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  • When you hear about applying for jobs in the NHS, you may invariably hear people talk about FY2 standalone or locum appointment for training (LAT) posts, and it's only natural to wonder if you should apply for such a post.
    So let Dr Ibreez Ajaz, internal medicine trainee, give you the complete picture of what an FY2 standalone or LAT post means in the NHS.
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  • @Nwachinemelu
    @Nwachinemelu Pƙed 2 lety

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  • @abbabbicola2748
    @abbabbicola2748 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Everyone has already said it but I'll say it again, THANK YOU. You explain it way, way better than the million websites and forums I've browsed.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      It's our pleasure 😊

  • @enehesther6597
    @enehesther6597 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Hi, I appreciate you guys..I'm currently in my 5th year at Bulgarian Medical University..and I'm getting more clarifications each time I watch your videos. Thanks alot!

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      You're welcome 😁

  • @tayyaba3915
    @tayyaba3915 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this. I was really worried about this all.

  • @pjct04178
    @pjct04178 Pƙed rokem +3

    I'm just about to start my PLAB journey (soon to be UKMLA journey) and i've been nervous about the stark difference in practice in my home country and in the UK. I've been reading a lot of primers, articles etc but this video is one of the very few that really put me at ease and helped me really understand how I would want to start my career as a doctor in the UK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem

      You're very welcome! Good luck!!

  • @sunniagupta9458
    @sunniagupta9458 Pƙed 4 lety

    Loved the video. Thanks for putting in so much effort

  • @sari6522
    @sari6522 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Very very very informative, we would be lost without you guys. thank you for all the effort and time you have put into it.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

      Our pleasure!

  • @pradyumnaduttpurohit2448
    @pradyumnaduttpurohit2448 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Hi guys! I wanted to know when are you guys planning to do a live session either on Facebook or CZcams!
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    This one really helped!

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Nothing's planned as yet, but if you've got your notifications turned on for us, you should know the moment we go live!

  • @basitmasoodi5360
    @basitmasoodi5360 Pƙed 4 lety +9

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    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

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  • @ammus2834
    @ammus2834 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you for the all the videos about plab and NHSđŸ„°

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      You're welcome 😁

  • @hamitkucuk6377
    @hamitkucuk6377 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you for this awesome, informing and covering video.
    much of love

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      You're welcome 😁

  • @subrasm9187
    @subrasm9187 Pƙed 4 lety

    This is so so informative! Thank you so much!!!!!

  • @benizay16
    @benizay16 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for such a great and clear explanation😊

  • @manbirsingh5139
    @manbirsingh5139 Pƙed 4 lety +12

    This was the much needed video.
    Can you please make a video on various job types like bank doctor, locum doctor, fixed term doctor, etc.
    Thanks

  • @karangugli
    @karangugli Pƙed 2 lety

    Your videos are very helpful. Thanks for your effort.

  • @MeghoRoddur
    @MeghoRoddur Pƙed 4 lety

    Thanks a lot. Great job!

  • @oladipoodeyinka5640
    @oladipoodeyinka5640 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much... it is amazing that you guys provide this information for free ❀

  • @sanghamitrachaudhuri1470
    @sanghamitrachaudhuri1470 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    A great detailed video! đŸ‘đŸŒ I have a few queries on the Non-Training job posts:
    1. what are the likely specialities that one can think of getting into after NT jobs?
    2. being a “non training” job does that mean we are left all on our own to make decisions on patient management? đŸ€”
    3. can we do audits in a NT job to amplify our chances of getting into a particular speciality?
    I hope you can help me with my queries, thank you so much! â˜șïžđŸ‘đŸŒ

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +4

      1) Any specialty you wish so long as you meet the applicant criteria.
      2) No. Non training just means you don't have a portfolio and curriculum to maintain. You won't be abandoned.
      3) Yes.

  • @esraa3127
    @esraa3127 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Thanks a lot for this video.
    Can you please consider making a video about what are the essential clinical skills that one should have before their first job in the UK?
    Thanks again ;))

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Please see: czcams.com/video/W8ofTsHYQ7c/video.html

    • @esraa3127
      @esraa3127 Pƙed 3 lety

      Thanks! đŸ„°

  • @m.k.q9736
    @m.k.q9736 Pƙed 2 lety

    The best plab channel.👍

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Thank you for saying so!

  • @sudheerreddy2367
    @sudheerreddy2367 Pƙed 4 lety

    Very helpful...cleared many doubts...Thank you

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Glad to hear that!

