Pikachu's Moves - History Behind Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2010
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This video shows where I believe some of Pikachu's moves come from or my ideas behind what possibly influenced some of his moves.
By the way, I don't mean for my videos to come out this long. My goal is not to intentionally make videos as long as some television shows.
So, at this point, I think it's a good time to re-establish the focus of my project. All I do is present what I know and what I have found out through looking deeper at some aspects of the original sources of Brawl. I am not claiming that everything in my videos is 100% accurate or 100% complete. However, I do my best to cover everything I know or have found out as best as I can in a concise manner.
With that being said, researching some aspects of Volt Tackle led me into an unusual chain of possible references. While I can't say with 100% certainty what is referencing what, all I can really do is present the evidence I found for the references, even if no particular conclusion can be drawn.
Furthermore, a few of Pikachu's moves were inconclusive as to what the actual sources (or inspirations) were, when looking at the Pokémon series. (Chances are, a few aspects about Pikachu's moves were simply made up for the Smash Bros. series.)
So, try to keep this things in mind when watching this video. Hope you enjoy it!
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On a related note, I feel like my video on Pikachu's moves in Melee was kinda... fail. I'm actually considering deleting it. I may or may not. I'll have to think about it.
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One more thing: If you're interested in some of the technical aspects of Pikachu speaking in Pokémon Yellow, you might want to look at this web page:
www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_e...
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If you're wondering why Pikachu has moves he shouldn't, is so leveled, why he levels DOWN in Yellow, etc... The short answer is that I used tools to help me out in making this video, otherwise acquiring the video clips I needed would be EXTREMELY time consuming and difficult. I used these tools:
www.zophar.net/utilities/gbche...
www.projectpokemon.org/editing...
www.cyclopsds.com/cgi-bin/cycl...
I used Gameshark codes to help me out with Pokémon Emerald.
I had to purchase a CycloDS to transfer edited Pokémon from Diamond and Pearl into Battle Revolution, since Battle Revolution doesn't work with any other DS storage devices.
As for why Pikachu levels down in Pokémon Yellow:
I couldn't find a tool that would work specifically with Pokémon Yellow saves. However, the editor for Red and Blue would open Yellow save files just fine. But in the game, when Pikachu would level in an edited save, he would go down, and the game would think that it was the first time Pikachu reached that level. Thus he would learn a move even if he was already at a higher level. So in other words, the save editor for Red and Blue would work with Yellow, but it wasn't quite 100% compatible.
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In case you don't have annotations turned on, from 16:28 to 16:39 , I say:
I am aware there are short descriptions of moves in Pokémon Stadium 2. However, most of them basically stated the type of attack and its effect (on the user or target) and very rarely how the attack is executed. The description for Submission said nothing like how Pikachu performs a back-throw in Melee/Brawl.
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...It seems like the software I use for editing these videos screwed up the audio in two places. And, as usual, I don't notice until the video is already uploaded on CZcams and processed. The music that starts playing at 2:11 is supposed to start playing at 2:04 and the part that plays at 2:34 is supposed to play at 2:27. Basically, the battle music is supposed to play when the trading cards are shown. (I even had the fading of the music to match the transitions.) When I went back to fix something in the earlier part of the video, the battle music I added did not stay with the video where I had originally placed it, but instead stayed at the same spot in the video timeline, thus skewing where the audio plays in the video. I was NOT aware that the video editing software I use does this. I will know better next time. - Hry
Wow, that's a keen eye to spot Pikachu on the Warp Star to have an exact replica of his surfing position in Yellow, didn't know that!!
Just so you know: Electro Ball was introduced in the 5th generation (Black and White), which came out like, 3 years after Brawl
Great job this a lot better then the one you had for Melee
Neat stuff, especially the Volt Tackle thing
i like your videos they are really good, and make me remind my childhood
i applaud you good sir. i was not bored for one minute in this history lesson. I just had to subscribe. keep up the good work. congradulations on graduating too.
Very informative! Great job!
13:30 Pikachu leveled down!
Wow, I never noticed that Pikachu was surfing on the warp stars.
And that Tekkaman/Voltman reference was a mindfuck.
Woah, the Volt Tackle facts, cool stuff :)
this must have taken a long time to make. good work.
