Super Cub VS Grom - World's Most Popular Bike - Cycle Report | Everyday Driver
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- The Honda Super Cub and Grom are the most requested bikes on the Cycle Report. Join our rider-in-residence, Nate, as he dives into the history, the riding, and the market for these wildly different executions of the mini-bike.
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60 mph, 125 mpg, I have 3,000 on my 2019 super cub. It’s a great bike.
hey, im from colombia. i have a supercub model 1995. have 39.000 kms and still rides like in the first day. i love that czcams.com/video/EDoPZvmlFss/video.html
Still have it?
@@yamkaw346 yes! Thinking about a bigger bike around 650cc
@@roylappin4491 How many miles you got on it now, thinking about picking one up as a 3rd bike
@@yamkaw346 do it! It’s my Sunday morning rider. Absolutely no issues, 125 mpg, 60 mph, fuel injected. Honda has a gray one that looks good.
I first rode a Cub back in the sixties, loved it then riding in the summer. I'm too old and infirm now, but if I could still ride I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat, regardless of any other bikes I'd own.
I got my C125 in 2019 after watching Leno putt around on one. Immediately searched SLC dealers & all had 50% deposit 3yr wait. I typed pre-order into my phone and Monarch Honda in Orem popped up. I called them and they had 2 on the floor. I had the bike late afternoon. I have ridden motorcycles for years and have to say the Super Cub is my all time favorite. To Hell with sport bikes!
The Cub is a well behaved go anywhere transport. Mine is setup with side stand, luggage rack and Kijima saddlebag frames. Chase Harper saddlebags complete the package. I get 155mpg with 3700mi on it. Biggest service item is the chain. I bought a sprocket alignment tool which sets the rear wheel in perfect alignment. It was great riding before but even better with precise alignment.
Cool! How hard is it to access the chain through that cover??? I was intrigued with that when I borrowed this one to film it.
Anyway, glad you like yours! Thanks for watching!
- Nate
The chain cover is easily removed with 4 screws and a 5mm allen key. Only the top need be removed for alignment but I take them both off for lubrication and inspection.
where in SLC are you located? let's go for a ride on the cubs :)
I love that Honda builds both these bikes. Thanks for the great review
Thank you and thanks for watching! - Nate
Thanks for a genuinely excellent review, and comparison!
I've got to chime in, that I did actually cross shop the Grom and Super Cub. (Couldn't find a way to carry a passenger on the Monkey, so I didn't consider that one.) The Cub's full stainless exhaust, and enclosed chain ultimately won the day, but I think I would have been pleased with either.
Cheers.
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching! Interesting on your cross shopping story, im surprised and better informed!
- Nate
I'm waiting on the equally retro, CT125/ Trail 125, coming to USA, in November, 2020, from Honda!! Yes I want one.
Yes! I was excited to see that one announced recently as well. Assuming it is basically a supercub in a new suit, it'll be a cool little bike as well.
Thanks for watching!
- Nate
I've a Kawasaki "Ninja 400 ABS KRT" for "smiles/highway mile", and a Taiwanese-made (not ChinaCrap) Genuine "Buddy 50" scooter, for "quick trips to local stores for a small amount of shopping", which is a hoot to ride, and then there's my 77th birthday present to myself - a Honda Grom - which gives me" giggles galore on local roads". Truly a blast to enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nimble/agile like my Ninja!!!!!
As others have said, when the Cub came out, scooters had manual transmissions. Hand shift, hand clutch. Honda moved those from the hand to the foot.
Also, the Cub has sold more units than all other motor vehicles, not just motorcycles.
I agree that both are fun! As a rider of 42 years with more having had more models of bikes than I can remember, I prefer my Super Cub over a Grom. Why? because I have a couple of motorcycles already. I don't need a mini motorcycle. The Super Cub is great for running errands around town when I don't feel like messing with the two larger bikes. I will say that it takes awhile to get used to that shifter on the Cub. You better be at a very low speed when you downshift, or you will squeal that back tire good (don't ask me how I know)! I think the Super Cub will still have a learning curve from anyone that is totally new to motorcycling, because you still need to get used to shifting. You still need to roll off and on the throttle as you do it. Also, if you are long time biker, the shift pattern is different than a regular motorcycle, so it takes some getting used to that, too! I find it fun and challenging to plan a longer trip on a Super Cub. You learn to travel lighter, and with a top speed around 60 (at my size/weight), you cannot do the highways so you get to see more of smaller towns and roads. Grom or Super Cub you cannot go wrong...and do not forget the Monkey, that is a hoot, too! In fact, I love the styling of that more than the Grom. Thanks for a great video!
Thanks for watching! I did have the rear wheel hop as I downshifted the first few times. My cameraman actually figured the foot clutch out (he had an old Honda that operated similarly) and that helped. As long as you're slow with the foot release it works just fine downshifting at any speed. Made riding it far better once we sorted that out!