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      @drmed-fizz5344 Pƙed 4 lety

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  • @TheYosolaa
    @TheYosolaa Pƙed 4 lety

    Thanks for this.

  • @despinagiasirani2868
    @despinagiasirani2868 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you so much!!

  • @nivedhapillai1984
    @nivedhapillai1984 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Every single one of your videos just gives me a bit more confidence when I watch them
    Thank you so much!
    I’d just like to know a bit more about the fy2 stand-alone programme.
    When the preferences are put out after the interview , will the rotations only be pertaining to those that are available at the time or will there be rotations available in all disciplines like surgery, medicine, a and e , etc.
    Also is there such a rotation called General Surgery ? Or is there a list of all the disciplines the NHS covers that I find somewhere ?
    My ultimate goal is to get into CST after doing an FY2 standalone , in addition to what you mentioned in this video about choosing OBG, Trauma Orthopedics , etc is there any specific advice you have for the route/ path that I’m planning to take ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      You'd want to look for rotations that are more surgery heavy. Hope this also helps: roadto.uk/vHWG

  • @khaledazab
    @khaledazab Pƙed 4 lety

    Golden advices

  • @sarathomas5479
    @sarathomas5479 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    This was a really enlightening video.
    Thank you so much for your effort.
    Wanted to know, how many standalone FY2 posts are available on average each year and how do the number of vacancies available for that compare with the vacancies for Fy2 level non-training posts each year?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      It's hard to give a fixed number are standalones only become available if there is a gap in the foundation program, but there is always a greater availability of non training jobs to standalones.

  • @yokomodrifter
    @yokomodrifter Pƙed 2 lety

    great piece of advice in a short amount of time!on a side note I really didn't expect you to have an american accent

  • @malikaalibdat7079
    @malikaalibdat7079 Pƙed rokem

    I like before I watch. Always.

  • @sarahmahmoud8846
    @sarahmahmoud8846 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this great video.
    I wanted to know if it is important to sign off the CREST form in my home country before applying for CT1-2/ST1non-training jobs?

  • @thanose9202
    @thanose9202 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Hi, thank you for all this information you put out for everyone!
    I was wondering if its common for a CREST form to be signed in a 6 month period in a non training post, provided you actively pursue it. Or do people commonly take a year or more to get it signed?
    Thank youuu

  • @Salar-ef9ei
    @Salar-ef9ei Pƙed 4 lety

    thank you

  • @MsKamakshi
    @MsKamakshi Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Hi.. thank u for another wonderful video.. hope u guys are doing well.
    I have recently seen an advert in the NHS for fy2 in ophthalmology in OXFORD.. is it the same process or do we need more qualifications for the same? And,
    Can u kindly do a video about the cost of living and expenses as an Img coming for the first job. Would appreciate it. Thanks in advance 😊

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      1) Same process in what sense? You can understand the qualifications they are looking for by reading the person specifications.
      2) Sure!

  • @almostapples8967
    @almostapples8967 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Hi, Ibreez, thanks for an informative session!
    I'm interested in pursuing an Emergency Medicine Non training FY2 post as my first job in the NHS (to get CREST signed and gain subsequent entry into ACCS EM). Do you have any recommendations of supportive hospitals for IMG doctors with only an internship experience? Which hospital did you or people you know, do your first job at? Hoping you are well!

    • @drmed-fizz5344
      @drmed-fizz5344 Pƙed 4 lety

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    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Hello, you're welcome! I think any hospital is supportive so long as you make your intentions known of what you wish to pursue from the start. We started at Scunthorpe General Hospital (in emergency medicine as well!), but now work at Derriford Hospital.

    • @sabrina86414
      @sabrina86414 Pƙed rokem

      Hello , am thinking for the same for Emergency Medicine non training FY2 post ,would you please advice me if you have done the process .am still confused when I have to apply for PLAB 2 ?.thanks

  • @awaisbk
    @awaisbk Pƙed 4 lety

    Great video Ibreez. It has a lot of amazing information. Really appreciate your effort.
    Just need to clear few things:
    1. If I get my CREST form signed after 3 months in a non-training job, can I apply for run through training (or other uncoupled training) programs? Also, if I get selected in the training program, will I need to complete 12 months in the non training job before I could join the training program in the speciality? Or can I just leave the non-training job after 3 months and start my speciality training program instantly?
    2. If I do FY2 standalone, can I only get my competency signed after 12 months only? Can I apply to training programs before 12 months time? Can I join the training before the 12 months time is over in FY2 Standalone?
    I would absolutely admire if you could answer my queries. Thank You.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Thanks for saying that.
      1. Speciality training programs always starts at specific time of the year. More often than not it is always August. If you get into training, you will know it around May-June. So, you have to give your current non-training job a notice that you will be leaving them in August. Nothing is instant.
      2. You can leave the training if you wish but you will not get any certificate without completing 12 months of it successfully.

