Why ETERNALS Should have Been a DISNEY+ Show - Marvel Explained
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Gross.
What is the name of the movie in this intro of this video?
You low life's I found out on my own it's from the movie ......... With one of the olsens
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@joshuamunn2410 Super gross.
Its amazing how they made shows that should have been movies, and movies that shoulda been shows 😂
I do feel like it was still a good idea for them to make WandaVision and Loki into TV shows, though I do agree shows like Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Echo, Secret Invasion should've been movies, and movies like Eternals should've been TV shows
only way to explain all of loki was a show. movie wouldn't have worked for loki
@@milkiassamuel780 yall would cry still about something
@@milkiassamuel780echo lol. Echo should never have been anything but a 5 min cameo in Hawkeye .
This should be a plot line. mojo the multiversal villain fucking with reality.
honestly, with so many characters this really should have been a TV show so that I can get in my feels for a week on these characters
I don’t think Disney in this current time could do such things with so many characters. Maybe if they actually let creatives fully draw out and write what they want to…yeah but right now that will not happen
I can give a list of marvel shows (from D+) and reasons as to why this is true, they couldn’t even handle echo, moon knight, Hawkeye and falcon/Bucky in their own Series they just all felt bland and primarily unforgettable. Don’t even get me started on the 200 million dollar secret invasion show.. you really think they could have done enterbals. Maybe 8 yes ago or 8 years later but not in this current time.
They didn’t even have show runners for their first 5 shows, only Loki had one and that was the only good thought out show.
I agree on the whole “Eternals should’ve been a Disney+ Show” argument. As….I grew quite attached to the each character within the movie, but I do wish we can expand on their lore more.
For it to work, It would need to fit in 6 episodes apparently, because they love long episodes that feel like a movie. With time and care (Which both Marvel and Disney don’t have at the moment), They could make it 8 episodes….or more.
With so many characters, making a show seems to make more sense.
It's almost as if comics are designed to be episodic.
Or, separate movies for each character in the lead up to an ensemble film. Like, you know, the Avengers.
@@luurchifyI don’t think the characters are interesting enough to carry their own show or movies, they only work together.
Why do people keep referring to the Celestial in the ocean as a plot hole? What are the circumstances in the subsequent movies where it would have been discussed? Just because there is no mention of it doesn’t make it a plot hole. Volcanoes erupting and tornadoes flattening cities are major events, but how often do you see people talking about them in daily life?
This is VERY TRUE
Finally, someone saying something reasonable and not just slamming the movie.
Feige should work with Chow to cut the film into a Disney + series and they could steer into a second season. Flashbacks could be handled like LOST. They could add additional scenes to flesh out relationships or focus on individuals characters. The one season could lead to a second season and continue resolve the cliffhangers left at the end of the movie.
I really like the Eternals movie and the story of them and the Celestials. I was really hoping for a 2nd eternals movie
i enjoyed Eternals until all the plot holes were pointed out. Then it started hurting.
I second this. I loved the movie and was hoping for a second film. I don’t like how everyone wants the movies to just tell you everything that’s happening. Most things in movies you can see wats going just by looking at hints and wats implied. The movie doesn’t have to say their in love when it’s literally just showing u these characters falling for each other…. Like cmon 😅
What did you think of the Eternals?
Masterpiece
Farts thats what I think about them
Eternals is a top 10 MCU movie for me. I think it's completely misunderstood.
It’s good just lacks a villian tbh
It's one of my favorites
it’s funny cuz i just watched this movie again sunday for the 5th or 6th time and i still think it’s one of marvels best. idk why so many people hate it but im sad there will be no sequel.
@@T215man79 why not?
@rob... Cause I'm a man and I'll pay to see men doing super hero things.. not gay things.. and Disney is hypocrites. They cut out scenes for China but leave scenes in the American version.
Can anybody tell me what movie was that intro from in this video?
