Problematic Hadiths Related to Women's Rights | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- We look at hadiths which are problematic when it comes to women's rights. We sit down with Dr. Shabir Ally and explore this topic further.
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We need more scholars like him, who are not afraid of dealing with controversial topics and speak out.
If your source is Israr Ahmed Khan, you are not a scholar.
@@holdshiftt2run308 But why?
@@holdshiftt2run308 why do you care?
@acerdarkling8021men are not in charge of women. The correct translation is "caretakers/maintainers of"
Whenever you come across a problematic hadith regarding women remeebr that Allah said" we have created you from the same soul" and that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) never hit a single person in his life nor did he speak to him a rude way !!!
You should mention 'innocent person' or else these Islamophobes will talk about the wars he was a part of.
@Wanheda Makarov badr, Uhud, Trench etc
@Wanheda Makarov yeah muslims know that. Islamophobes will twist the truth anyway though
Not true. He has spoken to people in rude ways but it was justified
I’ve heard these hadiths and I’ve always found them to be sooo problematic and oppressive to women. It never made any sense and contradicted everything the Quran says about women. I wish more people would speak about it because a lot of the issues women deal with in this ummah is oppression!
Even Quran is a hadith and proplematic when you read it and tafzirs in arabic without any sugarcoating and deceiptfullness.
P R did you SERIOUSLY just compare the word of Allah to a Hadith? That’s shirk.
@@AliRiazAliTheBaba Ali, which Hadiths do you read and follow?
David Myers To be honest, as of now I don’t really spend my time reading loads of collections of hadiths. I follow certain scholars in the Maliki fiqh of Sunni Islam. If a Hadith is in direct contradiction with the Qur’an, then I don’t follow it. I’m still learning about the science of hadiths, and quite frankly, Islam as a whole.
@@AliRiazAliTheBaba Thanks Ali. i have been told that it is very hard to understand the Quran without the hadiths. do you have an example of a hadith that contradicts the Quran? since Jesus is exalted in the Quran as one of the great prophets, i assume that it is ok to say...Merry Christmas!! (i also always say happy Eads to my Muslim friends)
Without women, us men will be lost. After all it is a women that is responsible to teach our children. They're are our first teachers for a reason. More honorable than men and very special are they because of the burden they endure. Major respect to my Muslim sisters!
Thank you brother.
May Allah bless you with daughters. I think you will be a wonderful and empowering father to them.
wrong. it is NOT the duty of a woman to TEACH your kids. Actually it is THE DUTY OF A FATHER!!!
@@Treasure-bl3cn it's the duty of both parents...but it is usually the mother who spends the most time with the child and that is probably why he said that
@@Treasure-bl3cn how come a father teaches his child while he's not at home half of the day because of earnings, aren't you heard about the Hadith that says"if you wanted better education for your child find a better educated wife in deen and dunya"🤔
@@Treasure-bl3cn use of caps is considered shouting. Please stop shouting!
i love Dr. Shabir he is not like these men trying to put women down. Alhamdullilah!!
@Truthfears Guilty that's literally none of your business and it's offensive to her
@Truthfears Guilty And you're putting yourself down shaming her in public.
Polly Kerr give a source of Hadith/ Quran then
Polly Kerr
It’s shameful that you don’t understand simile
If you think comparing women to field is insult then what about comparing men to women’s garments?does that mean Islam insults men as well?
Women is compared to tilth because they both place where life is grown.And that’s the reason paradise is under her feet
Luqman 31:14
وَوَصَّيْنَا ٱلْإِنسَٰنَ بِوَٰلِدَيْهِ حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُۥ وَهْنًا عَلَىٰ وَهْنٍ وَفِصَٰلُهُۥ فِى عَامَيْنِ أَنِ ٱشْكُرْ لِى وَلِوَٰلِدَيْكَ إِلَىَّ ٱلْمَصِيرُ
English - Sahih International
And We have enjoined upon man [care] for his parents. His mother carried him, [increasing her] in weakness upon weakness, and his weaning is in two years. Be grateful to Me and to your parents; to Me is the [final] destination.
@@muhammedshanushan3931 Shanu, the verse specifically says that Allah has given man to til (plow) women. it also advises women not to say no to her husband...ever.
what about this verse do you not understand. what part is not clear. what part is up for debate.
Wow he is first scholar in my life who is mentioning hadith which I've heard alot and this is the reasons I decided to love single life, it's kinda hard to live with husband, my father never treated me less in my entire life, how can a random person come in my life and get more value without doing any effort where my father raised me and never have all these value strange strange strange hadith
Exactly, I know females who are scared of getting married and I am too cuz of how women seem to be treated compared to men in a husband wife's relationship even tho I feel like they do much more and put much more effort in a marriage physically and mentally.
@@mariamfaisal4896 and people often misunderstood it as a feminism, but I don't like feminism it's a dumb thing to me, I don't want to waste my life to prove to people about my worth, everyone has different perspectives and I respect all perspectives, I don't see any of them uneducated or backwards, everyone has there own reasons, and I have mine, and I would never like to force my ideology on others, cause I have met some girls who love to serve their husbands, and I'm no one to tell'em that it's abnormal, Allah knows best, and I'm really happy with my single life ❤️ but I don't like when married people comment on single people to get married like them, because that's the one and only key of success and way to happiness, if that's the case then I would say "No susan, bye"
@ben hacine it's not like islam has decreased woman status, but men r too rude, Muslim or non-Muslim. There r exception but cant take risk, let Allah handle this. ❤️
@ben hacine cam you explain more to me if you can about why you took that decision and what your point of view on it is, because I'm stuck in the mindset of not wanting to stay single my whole life but like as you sa i d I agree men are really rude and it seems like their status in a wide and husband's relationship is far more superior supporting them to be bossy around women, like sometimes it just seems like women are mens slaves 😔 I'm so confused with this decision.
@@minhyukismxskey7286 I know I'm replying a little late but I completely agree with you, I'm not a feminist either, neither do I believe in the whole idea. Also married and people who ate older than you specially in brown/desi communities are always pushing themselves into your personal lives and one of the biggest things the interfere with is marriage, always asking when your gonna get married and stuff but like why can't they just keep to themselves, people need to stop seeing marriage as something that completed life specially for women.
