Thank you Br Omar for your lecture about what happened to Allah’s Deen which is complete & safe in Quran for all times to come. Allah has guaranteed its safety. Very interesting book written by Dr Abdul Wadud in 1970 Conspiracies against the Quran.
Great discussion, Please do more discussions with Omar, In sha Allah. May Allah bless you brothers and sister and all righteous believers. In sha Allah
Not ëducated muslims"but honest muslims because the problems of Islam come from the Muftis and Sheiks WHO ARE running a parrallel religion of government budgets for personal gain and theyweaponize Islam against ordinary believers
Yes 90,% of All hadees ..,( sayings of prophit Mohammed ) are fabricated And all those notified immams of hadees who fabricated these sayings will kicked down in Hell for ever ...
Dear Brother Quran is the litmus test, of the hadith is in conformity with Quran it is reliable and acceptable, and if it found to be contradictory to Quran then it is rejected
@@ilyasmohi3011 salam. I keep hearing this argument just to hold onto hadith. Here is how I think about it: A. If hadith contradicts Qur'an, you reject it B. If hadith is in conformity to Qur'an, why do you need the hadith at all? If its stating what Qur'an states, then why turn to that hadith at all? You and I would agree, Allah's words are sufficient. Just a thought Be well Peace
@Shane Divix a hadith agreeing with the Quran does not mean its exactly the same as the Quran. So its ridiculous to claim you don't need a hadith just because it agrees with the Quran. That's like saying we dont need history books because the history books agree with what we already know
@Shane Divix you're argument makes no sense. Thats like saying you would throw all history and all philosophy away just because you have obtained something that contains all that you need. Humans are on a journey of discovering and learning. If we already know it all then our lives in this world is pointles.
They took our simple and rational Divine deen, and transformed into a complicated and irrational man made religion. And the majority follow like cattle, without any critical thinking.
Prophet will never act himself in his life against Quran teachings, hadees are not required at all, it seems whatever wild fantacy those eras kings and scholars had in them they put it on the head of prophet to justify and carried on with prohibited things,next important work is to translate Quran with new educated pool of scholars once again.
Thanks for the wonderful topic and very well presented by Dr Omar, I would like to know does Dr Omar Ramahi agree with Brother Abdullahi as he has a video of teaching people how to offer parayer(namaz), we should question people in our group as well and do not accept everything they say without pondering on that
Thank you Dr. Omar, I Was searching for the asli and naqli for sometime, hope with Allah's help l will be able to get more knowledge and information to pass on to my grandchildren
This has been a very informative lecture, sadly however many so called Muslims will fight you tooth and nail over these hadiths and their idolized prophet Muhammad. This is one of the many reasons I left mainstream Islam is because of their sectarianism and their glorification of hadiths over Quran.
I may say that you may have left a parallel religion rather than mainstream Islam. Mainstream Islam is founded on the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an) and anything outside that, irrespective of how valuable and insightful it my be, has nothing to do with Islam. For thoughtful, rational, and serious people, it is simply impossible to follow the parallel religion that was founded on hearsay (i.e., hadith, "sunnah", biographies of the prophet, etc.). Many thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@OmarRamahi2019 thank you for the correction. I've always though it caused great confusion to follow anything other than the word of our Lord and hadiths caused more harm and corruption than anything. Keep up the great work you are doing, its so refreshing to have lectures like this.
Ma shaa Allaah. Barakallaahufeekuma wa jazakallah khair. Appreciate this presentation. Pls ask Dr. Omar to explain this phenomena " unity in diversity" which is used to accommodate various conflicting matters vis a vis the different opinions or the Hadeeths confirmed as Saheeh. Pls advise. Rabbanaa Ihdeena wa Saddidnaa alaa as SIRAATHAL MUSTAQEEM.
Rasool means Messenger, someone who brings a risala. Please learn Arabic. Quran is complete and fully detailed. Everything we can not find in the Quran does not belong to the Quran.