Pikachu's Side Tilt is Mega Kick and his Down Tilt is Tail Whip.
this brings back good memorys
So in other words: Since Pikachu can only learn Volt Tackle as Pichu, Melee's Pichu is Brawl's Pikachu :P
Pikachu's defense was no affect while using skull bash in Melee.
Excellent EXCELLENT video! You taught me something about Pokémon today, and I thought I knew it all.
Upthrow, dash attack and somewhat forward and down aerial can also be a reference to Headbutt.
^^ An addition would be Pokemon Snap when Pikachu uses Quick Attack, giving off little sparkles as he runs in the Swamp.
Love these~ ^^ I hope you keep up some more Historys in gaming
Terrific as always. I knew volt tackle was a reference to Pulseman, but, having not (yet) played the game, I was unaware the animation looked so similar to Brawl's. Thanks!
I think you should leave the other one up, since there's no real reason not to.
you know this would make a good television series
This was definately my favorite of your recent videos, it was actually quite interesting, It also made me nostalgic, I grew up with pokemon o:
Yes, I love this video. So in depth.
I personally wish they made Pikachu behave more accurately to the games, carrying over defense increase while charging Skull Bask and making Volt Tackle more accurate and giving it recoil damage would make me happy. Although if it were a straight tackle, similar to Marth's Critical Hit final smash, it would be even more likely to miss. Farther more, 100% accuracy attacks can still miss on occasion.
Take Swift for example. It never misses and instead of 100%, the accuracy of the move is blank. Therefore if they would just add recoil damage it could be more accurate. However, players may not like a final smash that damages them. I can understand why the recoil damage was not included.
I can also understand if carrying over the defense turn of Skull Bash is too difficult or impossible.
In my opinion though, the only reason Pikachu still has Thunder Jolt is because he had it since the first game. There's Discharge, Electro Ball, Nuzzle, Charge Beam, and more to choose from nowadays that would work for Smash Bros. 4, but they keep Thunder Jolt in because he has always had it in smash, and it displeases me.
so ur saying they need to make pikachu worse?
I know this is an old comment, but damn you're a dumbass. It's further more, not farther.
i don't know if someone else noticed, but when he was talking about thunderbolt and showing pikachu getting to level 26, it was weird because pikachu was in level 27 and then he grew his level to 26
the in game animation for volt tackle in gen 4 and 5, has lightening going back and forth in an erractic fashion toward the opponent
Note also that Japanese "Electric Shock" is translated as "Thundershock" in the Pokemon games (28:24), but as "Thunder Jolt" in both the cards and SSBB. Maybe it's two mistranslations and is just a coincidence?
Also, "Shadow Duplication" is a WAAAAYYYY better name than Double Team.
yo CCD: an interesting theory that i have for Volt Tackle is that the "Recoil", so to speak, could be the fact that since the attack can stop anywhere, Pikachu has a very good percentage of a self destruct
Pikachu also uses the surfboard when he uses surf in the 3D games.
When you started explaining the origin of Volt Tackle's name, I was thinking "What does Tekkaman Blade have to do with Pokémon?" Then I remembered, "Vol Tekka" sounding somewhat similar, but then I thought "Nah, I don't think so." That was until you got to Pulseman; the way the move looks, the name (In Japanese), and the fact that it was developed by Game Freak. That made an even bigger connection making me think "Okay, that actually makes perfect sense!"
just to correct your theory about the neutral b from pikachu! in my mother tounge (german) it says that it is thunderBOLT which is crazy because i expectet something stronger from it D:
18:45 SUPER EFFECTIVE!
Pikachu appeared like that in Super Smash Bros.
Makes me want to play all my pokemon games over again, starting from my first...Pokemon RED on gameboy color
*gasp* oh my gosh, Quick Attack's animation in Pokemon Red DOES reflect its Super Smash Bros. appearance! The way Pikachu first moves backwards, then shoots forward towards the enemy is JUST like in Super Smash Bros.! I never freaking noticed that!
great vid, i lol'd at the part of charm's translation "behave in a spoiled manner" XD
The neutral B move looks a lot like Shock Wave in appearance, just Shock Wave travels in a straight line.
The Pokemon TCG was extremely popular at the time of Super Smash Bros. release. In my mind, Thunder Jolt was always a little nod to fans of the card game (like myself).