@@T215man79 I'm a man and I pay to see superheroes and good stories. And yes, Disney are hypocrites, they should leave the gay stuff in the China edit too. Enjoy your movies of mostly men in tight leather costumes :)
You low life's I found out on my own it's from the movie ......... With one of the olsens
I still loved these characters and i really want to see more of them 😢
Completely agree, and have been saying this for a while now. They’d also have to make the Deviants more intimidating and real looking. Less like insubstantial CGI creations.
Youre right enternal series would have made this so much more interesting the twist about the celestial would be the season one finale , ikaris's betrayal would be the season 2 finale ,and the emergence would be the season 3 finale we would have gotten flashback episodes , fleshed out everyones relationship drama between couples in different moments in history. I could easily see this as high budgets disney + series or even a campy , low budget cw series it has so much potential but was wasted.
I think that you are describing the typical story of superhero origins...and like you pointed, this storytelling was used in Heroes and many other series/movies. I loved Eternals precisely because it's different. I think the performances were great, the emotional depth, the photography, action sequences, everything was amazing to me. There could've been things better of course but overall I think it is a great movie just as it is.
yep - i really like the movie, but yes of course there's things that could've been better but that's the same with any movie. I really wanted a second movie to come out of this, I just hope they don't forget about the Eternals since there's so much of the cosmic side of the MCU that should be explored here, not to mention rescuing the Eternals that were taken by Arishem for Judgement - they can't forget about characters that basically saved the Earth from total and utter destruction!
100% should have been a Disney+ series.
I highly disagree with this take, I feel that even with more characters as such as in the eternals, the tv side of Disney (Disney +) wouldn’t know how to handle them in their usual 6-8 episode release style. I mean they didn’t even have show runners for their first 5 shows which was a mistake and a obvious one at that everyone saw. They made moon knight, echo, falcon A.T.W.S, and Hawkeye all feel cheap and rushed in story telling, writing and direction! The performances were alright and rightfully so with such high acclaimed actors. Don’t even get me started with SECRET INVASUON, however with that being said, Im going to have have to do hard pass on this one …unless it was made by HBO or Amazon but that’s not their property BUT they sure as hell would make something more interesting/Gorier/ than Disney…. Screw crush needs better writers!
It would have been a mess like secret invasion my friend. Not everything needs to converted into a show now, especially a D+ show at that.
Very true. You are correct! Developing ten lead characters in feature length is tough, and then personality for the Deviants is really non-existent in the movie.
people have been thinking ever since it came out that eternals shouldve been a tv show rather than a movie. glad ur finally making a video on why. it only took you 3 years to make
I think the biggest problem with the movie adaptation is they failed to translate the timeless nature of the Eternals and the perspective they have over time and human issues.
In the Gaiman comics, Makkari is thinking in the ice for two weeks straight, meditating. Ikaris is reduced to ashes and is reborn from nothing; Ajak gives zero fucks about anything and everyone, and he even killed Sprite for the acts he commited. They really are completely different beings from us, as they have a different perspective on all subjets, which is fascinating to read.
In the movie, the Eternals personality is completely . They love, hate, and envy just the same way the humans do, and are no different in that regard. Because of that, every character comes out corny and excessibly naive for beings that have been around literally more time than humanity.
"The best depiction of superspeed"?? Ralph Boner sends his regards
I agree with you. I've always felt The Eternals would have made a better limited series tv show. A lot of my friends thought the same as well. It's a shame it's too late for that now.😢
It's not too late 😁 I feel like they need to make the next chapter somehow. The movie ended on a cliffhanger. I would love it if the story continued as a series. They could still use flashbacks the same way to flesh out the characters' stories better, even those that didn't survive season 1.
Disney if you're listening: we still need Eternals the series!
It's really too ironic to cancel a project called the Eternals, civilized minds can't abide it and neither shall I
Hello. Heroes, season 1, was the BEST superhero series to date. I will die on that hill 😊
Ryan Arey must be brilliant because I had the same thought upon watching Eternals in theaters.