@@mdfayaz794622 Salam brother. The Hadith does mention namaz but does not give any details. This includes the ahadith in Sahih al-Bukhari. So in summary, there are no details (specifics) either in Hadith or the Mus'haf.
Thank you for fulfilling the Quran’s prophecy that Christians & others will mock our faith (which is ironically the same faith of Jesus Christ) - and I pray that you wake up from your delusion, and become a true servant of God, rather than a false & childish messenger of Sam Shamoun and other such charlatans who will no doubt lead you to Hell. The decision is yours-but remember that Judgement Day is coming. And God is not blind to ANYTHING that you do.
Salamualaikum brother. I urge you to please be specific when you refer a verse from quraan and also the references from hadith slowly and clearly. It will satisfy the listeners. Please pronounce clearly the name of ither books written by bukhari or Muslim or sunan dawood so that we can verify. I am also a studeeof knowledge, working on hasith vs quraan comparison. May Allah open our hearts and make us undrstand the qur'an and follow the true religion of God. Aameen
Salam Brother It’s impossible to give all references in a discussion like this. However if you have a query about something very specific please let us know and we will provide all sources to your satisfaction
Omar Ramahi, sir, I am rather puzzled and would appreciate your response to two questions that came to me from your presentation: First, do you have any explanation of the motives of these famous hadith scholar-compilers why they would apparently undermine their own prophet and religion -- in the manner of some of the texts (apparently uncontradicted) that you cited -- if they did not trust them to be so? Second, are you sure, you are not judging the texts by employing the moral sensibility of the present time on the moral sensibility of their era many centuries ago? Thank you.
I was a Christian and I am not a trained pastor but the writers of Hadith to me are not a new profession neither are they separate from the people who forged the Bible and ended up with a bounty hunter Paul who realised that cutting the heads of the followers of jesus /Essa was going to fail but if cutting heads was followed by a forged gospel then the majority would be misled and the promise of Ibliss to make sin look beautiful accomplished. The very gall of writing a book after God has revealed a book is Satanic. The Hadith and the forged Bible have one thing in common that is to mislead from God
Yes..yes.its true what they did is to mislead Muslims and Christians from the true path which Leeds to oneness of Allaha they are ..Jews.. only ..(. They fabricated Hadees....and Bible...)..And they Succeeded in their Mission..
It’s unfortunate you think the bible is forged. At least that’s what I understood of you. I am a firm believer in the Quran and the bible, they go hand in hand and are all scripture.
@@lets_wrapitup You are correct in some respects but the bible is Not revealed to one prophet but to several prophets and among them are just ordinary political commisars who work for different governments with the same objective of manipulating religious sentiment. While the Quran was revealed to a single prophet who was sent because human continued wickedness and the Quran revealed to show the unlawful changes made to the bible. Ultimately it is important for us to realise that we need to get the truth Not just be satisfied in finding fault with one another because we are Not shareholders but customers who must consume the correct words of God so that we can worship Him and save ourselves from His displeasure and benefit from His countless mercies.
@@braveheart8318 most of the Jews at the time of Jesus thought so in regards to Jesus’ gospel. It matters not what the majority think, think for yourself and be critical in spite of popular belief.
salam Brother. Thanks for your feedback. All the details and references are mentioned in my book Muslims' Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam (available on amazon).
@@AryanAli0007 salam brother Aryan. This is more or less an interview discussion rather than an open discussion. But please contact Brother Sarfraz as he is the organizer of this forum.
Sir,its very clear,so called hadith r mostly fabricated,concocted n cooked in the name of Rasool for special purposes,time,rule etc. My basic question is,is there any provision from Quran for these so called hadith? When it is not proved then what thing make us to discuss hadith instead of Quran? Even Quran condemned,who write the books by their hands n strictly restrict the Rasool not to add or minus the words of Allah.
