Women as Legal Witnesses | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- In our series on Controversial Issues related to women, we turn our attention to the role of women as witnesses in the Islamic context. I’ve often heard that when it comes to women serving as witnesses, two women are required in the place of one male. Is this true? We sit down with Dr. Shabir Ally and learn more!
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A woman like Khadijah(RA) would equal to 10 men lol in matters regarding business so i really think it is about experience!!!
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@Yotchat Margui both!
@Taimoor Khan Quran statement is about general women who do not deal with money transaction most of the time
Yes it IS about experience in business. Something most wimen do not like to have. That's why God has given the responsibility to their close relative men. If THEY fail in their responsibility, they will stand before God on the day of judgement for failure in their responsibility
@@farzanatasneem its not about buisness actually , it's about about debt and loan
Finally, I found a good and logical answer to this question. Subhanallah!
Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
@Aar Somali yeah. Men and women aren't equal lol. Islam doesn't take them as equal sure to their differences.
@@quintuslentulus6183 out of context
@Somali Waaqale just because women will have wealth from her husband too
@@russ8156 ok, then you put in the context? Tell me what is the full context
Actually there are cases where men witnesses are not accepted at all only woman witnesses are accepted and that is in the case of (breadfeeding from the same mother ) , so we can know from this its not a gender superiority issue , but its context related issue to make sure the truth and justice are protected.
Thank you. A very good explanation and sounds very logical
Thank you! This clears the dust
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You people are doing a great job. Keep it up.
Amazing commentary Dr. shabir. You are a brilliant mind.
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One has to be brilliant to be deceptive and convincing to construct an appealing presentation of Islam.
Like a brilliant lawyer.
Don't be swindled by Islam.
The one true God who gave you life and can save you from death is waiting for you.
Don't patronize me and don't turn this into a personal rant against Dr. Shabir.
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Why are you Muslim?
@@earthtones1138 so many reason
I love the answer!!! Seems logical to me!!!
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Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
@Great Khan No because Allah said so
People are forgetting that most narrations of haidths came from the wives of the Prophet(pbuh) mostly Aisha(RA) People relied on their narrations soley !!!! Plus if ALLAH wanted two women to equal to one man in all situations, he would have just said in all situations. He mentions business contracts for a reason !!!!!
The womens witness rule for contracts is in the Quran, its not a hadith. The problem is that in Islamic jurisprudence some literalist scholars use their principle of qiyas (analogical reasoning) to generalize the womens witness rule to other situations.
@@roberthannah7983 Actually Qiyas is forbidden by the first Muslims as it takes one away from original command
@@m.waheedanwar7105 We would have to scrap a lot of fiqh, but that would not bother me.
JazakaAllah Dr. Ally for your comprehensive answer and the world needs scholars like you particularly in conservative societies such as Afghanistan✌️
Agreed 💯
Dr Shabbir Ally is a great scholar
How do we decide which verse is universal and which verse only circumstantial, especailly when it hasnt been mentioned? Because this explaination is given alot. Shouldnt it be said at least that this is applicable in this circumstance only?
We don’t decide judgments otherwise it would be subjective and this would give way to misinterpretation of the Quran and sunnah. The commentary of the Quran and sunnah already explains how we should apply these texts. The commentary is the explanation by the prophet and his companions and their understanding. We shouldn’t be taken the Quran and sunnah to decide whether it’s time specific or not. That question is already answered in the commentary a.k.a Tafsir.
when u read more n more then u get to know about these excuses , today in modern world it is getting very hard to hide these things for scholars so they invent new things every time
Common sense
Excellent ❤❤❤
I did. Thanks.. sister. Love you
I really liked your answer, it was very informative and well put. Thank you for showing us the real Quran and Islam.
However, I wanted you to elaborate more about the passages that was only revealed for specific time and situation (hence the business transaction) that we shouldn't follow it literally in our modern times.
What makes you think that there are indeed passages that only about certain time?
Like how do we differentiate? Does it depends on the tone and the context for example?
Hope to really know because I enjoy learning more about the real Quran that isn't influenced by anyone or pre-interpreted.
Thank you Dr. Shabir.