As much as I hate the Eternals and wish never to see or get mentioned of any of them again, I really like this idea, Ryan. You basically tackled all my complaints about the film except the constant time skips which threw me off upon first viewing, but maybe in a show format, the time skips would've made sense as it would've been actual breathing room for each character to be properly introduced and told about their specific motivations in the story. I'm still not entirely sure about the Ikarus plot twist being woven in, but for the most part had this happened, Eternals probably wouldn't be known as Marvel's first flop. You should be a showrunner.
Agreed, if they did it that way maybe they could be cool, but as it is, I never care to see them ever again
I don't buy Eternals as marvel's first flop. I found it far more innovative and exciting than the weird circus that was Scarlet Witch and Dr Strange show, or even Thor 4: Gorr War, for instance, as much as I love Watiti and Hemsworth. But totally agree that more would be more to tell the Eternals story. I loved the movie in part because I felt with the strength of those performances, they sold it amazingly well in the time they had--but a show would definitely be even better.
Holy crap i couldnt explain why i liked the eternals but now it makes sence. I was a HUGE heroes fan. Still have every season on dvd. I wish this movie could of had more heroes season 1
"We're on a mission from Gaad . . . " 😅
Beautiful, would've watched your idea and liked it 😀
Your idea on this story is so on point ❤
quarterbacking on mondays is so easy and anyone can do it
You said they didn't expand on the relationships in the movies... yet Phastos storyline and his family seemed to be etched in well.
These were my exact thoughts as soon as I finished watching the movie, but there was another show that immediately popped up in my head that could have been a great reference point for a 10-episode series with a very similar structure. And that is The Haunting of the Hill House - I know, completely different genres and themes, but my reference was more so towards how all of the children and both the parents have an episode from their POV, with many unique scenes and then also a good amount of overlapping scenes we had already seen but now from a different perspective, and we also had episodes to introduce and conclude the whole plot with everything woven together nicely. I genuinely thought that this whole side of MCU had very big potential.
Yep. Been saying this since it came out. There were simply too many characters for a movie. Like, I thought Druid's story was compelling, but it had showed up and was over before you had any time to digest it.
Yesss, I said this as soon as it came out although when i first heard it was announced I expected it to be a show anyways due to vast amount of characters the enternals has and how diverse they are . I feel like each episode should have slowly introduced one or two of them at a time so that the audience could properly understand and appreciate the complexity of each character
I agree. I said it right after I saw it that Marvel should've made it into a series.
That's a very good take on it! That movie pitch is great.
While I agree/like more or less everything said in the video, I also think the film is way better than most of the Marvel fandom realise and would GREATLY appreciate if you could give more detail for why you think underrated/overhated. I've been this films defender for years now so would love to hear from someone who feels the same way.
Yeah, I have to agree with you. It seemed like there were too many characters and not enough development in the film. I honestly had forgotten all about Makkari in the film I completely forgotten about her one point until she up again near the end of the film.
Actually, it should have been both. All the prequel stuff, everything that happened before the current timeline should have been a show. Giving ample time to explore their characters, and how they influenced or stood by in past events. And how that effected them
Then a movie for the current events. This would have allowed more time for the new characters and current events.
The face he made when you said or 30,000$ 😅😅😅😅😅
I'm glad others feel this way. This was my first thought after walking out of the theater.
your right, should have changed its place with Shehulk, I mean a good shehulk movie (with real court acting) would be awsome
Why Disney hasn't hired your crew yet is a mystery to me. Every decision you've advocated for would have made me such a loyal fan
That sounds great. I really love everything you said. It really should've had more time to breathe. I wonder how a lot of this phase 4 stuff ended up so half-baked?
Me and my sibling have been saying this for years. Thank you for making this.
I think a 10-episode series leading to a movie would have been perfect, but I also really enjoy the movie as it is! It is definitely flawed, but it has so much about it that is very interesting. I think it may have the best soundtrack in the MCU, and I love the costume design and the beach fight scene.