  • @mhditb7817
    @mhditb7817 Pƙed 3 lety

    Very informative! Thank you..
    P.s. if one applies in January for FY2 when are the interviews etc..?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      Please see: roadto.uk/vHWG

  • @habim9670
    @habim9670 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Hey there. Do you guys have a video for what to do after getting GMC registration/passing PLABs?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Please see: czcams.com/video/SJkSaQ5FApM/video.html and roadtouk.com/blog/what-to-do-after-plab-2/

  • @sanghamitrachaudhuri1470
    @sanghamitrachaudhuri1470 Pƙed 3 lety

    thank you for such great informative videos! I have the following queries and I hope you can help:
    1. what is Horus form? is that similar/same to CREST form? do we need to complete both the forms if we decide to take up a non training job?
    2. is it necessary to have a business visa to apply for PLAB 2 test? can I travel to the UK on a visitor's visa and still apply/sit for the PLAB 2 exam?
    thank you.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      1) Horus is the name of the eportfolio.
      2) Visit visa is acceptable.

  • @ManSand202
    @ManSand202 Pƙed 3 lety

    very good video

  • @shayonghosh3569
    @shayonghosh3569 Pƙed rokem

    Hi Dr. Ibreez
    Great video 🙌
    I wanted to know, when do non training FY2 posts display their vacancies?
    Is there fixed application time, just like FY2 Standalone or is it available all around the year, randomly??

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      It's available all year round.

  • @lakshmipal8440
    @lakshmipal8440 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Thank you for this video!
    I have 4 questions
    1. Apart from the education supervisor/mentor/ progress tracking and the fpcc( which is equivalent to crest) there is no other disadvantage for non training jobs?
    2. You said rank is based on interview and application. What can I add to my application to increase my chances of getting into fy2 standalone?
    3. If I take a non training fy2 equivalent and get a crest certificate should i join a training ct or a non training equivalent?
    4. Will i be able to take mrcp if i do a non training job?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      1) Not as far as we can see.
      2) Please see: roadto.uk/vHWG
      3) It's up to you.
      4) Yes.

  • @thehappiness2741
    @thehappiness2741 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Thank you so much for this valuable video but i have some qusetions
    If i have completed the rotation in my home country (which is equivelent to fy2 in uk) can i be still eligibale for the fy2 standalone?
    And the other question what protfolio criteria that should be met in order to apply for fy2 standalone ? Other that the ALS coures

  • @kennyrogerwilliams7665
    @kennyrogerwilliams7665 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hey! Thank you for the video! Just one question, The ALS requirement before we start, does that have to be from UK? Or can we do that from our home country (AHA)?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      It needs to be under Resus UK

  • @pradzuk8997
    @pradzuk8997 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks a lot for the clarity.
    Also which post would be best for drs with no experience with NHS but would like to take up a job for the first time at non training job.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      Standalone or non training FY2 is ideal.

  • @romo3192
    @romo3192 Pƙed 3 lety

    I really like the way you're open about your life & career. Respect. What I want to know is:
    By the time I successfully complete my medical degree (By God's grace), I have to do the UKMLA. Although I am a British Citizen with an overseas medical certificate, do I still have to do IELTS?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      Yes, currently it is mandatory on basis of country of graduation, rather than nationality/citizenship.

  • @h.f.5912
    @h.f.5912 Pƙed 3 lety

    thank you for the great video!
    my internship at home country ends in mid or end of august, and the FY2 begins in august itself. is there some solution to this or other options i can look into?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      You'd have to wait until the January eligibility.

  • @mummoshable
    @mummoshable Pƙed rokem

    How are you like not very famous! Thank you thank you thank you

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem

      Hahaha you're very welcome 😁

  • @mahmoodelnaiem32
    @mahmoodelnaiem32 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great video!
    My question is if I finish a crest 2020 form but decide I want to apply for specialty training in 2022, can I use the 2020 form or should I sign a CREST form in 2021?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Currently it's been mandated that all forms that are submitted are the CREST 2020 forms and no earlier forms will be entertained. Whether or not they will keep this for the next few years remains to be seen. It's best to keep it signed though just in case it doesn't change.

