Do You Need Foundation Training | Best First Job for an IMG | UKFP vs FY2 Standalone vs Non Training
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- This is a topic that will answer all questions related to what job you should pursue post GMC registration, taking into consideration everything an international medical graduate (IMG) would want to know.
Dr. Ibreez discusses the UK Foundation Program (UKFP), explains about what FY2 standalone or LAT posts entail, and how they compare against non training jobs in the NHS. She also explains the types of GMC registration you need to apply for these programs, as well as what you will obtain upon completion.
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You people are doing a great service to those who want to pursue a career as a doc in UK. Well done
You're too kind!
Immense gratitude to you, Ibreez and Ibrahim! So many things cleared up in my mind with this video!
Our pleasure!
Thank you very much Dr. Ibreez ! My dream is to get a training position in Paediatric Surgery, but I’d like to ask you please what kind of non-training job can I apply for to get my CREST? How competitive is it to secure such a job which mainly allows for rotating in Surgery? I’m a final-year student and will be starting my internship at my home country this July
A very helpful video.Thanks!!
Glad to hear that!
extremely helpful !!! many thanks
You're welcome!
please make a video on how i should apply for a visa if i am going for ukfyp
Great video, Could please tell if F2 Stand-alone provides relocation package for the successful candidate?
Please help, is it allowed for IMGs to spend part of their 12-months internship in the UK ?
My medical school permits spending up to 4 months in an outside rotation anywhere abroad, with the remaining months at my home country
Hi. How does one transition from non-training FY2 to training for a specialty? Will there be a conflict when one starts their non-training job? Like, if for example if I start a non-training job Feb 2023 and want to train in 2024. How will I transition when the non training job ends after Feb 2024?
Very much helpful .... thank you soo much 🙏🏻
Glad it was helpful!
How will a med school graduate who completed acceptable internship equivalent to fy1 will bring references details for FY2 STANDALONE
Can a international student do this training program?? I'm an molecular microbiology student what internship I can in NHS ?
As an international student can i do an internship before graduating med school in uk ?And will it be counted as my fy1 year internship?
Thank you for sharing this information 😊, I will complete my intership in my country, and pass the plab 1 and plab 2, i hear doctors talking about that joining a foundation program increase the approtointy to be accepted in the training progams, Is that true? , if I start in the UK as non tranning as CT1 ,and sign the CREST form from my clinical supervisor in the UK not from my country, the benefit to starting trainning program will increase?
Thank you Ibreez, If one was still not sure of what he wants to specialise in even after the first year of internship at home.. would an FY2 rotation through surgery and medicine in UK help clear things up? And such a rotation Available ?
Yes, it wouldn't be a bad option. You can look at FY2 standalones. roadto.uk/vHWG
Hey ibreez! Please make a video on doing plab along with your spouse working together or in different fields in different hospitals will effect their lives or not.
Hi, how do you mean? You can apply for training or jobs in the same hospital so that you work together.
Im an IMG graduate and I am currently pursuing radiology for 6 months i know that I should bot exceed 18 months training in radiology in my home country or else I would not be able to apply for ST1 training but I wanted to ask if I have not exceeded the 18 months and I do my PLAB exams is there a chance i would be able to have full gmc registration and start FY2?
Well explained
Thanks for saying so 😊
So, I just find out that after 2024 there will be a new exam for IMGs to present, and its called the MLA "The Medical Licensing Assessment". Could you give us some information about that? thank you Dr Ibreez A! love you
Please see: roadto.uk/m6rZ
Thank you doctor❤❤
You're welcome 😁
Hi Dr. Ibreez! First of all thankyou for all this information... at @3:50 you mention something about internship in the UK, so I want to apply for the FY1and with this I can choose a non training job (since it’s available all year round) as long as I get a senior Doctor in the Uk to sign my crest form then I can move to fy2?
You can directly start with FY2/CT1 if you wish so long as you have full GMC registration. Please also see: czcams.com/video/SJkSaQ5FApM/video.html
Please explain how to get into improving surgical training after fy2 stand alone or non training
Please see: czcams.com/video/SXA5u-Tm60w/video.html
Hi Dr. Ibreez, thank you for that video. It was really helpful. I'm a doctor from India aspiring to work in the UK under the NHS. My goal is to be an Internal Medicine Trainee as well. I wanted to know, when we do apply for FY2 jobs and once we're selected, do they give us an orientation on what our duties are for that level and also, do we report to the clinical supervisor for our academic/training related queries and progress?
Hi, you can apply year round if they are non training jobs. Yes, you will have an induction. You will have clinical and educational supervisors. Please also see: czcams.com/video/o_m21_37o1U/video.html
Does mrcs or any other exam give you full gmc registration?