💯 this video!
I said this at the theater! Absolutely should have been a show. Too many characters fighting for time, but no way to give them all enough. It could have been a fantastic show (especially if they could have structured it more along the Gaiman mini-series a few years back---my first real exposure to the Eternals and a really good read).
That certainly was one of my first thoughts after watching this movie. It felt to long and yet like to much was cut off from it.
I think that marvel should try to adapt the 13 episodes structure of tv shows into their shows and that the eternals was a great opportunity they missed. 1 episode for each character(including episode where you gradually see the connection and interaction between characters), 1 for the deviants/celestials and a two part finale
My husband and I have been saying that for years. Plus it up, let us get acquainted with the characters, then go for it.
Not to mention Blade’s cameo. Or the Knight.
Neil Gaiman's comic was excellent, & as someone who didn't follow these characters previously, learnt everything we needed within this story. This would have made a better movie.
I love your enthusiasm for the stories and their unarguable potential. The only problem is Disney. Whether or not it was a good idea, making the Eternals a movie instead of a series facilitated a larger budget, which resulted in better visual effects and the star-studded cast. If it had been a Disney+ show then the cast would have been less A-list (not necessarily a bad thing) but the visual effects would have been a lot worse (I refer you to Secret Invasion and She-Hulk).
It's also worth pointing out that time and time again, Disney have shown that they don't care about telling good stories. Their priority is to just pump out content - until that ethos changes, real fans will continue speculating about what could have been because what is actually produced will persistently disappoint.
The statue isn't the 1st time something from 1 of the movies was ignored. What ever happened to the Ego blod that formed in that Wisconsin (?) town. Was it ever talked about in any project after Gaurdians 2?
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I understood that reference 😂
It totally should've been a Disney+ series
I think they should have split the difference... do 6-8 Episodes of 20-30 minutes for Disney Plus; of Character work, back story and general world Building; and clif's notes of why the "Band Broke Up"...then two weeks before the release date; broadcast them on ABC as a "special event" and then open it up on Hulu the Monday before release
everybody who wants to see it and be 'up to date' can do so... Then drop a 110 minute Movie with the Bulk of the Plot as we saw it
Agreed, the Eternals has way too much hate & made me enjoy it even more once I finally saw it! It kinda makes sense with this cast why it wasn’t a Disney+ series though.
Honestly would just love the original cut at 4.5 hours that they had to cut down apparently.
I am a massive fan of this movie. It's my fav MCU for sure, but I think it could have been cool as a Disney+ and maybe they can save Eternals 2 for this. I'd love an episode each centered around or even narrated by each Eternal.
Not a new take, but still the right one.
Shehulk mention the statue
Although I actually liked The Eternals and hoped for a 2nd movie - I do agree that given the time that the Eternals have been on Earth and the number of them, it would've been much better to have this done as a series so that we had more time to get to know each of the characters better, and the build up to the battle at the end would've been much better. I just hope they don't forget about the Eternals as there's still so much they could do with these characters! Plus there's a HUGE story there especially with the Celestials
totally agree..it would have been a great show but I also loved it as a movie (i did several rewatches and it kept getting better each time)
At this point, Fiege needs to just call you guys directly.
I've been saying this to the hubby since we walked out of the theater
My idea back then was at least a do miniseries fleshing out the 10 Eternals before the movie because let's be honest we barely anything about them even by the end of the film
Should have been a show. I've said this for years. Sam and Bucky could have been a movie since we already know those guys. We needed more time with the Eternals
After seeing this movie in theaters "it should have been a series on Disney+" has been my take on it the whole time.
As some what of a historical buff because of my family lineages I really didn’t have a problem with this movie. Just recently rewatched The Eternals, haven’t seen it since in theaters, and yeah think as show it could have worked better for the flash backs to breathe more. Especially scenes with the Deviants. They really needed more time.