There are situations that did not occur in the time of Muhammad(pbuh) and thus were not resolved by a revelation. But it happens today and, folowing the traditional view, we are made to ask ulemas for answers. Those ulemas will use Quran then hadiths then past occurences to give us a response. It is clear that some matters were related to the time of the prophet.
I guess the answer I'd that the general rule is that majority of the Qur'an is relevant for all time although there may be some passages that may be in a certain context or maybe time relevant. We differentiate this based on individual circumstances that may arise and let the scholars of Islam do this part since they would be more knowledgeable. not any average joe can do this. Hope that answers your question :)
This can be seen in the quran itself, but the context should be studied thoroughly though. The example of this aya in surat al-baqarah: you should know what surat al baqarah is talking about, what is its maqsid (goal it wants to lead the muslim to), and how it explains that maqsid. Following out of this, is the aya part of the maqsid or is it giving examples which illuminate what direction the maqsid goes to?
As for surat al baqarah, it tells about the mistakes the previous muslims (jews and christians) made, and the maqsid of the surah is thus warning muslims of not making the same mistakes. To make clear how to understand this maqsid, Allah tells us what one should or should not believe, and how to act in our daily life on these beliefs. Then He illuminates the subject of spending money; it can be mandatory (eg zakat), rewarded and good (eg sadaqah and spending on orphans), forbidden (eg riba), hated (eg being too greedy), or just mubah; and for this last one the aya of business (ayat ad-dayn) is given in which the 2 women are given in place of 1 man). So from looking at the entire context of this surat one can extract that this verse is referring to an example, and as thus can not be generalised.
Then, to make sure that we understand this aya correctly, we should do taqrir (taking all ayat and ahadith about this subject together) to form a solid, correct view. As for this subject, the shaykh already mentioned the vowing situation in which 1 woman is equal to 1 man. Ulama also agree that for women business (pregnancy and childbirth, menses and breastfeeding eg) one female women outnumbers 1 male. Her testimony is more powerful. So by looking at all this we can indeed say that the aya in surat albaqarah referringcto women's testimony is indeed ONLY a given example, which makes it changeable to times and circumstances. For this reason the linguistic scholar Abu Hayyan wrote in his tafsir on this verse that the arabic word for witness used is 'shaheed' and not 'shaahid', which means it is a superlative. It is not someone who SAW what happened, but one who UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL what happened. It was an expert in this field. So Abu Hayyan says the verse is in fact not referring to male and female, but to experts and amateuristic people. And since commerce at that thime was ruled by men, the example is used as the male expert and the female beginner. But any case in which a female is an expert and a male a layman, the court would need 2 men for 1 woman. So it's in fact just stipulating the difference between people of knowledge and people without thorough knowledge.
Oh and by the way, did you know that the khalifa Umar ibn al-Khattab (who became khalifa 2 years after the death of the prophet Muhammad) made a woman the highest official of the market trade business? So her word was the highest. The Companions themselves knew that this verse was not gender related. It's just the modern world with its concentration on gender related isues that sees it like that.
We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by
Just wow ❤
Not a satisfying answer at all. If woman were not business savvy back then, then an additional woman would not be useful because the transaction would go over both of their heads. In addition, if this was about being business savvy the Quran would have specified that the two men would have to be competent, after all, it is not necessarily true that all men knew how to handle complex transactions. Another issue is that the Quran is literally just talking about a debt for a specified term. A third grader is capable of understanding that sort of a transaction so this can't be about being business savvy, it makes far more sense if it is referring to an inherent difference in intelligence between the two sexes. This understanding is backed by the story Shabir tells of testimony of man and woman in the adultery example. Of course their promises cancel one another out because these promises regarding whether or not they cheated have nothing to do with intelligence, and presumably the loan spoken of in 2:282 does require intelligence which explains the difference in number of witnesses. The fact that it also says that so one can remind the other suggests that a single woman may understand the transaction successfully but due to a memory deficiency she may fail to recall it correctly. This verse is unjustifiable.
Usman012813 Mohamed’s first wife was a business woman. 👍🏼
@jchc VV khadeeja.
Lol 😂 you’re so desperate
@jchc VV ya not the 10 year old..y u r trying so hard to provoke???.😂.