    • @mahmoodelnaiem32
      @mahmoodelnaiem32 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thanks for the advice!

  • @dr.a.k.y9966
    @dr.a.k.y9966 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank You so much for detailed video.
    I have one question

    1.Internship which we do in our home country is equivalent to FY1 if it meets their criteria?
    2. If it doesn’t meet
. then we have to do FY1 ? If yes then do we have to pay for that?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      1) Yes.
      2) a. Yes.
      b. No.

  • @Ahmad_Almohtaseb
    @Ahmad_Almohtaseb Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you very much!
    Does the Fy2 equivalent-non training job have a person specification to its application?

  • @BelalAlDroubi
    @BelalAlDroubi Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you 😍
    I've browsed NHS jobs and it seems that F2 equivilant jobs require prior experience working in the UK for 3-6 months !
    Can you please exaplin this and how I'm I supposed to get started?
    (These jobs were A&E and intensive care mainly, I want a non training job in pediatrics cuz I hate adults but couldn't find any, that's really odd)
    Thanks

  • @akhilanvijayan
    @akhilanvijayan Pƙed 2 lety

    could u pls make a video about how to make a better CV ...the things which we have to build before starting the jorney...like i would like to persue dermatology.to get into that speeciality what all i can do to make my cv stand out

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      Please see: roadto.uk/wJgX

  • @luqmanbakr5848
    @luqmanbakr5848 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Hello Dr.Ibreez,
    Keep up the good work 👍
    One question:
    I graduated in 2013 and began working as a General Practitioner (GP) in 2016, continuing until October 2022. In October 2022, I transitioned to a psychiatry resident role and successfully passed Paper A of MRCPsych. I have PLAB2 scheduled for November 10, and I plan to take Paper B of MRCPsych after that (assuming I pass PLAB2). Given this background, is there a possibility of obtaining a non-training position in psychiatry without diversifying into other medical areas?

  • @nadeembaig7136
    @nadeembaig7136 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great video,Just wanted to ask..If an IMG was to work through the fy1 and fy2 in a non training position with a provisional gmc registration,would the provisional licensing upgrade to a full license by the end of the two years??

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      You cannot work in a non training job with provisional registration.

    • @nadeembaig7136
      @nadeembaig7136 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thank you for your reply.My situation is that i am an IMG without an internship.I have cleared my plab exams and am hoping to apply for an FY1 LAS program..is that possible?

  • @prarthanachandra6646
    @prarthanachandra6646 Pƙed 3 lety

    nice video! I want to actually start CT in psychiatry and was thinking of applying for WAST but due to covid the applications aren't open. How many months would I need to work as a non training FY2 before i can enter training in psych CT1?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      It is dependent on the length of time it takes for you to get your CREST signed, and how comfortable you feel moving onto a training post.

  • @madinahashmi945
    @madinahashmi945 Pƙed rokem

    Great video!
    I have 400 and above in three subtests of oet but not in the fourth one. What would you advise either to retake oet for 400 in all subtests as I want to join fy2 standalone after plab or a NT fy2 equivalent would be okay?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +1

      If you can manage the OET one more time, go for it, but applying for non training jobs as a backup isn't a bad idea.

  • @ialadygaga
    @ialadygaga Pƙed rokem

    Hi! Firstly I want to thank you for this video. It is really a starkling difference between UK and my country so I've been getting really confused at times about the routes I could take. I have 1 question though: I have a acceptable equivalent to Fy1 from my country. Can I proceed to CT or ST after I apply to non training jobs or do I have to still do a F2 standalone at the end to be able to enter a CT or ST? Thank you so much!

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem +1

      Standalone is not mandatory. The other route is feasible.

  • @ahmadwazir6393
    @ahmadwazir6393 Pƙed rokem +1

    Hi Ibreez
    Really great vedio , U guys are gems 💎
    I have just one question : U said that getting an FY2 standalone job/getting the desired rotations in your FY2 standalone totally depends on your rank* , Well can U plz briefly elaborate that what's gonna make my rank? I mean what's the criteria for making merit rank in FY2 application 🙏 Thanks Again

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem

      As mentioned in the video, your SJT score and interview.

  • @4dgreentea
    @4dgreentea Pƙed rokem

    Thank you for this video. It cleared everything up for me, except one thing. Is the visa application process different between the 2 positions for IMgs? Will it be more difficult to apply for a visa when applying to non-training jobs?

  • @shereensarmilaraj6456
    @shereensarmilaraj6456 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    Hi. Can you explain abit on Drs with MRCP (UK), which level could we apply for in non training?