I find Dr. Ally's opinions refreshing when compared to some of the dogmatic stuff we hear from the self-appointed "scholars" we see elsewhere in video. In contrast to some comments criticizing Dr. Ally for having a woman host (his daughter?), I commend him for it. We should see more articulate women speaking on Islamic topics.
His daughter is Saffiyah :)
@@albabjigarandrabi3166 Yeah I was going to say, their surnames do not match and in Islam, a woman keeps her surname when she marries.
@@Kateaclysmic a woman does NOT keep her surname when she marries
@@comicahmet she does in Islam
@@comicahmet in Islam it is encouraged to do so, but many women change diet names today
As a non Muslim I'd like to say that I love listening to Dr Ali. He's very intellectual and his points are logically consistent so far I can tell. Certainly he is miles better than Zakir (I'm medical doctor) Naik
same as non muslim, I like that he's honest about his views, opinions, and isn't afraid of talking about controversial topics and verses. He doesn't try to hide from them or act like they aren't there but is up front and gives it like it is.
You people rather listen to Richard Dawkins.
It’s real simple. Any Hadith that contradicts the Quran. You should reject it. Whether it is in Bukhari or not.
You should not take a Hadith in isolation without referencing what the previous or contemporary scholars has said about it.
Lastly isnaad our deen has a unbroken chain of collection of Hadith which can be traced back to the prophet saws. So any Hadith seems dubious or does not fit with principles of Islam or reason and logic. It means there’s a weak link in the chain that needs to be investigated.
I said these and they labelled me as liberal. Lol.
@@user-hv2ni4oy5z 🤣🤣🤣🤣 truth
I commend his bravery to call a spade as a spade, call degrading Hadith as degrading. Considering the cultist tendency of his fellow religionists to attack or persecute those who do not “defend” their religion, this is brave. I hope someday he reach the enlightenment where he can see that the real truth does not need defending. The real truth should be able to defend itself, otherwise it is not the truth. Everyone has to be encouraged to think critically of his/her religion (as well as others) instead of defending their religion no matter what. Many Muslims understand this when it comes to other believes, but not when it comes to their own believe.
Alejandro Sudiro exactly!
Exactly, well said pal
Just don’t understand why weak hadiths are so prominent , if in fact weak... why are they even in the books if their so problematic
Becouse of muslim schollars ignorance who just take any and every hadith as it is
@@didasinan9669 Sheeba and Indi, can you advise as to how you choose which hadiths to follow? is it only the authentic hadiths? if so, is it all of their hadiths? if not that means that you do not trust some of the authentic hadiths. if this is true then how can you trust any of them. the issue is that many of these "problematic" hadiths come directly from the most authentic sources. and if we do not know which hadiths to trust then how can we truely understand the Quran. the only logical answer would be take the Quran literally and not interpret anything in it. it says what it says and that should be followed.
can you see why i am confused?
@@maxq4958 Honestly not digging so much in hadits in past i did which doesnt mean i don't trust at all. Why i changed my thoughts is becouse of mess we have and opinions of islamic teacher's.
Every intelligent person can benefit from reading just Qur'an and if thete is something critical to understand then go to tefsir.
Hadits came from man writing did prophet said and what or either they met him is big question. Prophet has huge family and other responsibilities and did he walk and give explanation to all hadit writers i dont belive.Short ones are most likely to be prophet's saying. Other than that use ones what most make sense.!! They should publish all new books with most authentic and remove from public fabricated but they dont they just sit and lecturing on and on!!!
@@didasinan9669 uP
@@maxq4958 Study the the Quran, get to know Allah and the Prophet saw. After studying with sincerity, you'll know who you are, why you're here and what's your purpose. Reading and hearing about the life and character of the Prophet saw of authentic sources, will make you more capable of judging the hadith (sahih or not) to be something the Prophet could have said. Your fitrah/ intuition is also your guide in this life as wel! You cannot change nor debate the Quran, however, you could with the hadith. Allahu 'Alam
Eve is not blamed for enticing Adam to eat the forbidden fruit (nor is there the concept of original sin). On the contrary, the Quran indicates that "they ate of it" and were both to blame for that transgression (Quran 20:121-122)
ikr idk why that hadith blaming eve was written. If Allah didnt blame Eve, what right do humans have to blame Eve. Also how dare that hadith writer talk like this about our mother Eve(Hawa)
Bukhari put that in the hadith collection.
I never give positive consideration to any hadith that demeans women or doesn't have the ring of truth to it. One of the things the Prophet said in his old age is that he felt (I'm paraphrasing) apprehensive of scholars who would come after him and who would misrepresent the truth or lead people down the wrong way. He saw it as a real threat. The Quran talks about justice to women. Even in the Quran, some things don't set well, unless we remember that those were different times. Especially the idea that women can be forced into sex with the men who capture them in a war, and it's alright for men to do that. I have never gotten a decent explanation for that one. So, I personally think that every detail in the Quran does not apply to today, but the principle does. There's a well-known speaker who defends the taking of women slaves in war even today. I'm glad you are speaking out about these things. It's well-known that when the Crusaders invaded Jerusalem, Muslim women killed themselves rather than be assaulted. Someone has to reconcile these two things. Muslim men would surely not like what happens to their women if they don't win the war. This discrepancy is very troubling. Since there is no compulsion in religion, it can't be explained away that the non-Muslim women at the time of the Prophet were idolatresses, so deserved to be raped. Anyhow, if you can shed light on this, or if you already have, please do so and let us know where we can find it. Thanks for your videos.
Same thoughts from me. Thanks for sharing, would like to listen on these issues too. :)
I am so glad that Dr. Shabir Ally is talking about such topics. Thank you so much. Jazakum Allah khair 🌹
Can you give me the hadith number?
Why in the world would that person think about Mother Hawa(Eve) like that?? She is the mother of all creation and people are disrespecting her like this. Both in bible and in hadith?
Explain. How does the Bible disrespect Eve. Sure God judges her for what she did in eating the fruit, but he also did against Adam then finally against Satan.
@@John14.6 Bible says that Eve was the one who deceived Adam into eating an apple, putting the blame on the woman which does have a double patriarchal meaning. Also, christians believe that periods are a punishment from God to all women for the actions of Eve, which is again, degrading and problematic.