@jchc VV you could have asked whether it is aayisha oru kadhijaa...y are u so eager to point out the age?? Above all ayisha never made a complaint against prophet muhamed in her entire life..al he was intrsted in preaching his teachings even after his death.. If u learn more about the social structure of that time and the life of prophet ,u might get an idea about how feeble your question is..it is a very outdated accusition my dear😁
How nice that humans can decide which verses are for all times and which verses are "time specific"
Quran is for BEST INTERPRETATION for implementing on the society. If a woman of village who has never dealt with such contract is being involved, extra precautions need to be taken.
right? and in a patriarchal society where the men hold ALL of the power, it's the men who get to interpret the verses. works out GREAT for everyone. 🙄
@@calonstanni
Thankfully not in Islamic tradition....as we have lot of female scholarship in our history
@@ather319 In your history? LOTS? nope. No you don't. You have very FEW women scholars and they DON'T have the respect nor hold the sway that them men have, nor have they ever. Islamic tradition has never given women their share of power, education, respect, autonomy, freedom, money...and it's even worse now unless you're a muslim in a christian or secular nation, where we don't force women to live like mushrooms in the dark.
@@ather319 Can you name a single Islamic country where women and non-Islams and gays are 'not' second class citizens?
How do you decide which hadiths or verses are time specific and which are not? Who decides?
Love this guy.
Absolutely…He has so much knowledge that alot of Islamic ‘scholars’ hiding their bigotry with ‘Islam’ might need to learn a thing or two from him…
thanks dr shabbir
This only applies in BUSINESS matters IF there is no written contract between 2 people.
So if a businessman and a businesswoman have a written signed contract between them, there is no need for other witnesses. Both are equal.
But if 1 of them is illiterate, then he needs witnesses to the sale, in case of disputes.
if there is a dispute, then 1 of the witnesses will be called. It doesn't matter if it is the woman or the man. Only if the business people don't agree to this wo/man's testimony, will the other witnesses be called.
If the business people are happy with the testimony from 1 man and 1 woman then there is NO NEED for the 2nd female, whose role is to remind/correct the other female IF she makes a mistake.
But if there is still a dispute then the 2nd woman's testimony will be taken into account and she could overule the man's testimony or the other womans. Her word will be final.
In other much more important matters, we always rely on the testimony of 1 woman alone such as a midwife or a female judge giving rulings or female Doctors / translators / advisors etc etc or MOST IMPORTANTLY, a female hadith scholar teaching men the religion of Islam and this testimony is the greatest of all, and it is perfectly OK for a woman to teach men.
It is well known that biblical law does NOT allow women as witnesses and in cases where the husband accuses his wife, she is deemed guilty until proven innocent.
In the Quran, her word is equal to the man's.
first of all, it says two men witnesses for when a financial contract is signed - not if.
second, nowhere in the quran it says that if the parties are happy with 1 man and woman its all good. it clearly says two muslim men, and 2 women if a man isnt available.
please check your facts before trying to make quran look and seem normal :)
So all of what you said here amounts to merely assertions, and so that which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed. I recommend providing evidence that the Quran is really saying all that instead of what it looks like it's saying.
Question: If Mohammed was doing all the financial transactions and "heavy lifting" for his wife...how was she conducting business before they met? I mean when they married she was already a business woman and she was a bit older than he so she was doing this for a while so.... I dont understand.
@@Hum8L3S3rv4nT Exactly. Not only was she conducting business before they met, she was a very successful businesswoman. This demonstrates that women are just as capable as men in financial matters.
@@brucewayne7875 @Jan yes, she was successful business woman, Islam never stops woman doing business, It is only a preferable choice for woman to stay without any financial responsibility. Man has been asked to care for her in financial matters, it is man's responsibility according to Islamic law. But if she wants to contribute she can do so happily.
While the explanation was right, it sounded defensive. The Holy Quran states the other women is there if the first one forgets (as womens didn't generally partake in financial matters at the time). If she doesn't forget, what happens then? You only need 1 and that should suffice
That actually makes alot of sense, its sad that so many muslims are uneducated on their own faith and dont understand this simple fact. I've heard other muslim women saying its because we're not smart enough in financial matters, misinformation is ruining the ummah.