Knowing that the the Japanese version holds the the same reference, simply removes what little doubt I might've had.
I believe that Pikachu's Up special is his agility attack and his side special is Quick Attack.
I believe in the swamp level of Pokemon Snap you can see pikachu using quick attack around a fallen tree. Although that might be agility.
I somewhat expected you to mention Pulseman, but I definitely didn't expect you to mention Tekkaman.
19:03
CCD: "Like other Pokemon in the anime (except for team rockets meowth), Pikachu is only capable of saying it's name."
Professor Oak: "Oh rly?"
@link7122000 yes, that pikachu knew surf. a pikachu from pokemon yellow special pikachu version may learn surf if the player knows what to do. From what I remember it involves using pokemon stadium and having pokemon yellow while winning a certain cup with pikachu participating in every battle. Something like that anyway.
Even better, we got Pichu in Brawl being more powerful and not damaging himself
I read this in a Guiness World Records book: Scientists discovered this protein, which they named "Pikachurin", after (obviously) Pikachu.
Hmmm... when you showed us the gameplay of Pulseman, it looked that you had some problems to go fast and charge electricity. Here's an useful tip: press left or right twice to perform a speed warp. It makes Pulseman to move fast (like Pikachu's Quick Attack) and charge electricity.
Next time you play, try that trick if there's not much space to run.
Pikachus down smash was inspired from the dp anime. He use a counter shield by spinning on the ground from his back while using thunderbolt. This can counter projectiles coming your way.
Miguel Cuevas Unfortunately anime ins't cannon and the down smash came before dp anime :/
***** Yea, I was stupid
Awh oh well haha :)
I'm a little surprised you didn't mention Pikachu's little backflip from coming out of the pokeball. In Pokemon Battle Revoltion he does a backflip and in Brawl he does a really fast backflip.
I always hoped one of the electric-ball moves was spark, cause it was the card game pikachu's original move, but he was never able to learn it, even by TM in the games once spark was added.
I really enjoy these vids. The amount of detail that you go into really shows and is a great way to add to the long but very detailed history of Nintendo :)
My Pokemon Red rom is perfectly A-OK, even if I saw a few glitches- and yes, I caught Missingno. Yet it still knows the difference between "doesn't effect" and "miss". If it says "doesn't effect", you have a type matchup problem. If it says "miss", either the opponent is hiding behind a high Evasion or your pokemon is blinded by a low Accuracy.
I remember Pikachu appearing and disappearing due to incredible speed in the anime, but I could be wrong...
Honestly i still find the volt tackle thing a stretch, but looking at the evidence very possible :) I would never have figured volt tackle was a reference to another anime and game. I also have to apologize to my friends. I've been ranting that volt tackle in brawl doesnt match volt tackle in game, as cool as it was, but that was before i even saw volt tackle performed on Emerald. woops o-o lol. i was more basing it off of the anime XD
Great vid btw :D very interesting.
@MP3videos speaking of Meowth, him being the main antagonist Pokemon with Pikachu being the main protagonist Pokemon makes a reference to the fabled rivalry between cats and mice, as Meowth and Pikachu are themselves cat and mouse
Descriptions were initially given to attacks in Generation 2. They could be viewed by selecting to organize the move layout from the overworld menu.
Most likely the old GB Poke'mon games didn't say "____'s attack missed!" instead It says "It doesn't affect ____!" Due the cartridge space limits.
Their Should Be a History Behind Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS!
@SmashLiXs I was also gonna say how it says Headbutt can make an opponent flinch, sometimes it causes them to trip in Brawl.
in pokemon gold, silver, red, blue and yellow when you miss with certain attacks it will say it does not effect
Great one!
I think there is a good possibility that pikachus up a belongs to iron tail, he could learn it by using tms and he's got it in the anime.
Man, for every other Smash Bros Character, it would be fairly simple, but for Pokemon, I would find it nearly impossible to find most of these moves except for the B-moves that are there.. Mainly because they can only use a certain amount of set moves. You have done well to find these. This must have taken a ton of research to do. Especially going into Japanese exclusive games and taking every little detail in a ton of games. Excellent job. I tip my non-existent hat to you, sir.
Actually, that sparking taunt Pikachu does, it suppsoedly refernces the Pokemon Yellow cover you see Pikachu doing. That's where I read before.