@@hokumaaxundova2709 Sorry I don't understand your argument. As I said in my previous post God put the blame on Eve, Adam and Satan. No one got off their misdeeds.
I have personally never heard a Christian say that periods are a punishment from God though I am sure some have but we see all bad things such as disease and death as been judgement from God for what Adam and Eve did in the garden. It is what we refer to as the fall. But God new this is what would happen and he has made provision to deal with the fall and restore us back to fellowship with the Father.
Look at these verses from the Book of Romans "Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
And also "18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. 19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. 20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
He said so remarkable thing that the scholars of the early time were at that time when women were looked down so they selected those ahadith which were acceptable to the broadness of their mind.
A person accepts or chooses things only what befits his mentality.
Isn't this the reason why we should explore more and more? 🤔🤔
Please could you talk to pakistan scholars there go against womens rights
I know most actully beat women.
Pakistan has a very misogynistic society, and it has nothing to do with Islam !
Mufti Qasim I’m a pakistani and to be honest with you never met a person who beats his. There might be but I haven’t met any.
Mufti Qasim what do you do about the Quran saying you can beat your wife’s without Hadiths ? Makes no sense
@@Sultanrashidd Sultan, i am trying to learn about Islam and having a very difficult time following this conversation. Some believe that the Hadiths are almost worthless and only apply if they make sense in the 21st century. Some believe that the Quran is the direct word of Allah and can only be taken literally. As the Quran states, it is easy to understand, so therefor it does not require interpretation. others believe that the Quran (as you stated above) is impossible to understand WITHOUT the hadiths, as they provide context.
please guide me
I love this series. It is so eye-opening and I feel Dr. Shabir Ally is very honest and balanced and has no ulterior motive to control or demean women like it seems some other scholars from oppressive countries like Saudi for example do. May Allah grant him a long life to benefit our Ummah!
So the Ahadith mentioned at 8:41 are also considered not authentic, e.g. that women cannot travel unless accompanied by a Mahram? I am so glad to hear that because for a revert woman who has no mahram it would be very restrictive and it would prevent us to go on Hajj for example.
If relgious holy books could be tampered then remeeber haidths are narrations told from differetn people and they were recorded many years after the death of the Prophet(pbuh) Allah only promised to preserve Quran not hadiths !!!!!! in my opinion any hadith that does not make you love the Prophet more then it probs isnt an authenic one!!!
very true , hadiths are not Quran, narrators used to associate hadiths with the prophet even if they go against his values, just to gain credibility. Me personally i only rely on quran and morally accepted hadiths
But of course as is now commonly known the Quran hasn't been preserved. Regarding the hadith, my opinion is that it should be totally dropped by Islam - it is from there that you get a lot of your embarrassing beliefs. Some of them are not embarrassing but shocking and some of those from the ones that are considered the good hadith. In your heart of heart of hearts you know I am right.
On the question of the Quran containing variants, I don't have a problem with it having them because all ancient manuscripts have errors creep in. It happened with the old Greek writings such as Homer, it happened with my Bible, and it even happened with more modern works such as Shakespeare. With care most of those can be removed if you have enough material to work with. The problem for Islam is that it states this "It is an incontrovertible historical truth that the text of the Glorious Quran extant today is, syllable for syllable, exactly the same as the Prophet (p) had offered to the world as the Word of God." This quote is from this website can be found here www.whyislam.org/on-faith/the-preservation/ . That creates a problem for Islam.
You should watch the video of Dr. Shabir about the ancient Quran they discovered
@@John14.6 I get where you are coming from ... but coming the Quran word and word and I didn’t find anything that is offensive to me as a women ... but hadeeth is a different story
@@Iris-pz1xf Hi. I would agree with you that the Hadith is by far the biggest problem as it seems to be in all other area's of Islamic life, but there are some issues with the Quran. The worst is probably Sura 4.34 that says that if a women is arrogant to her husband, then he can beat her.
Sura 4.3 permitted a man to marry up to 4 wives.
Sura 2.282 states that if two men are not available to be a witness then you can have 1 man and 2 women instead. It says in case one of the women forgets something.
There are some other verses that are controversial but some can be argued away if one so wishes.
Doctor Shabir, you are really good at explaining some of the most difficult questions.
Thank you so much for this ... as a Muslim women I was ready too leave islam today after I found the hadith that says women are with “ half an intillect and half faithful practices “ even though we literally have no control over our Cycle and it was given to us by god , the fact that this hadith is not right is what gives me hope to keep going ... I will never ever stand with a religion that describes me as a person with half an intellect
U were ready to leave Islam? Then who will be affected with it? Everyone has full right to do whatever they wants in this world but every will be return to ALLAH so don't playing with deen
@@sach3656 it’s my deen and my beliefs and in the end it’s my relationship with Allah therefore you have absolutely no place to comment on it as the comment was not intended for you but for the creator of the video
@@Iris-pz1xf i know u r just fake human being and v knows shetan always plays with human identity so so called smith don't try to misguide muslim
@@sach3656 please shut up. She was lost and she’s been guided and if anything, you should be happy for her.
sorry every hadith isnt true be strong and learn more we are eqaul male or female i wish you the best
Thank you for a reasoned approach to this subject.
May Allah give you a long life Dr Shabir Aly. Ameen.
Being born into a muslim family a child is taught this and thinks its all true because there parents taught it to them and so on with every relgion
We need Scholars like this. Dr. Shabir Ally. Great respect.
May ALLAH reward you.
Few days back , Abdullah Rushdy, an egyption scholar announced a video leagelizing the abuse toward the wife, telling a hadith about the woman who refuse the sexual relationship when her husband calls her will be insulted by engels .
He has a very big effect on the Arabic muslim commuinity, I wish that Dr. Shabir watch it and comment on it because if no one does this logically and from religious point of view, this will continue making more pressure on the muslim women , and will lead more heatred toward Islam and muslims.
Please send him a message or have a discussion with him , Pleeeeeeease.
I agree with you 100%! Muslim men who push this hadith to the max hate women, and they abuse the exemplary character of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him) to make it look like he hated women. Plain and simple. Tragic!
Thank you so much for the explanation and for highlighting some of these weaker hadiths. I always felt some of the hadiths are used in negative ways just to protect individual benefits.