Ok then why isn't verse followed by "as society progresses, eventually men and when should be equal in witness". At what year does this rule become nullified? It's a subjective thing in a book that is supposed to be objective
Jazak Allah
Is weight in testimony for men and women equal in the Islamic country which run by Sharia?
Ally is using the contextualist approach to interpreting the Quran, which in my opinion is the correct approach, and he provides a reasonable and logical answer. But in Islamic jurisprudence some literalist scholars will use qiyas (analogical reasoning ) to generalize the womens witness rule to other situations. If Ally tried to promote his contextual opinion in Pakistan he would probably be run out of the country with threats to his life on grounds of apostasy (as scholar Fazlur Rahman Malik was.)
Scholars should issue fatwas to repudiate the following hadith, which appears to be general:
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2658
Except that the Hadith needs to be non-genuine in order for that to happen. Sahih Bukhari is considered the most genuine collection of hadith.
@@mikep8071 a lot of Hadith s in Sahih Bukhari are contradictory as well.. look it up…We would need to bring back the practice of ijtihad…Even in Hadith and Quran…it’s expressed that even Prophet’s generation won’t understand about The meaning of Verses in Quran as compared to the further generations.:.. Just like the world…The interpretation of Quran also change and improve…l
@@ithinkiknowme6450 Also, I came across the fact that we dont even have the original writings of Bukhari and Muslim anymore - just some fragments and the narrations in turn of their students.
Even today, there are cases where some female witnesses are intimidated or afraid to be assertive during cross-examination (usually in harassment, assault or domestic violence cases but even in some other cases, etc.) and don't make great witnesses but can improve once they have victim advocates there for their support.
I've tried assault cases with male and female victims. The male victims generally made better witnesses bc they are firm, unafraid of giving their testimony. The female witnesses sometimes would change their mind about testifying last minute or worried what others would think of them, etc.
So it's only part of the Quran that is for all times and all places? Some parts we should leave behind in history? If more and more parts of the quran are left behind, what will be left?
The ethical message.
Hopefully only the good parts and get rid of all the barbaric parts.
@@Crazy88277
The WHOLE Quran.
We will never abandon a single verse of the Qur'an, even if the disbelievers detest.
Glory be to Allah
@@Nasserist1969 crazy guy Nobody detests. Believe what you want. Be as crazy as you want. I’m just trying to help someone live a nice balanced life so they don’t become crazy like you. Take it easy buddy.
@@Crazy88277
Now you are acting all angelic, when in your comment you have offended Islam by calling it 'barbaric '.
Don't act all innocent
I see
Too bad the quran doesn't say "women are equal to men and if men try to bully her the law should prevent that"
Well how do you know this particular verse is time specific? The way it's written is that it's a rule, and Quran is meant to be timeless.
Yes many scholars think this way.
It's timeless but it depends on situation. And many times with time situation also changes so it may appear to be time specific but actually it is not!
@@russ8156 Society evolves and institutions change, but the ethical principles are timeless. Consequently the specific solutions change when the principles are applied to the evolving society.
It needs a lot of time to understand such scholarly knowledge. Just mastering the Arabic language can take you 20 years long. Can't imagine being certified to give legal rulings in Islam.
@@mabrookalayk8277 The womens witness rule in the Quran 2:282 is pretty clear, and it clearly conflicts with the modern approach to gender equality. You do not need to hide behind "scholarship" and "certification". The only reasonable explanation for it is that it was historical and no longer applicable. On "scholarship" - there have been a host of silly fatwas issued over the years by scholars.
Very logical answer but the problem still remains. Quran doesn't mention after everyone of these "out of date" verses that it will remain relevant to all times.
It's a slippery slope where this way, we are picking and choosing and the book becomes confusing.
A simple saying included after the Quran verses as such would go a long way: During the current times, 2 women are considered to 1 men due to inequality of power. But with changing time due women empowerment, they will not require another person to aid them under serious questioning since they are considered equal to the opposite sex.