-Nate
I'm late to the party but I've spent years operating these centrifugal clutches. Rev match (blip the throttle on downshifts) and it's a non-issue.
Cool review, I think you're a bit hard on the Cub, to say it isn't fun... No way that bike isn't fun.
Good day to you.
I am a Honda Cross Cub Grandpa from Japan.
It is a nice C125 video!!
Thank you so much for sharing.
Have a nice day!!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! - Nate
I love that intro!
You can't say "100M units" w/o putting your pinky up to the corner of your mouth.
Love the Grom (because of 28" inseam 😐). Love the BMW GS650F-low seat too. Sadly my life has grown out of both of these. I've have 30 miles to my work and can take back roads w/55mph limits, but the ppl here in SW OH don't give motorcycles the respect/space they need. Everyone in OH thinks they are nascar drivers in a nascar race and tailgate everywhere because your 5-15 over isn't fast enough.
I hear ya. I live in Chicago suburbs and the traffic flow is absurd most of the time. These little bikes are a tad dicey when their max speed with a tail wind barely matches the posted speed limit and everyone else is clearing that by 15-20!
Thanks for watching!
- Nate
P.S. nice BRZ!
The Cub and similar motorcycles, also 2 stroke helped so many people, I think it is just as meaningfull als telephone or internet.
I prefer the style of the Super Cub to the Grom, but that’s just my opinion. I’ve always been more drawn to classic looking vehicles and the Cub looks like something straight out of the 1950s.
VERY-GOOD !
Both are great options in the city. I really want to try a Grom!
Do it! I absolutely love my Grom. My big bike sat in the garage all of this year because I was having too much fun on the Grom.
Almost any scooter is still better the Italians were on top of it after ww2 Vespa is king but a Taiwanese genuine buddy 170i does the trick and a hooligan170i has at tires and 2 disc brakes
I'm saving up to buy on of these modern classics, either the meteor 350 of the supercub 125. To supplement my touring bike and sports bike.
Loved the video. How do you keep your glasses and visor from fogging when stoped.
Thank you! Well, the fogging can be a problem, but this particular helmet (scorpion at950 i think) does a good job of ventilation and doesn't fog too badly. If I'm really hot my glasses get fogged first.
Thanks for watching,
Nate
Super Cub. Southeast Asia's main source of transportation for over 60 years!
When it started years ago with I think a 50cc engine it had a double seat, as did the 75cc and the 90cc, so why now that it's a huge 125cc has it gone to a single seat, it spoils the look...
This Super Cub owner would love to have a Grom or it's sibling, the Monkey. Now that I have a CT125, I may sell the C125 after this season and try to find a yellow Monkey to screw around on. I like the classic look more than the Grom but may settle for one if I have to. I miss having a manual clutch
I bought my first one in 1961, when I lived in Japan. But, it was not “long before they started making cars”. It was, though, a few years before they started selling cars in the U.S. Their cars at that time were chain drive, and illegal on American roads.
The Honda 50cc (go ju, Japanese for 50) was a simple, rock solid bike. My new 2021 is a much more complicated assembly. The smart key and its convoluted functions have a twisted solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Yeah, ad-libbing while riding is tricky. I think what I meant to convey is Honda brought their bikes to the U.S. well before they imported cars. I think many people who don't know bikes assume Honda began with cars and bikes were more of a secondary endeavor.
Thanks for watching, and it is SO cool you had an early one in Japan.
- Nate
Just put down my deposit for it as my first bike!
Bloopers!!!! Also yes I am laughing. Plus, how much water did u drink when shearing that's leather jacket? It must have been killer!!!
It was 90 out that day. I suffer for the entertainment of our audience hahaha
13:48 finally a vehicle yall can take to its absolute top speed limits on us roads (on video) lmao
Took a WHILE getting there too! Thanks for watching!
- nate
@@theCycleReport hahaha - thx 4 making+sharing !
4:44 thats so cool
(foot-operated clutch)
The Super Cub really needs to have adjustable seats. I could really benefit from having a 31.5” seat height. Otherwise, it’s a good little bike. In the future, maybe Honda could make a 250 Super Cub and Trail 250.
It would have been nice if you added a vespa lx 150 into that mix as I really want an expert opinion on a compact and fun commuter that can filter thru the worst bumper to bumper traffic in an over crowded city, like NY. A lot of us in Asia, look for that mix of a fun, nimble commuter and mini bikes haven't really gotten any traction here unlike in the US or Europe. I hope you can make one.
Its a good idea! This comparison actually started purely as a Grom review, but when I picked up the Grom from the owner I contacted, I saw the SuperCub in the garage next to it. My brain started spinning and the opportunity to do a head to head with these similar yet opposite stablemates changed my plan at the last second.