It's good you are promoting it, a good Muslim should always think and ponder over the outlandish hadiths attributed to our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Definitely, women deserve a very respectable place in society as well as in a family.
Some Hadiths are too ridiculous to believe
Agree
That's y I dn't look much into it
But there is no islam without hadiths. Even Quran is a hadith. All hadiths of Hafs are rejected by all ustadz/scolars of islam. But current Quran is also a hadith of Hafs. Logical answer is to reject both. Please watch arabian prophet channel.
You mean like this one?
Sahih al-Bukhari: 5068
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.
Simply because they're pure fabrications and manipulations, even if they're labelled as authentic.
This man is the Hope for Islam
Dr Ally always gives a balanced and educated view. We need more scholars like him who maturely address women's issues.
took a balanced approach! used context !
It seems its always interpret as it is needed and used as its needed. But if some uses it to prove something is wrong, immediately all run to say you read it wrong, you interpret it wrongly. There is nothing to interpret it is written as it is.
Thank you!!
We postrate only allah...tht hadith going against quran so unauthentic....No my sister never bow down ur hubby...he is nt superior coz quran said man n women equal n no one superior one another...ttly against quran...i count as a blashphemy😡😡
Wow superb...
Quran was meant to be preserved. Prophets' followers took it seriously and they were people who learnt entire Quran by heart, passed on to next generation and finally was made in to written scripture. Hadith does not have such history. It was written by few and that too almost 300 years after Prophets death. So at least 6 generations had already passed and when it was passed on to the author, it was individual perception of events and saying of prophets. Total authenticity of hadith is in question since followers did not care for it to be preserved unlike the Quran.
Dr Shabir Ally is my favorite scholar
The last sermon of the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w reminds us that Muslim women must be protected. Many rights of women are recognised in Islam. For instance, Islam is the first religion which recognises the right of a wife to seek for dissolution of marriage.
The woman if not married is entitled to receive maintenance from her father and brothers until she marries. Upon, marriage, the duty is vested to the husband. Any money and property earn belong to her exclusively. Any inheritance received belongs to her exclusively.
If the woman has talents which benefit the community, we must promote her. This is what the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w did to Sayidatina Aishah r.a who was one of the greatest Islamic jurists.
In essence, the main concern is cultural definition of women roles which may be inline or not with Islam.
Respect this scholar !!
The wife prostrating to the husband seems like it was infleuned by someone who was Hindu cause they believe a husband is akin to God??? The Prophet (pbuh) said women are the twin halves of men so why would he suddenly tell people to prostrate ??????
Not just Hindu, most polytheists believe in nonsense like that. Remember that the most common religion(s) in the early days of Islam were polytheistic ones, so don't underestimate their cultural influence on Muslims. That's why I don't trust these hadith demeaning to women
@@robotnitchka absolutely right !!! Thats the beauty of Islam. We dont bow our head down for a king, ruler, or husbands. IT ONLY TO THE ONE TRUE GOD !!!!!!!
Yes, my thoughts exactly. "Pati parmeshwar ke siwa hum ko na parmeshwar chahiye"
@@rianamohamed300 right sister 😂😂
you are right
I have a question: How then can one determine which Hadith is authentic since every person might or might not feel herslef/himself comfortable with some ahadith. If you could please clarify that. Thank you for your work!
I know this is an old question but to answer you, a hadith is considered authentic mainly because there is a clear chain of narration. Like, Person A heard from Person B who heard from Person C who heard from Person D who heard from the Prophet (SAW). The people in the chain have to be trustworthy and there can't be any gaps in the chain, as in if Person B has not been identified, for example. Another condition is that it can't contradict the Quran.
Focus on the quran
Your videos open my mind to Islam. I slowly dissect some issues that used to concern me a lot. Ones that would definitely make me reject this religion, as I don't believe true God would force people to do something so irrational. True religion should be universal, easy to follow and understand. It's good Islam starts to be free of different cultural influences, that arose around it during it's existance
I love Dr shabeer may Allah bless him. It's better that he discuses these topics and get clarification from learned people rather than than ex muslims or islamaphobes
Thank you, Dr Shabir Ally, for helping women revert to Islam and by keeping women in Islam who may be feeling oppressed due to those around her exercising these degrading statements and with sexist misogynistic culture. This helps women who are feeling confused and hurt and may lose parts of their faith. True islam is fair and loving to all, and punishes only those who commit crimes, fairly.
Ya Allah.. Please guide all of us... Ameen...
The author of Quran says
56.35-Verily, We have created them of special creation.
this was thought ahead before Bukhari was born
Allah knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, but they do not encompass it in knowledge-20.110
Basically this was answered before those hadiths were made
If people could have made up gods and their own religon then making up a few narrations isnt a big deal lol !!!! dont trust all hadiths even some from Sahih
You don't know God is real? All those people saw God on mount Sinai. Everyone knows about Jesus its all true
@@voidremoved can u prove god isnt real? Just saying u cant see God isnt a valid exuse anymore? Lol none of the prophets saw God in islam so i dont where u are getting ur info from?
@@voidremoved You know i dont care about ur opinion right?
@@voidremoved are u saying God isnt real but jesus is ?
This is why I follow God and God alone.
PEOPLE !!!! Please dont believe all hadiths pleasee!!!!! Some contradict each other so much !!! In one Hadith its talks about how Umar(RA) beats his wife like dont u think the Prophet(pbuh) would have prohibited umar from doing so and Umar(RA) was the one who said "women are not garments and should not be used accoridng to how u like. THEY ARE TO BE HONORED AND HAVE THEIR RIGHTS" !!!! How can a man who said this could have beat his wife??????? DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!!!
Preach 👊😔💓 well said
He’s one of the only Muslim scholars that has bravely come out to say this the rest are too scared or are in denial. They follow the man made Hadith blindly.
great video!!
Hazrat umar said Islam can be destroy by the mistake of scholars. scholars have Compiled and graded hadith without major concern except sahih and bikhari hadith. Other than this hadith one can find so many fabricated hadith in the name of authenticity.
all knowledge. wonderful
Can you please clarify the confusion in the aya regarding the penalty for stealing, because it says hands as in all their hands, instead of both their hands, thank you.
This a literary way of mantioning .. not literal.