Muslim world at the most extreme locations, uses the literal statements/verses like these in their benefit to advantage to justify their extreme views. This is 1 of the "few" difficult verses which scholars try not to answer.
If I am god, I would write simple statement rules in a bullet points to follow and talk about the prophets that came. I think religious book complicate following the religion in general.
Anyway, it's the best answer ever responded by a Islamic scholar which is why he's my favorite scholar to listen to.
God bless you Aisha and Dr. Shabir Ally.
We know this verse is time-sensitive because there are two other verses in the Quran which deal with witnesses, both are gender neutral. If it was something wrong with a woman they would not be neutral.
@@alihijazi2655 right! And I also think its part of the test, who will twist the meaning to further their own sexist agendas and who will not.
That's your opinion
I'm sorry but where does he get the idea that some parts of the Quran are valid only back then but not today?
How about slavery, it was allowed and the Quran never forbade, work on that one
common sense
well slavery, marrying your cousin, marrying when puberty hits some kids hit puberty very early), I feel like reasons like this are valid enough
there’s verses in the Quran literally only directly speaking to the prophets wives, that’s for one
@@momay2670 that's different. Particular people die, but concepts (like a witness during a contract agreement) don't
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الحمد لله رب العالمين، والصلاة والسلام على أشرف الأنبياء والمرسلين، نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين....
With due respect, first time I am not satisfied with your explanation. Forgetfulness during and after pregnancy is a common phenomena known as "Preg Head" or "Baby Brain". That is the reason Allah clearly mentioned " If one woman forgets, other will remind". And being pregnant multiple time was a common phenomena on that time. Its even scientifically proved. Henry and Peter Rendell, a memory researcher at the Australian Catholic University in Melbourne, reached their conclusion after examining the memory performance of 412 pregnant women, 272 mothers and 386 non-pregnant females. Pregnant women experienced the worst problems in memory tasks which were more challenging, the authors said in the report published in the Journal of Clinical and Experimental Neuropsychology.
Mariz first of all let me thank you for the wonderful piece of information you shared with us on the issue. I think we need more research on the pregnancy related memory deficiency to reach a solid level, and once that is done a literary and permanent understanding of the related Quranic passage would hold true. On the other hand Dr. Shabir did a good job to enlighten the issue particularly in the light of marital conflict situation in which testimony of both parties is treated as equal. Thanks again for the information and if you have further knowledge on the issue I would be more than grateful to have it.
What if the the other woman also gets pregnant and develops a preg head
What a great answer. Best I heard so far, makes soooooo much more sense. Plus I'm sure it would be pretty frightening to have to be a witness as a woman at that time or even any time except for our modern day women lol so that second woman to support and maybe even remind her of something she might have left off that could be a damaging detail related to the case. Just my opinion not saying this is fact.
@@kindatheist4216 hahahaha very good question we need third one, but wait she might get pregnant too, but sister raised good information but needs solid research
A preg woman doesn't necessarily ALWAYS forget..but she has a higher chance of forgetting.. So the second woman is there JUST IN CASE.. So no u don't need a third one
For me it's simple: Allah gives permission for witness two women instead of one in business contracts.
great sir but please tell me about hadith
That’s the problem with Muslims like salafis today, they don’t understand the time the verses were revealed applied to its historical context it doesn’t mean it applies at all times regardless of circumstances
How to deal with the Jew about the crucifixion.
Finding loopholes in religion...what a shame
I think that it's genuinely not a problem now. Women are just as educated as men, and we shouldn't mix religion with government to the extent of providing benefits to some at the severe expense of others when they are both qualified and skilled. Now we need to abandon old systems, both theocracy and democracy. Monarchies work in the Islamic world, but a heavy, forward thinking councilor form of government, taking the best parts of the American one, namely it's three branches of government are an example of how power can be divided many times, not just 3, something I call "the corridors of power". There could be room for an "In God we trust" sort of theme like the American one, but only if God wants us free, which I firmly believe. We could allow people of all faiths to live and thrive, we could live by the shariah, both Qur'anists and traditionalists, but make it entirely personalized and not political outside Muslim values.