Ok this is well and good to say that there are hadiths that are wrong. But what I want to know is how dose this apply to all Hadith. Are we to throw them out? What about Hadith such as how and when to do salah?
salam. You have raised a good point, but my question would be, can you produce one hadith (irrespective of its strength) that explains how to do salah and when do do salah? That will enrich the discussion on this channel. Sincerely, Omar
@@OmarRamahi2019 Salams Omar, In regards to salat I have not found any hadith for this, and am currently trying to find information to to support the way salah is done. But Omar, to my original question hadiths from Bukari/Muslim how do we identify and decided if these are to be used? Thank You
@@toolsnthings5539 The question is not which hadith is right and which hadith is wrong. We are commanded by Allah to follow the Message, which is embodied and only embodied by the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an). Nothing else contitute the Message that was revealed from Allah except the Mus'haf. Everything else should not be viewed as part of the religion of Islam, irrespective of who said it and who did it. it is that simple. The book that Allah sent as hidaya (guidance) for all humans is the Mus'haf. I would like to cordially invite you to read my book which covered this topic extensively (Muslims Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam.) The book is available on Amazon and other online fine book sellers.
The flawed Hadiths are the reason in rejected Islam growing up. Alhamdillah Allah guided me back to read the Quran and find the truth. Iblis is responsible for the perpetuation of these blasphemous Hadiths
Quran 17:47 We are Best Aware of what they wish to hear when they give ear to thee and when they take secret counsel, when the evil-doers say: "Ye follow but a man bewitched." Narrated `Aisha: Sahih Bukhari that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). Then (one day) he said, "O `Aisha!) Do you know that Allah has advised me as to the problem I consulted Him about?" `Aisha said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What's that?" He said, "Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet, and one of them asked his companion, 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' People in the early age of Islam did not believe in blasphemous hadith that contradict the Quran. Abu Bakr al-Jassas al-Razi al-Hanafi was a prominent Hanafi jurist from the fourth century, one of the most respected scholars in the field of Uŝūl (epistemic principles), and the grand-teacher of Abul Hasan al Quduri, who wrote the most famous and most commonly used primer in Hanafi jurisprudence, ‘Mukhtasar al-Quduri’. He not only rejected this hadith but stated “the ignorant of the Hashawis (anthropomorphists, those who believe that God is a form or body bound by space) narrated this hadith without knowing it was fabricated.”
It's the .pronunciations what we made a mistake ..Haram ,,= Formidable..Not permited... example... Eating .pig is Haram........And on other hand... Harram = A place of congregation.. A place were like minded people get to gether for a common cause .or live to gether... Harram of a king. ( Were a king with his people live ). ..A place were a large group of people gather to praise Allaha .example. ,( Praying in masjid ) ...And the masjid e Harram...Macca..were millions of muslims get to gether perform the Rituals of .Hajj...and Masjid ul Harram madina ....
Let's talk about Truth!, the truth that is concealed, and we don't want to hear about it because it is so disturbing and challenges our faith and understanding what we have built based not on the book but on arabic tradition. I would like to connect!
If you see some seventy to eighty years old photos of Kaba, Kaba is surrounded by some ten to twelve houses. It is impossible to believe that kaba existed 1400 years ago
The six pillar is believing in the unseen, which is compulsory if you dont you are a kaffir, Allah says this in the Quran, why are muslims denying the unseen? it is a requirement of a mumin
We are muslims ... Can we labelled ourself .that.. I am a sunni muslim. Or. a shia muslim ..or. a ehele hadees muslim ... ⁉️ ..what muslim we are ⁉️... Please answer me thanks...
Mr Omar, you could also have cited the so-called hadith me’raj to the ترقی فی السماء. For the Quran, it is an impossibility for him to ascend into heaven but according to the hadith he did ascend into heaven.