Explanation by practice by Prophet.
@@drmazam Mohamed, i read the above link. it does not appear to agree with you regarding being "not literal". it mentions that cutting the hands off is one of many possibilities; it mentions that if the person repents before he is found guilty that he should not have his hands cut off. it does not say that Allah is completely against it. It then goes on to try and interpret what "cut" means. i was told that we are not allowed to make our own interpretations of the Quran but to obey directly what it says. this makes sense as otherwise there would be no consistency in Islam. i believe that if Allah decreed in the Quran to "cut" someones hands off, it means exactly that. to believe otherwise opens the door for people to change the meaning of verses to better suit their own beliefs.
You have more than 2 hands?
@@Toolgdskli lol, i have a lot of questions!! it is very telling that very few of the muslims here will step up and help me with those questions. none so far have actually answered anything. they have only disagreed with each other about the hadiths
Brothers in the faith. The Hadif is a measure to limit woman from the freedoms they deserve as equal compliments too the male counterparts. I'm a firm believer that woman have just an equal role in the pursuance of spiritual truths. This doesn't only state in dress or attire but the administration of duties of Imans in Mosque. Always remember Allah created men and women as helpers for one another's successful outcomes. Helpers and compliments work together in unison as a coercive unit in togetherness. I have always been a defender, support and a friend too those fellow sisters whom there's been a unique relationship in intimate forethoughtfulness as a understanding compliment in shared visionary perspectives. I feel as do so many other woman that one's body is a precious temple in terms of the Amighty. Men need too respect them as equals and not as sexual objects for their personal enticement. The hair covering is meant to not arouse impure thoughts from men. A woman's hair connotes towards other areas of a females body that might cause men's advancement in forms of harassment. In certain Muslim dominated cultures unfair practices are seen in subjectifying woman in extreme hot weathered climates to harsh principles of total clothing including veiled faces and full length clothing. In fact it's a means of extreme measures of torture likened towards Asian dynasties that bonded the feet of woman in cutting of the circulation towards reducing feet growth which was considered as unattractiveness too their fellow male counterparts. So these and other measures from a vast diaspora of regional areas are manipulative tactics of limiting the progressive aims of the conservative Muslim woman's rights as conjoined member communities as equal educators in pursuance of spiritual truths. I believe in unity in mind and thought from all members in societal structures encompassing diverse backgrounds especially from those I share a unique unioned fellowship. Women are the main source of my strength and integrity of remaining a Guardian for their rights and advancement in life. These principles were inculcated in me from my Maternal Mother and sister Siblings but most importantly the woman I love so dearly that is a constant thought each day even when we're apart in different houses of dwelling spaces. I await anxiously for her arrival each day with loving expectations. Men always remember the woman your blessed in conjoined fellowship unioned relationship and the pursuit of objectives as relative equally visionary paths of togetherness. Never subjectify them to cruel standards you would never personally except as a norm in your own life. Treat your blessed mate's as instrumental partners in establishing goals and objectives for increased awareness that although we're made differently physically but our mental capacity reflects and exemplifies spiritual truths of maturity in terms of togetherness. Please remain in faith, hope and love. All in pursuance in the exquisite delight in the abundance of peace for all our precious midst communities.
Well said, dear brother! Alhamdulillah!
So the hadith of 'More women in hell' is true? I am asking as this was not mentioned and this is categorized as Sahih.
It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)
can someone explain at 7.38? please it would be really mean a lot tome
Our biggest is issue is haddeet which give birth to figh which resulted in islamic denominations like Suni, Shia and wahabi..
Koran says best hadeet is Koran
So.... not every Hadith in Bukhari is authentic.
I Never believe in a hadith unless it agrees with the quran if its a hadith that does not have any relationship with th quran i reject it
Okay, the hadith about the puss is da'eef and the one about sujood is hasan but it is not sahih. However, the hadith about travelling with a mahram. This hadith is authentic and is recorded in Bukari and Muslim. I don't understand where you found that this hadith is degrading to women when it was specifically about keeping them safe and it is to protect her from a non-Mahram who would approach her to harm her. Fear Allah br. Shabir. Don't start grading hadith when this is not your place.
But nowadays travelling is not same like before? You go in Plane where sooo many People are. Its not like you go alone with a camel or horse through land and mountain where bandits can kidnapp you.
Hadiths are like the bible. Written “based” on “sayings” with many contradictions. We always say this about the bible yet we also refer to hadiths written way past the Prophet’s (pbuh) times and it really makes Quran confusing for people
How would we know how to perform prayers if we didn’t have Hadiths?
Hadeeths are historical records collected by people of later generations so it can't be word of prophet always.hadeeth should be understood with Qur'an not vice versa.quran and sunna reached us without hadeeths.
Abu Dhar said, "I was with the Prophet (SAW) one day and I heard him saing: "There is something I fear for my Ummah than the Dajjal." It was then that I became afraid, so I said: " Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is that?" He (SAW) said; "Misguided and astray scholars."
Recorded in Musnad Imam Ahmad (no.21,334 and no.21,335). Sheikh Shu'ayb al Arna'ut graded it sahih li ghayri (authentic due to corroborating narrations) in his tahqiq of the Musnad (1999 ed., 35:21,296-97).
Al Tirmidhi (no.2229) and others record the following hadith:
And Allah knows best.
Yes, this hadith refers to scholars who compiled these anti women hadiths
@@mymuslimthoughts6903 what a fool you are.
May Allah SWT guide you.
The fool is you
@@mymuslimthoughts6903 for being a good Muslim, so be it.
You can assume you are on the right path and others are misguided, but it only makes you look like a bigger fool
english is not my language. can someone pls explain what his points is? these hadists are not authentic? pls answer
Yeah, this scholar thinks these hadiths are NOT authentic. But these hadiths are considered as 'sahih (authentic)' by most of the traditional scholars. I dont know if this scholar is realiable cause he sounds like he just reject these hadiths and sugar coat the situation. I am searching explanation for these hadiths. I am really upset because of them.😑
@@cansugungor4405 but shabir ally is a professional scholar tho, i think he knows best which is sahir or not, if the most scholars think that some of those hadith are authentic I'm pretty sure they have their own arguement, and also looking for the truth is not by the quantity, but the quality. i mean dr shabir ally has debate with the non muslims, he memorize all of those books (holy books, hadith books etc) so i think it depends of us, which one you want to choose, which opinion u want to choose.btw jazakallahu khairan for the response
@@cansugungor4405 I think that is very honest of you. Please keep searching and also try reading the Bible - especially the new Testament part. You may be surprised by what you learn.