What about the hadith ??
is very simple the answer is because of the mensteration period within and before that period there's a lot of changes and girls know that and it's a regular think so u check the symptoms of the period and decide is better to have only one woman witness on that state or two especially in money transaction and money could cause problems
@@lasadmouissi8276 why unnecessarily bring up menstruation? What's the relevance?
Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Wasn't Mohamed employed by Khadija after she was already a successful business woman? And running errands for her as her employee? Therefore jumping to the conclusion that business is a man's domain because Mohamed was the one running errands for Khadija makes no sense.
You claim this book to be timeless and perfect, yet as you've just demonstrated through this particular verse, it is not timeless (rather time-specific as you stated) and far from perfect. Restricted to business transactions is still discriminatory to women, be it now or in the past. As a leader you should acknowledge these flaws and strive to improve them, rather than defend them and stagnate into irrelevancy.
nabz the Quran is not time specific, but rather conditionally specific for certain circumstances. It just happen to be the case that back then women weren’t as savvy in this matters like today. Although this verse would still apply regardless for example in regions around the world that still lack a lot of education. Similarly goes for the war verses, they would still apply only under the same circumstances they initially were applied for. The conditions must be met to make any judgement and proceed in actions.
@@elhdafnishom499 so you just admitted the Quran isn't timeless since women are now more business savvy
Its timeless We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by
Ridiculous!
this guy tries his best to make quran look better. muhammed said women lack of intelligence too and thats what this verse represent to me.
but the more important part, couldnt allah just make rules for eternity and not just for a special period of time? he could have just put down his rule, no matter if people would follow or not. we shouldnt need to interpret anything. lets face it, if quran is true, allah did a very bad job to explain his creations what he wants us to do. so giving his message for entire world one person only and then never talks to humans again for centuries is the best he came up with....
Ifkr!
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6
“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
“Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:1-9)
Yes indeed... The way to what? To who? To God... To paradise... To eternal life...
Who's the Father? Did Jesus say no one comes to me except thru me???
I believe that woman have strong mind and better memories
Only difference between men and Women.
physically men are stronger.
Aisha too did trading business.
His version is not convincing
Rightly said.
How anyone can say some of Allah's orders are not valid today. As
Muslims, we don't have to seem cuter than we were to the western or modernized people. if anyone says Allah is the only and exact resource of the truth, beauty, and justice then there is already no problem... Allah is above the time, and space Qur'an is valid and necessary at all times. If you are curious about the hikmah of this ayah you may consider women's biology, special days, being pregnant. Being equals doesn't mean justice though.
The ethical messages are eternal, but the solutions to problems depend on the society and culture.
Islam is the religion of Tawhid, no one is able to divide Allah's order, all of Allah's verses are always relevant.
@@halilibrahim4501 Well, I can confidently say that the womens witness rule in finance and contracts Quran 2:282 is no longer relevant. I have worked in finance for 40 years and met many women in my field who are as sharp or sharper than many men.
Is my sister allowed to wear shorts in front of me at home? Is there any point of doing good deeds when you are doing a bad deed?
Mo Juma do you wear shorts in front of her?
Good deeds wipe out bad deeds. Umar Ra said if u have sinned do not leave that place until u have done a good deed
What's wrong with wearing shorts? Iirc in the Quran it states women can show a bit of cleavage and extra skin to male relatives as well as children, while out in public that is highly discouraged if not prohibited.
bro it’s your sister
Bro it’s your sister yes she can
The Quran is a book for all time, all places, then if some verses have historic significance only- the book is then not a revelation and should be put into the recycle bin.
Ohh man ... Revelation of Quranic verses was because of need e.g when there was a need of guidance in any matter Quranic verses were revealed .. And many of them were purely for that time e.g before a war the verses revealed were some how this e.g kill idol worshipers . but does not mean to kill all idol worshipers in the worl but just specific people
@@muhammadsafeernawaz7915 For sure and when Muhammed was horny for his son's wife, boom came a revelation...You guys are just another kettle of fish. You are so so captured in thought.
Hi aysha can i ask are you married ?
Hi mugeez are you Hindu?
@@ninjaman2254 Are you feeling alright?