A scooter in a city would be really cool. I live near Chicago, I could totally make that happen in the future! Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
@@theCycleReport that would be awesome! I look forward to it. The small Vespa S125 would be perfect as I just remembered it is a closer match and let us know which is perfect for extreme heavy snail traffic and which one is best for a beginner and which one is actually more fun to ride.......and hopefully you decide to do the review vs a Benelli TNT135 if you can find one. Thanks 👍
@@richcruz936 ill do my best to try to do something like this next year!
A 200cc in one of these would be great.
Agreed. I own a CRF250L with essentially the next bigger engine honda makes for their street machines and that engine would be awesome in a grom.
Thanks for watching!
-Nate
TW200
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Original European scooters had a manual transmission and a clutch built in to the left hand handlebar, twist and go came much later
i'm looking at the trail 125 right now i have a friend she has the super cub and her 275 pound husband has the monkey. i love my harleys but i also love my scooters. my first was a jonway 250 that would hit 70 mph but it would take a mile to do it. and it was CHEAP built. i used solar panels to keep the battery charge witch was great during the day and when i parked i left it out in the sun a hour or so. then i found a 2009 honda silverwing. i said its a good price and it should run 75 mph. boy was i off a few mph. it would run at least138 mph. because it was turbo charged. heck i thought they all came that way. but now i have a 2012 honda silverwing it wont run but 114.7 and the computer shuts it off. but i love it. but now i'm looking for something fun to ride around here but yet if we want to we can cruise anywhere. i also have my first bike i every owned a 1973 honda CB 350 i also have a 1961 honda 305 auto. its not running and not sure it ever will. i think its just to far gone.
I'm a huge Honda fan and have loved all my Honda's, but you said Honda reliability is second to none. Sadly Yamaha still takes the prize for the overall most reliable motorcycle brand and Honda comes in at #2. This is just a little, probably insignificant fact that has held for a while now. I've owned some 25-30 motorcycles and scooters and both my Yamaha's and Honda's have been pretty bullet-proof. Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching! Yeah, I've heard that statistic before as well - I said it more as a figure of speech I guess. More the point being that Hondas are generally trouble free and less a statement about them vs other brands. I've had both brands as well and they do seem to be more reliable than the rest!
They are small motorcycle but reliable and very economy, i like them
I have friends that will constantly take groms on off-road trails because why not
CZcams friends.......
How’s the Grom perform with the Cub’s wheels?
Review the Honda Navi!
If I can get my hands on one I will!
Quite honestly, I prefer the Monkey over both of them, especially with some dual sport tires so mild off roading is doable.
I don't disagree - I also really like the trail 125 - which is kind of a barely-off-road version of the super cub.
-Nate
Best selling bike because of Asia.
Put a yoshimura pipe on the cub and it wakes up.
Is it legal in the freeway
I believe so, it clears most minimum posted limits.
I wouldnt want to do it for very long or often though. Its not very fun.
Thanks for watching!
-Nate
Not in the U.S. You need minimum 150cc.
He looks more normal on the Grom than the Cub
Uh - no, can't agree with that one. But everyone looks gigantic Gromming it.
To be honest, it is overpriced, in my country it will cost around $2k top. But I guess different market, different prices.
The Honda Cub was not designed with the Europen markets in mind, but the Asian!
The Super cub is way too underpowered.
What is your height? your highness?
6'2"
shit your in Chicago?
I'm by O'hare
Yes! I live in the western suburbs- most of this was shot around west Chicago-naperville-wheaton area!
The clutch came from jawa...europe...honda bought a licence....
The Grom being recommended as a "beginner" bike is kinda like a snub nosed .38 revolver being recommended as "beginner" handgun. NO and dare I say NO! Ironically I recommend something BIGGER to start. A 4 inch barrel revolver for the gun, And something like the "Cub" or even a Rebel 250 for a "Newbie" bike.
That's more or less what I say in the video about the grom. If you watch the whole thing this is talked about around 11:15.
thanks for watching
-Nate
Completely fair? You have a Grom that is so suped up, it costs more than an expensive sport bike. How about comparing a stock Grom to a, lets say, suped up Hunter Cub?
Thanks for watching!
I didn't have access to a stock one, but I dont rally think it would matter. They're wildly different experiences regardless of mods as I mentioned.
I only compared them to see how different they could be with the same engine/price/etc and stock or modified they really appeal to two different buyers.
Check out this 150cc Hunter Cub. I think the Grom is a young man's city mini-bike. The Hunter Cub is an old man's mini-dirt bike.
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@@leelove5089 thats pretty neat. Would be a fun little play bike.
I hope you've removed that headlight on the Grom. Hands down the worst headlight. I'd go as far to say it's dangerous to ride with it at night.
That grom wasn't a road-bike - meant for track use only. Thanks for watching!
-Nate