Addressing ' Ataa Al-Khurasaanee, Wahb bin Munabbah said : "The scholars before you sufficed with their knowledge doing without the world besides them, they used not to pay attention to the people of the dunya nor with what was in their hands; the people of the dunya used to offer them their worldly possessions desiring their knowledge; today the people of knowledge have come to offer their knowledge to the people of dunya, desiring their dunya, and the people of the dunya have come to renounce their knowledge when they saw the evil sources from where it was coming. So beware O 'Ataa of the doors of the rulers, for their within their doors is fitna like that of the camel pen; you will not affect their dunya in anything except that your deen will be affected similarly"
Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah (9/295)
@@suaydibrahym718 Suayd, do you truly believe this statement of yours? "Yes, in general intellectually stronger than women in Worldy aspects. This is proven from worldly experiences"
can you point out an example of how this has been proven from worldly experiences.
i am no feminist but this seems a bit ridiculous to me.
@@suaydibrahym718 no hadith says men and intellectually stronger than women
Then why there's no hadith that degrades men,are you a god🤔
The nature of Quran is so different than hadith. But then there are hadith that teach us the basic things like how to offer Salah. Highly confusing.
how can they be proved
Did he say a hadith is degrading to women?
Yes now I'm questioning the authencities of this imam
@@sumanmiah8840 Suman, i agree that some of these things may not have been considered "degrading" in 7th century arabia, but are you saying that there are no hadiths that appear degrading now in the 21st century?
@@sumanmiah8840 Why? Do you think all haith are true?
@Herry Gerry Can't stand abu Hurayra. He's just "off."
Yes and that is because it is ... I am not a person with “ half an intellect “ and do you really think our dear lovely prophet would actually go up to a women and tell her “ you have half a brain and half a religion ? “ !!! If so you need to learn more about him
I have a lot respect of Dr Ally. He seems to be trying to be honest about some problems in Islam, such as the place of women, or the videos he did about the Quran having variants. That said I think he fails and in fact throws a light on these issues. To hear that there are more problem Hadiths than positive ones. To imply that scholars were influenced in their decisions on what were good Hadiths and which ones were poor hadiths by the times they were in and what was acceptable at the time throws into doubt all of the system used. How do we know which are correct. Muslims today or Muslims from the 9th and 10th centuries.
What is the gist of what he is saying ? ? Does he say that these hadeeths are not authentic ?
He's saying that these hadiths really prove the misogyny in Islam. "Outlandish misogyny".
No Hadith verses expect the Inauthentic hadith is problematic
Please watch arabian prophet channel with arabic speaking native with university degree on islamic law. Reference shown in front of you from official sources.
The most misunderstood topics of Hadith , so often loudly preached by many local preachers. The limitations of knowledge and fear to challenge such preaching for common man.. largely misleading the practice in Muslim societies.
Let me summarize the video. The hadith which cannot be defended as modern world values
is a weak hadith. It does not matter from which source it comes from.
Oh wow so how u see hadith ....sources matter bcs hadith have travelled from 610 A.D to 800 A.D ....so
His source is Israr Ahmed Khan?
Nor doth he speak of (his own) desire. Quran 53.3
This was thought ahead
Surely but other people can say with their own desire too and by the way he not himself made all hadeeth to be noted in a text rather he doesn't even rectify majority of hadeeth
I think by That it's meant, when he was reciting to Koran
We can’t judge Hadith based on our logic. Logic varies between every person and every generation and Islam is perfected to fit all generations until the day of judgement. We judge Hadith based on their authenticity and the interpretations of the scholars based on the favorite 3 generations. Not Dr. Ally or what we believe we find “degrading”.
This is a religion of submission not logic.
If it contradicts with the Quran then it doesn’t matter if it’s “authentic” or not.
@@Lol-wm9xd whether or not it contradicts the Quran or not is up to the scholars because a layman’s understanding can think it is contradicting the Quran when in reality it’s their lack of knowledge
@@MohamedMohamed-mu6vn scholars aren’t always right
@@Lol-wm9xd when one scholar makes a mistake the others are there to correct it
Ex Muslim here. I believe Islam is bs (Quran and Hadith included) but back when I was a Muslim I would reject Dr. Shabir's position because I would say that just because hadith don't fit with one's morals does not allow the person to reject God and his messenger's teachings
He's not advising to reject the a prophet's teachings, he's advising that some of these teachings mentioned in some of these recordings can't be considered as legitimate, and doesn't think the prophet would have said those things.
A mistake in narrative sources ..
Problems arise when a person becomes subservient to scriptures and clerics
By extension then any Hadith that seems "problematic" should be thrown out by lay persons despite 1400+ years of scholarly endeavor. This is exactly what destroyed christianity. Shabir knows it. Only Allah knows why he's doing this... Allah guide him and guide us all
He is saying some 'hadiths' are problematic, not the Qur'an. We are supposed to uphold the Qur'an; nothing else which can be manipulated by humans.
@@farzanarimi2763 well Quran preservation requires hadith because it explains it. The same method of transmission that brought us the Quran is what brought us the hadith.
The more I listen to Muslim teachers like this guy the more I understand why Nabeel Qureshi and other Muslims converted to Christianity.
What do you mean?
Apparently the guy that you said wasn’t Muslim and lied about it
@@Badjuda Nabeel Qureshi was a Muslim and did not lie about it. You are ignorant and if you are Muslim I am not surprised. LOL
What about women can't go to graves yet sheikh albani said that Prophets Muhammad wife aisha went to her brothers grave to pay her respects to her elder brother.
There many people who think of Dr. Shabir Ally as a deviant scholar because of his relaxed view on certain strict rulings. I wonder who is correct.