@@ninjaman2254 this made me laugh ngl😂😂
@@ninjaman2254 what is your point. If Mother Aisha was 6 years old then what . when she got older she never complained about it . not to mention that at that time it was normal to get married with girls of that age ... Hmmm now lets get to sikhism baba guru nanak was a hindu, got intrested in islam about oneness of Allah , but didn't wanted to hurt the feelings of his hindu fellas, he so created a new relegion just based on some beliefs but stop .... Sikhism is not a relegion? Is it? Its just bundle of rules to follow . it have no ideology of ideal relegion . its scripture have no miracles to conform that its WAHE GURU'S word.
@@ninjaman2254 u came here for Blasphemy...why u came here??no one called u??I hv not go sikhism video for doing Negative comment???
Is this u learn from Sikhism????
So-called Westernized Muslim, who will be asked by Angels of death as per Sura Nisa Ayat 97 (Tafsir: MUHSIN KHAN-
Verily! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell - What an evil destination!
This is why i love islam
Quran is outdated..need to have a Edition 2
Doesn't make any sense
No testing like Adam n eve
@@xtreme6018 huh?
It’s to do with loan contracts, business. The women at the time of the prophet (S.A.W) were educated and literate but not all of them, there were plenty of cases where women wouldn’t be literate and would be educated on the matter because not all places put emphasis on educating women. If one of these uneducated women wanted to create a loan contract, a second woman that was educated would be there.
this guy is complete baloney .. so what he means to say is that at the time of revelation back in 710 AD, GOD did not have any foresight that both men and women would sometime in future be considered equal ??
“A woman called as a witness would have been unusual”... what a fraud...
Allah SWT uses Meryeme AS as an example to refute this clown.
Our prophet Muhammad SAWS WORKED for his wife, he was her sales agent. Do not create social sexual imbalance where there isn’t any, just a limited understanding of human nature.
I thought Quran was for all Ages and word of Allah.
Seems like we will soon have a new prophet with teachings for 21st century. :)
Some rules r applied based on the circumstances at the time and some rules r always applied regardless of the era we live in like Praying. Quran teaches us to how to deal with things under certain circumstances and conditions to reach certain goals. we have to be dynamic in the way we think as social rules and conditions change in order to reach the same goal that God wants us to reach.
I think that it’s because the way God has created women. Because the nature of women is become mother some day and overall women have to take care of many things in the same time, like take care of the baby and be wearing about maybe food in oven and doing something else in the the same time. This nature of women takes away some of full concentration from only one thing so she has her mind in every where in same time. But mans doesn’t have so much duty so God has created them to concentrate of one thing at the time for example hunting animals or other things so while mens have concentrated only in one thing they also remember that thing much better. They have tested women and mens, they gave both groups 4 simple thing to do at the same time, all women did all of them in time but the best men did only 2 in time.
Rightly said.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2658-The Prophet said: “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?” The women said: “Yes.” He said: “This is because of the deficiency of her mind.”
At least it doesn't tell you to kill you own wife if she held the crotch of another man in a dispute...that's in the bible
@@fidelcatsro6948 now you have an argument that who is less worse than the other?
what else were you expecting? singing Indian folklore hymms about rama and bjp
The Hadith is more of an playful banter nothing else nothing more.
Libertarian Prince hhhhhhh I don’t take Hadiths as truth, anyone cann make up a story so that he has some benefit (in this case control women)
Nice try Shabir....now all you have to do is to show us specific instances from the Sirah/ Hadith/ Islamic history whereby this extra female witness WAS NOT REQUIRED. As you put it yourself, where a contract did not involve land or property issues.
OK smart guy show me where in the bible it says women are credible witnesses when her own father or brother can nullify her testimony!
If I say the constitution of the United States says X, why would you require me to show you where the local municipality of a random time-and-place says anything to support my claim?
David - a real life situation will be as follows;
This only applies in BUSINESS matters IF there is no written contract between 2 people.
So if a businessman and a businesswoman have a written signed contract between them, there is no need for other witnesses. Both are equal.
But if 1 of them is illiterate, then he needs witnesses to the sale, in case of disputes.
if there is a dispute, then 1 of the witnesses will be called. It doesn't matter if it is the woman or the man. Only if the business people don't agree to this wo/man's testimony, will the other witnesses be called.