  • @Chiappi
    @Chiappi Pƙed 4 lety +3

    I have a question. Is it possible to get ST1 posts without CREST? This confuses me quite a bit. Thanks for the video.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      You can get any non training post (FY1/2, CT1/2, ST1/2 etc) without CREST, but to show that you have met the equivalent competencies of your peers when you apply for ST1/CT1 training, you MUST complete a CREST form. Please also see: czcams.com/video/_Ne0akP097k/video.html

    • @drmed-fizz5344
      @drmed-fizz5344 Pƙed 4 lety

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  • @okidokidoc
    @okidokidoc Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Hi doc ibreeza! If i complete my internship year in my home country, can i still apply for an FY1 rather than an FY2? I am not overly confident with my skills so i want to have more exposure with the NHS at the basic level. Or will i be overqualified since i have already done my 1 year internship post graduation?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Hello, you could apply for a non training FY1 post.

    • @okidokidoc
      @okidokidoc Pƙed 3 lety

      @@RoadToUK thank you doc! 💕

  • @RJ-pc6jk
    @RJ-pc6jk Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Thanku for the guidance.
    What are the rotational options for anaesthesia training??

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      You're welcome! As per the curriculum.

  • @ogn8343
    @ogn8343 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    How long does it take to finish all the requirements to get the CREST form signed?
    Then after, applying for IMT for example, what additional things are required to have/fulfill other than CREST form?

  • @VAnt_e
    @VAnt_e Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    I have a question... can we apply for non training CT1 without having crest form? Or do we have to apply for non training trust grade doctor and after getting crest form signed we can apply for CT1? It's a bit confusing.

  • @inquisitivesoul4809
    @inquisitivesoul4809 Pƙed 2 lety

    If I start an internship in July 2022 and finish July 2023. Complete PLAB 1 in Feb 2023 due to no seats available, and then PLAB 2would I be able to apply in 2023 for a non training post starting in August 2023? Would I also have to do the SJT and Clinical assessment (graduated 2019 sept)

  • @xcrunnerterp
    @xcrunnerterp Pƙed 3 lety

    great video! what is the situation judgement test for FY2 standalone?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/

  • @hmmnmnmm
    @hmmnmnmm Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Thank you so much for the video. I have a few questions.
    1) FY2 standalone requires valid IELTS/OET scores within two years separate from the english proficiency requirement for GMC registration. Meanwhile, FY2 equivalent non-training post does not require valid IELTS/OET if I have fulfilled GMC registration. Am I correct?
    2) FY2 standalone eligibility criteria includes Full GMC registration. However, doesnt IMG only get Provisional GMC registration after passing PLABs? Should an IMG apply for Full registration?
    3) Can I later still apply to specialty training post instead of the equivalent non-training post even if I finish FY2 equivalent non-training post (therefore never fulfilled UK Foundation programme)?
    Thank you.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      1) Yes.
      2) No. Your registration being provisional or full is dependent on completion of an acceptable pattern of internship.
      3) Yes, but you'd need to have a completed CREST form.

    • @hmmnmnmm
      @hmmnmnmm Pƙed 3 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thanks a lot!

    • @tayyaba3915
      @tayyaba3915 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@RoadToUK Can a person with provisional GMC registration (no internship done) apply for non training FY1 post??

  • @berserk____1878
    @berserk____1878 Pƙed 3 lety

    I passed my plab part 1 in oct 2020, so is it advisable to apply for a fy2 standalone in January but I also want to do my plab part 2 asap (sometime in March). Not sure what to do and how to juggle all of this lol...

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      If you're interested in applying for a standalone, go for it.

  • @DrVinit99
    @DrVinit99 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Hey doc, Can you please explain what do these ILS & ALS mean on 02:38 for Non-Training Jobs ? And for what these are needed?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Immediate Life Support and Advanced Life Support. You will be apart of acutely deteriorating and cardiac arrest teams, for which these trainings come in handy.

    • @DrVinit99
      @DrVinit99 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thank you!
      Is it for any particular specialty or each and every specialty?

  • @samarshreshtha1305
    @samarshreshtha1305 Pƙed 3 lety

    After graduating from home country and clearing IELTS and PLABs, can we do a Non Training SHO job in UK (in Obstetrics Or any other department) ,instead of FY2, and then apply for Specialty Training in A&E after an year or so?
    Or is there any better alternative for that?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      Yes you don't have to do a standalone. You can choose to do a non training job instead.