The Follower of Islam tend to stick with something unQuranic because they relied the Scholar and the Leader of Islam too much and follow anything by their Leader blindly without Questioning them. Why? Because the follower especially the villager thinks imam, sheikh, ulama, ustaz, etc as pious person that made not a mistakes. The Follower even gone too far as even said the religious person is not touched by sin.. And even worse some sincere believer fall to the abyss of idolatry because of heart that long for goodness but adoring the God's creation and even asking their leader to pray for them while they may pray themselves, God is All Hearing and far from Deaf. God's know what was hidden inside their chest.
I myself once thinks Quran is not complete and need a Hadith to explain the detail while the Quran denied this fact since the Quran claim the Book itself is Perfect as a sole guidance and reasoning for those who use their thinking..
Just to name few unspeakable act from Muslim's religious scholar that made the Hadith as priority while Quran is number 2.. They even as far to say whoever disbelieve Hadith is Kafir while the Quran claims those who reject the Quran is Kafir which contradicts the religious leaders saying.
Even worsening they even say the average person has no right to talks about religion which is contradicts the Quran that encourage every reader to use AQL (thinking, reasons). The reason mainly because the average person don't understand Arabic and may in the wrong path by relying on translation which once again contradicts their action by making the Hadith as priority and source inside of Islam.
Another error they made is to reject any quotation Made by honest person that has learned the truth, and even go far to misinterpret the meaning of Quran by relying Hadith that has no place in Quran to be mentioned but Invention according to Quran. They even went above to say whoever sharing surah from the Quran is not on the right path but the Hadith follower is on the right path. Again, the only Hadith that Allah approved is the Quran itself, not another source as a sole guidance.
On Jumaat Solat, the imam always warn the audience not to believe a person that follow the Quran, they said this is a new religion. It is shocking to heard this myself. Why the person who rely on Quran is guilty and at fault? Doesn't the Quran encourage every reader to think and learn and study the Quran and reason with the content inside of Quran? After that, wasn't the Quran said the reader may choose to believe or reject the Quran and at the same time offer a blissful reward for the believers while the rejector will be punished on fire?
Strangely why almost all of our religious scholar teach the follower like that?
Isn't not they claim themselves as a Muslim and even Did testify that they Believe in Quran and not the Hadith?
If we are following One God, surely we just only need the Quran as a guidance.
And you have the right to choose and decide which one is the True Path if you are being HONEST to Yourself!
There is no way out of the hadith madness.
Allah revealed his own words, that need a collection of rumors to be understood (and the Bible too). 😮
As Muslims we have to stop play around and speak from both side of our mouth. DR Shabir is another scholar who is caught in between. Why dont we refer to Quran to get our answers Quran has mentioned Hadith several times and forbids you from following them except from احسن الحدیث wich is Quran irself. We should though away and reject all Hadith all at once and hold holly Quran that is the word of Allah and preserved by him as the only source of our religious law and guidance.
Let the Quran speak:
"You are forbidden.. married women, except those whom you own as slaves."
"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them, and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them."
As I watch western Islamic “scholars “ it makes me laugh watching these folk be palatable to the western world . Please stick to debating Christian’s.
First of all the title let the quran speak is inappropriate because I don't hear quran, rather I hear opinions. Surely the dr. Is eloquent but not a scholar. Thirdly, this program is dealing with only what seems to be controversial issues thus creating confusion to the most who know something next to nothing about the basics. Pls if you have questions ask the scholars. Don't take Islamic knowledge from Havard or Yale .( orientalist) rather ask the scholars if Don't know . May Allah guide us all. Amin.
I don't like it!
He uses his limited narrow opinion to reject hadiths of the prophet.
we all know what website he's talking about haha
mufti abu layth talks about all this hadiths and Show the isnad and it's fake
What the fucj with that last name Ally? I thought it’s Ali.
So that means niqaab is not farz and sunnat also women can wear whatever colours they like!!!
Shaikh Nasrudin Albani said niqab is not obligatory. Yusuf al-qardhawi explained it that it is mubah. It just part of the culture at the time.
I don't know any hadith about women can't wear colorful clothes though. I think there is none.
You can wear whatever you want as long as it is fulfill Allah's command at al ahzab(33):59 and an-noor(24) : 31.
You should wear an outer garment that covers your "juyub" means your hair and chest.
@@muhammadjoshua7464 Mohammad, how do you determine what was meant for the culture at that time (7th century arabia) and what needs to be followed today? i was told that the quran is eternal and that everything in it is everlasting. doesnt this mean that everything in it needs to be followed today?
if you are allowed to say that something only applied to the culture of the 7th century, why can you not apply this thinking to anything in the hadiths. maybe all of it only applied to 7th century arabs.
how do you know the difference?
thanks
@@maxq4958 well there are two things. 1. Quran. It is eternal and all the things mentioned are to be strictly followed. Quran focusses on broader aspects of life including, rulings on important subjects which are meant for smooth running of a society. Quran doesnt discuss any such topics which are cultural based and subject to changes. e;g Quran discusses what food is halal or permissible. however, quran doesnt mention how to eat like use hands or spoon, or fork whatever. That type of information we get mostly from Prophet muhammad's (PBHM) personal life. So there is no dispute on what Quran mentions. The differences occur only in Hadees. Well the problem with Hadees is multiple people saw prophet Muhammad doing the same thing and they related what they saw in different contexts. that is why we have multiple chain of narrations. Again the chain can be weak or strong. E;g the hadees narrated by very close companions and wives are considered Strong hadees and there are no doubts about that. A lot of hadees are from who were the enemies or from very far sources.such hadees are called weak hadees. The collectors of hadees who compiled them into books were not that critical about the sources. So they included almost all the narrations. It is for the later scholars to debate on the huge data base they left.
On one hand You have dr ally and the likes of him and on the other hand you have some self proclaimed CZcams sheikhs like Noouman and Yasir qadi.
Easy - trash all hadiths, they are not from Allah as a source of religious guidance.
They are.
@@mohamudahmed6554 They are dubious literature collected more than 200 years after the prophet, nothing sent down by Allah.
@@nestcanz Ok so when was the Quran written? There is not a single Quran from the 7th century to this day.
So basically, following your logic Muslims should abandon the Quran as well.
See how this Hadith rejection gets you?
@@mohamudahmed6554 Quran is not ink & paper :) Taking hadiths as a secondary source of religious guidance is an act forbidden by Quran.
[Quran 6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?