If the business people are happy with the testimony from 1 man and 1 woman then there is NO NEED for the 2nd female, whose role is to remind/correct the other female IF she makes a mistake.
But if there is still a dispute then the 2nd woman's testimony will be taken into account and she could overule the man's testimony or the other womans. Her word will be final.
In other much more important matters, we always rely on the testimony of 1 woman alone such as a midwife or a female judge giving rulings or female Doctors / translators / advisors etc etc or MOST IMPORTANTLY, a female hadith scholar teaching men the religion of Islam and this testimony is the greatest of all, and it is perfectly OK for a woman to teach men.
It is well known that biblical law does NOT allow women as witnesses and in cases where the husband accuses his wife, she is deemed guilty until proven innocent.
In the Quran, her word is equal to the man's.
Shabbir ally Mangesh to give some twist to reduce the effect of the verses in Quran, no point in pointing a historical perspective, Quran should be all time, if as per Shabbir some verses are irrelevant as they were time specific, then why does he not list out the verses irrelevant today, he cunningly does not do so , the actual status of women under Islam is given below,
MENTAL CAPACITY
The Qur'an says that the testimony of a woman is not equal to that of a man. It says that the testimony of two women is required to be equal to the testimony of one man.
Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses. (Qur'an 2:282, Dawood)
Why is it that the testimony of a woman is only worth half that of a man? Muhammad explains in the following hadith.
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a women equal to half that of a man?" The women said "yes". He said "This is because of the deficiency of the women's mind." (Bukhari: vol. 3, bk. 48, no. 826, Khan)
Isn't that what every scholar does? Choose specific passages and then make their own interpretation with some comparison to official sources? Please do enlighten me on how literal interpretation is possible.
We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by
Audibilah!!! Shabir is reforming islam! Mr. Bidah! Kufar!
Keep trying to white wash the ancient scriptures as only good. These books are not perfect, but the product of the men who wrote them in their culture. They may be inspired by God, but are not perfect words from heaven.
More Islamic innovation..... Nothing to see here.
Yes, testimony of a women is worth half of testimony of a man. But why? Here's a shocking truth. Prophet answered in Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Dr Shabbir Ally believes this hadith may be inauthentic even though its listed as sahih (he made a series on problematic hadiths)
@@maybefuture_youtuber2655 Yes off course it is. Haven't you noticed that every hadith that makes Muhammad look bad is a weak hadith?
@@quintuslentulus6183 probably because some of them contradict the Quran?
I would leave Islam .its a joke. Speak to Christian Priest on youtube daily don't ask Dr. Shabir Ali. Ask Christian Priest.
May Allah guide you 🙏
Nice mental gymnastics and obfuscation.
The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Sahih al-Bukhari.
We're not supposed to believe all the hadiths, many are wrongly narrated. Theres even a Quran verse that warns against hadiths
Because, mostly, women are less serious than men
Not at all.
This can be answered by common observations. Anyone wont disagree that women are more compassionate, agreeable than men. This is due to biological differences. Women brings out emotions and the past and all the irrelevant things for a particular situation. Men just sticks to the point. Women have more interest on people and men have more interest in things.
some men are more compassionate than women
This man is really creating confusion amongst Muslims.
Not at all!
this is among many of the reasons I left Islam.
How much did the church pay you to pose like this pastor?
fidel catsro it’s ok it is his choice. But I would like to hear his reasons to why he left Islam.
truth son that’s because ur mind cant comprehend.
أسفا على هذا الانهزام الفكري و الانحلال العملي.. شيخ مع فتاة، تركت مشاهدة الفيديو، ويتركها كل مسلم في قلبه غيرة و حمية إسلامية..
لا تلاعب يا شيخ بالدين و أحكامه!!
ألا يوجد في الغرب رجل ليقدم البرنامج؟ أم تخافون قلة المشاهدين والمتابعين إن لم تحضروا فتاة في البرنامج، كسعلة تشترى، كما يفعله الغرب وكذا الشرق، يسخدم المرأة كسلعة من السلع التجارية.
هدانا الله و إيكم.
Shabir ally. A great debater but going too far with womenss rights nonsense.