  • @gajurrisrikumar48
    @gajurrisrikumar48 Pƙed rokem

    Hi! Is fy2 non training job supervised? Because In order to register for Australian standard pathway, it is compulsory for us to pass plab 1 and 2 and complete 12 months of supervised training job.

  • @cardiolgy4714
    @cardiolgy4714 Pƙed 4 lety

    Hi thankyou for explicit explanation
    I am. old graduate, I am intrested medicine later cardiology in UK do you through plab programe i will able to achieve my goal, I am thinking giving flab then during franing or non training do mrcp ..
    Thanx
    Thanks

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Sounds like you have a plan. Good Luck!

  • @hajrafiaz5036
    @hajrafiaz5036 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Great video..I have a question...is there any fee? If I complete my mbbs with internship here from home country..pass plab and enter in fy2 level ..will there be any fee further or its free??

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Thanks!
      Nope, no fee. In fact, you get paid: czcams.com/video/MT52s6GNNE8/video.html

    • @hajrafiaz5036
      @hajrafiaz5036 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@RoadToUK thankyou so much for responding may Allah bless you💜

  • @nanat9178
    @nanat9178 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    HI Doctor Ibreez, I am in a very big dilemma could you please help ? I booked my PLAB 2 for June 1, 2024. On the F2 Standalone page, on the timeline it's mentioned that "ESSENTIAL" criteria is to be GMC registered by August 2024. However, there's a mention of giving PLAB 2 by MAY 31st ! Should I try to prepone my PLAB 2 exam ? Its all very uncertain...

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

      We'd suggest emailing UKFP to ask if this would be fine.

  • @hananbasheer7720
    @hananbasheer7720 Pƙed rokem

    I have a question regarding the non training job
    is it a must to do 12 months of NT job to apply for ST training or just by getting the crest form i will be ready to apply even if i did not do 12 months after my fy1 ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem

      You need to have 12 months of post internship experience by the time your training job starts

  • @mohamedshousha8318
    @mohamedshousha8318 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    If i am in my internship backhome and the rotations will end in March.. can i apply for fy2 stand alone before finishing my internahip year?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      If you meet the application criteria at that time, then yes.

  • @FarmanAli-xm1wq
    @FarmanAli-xm1wq Pƙed 2 lety

    If someone has mrcs, with GMC Plus paediatric surgery degree from Pakistan, already working as paediatric surgeon, if come to uk, still we need to go for training for frcs???

  • @drpratikgaikwad
    @drpratikgaikwad Pƙed 2 lety

    Hello, Thnxs a lot for informative and really helpful videos, one querry, regarding OET score I have heard 350+/500 is acceptable, but ma'am u told 400+, recently what is right, 400+ is req. Or 350+ will also do!? Plz reply

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      For UKFP and standalone, you need 400. Otherwise, for PLAB and GMC registration, you need a grade B.

    • @drpratikgaikwad
      @drpratikgaikwad Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thnxs for reply, it would be really appreciable if u could clear it a bit more, for non- trainee job & trainee job post non-trainee job, is 350+ (B) adequate or u still need 400!? E.g. I'm coming from India, clear PLAB 2 , get gmc registered, get non-trainee job, then sign-up with CREST , then apply for IMT-1 , Will I require 400+ or this 350+ B Gmc registration is sufficient for me, Thnxs in advance

  • @user-qd5bt7ny2l
    @user-qd5bt7ny2l Pƙed 2 lety

    OET you need to achieve a B minimum which is 350 and above you can check the GMC website which clearly states this

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      For a standalone?

    • @user-qd5bt7ny2l
      @user-qd5bt7ny2l Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RoadToUK img applying for gmc registration require 350 above which is a B and above

  • @abdo6183
    @abdo6183 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Could you please make a video about WAST ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      We've got an article on it!
      roadtouk.com/blog/widening-access-to-specialty-training-wast/

  • @mohanishkumarsingh2769
    @mohanishkumarsingh2769 Pƙed 2 lety

    I have a doubt.
    I have heard that we can continue to work as a non- trainee for as long as we can if we dont want to progress, and settle as it is.
    So, do we have to apply again and again for non-training jobs after our term ends, or is there any other way?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      It's a contract based job. You work for the duration of the contract and extend as needed.

  • @DA-ys3lc
    @DA-ys3lc Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Is there a breakdown of the ranking criteria for FY2 that one can look at?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      What do you mean? Like a grading rubric?