Every Rasool is a Nabi but not every Nabi is a Rasool. When God says Muhammad(pbuh) is the final Nabi, it goes without saying that he(pbuh) is the final Rasool as well. And do you think after God has revealed Quran and instructed humanity to ponder over it themselves then whats the point of keeping the door open for any rasool or nabi after it?! There are a lot of problems with ahadith but at least understand Quran before blindly juxtaposing Quran and hadith
Mr Bukhari, from Bukhara in Russian State, author of book بخاری Was facilitator of عباسی خلافت as media management. He rejected over 500000 روایات , means he was one the biggest ( in number), منکر حدیث ۔ He compiled the book , must have been paid pretty well, and put word صحیح and becomes the final authority. People must follow his narratives with closed eyes, has humiliated our beloved prophet the most in his book than anyone.
Allah specifies in the Quran that Moses was prophet and messenger to avoid people using “logic” and know the fact. Get your references from Islamic scholars not random people with e.g., engineering backgrounds who are not specialized in this. Ibn Taymiyyah said: "As for the statement of Allah, 'and the Seal of the Prophets' and not 'the Seal of the Messengers,' it is because sealing the message does not necessarily imply sealing the prophecy, while sealing the prophecy necessarily implies sealing the message. Therefore, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: 'There will be no prophet after me,' and he did not say, 'There will be no messenger after me.' Thus, it is understood that there will be no messenger after him nor any prophet, and that he (peace be upon him) is the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers - peace be upon them all."
salam brother Mosab, with all due respect, I am not sure what you mean by "Islamic scholars"? What is your definition of an Islamic scholar? How would then you pass judgement that I am referencing random people. Allah warns us that we should refrain from following and/or saying what we have no understanding of as in ولا تقف ما ليس لك به علم إن السمع والبصر والفؤاد كل . [ الإسراء: 36] Regarding your second point, Allah asked us to follow what was revealed to us by our lord/sustainer (see اتَّبِعُوا مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ ۗ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ [ الأعراف: 3] He never asked us to follow what Ibn Taymiyyah said irrespective of his status amongst many Muslims. Additionally, what Ibn Taymiyyah is claimed to have said is mere conjecture and/or musings on his part and cannot be substantiated from the Mus'haf. Unfortunately, ibn Taymiyyah did not carefully look at the difference between Prophet and Messenger. We have advanced significantly in all aspects of life since the time of Ibn Taymiyyah. I strongly suggest you read my book Muslims' Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam, which is available on Amazon and other online book sellers. In that book I addressed all these points in greater details.
It is very interesting that according to Muslim historicans, Umm Haraam died on the year 27 or 28 Hijri. This means that if the Prophet was alive at that time, he would have been approximately 80 years of age. (Again, according to Muslim historians, she died during an expedition in Cypress.) Therefore, this means that the chance of having her born sufficiently before the Prophet's birth data is extremely low. Considering all of this, how could it be that she was a maternal aunt, and according to other stories, she breast-fed the Prophet? Things don't add up indeed.
In Quran, before God destroys a nation, He will send His Messengers regardless of who they are. The Messenger continuation is still happening because the sole role was none but to spread Quran's message and not some questionable Hadith. The most blasphemy against Muhammad was that he married a 9 yeard old girl and had sex with her. While in Quran said you cannot marry a child and the marriageable age to get married was they both parties men and women must have a sound judgement that indicates they're matured enough to think straight, to carry the burden as husband and wife.
@@davidweissberg89 Where Quran says that? I haven't seen that, all I saw was this. 33.49 - no waiting period (Iddah) between marriage _unless_ doing sex 65.4 - Waiting period (Iddah) is 3 months Iddah for girls who are have *_not_* yet menstruated (tafsirs clarify girls *_too young_*) which means 100% there is sex based on 33.49 65.4 Tafsir Ibn Abbas What about the waiting period of those who do *_not_* have menstruation *_because_** they are **_too young?”_* (along with those who have it not) *_because of young age,_* their waiting period is three months. 65.4-5 Tafsir Maududi Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible.
absolutely true! Notice when the clergy start any presentation how many words they give to the praise of Allah vs. those words dedicated to the praise of the Prophet.
