearly Criterion-worthy movies at the end know Disney's been stealing their ideas for certain (international) markets for a while now without giving credit? How rude of the House of Mouse.
As for an "a little bit gayer (that could still be edited out for international markets)" version of a classic movie, what instantly came to mind was _Casablanca_ of all things since Louis already has a surprising amount of subtext that hints at him being bisexual or at the very least attracted to Rick too in addition to women. All you'd have to do is make that, well, text, but that would require remaking _Casablanca_ in the first place, so please don't even though you're creatively bankrupt, "mainstream" Hollywood.
Okayyyy?? I thought the same.
Agreed entirely on Casablanca, though I do think the door was left wide open at the end.
@@mackenziedrake Oh, I agree. The "beautiful friendship" could easily have become more than friendship, especially with Rick finally "over" Ilsa even though both he and she still clearly love each other. Just like how it could have remained entirely platonic between Louis and Rick post-movie even if they were both attracted to each other, especially given the time period and being in the midst of war. We never see what happens one way or the other though given it's the end of the movie even though the subtext is there for it, which is why I said "gayer" than "gay" (or, to be more accurate I guess, "more bisexual" rather than just "bisexual").
Hell, even if someone stripped out all of the subtext about Louis save for only one existent line, what Louis says to Ilsa soon after meeting her would still remain pretty close to text: "Rick is the kind of man that...well, if I were a woman, and I were not around, I should be in love with Rick." There are *so* many ways to have phrased that while still being in-character and still keeping the joke about Louis's vanity without making it seem like the only reason he hasn't tried to jump Rick's bones--besides being forced to work with the Nazis--is because they're both men (in the 1940s). This especially since that line isn't one of those amusingly accidental "having a gay old time" language drift ones that meant something entirely different at the time.
@@MusicoftheDamned Exactly, and Rick's complete comfort with Louis and his attraction certainly suggested that it wasn't the first time that sort of thing had happened, to whatever conclusions there might have been in the past. It wasn't the only one of Bogart's movies that have those contexts -- The Maltese Falcon's villains were just blatant coded IMO -- but it's the kind of thing a straight audience didn't have to acknowledge, so it got past the censors.
@@mackenziedrake Yeah. I mean, it also "helps" that subtextually gay _The Maltese Falcon_ characters are all, well, *villains* too. So there could be more overt gayness in their cases that pretty much makes their all but explicitly said sexualities rather clear without being too "upsetting" or otherwise "unusual" for audiences since that's all lesbian or gay characters--since it's not like anything else was acknowledged at the time, even just bisexuality--were allowed to be if they appeared at all under the Hayes Code.
That's part of why Louis stands out sharply since while he does villainous things both personally and for an even worse government, he's overall treated pretty sympathetically and the audience is clearly meant to like him, especially by the end. Compare that to _The Maltest Falcon_ or, for instances of subtextual lesbianism, _Rebecca_ (1940) or _The Uninvited_ (1944) where any hint of a character not being hetero is clearly meant to double down them being villainous to how Louis is treated, and it is basically day to their night despite all the bisexual subtext he has.
With the prompt at the end, now I just want a classic film where the girl falls in love with the guy for saving her, but the guy just responds with: actually, I'm into guys
I first realized in my very early twenties how convoluted, complex, confusing the world could be (yeah, yeah, I know), but my big mistake was spending too many decades either denying the way the real world around me was like, holding on stubbornly to an image of the world formed during the decades following the period when the army film was created. Of course, growing up in a rural \ small town environment, where teachers rammed the rigidity of life in communist Russia (well, they were right about Stalin) and preaching (literally) about how America was going to hell (we weren't going to hell, Mrs. Brown; with you as a teacher, we were already there). But, I digress... If only I had accepted the world for its brokeness, and just trod my own path, maybe I would have seen more of the world's beauty and not be quite as cynical.
The classic attack of the 50 foot tall woman, and Them! Could be gayer
5:17 yep! That’s how it SHOULD be done!
Amazing lol
Shop Around the Corner + Bisexual Vadas. Maybe bi Ilona too.
Missing opcd...
I blame religion for Old Hollywood getting triggered by LGBTQIA+ movies.
...and the fact gay content is cringe.
@@JoveJoved you are entitled to your heteronormative opinion...
😢
Meh Disney pretty much makes a non lgbt version of everything they make.
What are you talking about? They've been torpedoing lots of films by shoehorning in that nonsense.
@@JoveJovedthey release alternate cuts in nations that don't bow down to the agenda.
@@JoveJoved The version YOU see.The one that they show in China is completely different.
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@@nevasmile1 I mean I agree but if you don’t like it then why follow them?
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