    • @pradyumnaduttpurohit2448
      @pradyumnaduttpurohit2448 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Road to UK is there a division of FY2 level non training jobs too?
      For example, you mentioned, you joined at CT1. I’m under an impression that CT 1 is for those who get into training.
      How can one get a CT1 level non-training post before getting into the training?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      There is a division of non training jobs. It can be FY1 level, ST3 level, CT1 level, etc. There is a more in-depth explanation here: czcams.com/video/SJkSaQ5FApM/video.html

  • @evlynjohnson8570
    @evlynjohnson8570 Pƙed 3 lety

    Hey Doc. Is it possible to apply for both fy2 standalone and non training jobs simultaneously and proceed whichever we get first ?

  • @raeddalii
    @raeddalii Pƙed 3 lety

    If I aspire to get into a competetive specialty, should I worry about RLMT exemption laws changing in the near future? Is that a good enough reason to get into FY2 standalone?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      It shouldn't be the only reason you apply for a standalone.

  • @faizanalvi3932
    @faizanalvi3932 Pƙed rokem

    I dont know if you guys will see this or answer tbis on an old video
    I want to know about non training fy2
    Im assuming you thru multiple rotations in fy2 year my question is
    1. Do you get to choose your rotations and are they decided for the entire fy2 once or you have to apply for new posts in different hospitals to complete your fy2 non training requirements
    2. Is there a form to complete that equates us to a training fy2 (like the one thru ukfpo)

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed rokem +1

      Non training may or may not be rotational. You complete the CREST form.

  • @enehesther6597
    @enehesther6597 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi thanks for this video, I prefer to do FY2 standalone because I will receive my certificate late in January and I dont just want to be waiting at hime..but my question is if I can get a non training job just for six months and the employers would allow me to go after six months of moving to UK from Europe?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      Do you mean break your contract early while doing a standalone?

    • @enehesther6597
      @enehesther6597 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RoadToUK yea, breaking early while doing a training job.

  • @brendsy
    @brendsy Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Hi! Thank you for such wonderful video. May I ask, how is it different to apply for non-training FY2, as compared to non-training CT1?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      No difference in applying. You just need to just check the person specifications.

    • @siddhanthravichandran3245
      @siddhanthravichandran3245 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RoadToUK is it harder to get a job at ct1 level?
      Also what specialty was that job?

  • @tayyaba3915
    @tayyaba3915 Pƙed 3 lety

    Can a person with provisional GMC registration apply for FY1 non training job?
    I got answer through comments. For a non training job permanent registration is compulsory.

  • @dinaalghrbawy6649
    @dinaalghrbawy6649 Pƙed 2 lety

    Can you, please, share with us some tips about how to have dermatology speciality after FY2 ?

  • @nitsbaby21
    @nitsbaby21 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Thank you for an informative session.
    I am an IMG & have few doubts which i would like to ask:
    1. Are FY2 training posts and Standalone FY2 training are the same or two different types of training.
    2. Since after doing a non training job for getting CREST competencies signed, one cannot apply for Standalone FY2., is it advisable to be in a non training FY2 training post for at least a year before i can apply for a speciality training position in specialties such as Paediatrics/Cardiology/Radiology/Dermatology or a period of 6 months of non training post with CREST is also acceptable?
    3. Can i apply for the training positions while i am still part of a non-training post? If yes, how does this work?
    4. Can i switch departments while i am in a non-training post or do i have to reapply every time when i am switching departments?
    5. Is one year of non-training position deemed enough to complete the person specifications for IMG doctors?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety +2

      1. The same.
      2. CREST technically only needs 3 months of work. Whether or not you've completed what the form entails in that amount of time and if the consultant is then satisfied to sign it off, is another thing.
      3. Yes. During the appropriate application period you submit your application.
      4. If you're working under the same employer and your pay is not changing, then you don't have to reapply, but obviously you'll need to go through HR.
      5. It depends on you and the specifications of the post.

    • @nitsbaby21
      @nitsbaby21 Pƙed 4 lety

      Thank you for replying to my queries

  • @chiraagshetty7164
    @chiraagshetty7164 Pƙed 2 lety

    Suppose an IMG wants to get into core surgical training...where is it easier to build your cv,in a training or non training job?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      Ease is based on your own ability and ambition.

  • @rizwanashraf1069
    @rizwanashraf1069 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Hello dr ibreez, thanks for informative video, can u please explain if i have got gmc registration Am i eligible to apply for Fy2 standalone

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

      It's one of the requirements, but you will need to ensure you meet all the criteria to apply.