Could you please tell me how you started off in a non training ct 1 post and not a non training fy2 post. Also, did you not need competencies or portfolio for getting into CT ? I'm a little confused. Please let me know or direct me to a video which entails those details maybe? Thank you!
We will make a video covering it!
What is your major reference book for Internal medicine? Do you also use harrison’s? Thank you
Local and national guidelines as a first step.
Hello doc. Can you clear the part where you mentioned that you did you started as as non trainee in CT1 and then you signed a crest form after 3months, then got into speciality training? Pls Correct me if I'm wrong
Yes that's right. Please also see: czcams.com/video/o_m21_37o1U/video.html
I completed my MBBS degree in Ukraine.. I don't have Internship, my Question is I'm i Eligible to write Plab Exam.... After plab Exam can I do Internship in U.K....
Thank you so much for the informative video. Please could you advise regarding my situation. I had studied in china and completed my degree. I’m considering the FY1 route. I don’t have internship yet. Will there be any hurdles I can face? 😊
You can't apply for UKFP if you've done an acceptable pattern of internship.
Hi I have a question, did you need to have the Situational Judgement Test done before applying for the programe ?
Yes. Please also see: czcams.com/video/s6ypty-gw_s/video.html
Hello 👋🏻 i’ve got a question. Here in Paraguay we have in our last year an intership but it takes us exactly 11 months, does it count as an intership? Will i need to take the whole FP route or can i get a full GMC registration?
Please see: czcams.com/video/DqbNSN6SrVc/video.html
Can we directly join CT1 non training once we get gmc registration? Or we have to progress by joining fy2 non training in the beginning?
You can join it directly. You don't need FY2.
For which posts can we apply after passing plab-2 exams and get are crest form signed?.. and how to apply for it?.. also i have a break in my c.v so what can i do before plab-2 exams to compensate for it?..
Please see: czcams.com/video/jcRmofeU17E/video.html & czcams.com/video/SJkSaQ5FApM/video.html
Hello Dr Ibreez. Very imformative video.
I hope you could kindly can assist me.
I am am an F2 doctor working in the UK. I am from Malaysia. My contract expires on Aug 6th 2024. I recently got an offer as a clinical assistant at another nhs trust starting in Sept 7th 2024. My visa expires on Aug 15.
So there is a 3 week gap between the expiry and the new start date.
Will Homeoffice issue me with a visa with a start date from the date of expiry Aug 15th? Or will i have to go back to my home country to reapply for a new visa.
Also if i were to apply for a new visa in the UK, do i have to travel to the vfs office in the London, UK to submit my biometric data?
Thank you very much in advance for your assistance.
Is the foundation program done after or before plab isa and thanks
After.
Hey dr ibrees , thankyou for such a detailed video. I am from pakistan and I wanted to ask can i get my crest form sign from any consultant i worked with in pakistan? Or is this has to be a uk based consultant?
It be signed in your country. Please also see: czcams.com/video/eEn_9FiyNzk/video.html
Hey there, If someone want to score a trainee job directly and has done internship or housejob for one year back in Pakistan, which route he may choose?
Applying for training jobs.
can I redo my internship in UK? I have done my internship before my graduation, I really want to take my time to understand the system there.
If you have completed an acceptable pattern of internship outside the UK, you would not be eligible for internship in the UK. You can, however, consider an FY2 standalone.
Hello there do you I need to write plab before I can do FY1?
Please see: czcams.com/video/9JcoWNkJCrM/video.html
What if my intership in my country was 10 month? What should i do?
Please see: czcams.com/video/DqbNSN6SrVc/video.html
Salaam Dr Ibreez, I have not been vaccinated for Tuberculosis. Could this be an obstacle to my road to UK? If so, what must I do?
Walaikum assalaam. Vaccination against TB is not mandatory. You may or may not have to undergo testing to determine if you have TB.
@@RoadToUK jazakallahu khayiran
Is it hard to join with fy1 if I pass plab ?
In Russia we study medicine 6 years , is last year count as internship or no ?
Yeah please answer this question.
Please reply this comment
No. All restrictions related to IMGs not being able to get into UKFP have been removed. Please also see: roadto.uk/6MBs
@@RoadToUK thank you!
Then what’s the SFP program? And is it different from FY2?
It's just a type of foundation program. Please see: foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/programmes/2-year-foundation-programme/specialised-foundation-programme/
Do you mean that if my internship of India if meets the standard of UK i can apply for GMC registration UK?
Please see: czcams.com/video/z4UghNcKl4U/video.html
How difficult is it to get an FY2 non training job in the NHS. I mean on average how long does one wait before getting a job?
2-4 months.
Hello Maam.