@@iii___iii Me too long back..These mullas standing in Allahas House the masjid ..and saying all about Hadees .and praising Mohammad.Not Allaha... and uttering some things from fiqa .This is all against Qurran the words of Allaha . I hate all these mullas what so called immam of masjids ....
Brother Salamun alykum, Our beloved Rasool Mohammed SA, was Last Nabi for Bani Israel ( Nabi for them not for us) We are told to follow Rasool not Nabi. Read below Aya . ( Nabi la hum - Nabi for them) أَلَمۡ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلۡمَلَإِ مِنۢ بَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ مُوسَىٰٓ إِذۡ قَالُواْ لِنَبِىٍّ۬ لَّهُمُ ٱبۡعَثۡ لَنَا مَلِڪً۬ا نُّقَـٰتِلۡ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِۖ قَالَ هَلۡ عَسَيۡتُمۡ إِن ڪُتِبَ عَلَيۡڪُمُ ٱلۡقِتَالُ أَلَّا تُقَـٰتِلُواْۖ قَالُواْ وَمَا لَنَآ أَلَّا نُقَـٰتِلَ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ وَقَدۡ أُخۡرِجۡنَا مِن دِيَـٰرِنَا وَأَبۡنَآٮِٕنَاۖ فَلَمَّا كُتِبَ عَلَيۡهِمُ ٱلۡقِتَالُ تَوَلَّوۡاْ إِلَّا قَلِيلاً۬ مِّنۡهُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِيمُۢ بِٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ (٢٤٦) WE ARE STILL FOLLOWING NABI NOT RASOOL UNFORTUNATELY.
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle used to visit Umm Haram bint Milhan, who would offer him meals. Umm Haram was the wife of Ubada bin As-Samit. Allah's Apostle, once visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head. Then Allah's Apostle slept, and afterwards woke up smiling. Umm Haram asked, What causes you to smile, O Allah's Apostle? He said. Some of my followers who (in a dream) were presented before me as fighters in Allah's cause (on board a ship) amidst this sea caused me to smile; they were as kings on the thrones (or like kings on the thrones). (Ishaq, a sub-narrator is not sure as to which expression the Prophet used.) Umm Haram said, O Allah's Apostle! Invoke Allah that he makes me one of them. Allah's Apostle invoked Allah for her and slept again and woke up smiling. Once again Umm Haram asked, What makes you smile, O Allah's Apostle? He replied, Some of my followers were presented to me as fighters in Allah's Cause, repeating the same dream. Umm Haram said, O Allah's Apostle! Invoke Allah that He makes me one of them. He said, You are amongst the first ones. It happened that she sailed on the sea during the Caliphate of Mu'awiya bin Abi Sufyan, and after she disembarked, she fell down from her riding animal and died.
Of course Muhammad of the Qur'an is Jesus a Muhammad is used as euphemism for Messiah(Christ) and rhroughout the 114 Surahs Jesus is presented as the Christ(Messiah) fortold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by the Children of Israel...
It is tarqa not turaqqa. أَوْ تَرْقَىٰ فِي السَّمَاءِ. Secondly, it is مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ, not "mithlihi" as you mispronounced. I'm surprised that you are an Arab and talking to uphold the primacy of the Quran and yet you have no hold on the Quran. Moreover, you use no honorific before Muhammad. Has the Quran asked to not respect the Prophet?
Please explain what you mean by honorific before the prophet’s name. Regarding pronunciation, who’s is the correct one and why? Finally I don’t hold any supreme position. Humility is a trait that all Muslims should hold on to.
15:55-6: to answer the question here, even the 33:40 was not part of the Quran that Muhammad received. It says Muhammad WAS not the father of any of you men.... Muhammad could not read a verse which speaks of him in the past. Hence, the verse was added to the Quran long after Muhammad had died. A similar verse can be found in 61:6 which also uses the past tense (CAME) as a clear case of fabrication of the Quran. Therefore, it is not the Hadith was forged, parts of the Quran were forged also.