  • @akashxavier1117
    @akashxavier1117 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    For GMC registration,Do we have to pass both plab 1 n plab2 within 2 years after oet result? I mean whether plab 2 should also be passed within 2 years?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      OET has a 2 year validity. So if you want to get GMC registration with the same OET, you need to complete everything within 2 years.

    • @akashxavier1117
      @akashxavier1117 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK Thank you doctor

  • @lplegend2010chelsea
    @lplegend2010chelsea Pƙed rokem

    If you already have an acceptable 12 month internship from your home country (so you can't apply for FY1), can you still apply for FY-1 level non-training jobs? or you're only able to apply for FY-2 level jobs (whether its standalone or non-training)?

  • @siddhanthrangineni7838
    @siddhanthrangineni7838 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Excuse me I am an IMG and I wanted to look into the possibility for me to start in the UK at a level equal to an intern, basically a position where I can learn things where there are limited clinical expectations from me because I just recently finished my 4th year , how do I go about it ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Do you want to start as an intern in the UK or would you want to complete internship in your home country first?

    • @siddhanthrangineni7838
      @siddhanthrangineni7838 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK I would like to start as an intern in the UK, what would the process involve ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      @@siddhanthrangineni7838 Please see: roadtouk.com/blog/internship-foundation-training-ukfpo-img/

  • @guljannatkhan4898
    @guljannatkhan4898 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I have a score of 370 in one module of OET and 400 in other 3. Can I apply for fy2 stand alone training post.?

  • @FarhanIshrakAhmedUchchash
    @FarhanIshrakAhmedUchchash Pƙed 4 lety +2

    So basically for that .5 in writing (I got 7.0) I have to retake IELTs to get FY2 standalone job...oh my gosh :'( this is unfair... Why the IELTS requirement is higher and OET is same.
    EDIT: Okay, I rewatched the video and now things got clear...the first few mins got me scared as I was frustrated of the thought of retaking IELTS ...I thought to get into IMT, I must need to go through UKFPO programm.
    So basically, what Ibreeez apu has said is its actually better if u go through the CREST pathway provided that you are dedicated.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      It's a conspiracy :P It's okay, non-training jobs will still do the trick :)

    • @FarhanIshrakAhmedUchchash
      @FarhanIshrakAhmedUchchash Pƙed 4 lety

      @@RoadToUK yeah apu....thanks for the clarification comment on facebook too.
      I think a pros and cons video for training vs non training post would be great to the addition (just a random thought!)

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 4 lety

      Really, the only con to a training post is if it's your first job and you may get overwhelmed. And the only con of a non training job is that your progression depends on your proactiveness.

    • @meeradevi2982
      @meeradevi2982 Pƙed 3 lety

      Hi Dr. Farhan, so does it mean it’s better going through the non train pathway using the crest form?

  • @user-wg3mg2sq8b
    @user-wg3mg2sq8b Pƙed 2 lety

    Hello, are IMGs in non-training jobs required to do the SJT exam when applying to core training?

  • @solortolani9575
    @solortolani9575 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi, thank you for all the information! My boyfriend and I are thinking about taking the PLAB 1 exam before January but we are still medical students (our expected graduation date is December 2022). We were wondering if we can sit for PLAB 1 without being graduated.
    Hope you see this

    • @FZ-bk9kh
      @FZ-bk9kh Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Hi, I thought I'd share what I know. You can give the PLAB 1 as long as you have a 'Primary Medical Qualification'. Meaning you need to have passed your final year medical exams.
      Some medical school require you to have done a year in-house as an intern (FY1 equivalent) to officially 'graduate'.
      So essentially you can give your plab 1 before you graduate as long as you're done with your undergraduate exams

    • @solortolani9575
      @solortolani9575 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@FZ-bk9kh Thank you for your answer! This information is very helpful for us.

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Is yours considered a pre-graduate program?

    • @solortolani9575
      @solortolani9575 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@RoadToUK I believe so. Here in Argentina we have 5 years as medical students and a final year of clinical rotations before the university provides us with the degree. Could we still open a gmc account and book for plab 1 next year ?

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 2 lety

      @@solortolani9575 If it is pregraduate, you will need to graduate first.

  • @shahiqmashud777
    @shahiqmashud777 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    thanks mam for the video..but still i have a doubt about, if i do a non training job for 1yr..do i still have ro do fy2 standalone???

    • @RoadToUK
      @RoadToUK  Pƙed 3 lety

      No.

    • @shahiqmashud777
      @shahiqmashud777 Pƙed 3 lety

      thanks mam..but after doing 1year of non training job, can i directly join internal medicine training???