I just wish they showed the celestial that got stopped in the middle of an ocean in any of the mcu projects afterwards, literally nothing about it haha
I've been saying the same thing for so long. It should have been a TV series than a movie. So it wouldn't feel rushed.
One question, if in your version Eternals dont have their memory then how come they don't notice that they are not getting older over the decades
Child actor that just stays a child and no one notices? 🤣
@@Jim674the18 exactly 🤣🤣
I just wished the Eternals focused on the cosmic aspect of Marvel first. But they started the storyline on Earth.
10000% agree
I'm one of the very few that love this film. I wish they made a follow-up series or film right away, to develop the many characters. Too bad it's not well-received.
I just want my Marvel Spotlight special presentation of a bollywood musical about Kingo and Karun.
This would have been so good!
YES!
Thank you for bringing up the Neil Gaiman run! I really hoped they would adapt that plot for whatever they did for Eternals, but we got what we got.
I could not agree with you more, Ryan. Excellent plot ideas and execution! Too bad they chose the movie route. A series could have actually gotten fans invested in this part of the MCU instead of just confused as to where it all fits in.🤷♂️
This makes SO MUCH SENSE!
It does on paper but it wouldn’t work out, unless it was something TOTALLY different and new for Disney + but it wouldn’t happen because Disney released sub par shows on D+
D+ said they were doing soemthing new with the MA rating, they said it was going to be dark and gritty and something we have never seen in the MCU but yet…..it was the same typical marvel not doing anything to push the MA rating, and ended rushly with the a CGI fest of magical powers to effortlessly defeat kingpin which was underwhelming and just bad. So with that I don’t trust marvel on evolving superhero cinema so why would I think they could have done An actual good eternals show. Which can be done but I don’t think by marvel in this current time, maybe 8 yrs ago or hopefully 8 yrs later.
Not trying to hate, it’s unfortunately the truth I know a good eternals show can be made
I’m one of the few who actually enjoyed the movie
It was a decent movie but would’ve been an amazing show if the executive trust in the complexities of comic book story writing and see them as long form novels and adapt them appropriately. Some ideas work as movies with a central theme that is quickly developed but some need time to breathe to bring people into the world and make it all make sense to them before the big fight scenes.
Totally agree that it should have been a series. So many new characters to introduce with such a rich story. Way too much story to jam into a movie. I did enjoy the movie but it definitely didn’t serve justice to the Eternals story
I would agree it deserved a series commitment better than Secret Invasion
They should remake it into TV series based on the comics
Druig and Makkari had better chemistry than the main characters, Sersi and Ikaris 🤷♀
Nice video
And how would you explain the Black Knight? Is he a character you would have introduced in a different series or movie and how would you do that?
Honestly with the story, Eternals would have worked great as a series
My thoughts exactly immediately after watching the movie!!!
I would have been fine with it being a 6-10 episode series so long as they kept the run time the same consistent length unlike another MCU TV series.
Brilliant pitch! I read the Gaiman run back in the day, and it would have been perfect. I always thought, the Eternals felt terribly disconnected to the MCU. The rather unnecessary DC references only added to that.
This makes much more sense
This is another reason I love screen crush. They justify the reasons for their thoughts.
I love the eternals. I agree a series would have been a better format. I want to see the eternals and celestials in animation.
You’re version actually makes me like the eternals
Yes all of this
I think it should have taken place on Titan instead of earth. The eternals become the reason that Thanos' world is destroyed as the resource conflict was used to raise a celestial. The post credit scene shows them start the process on earth, only to be delayed by Thanos' snap, with it unclear what the future holds for the eternals present on earth.
I can’t be the only one that saw the thumbnail and thought “Emma Frost wearing Cerebro”.
I feel like if it was a D+ show, people would say that it should've been a movie. Then SC would make a cool video about how Marvel should have went bigger and made it a movie. Then you'd talk about how the budget would've been bigger to show the scale of the story. In the end, the MCU fan base wants what it can't have.
Agree