@@nestcanz Neither is Hadith i.e speech/narration. Hence it is called حديث. It is narrated. So what you earlier said is irrelevant, the Hadith is not ink and paper either.
Since the oldest Quran is from the 8th century and so are the oldest collection of Hadith, you literally can leave the Quran. The same reason you reject Hadith, the same reason should be applied to the Quran using your logic.
You literally refuted yourself, twice 👏👏👏 Congratulations.
FYI, we know the entire Quran was written by the Sahaba 2 years after the Prophets ﷺ death. You don't, you don't even know who the Sahaba are. We have chains of narrations (10 in total) from the Quran going back to the Rasul ﷺ and multiple in Hadith. That is how Islamic knowledge is preserved.
" *He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah* ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian."
Surah An Nisa v 80
"Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you) We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad ) of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Quran) and *sanctifying you* ,and *teaching you the Book* (the Quran) and *the Hikmah* (i.e. Sunnah, Islamic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and *teaching you that which you used not to know* ."-
2:151
Surah An Nahl verse 44 ( interpretation of the meaning)
"With clear signs and Books (We sent the Messengers). And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad ) the reminder and the advice (the Quran), *that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought* ."
Don't quote random verses from the Quran when you do not know the Quran or even basic arabic.
I don't have time to lecture you anymore. You refuted yourself and there is no reason why i should convince and non Muslim about something so clear. Either accept Islam or don't, it is up to you.
Bye.
Ladies. Release you from male tyranny. You are free individs.
Its a fact every muslim i have talk to says the Bible is corrupted and like i said i ask what and where in the bible is it corrupted and please prove it to me no even one can show me see muslims have to say this because other wise they would have to question there quran and omg they dont want to do that ,all relgions are base on fear if you dont do this your going to hell and many humans say that and teach that when the real judge is God himself no one has the room to say your going to hell leave to God
Women rights lol
I think we should also take the so called balanced approach towards this ayah from the Qur'an
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 282:
"يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا تَدَايَنتُم بِدَيْنٍ إِلَىٰ أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى فَاكْتُبُوهُ وَلْيَكْتُب بَّيْنَكُمْ كَاتِبٌ بِالْعَدْلِ وَلَا يَأْبَ كَاتِبٌ أَن يَكْتُبَ كَمَا عَلَّمَهُ اللَّهُ فَلْيَكْتُبْ وَلْيُمْلِلِ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِ الْحَقُّ وَلْيَتَّقِ اللَّهَ رَبَّهُ وَلَا يَبْخَسْ مِنْهُ شَيْئًا فَإِن كَانَ الَّذِي عَلَيْهِ الْحَقُّ سَفِيهًا أَوْ ضَعِيفًا أَوْ لَا يَسْتَطِيعُ أَن يُمِلَّ هُوَ فَلْيُمْلِلْ وَلِيُّهُ بِالْعَدْلِ وَاسْتَشْهِدُوا شَهِيدَيْنِ مِن رِّجَالِكُمْ فَإِن لَّمْ يَكُونَا رَجُلَيْنِ فَرَجُلٌ وَامْرَأَتَانِ مِمَّن تَرْضَوْنَ مِنَ الشُّهَدَاءِ أَن تَضِلَّ إِحْدَاهُمَا فَتُذَكِّرَ إِحْدَاهُمَا الْأُخْرَىٰ وَلَا يَأْبَ الشُّهَدَاءُ إِذَا مَا دُعُوا وَلَا تَسْأَمُوا أَن تَكْتُبُوهُ صَغِيرًا أَوْ كَبِيرًا إِلَىٰ أَجَلِهِ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَقْسَطُ عِندَ اللَّهِ وَأَقْوَمُ لِلشَّهَادَةِ وَأَدْنَىٰ أَلَّا تَرْتَابُوا إِلَّا أَن تَكُونَ تِجَارَةً حَاضِرَةً تُدِيرُونَهَا بَيْنَكُمْ فَلَيْسَ عَلَيْكُمْ جُنَاحٌ أَلَّا تَكْتُبُوهَا وَأَشْهِدُوا إِذَا تَبَايَعْتُمْ وَلَا يُضَارَّ كَاتِبٌ وَلَا شَهِيدٌ وَإِن تَفْعَلُوا فَإِنَّهُ فُسُوقٌ بِكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَيُعَلِّمُكُمُ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
O you who believe! When you contract a debt for a fixed period, write it down. Let a scribe write it down in justice between you. Let not the scribe refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so let him write. Let him (the debtor) who incurs the liability dictate, and he must fear Allah, his Lord, and diminish not anything of what he owes. But if the debtor is of poor understanding, or weak, or is unable himself to dictate, then let his guardian dictate in justice. And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her. And the witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (for evidence). You should not become weary to write it (your contract), whether it be small or big, for its fixed term, that is more just with Allah; more solid as evidence, and more convenient to prevent doubts among yourselves, save when it is a present trade which you carry out on the spot among yourselves, then there is no sin on you if you do not write it down. But take witnesses whenever you make a commercial contract. Let neither scribe nor witness suffer any harm, but if you do (such harm), it would be wickedness in you. So be afraid of Allah; and Allah teaches you. And Allah is the All-Knower of each and everything."
One man witness equal to two women witness, because one woman may forget.
I'm glad this wasn't a hadith because I'm sure Dr. Shabbir would have taken his so called balanced approach and disregarded this as degrading women and these liberals who believe this narrative would have applauded.
Such hypocrisy!
We should beleive in Islam rather then trying to pick and choose as we like.
Not here to argue, but before you slander someone and accuse them of denying the Qur'an, it would be wise to check their whole body of work. He has an entire video devoted to this verse, and he approached it respectfully and in context. He neither denied the authenticity of the verse nor disavowed it. He simply explained a few reasons why it is said in the Qur'an as well as how Muslims can act in regards to the specific revelation today. 🌚
@@murayohashi9734 so is this verse indicating that a woman is more likely to be forgetful than a man? is this because a woman's brain is inferior to that of a mans? if not, why is she more forgetful?
This is exactly why we reject hadith ... god says that the only thing that is not tampered with is the quran ... not the hadith .... do you really think that the prohet would go to a women and reel her you are with half a brain ? If so you need to learn more about our prohet