I'm a final year MBBS student from India, how can I enter in post-graduation UK in preclinical subject like pharmacology Or microbiology .
Please can you help me..?
roadtouk.com/training-in-uk/training-in-various-specialties/pathology-training-pathway-for-img-uk/
If you already have an acceptable 12 month internship from your home country (so you can't apply for FY1), can you still apply for FY-1 level non-training jobs? or you're only able to apply for FY-2 level jobs (whether its standalone or non-training)?
Yes you can.
So Mam,my doubt is that your CT1 job was only for three months??and then u did CT 2?
As a non trainee? No, it was for one year. Then we applied for a training grade CT1, which rotated to CT2.
Hii doctor, first of all you guys are doing a great job. i have a question if i clear all my PLAB exams after my graduation that is without internship should I directly apply for training FY1 job or should I go for a non training jobs. plz clear my confusion.
You will need to the UKFP.
Is that one year time (for going to fy1 ) enough to clear plab 1&2 and sjt ?
If you can line up exams and clear them in one go, yes. It has been done.
@@RoadToUK and if in case we r unable to book and clear exam in that time line
Then again we have to wait fr 1 year to enter ???
@@RoadToUK and if in case we r unable to book and clear exam in that time line
Then again we have to wait fr 1 year to renter ???
is it difficult to get fy1 job in uk
No.
I want to participate essay comeption , how can i do that ? What is the procedure?
Which essay competition?
@@RoadToUKi am doing my mbbs from bangladesh currently i build up my portofilo for core surgical training.there is a separate section for prizes, i heard a lot about essay competion ,so which essay compition can i particiapte to gain marks in portfoilo sections
Do we get paid as an IMG in FY1/FY2?
Yes. Please also see: czcams.com/video/DEPSnZ7nCcY/video.html
Thank you for this video! I've actually applied for UKFP and got into North Wales for FY1. I'm grateful for landing the opportunity but also disappointed since I was aiming for South Wales, especially Cardiff. The North is lovely but rural and isloated, with some limitations in terms of career development or so I was told. As Wales practices unpaired Foundation jobs, could you advise on how can I increase my chances to secure an F2 job in Cardiff once I complete my F1? I'm not sure how it works or how to prepare for it :(
You can look for an FY2 standalone. roadto.uk/4GwD
FY2 is the same of FY2- Standalone?
Please see: czcams.com/video/C_QJqy9VsZ4/video.html
Hello dr.
Do we need to complete post- graduation internship in order to get enrolled in fy2 directly as IMG ? Or pre graduation internship from respective college is acceptable in uk to get into fy2 directly?
And can u plz clarify about MRCS , Is it mandatory to pass mrcs before going in run through program for surgery ? Or we can directly get into run through program after fy2 ?
Please see: czcams.com/video/C_QJqy9VsZ4/video.html & czcams.com/video/SXA5u-Tm60w/video.html
Can one get any job in the UK without the internship?
As a doctor? No.
@@RoadToUK How about any other job other than as a doctor? Thanks for the response.
In EU where the medical degree is 6 years, does the 6th year count as an internship or it must be done after the uni?
the 6th year is counted as an internship year. so you would be given full registration back in the uk by the gmc
@@Khalil.Ibrahim thank you very much!
@@Khalil.Ibrahim bro you sure about that??
@@jahangirkhan8489 yes because I am from the UK but study in Bulgaria which is in Europe. And for the 6th year, we have to do an internship year. Most MD schools in Europe have this.
@@Khalil.Ibrahim bro i think its not the case because in all europe countires the duration of Medical degree is 6 year while in UK mbbs is 5 year i think.
But 6 year M.D doea not have internship i think?
Hello, I am graduating from Poland(EU) this year (2022) and I would like to apply to FY1(2023) , so I will have a gap of one year between graduating and starting FY1. Will the UKFPO ask me what have I done during this 1 year gap or that applies only to 2 year+ gaps ?
Also, if I did one year of internship (outside of EU) , will I still be eligible for FY1 or taking a gap year would be a safer option? (given that I want FY1 and not FY2)
Did you find any answers?
@@theorangecandle Yes infact! when you fill in the application for UKFP, gmc only want to know if you would be working or be engaging in activities that would make you eligible for a full registration with the GMC, it is not to scrutinize you in any way. So you could either write , no plans , study leave , volunteering , clincial observation...etc etc and if you were to do an internship just make sure it does NOT fulfill the GMC criteria in order to be eligible for UKFP since you do not want to be overqualified. Hope that helps :)
Isnt UKFPO tough and impossible for imgs?
Not any more. All restrictions have been lifted.
@@RoadToUK oh wow
@@RoadToUK but ukfpo is only after plab2 right?
Not a ramble!
:)