The funny think is, you should compare before the first super smash, because their move already exist.
the amount of research you put into these videos impresses me. But this one is by far the one that astounded me the most. Would never have thought about VoltMan!
21:15 Dancing flowers!
This is pro history. History has never ben this fun! :P
I have videos that showcase all of those moves that Pikachu could learn via level-up in Diamond (with the exception of Thunder since I kept Discharge mainly for doubles purposes) early in my Pikachu solo run. I do not have videos of Pikachu showcasing Thunder at all. See especially parts like 2.5 where I showcase Slam, and 1.6 where I showcase Volt Tackle.
I like these videos, but they are so much longer than they need to be.
major nostalgia just watching that opening pokemon battle and hearing the music
Congratulations! Your Pikachu learned Thunder! Now he knows what lightning sounds like!
Another thing to note would be if you imported your yellow version starter Pikachu into Pokemon Stadium it would say its name during certain attacks. It might be the same case with Stadium 2 I'm not sure.
The anamations are so much better in older games.
This aged… too well.
THE taunt when pikachu is charging thunder is in fact from the anime when he are goanna take out team rocket and make them fly to the skyes again"
u planned this very well :D
Whenever I read slam's description, I always assumed it meant that the Pokemon lifted the opponent into the air with their tail, vine, ect. then actually slammed them.
I mean, look at Dragonair, how much could that thing really hurt throwing itself at you like giant noodle. However if that same Dragonair were to wrap it's tail around your throat and slam you against walls, that might hurt.
In any event, the Nintendo Power Guide for Melee has Pikachu's smash attack listed as Thunder Shock.
+MarxForever the "dragonair tail wraping thing around your throat" thing sounds like bind
I always thought this (I didn't look at trophies) B:Electric attack A Down: Electric attack B Side: Tackle Up: Dash
Got an update for you.
In Generation V of the Pokemon games (Black and White), there is a new move called Electro Ball. If the next SSB game has that neutral-B move, you know where to get a reference. :)
I don't know if this was mentioned, but I'm surprised you didn't mention Pikachu sparkling in his Quick Attack and the sparkling Pikachu did in Pokemon Snap
12:48 to 12:59 Holy crap! He leveled down!
Pokemon Yellow's (Special Edition) Pikachu also talks in Pokemon Stadium.
To record all this footage, you have to play many hours Pokemon! I´m pretty impressed of this Video. Thank you "CrappyCaptureDevice".
@jeroen725 Tail whip in the Japanese games is Tail Wag. There is no contact happening. The user cutely wags its tail to lower the opponent's defense.
15:52 yeah, you're right... and you forgot to show Pikachu getting hit with recoil.
Personally I think that his tail attacks are based on Pound, not Slam, but they're both described similarly so that could just be me.
Around 19:45, Pikachu cries. Shortly, he cries again. Shortly, well, you know.
amazing very good reasoning
Interesting how thet snuck in a subtle reference to Pikachu's Surf...
Just... wow...
This video makes me wanting to buy PBR!
Can anybody give me a link to a video where it shows these EXACT moves, but on a Generation VI game (X/Y/OR/AS)?
@ExtremeYoshiFan Yeah, a Pikachu named Pooka.
Pikachu is so pro that it can surf backwards
Well, why not? It won't hurt to make a little mention of it.
Can you do either Luigi's moves or the victory themes next?
In the game Pulseman when he attacks it sounds like he's saying f you.
Pickachus my favorite in,ssbb
the pikachu card with the purple bits always reminds me of those purple babybells O_O
Some times I truly don't understand why people criticize Nintendo for everything they have done. Your videos show how they keep their company alive with great fresh and great memories. :) You should try applying for the Nintendo company and show them how well you know their company through and through :)
7:47 did I hear a Cubchoo cry?
@CrappyCaptureDevice
Rattata's a normal type. After the in-depth analysis, I'm a bit surprised you'd make a simple mistake like that.
My only guess is that the attack missed (100% accurate moves in RBY only have 99.6% accuracy due to programming oversight), but it usually says "attack missed!" Did you have codes on?
(Sorry for re-iterating the same thing. :\)
Pikachu uses Thunderbolt on Ash in the Pokemon Black and White anime (The Trubbish Squad is the episode), it's really funny!