Narrated Anas: Some people from the tribe of `Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die. Bukhari 6802
A3oudoubillaah min ashjataan. Bismillaah ❤ STOP spreading lies about Allaah❤❤❤The Almighty. Shame on you all. Qoraan is The Perfect and fully detailed Word of Allaah❤❤❤The Almighty STOP spreading lies about Rassoelloellaah❤❤❤ STOP promissing things in Name of Allaah❤❤❤The Almiighty. STOP following manmade ahadith form Bughari, Muslim, Tirmiti and all the others. STOP following man made books, fatwas and madhabs. This is SHIRK SHIRK SHIRK. No doubt about it. Be careful whit your mouth. Be careful who you follow. Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty Will INTERVENE. The Time is near. Woe you all manmade religion followers and claim it's form Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty.
@@OmarRamahi2019 Brother Omar i am saying that the prophet muhammad we see in the hadith is not the same person in the quran. The Prophet muhammad in the quran is something else it means something else so why dont you tell who he is.
@@rabbi619 The only things Allah wanted us to know about Prophet Muhammad were mentioned in the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an). Everything else is considered historical records whose authenticity cannot be ensured.
@@OmarRamahi2019 Brother omar you know what i am talking about you are avoiding the question and trying to twist the words you understood exactly what i asked the first comment but you intentionally avoid it dosent matter if its not you then someone else will say who the praiseworthy! is.
@@rabbi619 I am really afraid that I don't understand your question. Sorry, but your accusation of me that I am trying to twist your words are unwarranted to say the least.
The Hadith about the prophet sleeping in a woman a lap is involving the maternal aunt of the prophet. This is easy to research and find out. How pathetic that these lazy researchers assert that she was not related
I hope you are not implying that I am a lazy researcher. This would be a very unfounded accusation. I did my research well. In fact, I am copying some text that I wrote in earlier message. here it is: Regarding your claim that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet, please validate that claim. Was she the maternal aunt or the paternal aunt? Your stating that she was the Prophet’ aunt is not a proof that she was. My understanding based on historical records (on the assumption that they are correct) that the Prophet never had Umm Haram as one of his maternal or paternal aunts. I will await a validation of your claim."
Salam brother Omar, with all due respect, your provided a broad statement that lacks specificity and context. This may be perceived as an attempt to discredit my presentation/arguments without providing any substantive rebuttal at all. I would welcome any challenge to my arguments, but you provided none.
@@OmarRamahi2019 I agree with all u said but here in rasul u need to bring more to the table because God said all rasul before Mohammad has died and u said angels are among his rasul is it mean they died
@@omarsalim9562I have read 3:144 carefully and it is in no way supports your assertion. If all rusul before Mohammad have died, that does not negate the possibility that there will be rusul after Mohammad. The logical construction of the verse does not support your assertion.
@@OmarRamahi2019 Just some examples : In verse 74 of chapter Hudhud ( سورة الهدهد ) Quran alleges an un-named prophet of God who was accompaning and giving lessons to Moses killed a little boy ( غلام ) . When Moses asked why he killed the boy that prophet allegedly answered the boy , if not killed , was going to be a sinful adult !!!!!!! ? . Doesn't that taste nonsense and criminal ? That is not revelation from . God . This is just an example from hundreds of some times cruel , some times contradicting and sometimes stupid allegations in Quran
Sorry but you are not making any contribution to this forum Hadith is not Islam. Islam is embodied in the Mus’haf But you have the freedom to follow whatever you wish
The ignorance of this man is off the roof. Haram doesn't mean sin, it means forbidden or unlawful and Umm Haram is the Prophet's (SAW) maternal aunty so there is nothing wrong with him sleeping on her lap. This only proves how ignorant hadith rejecters are.
Please read the earlier threads. This haram subject had been put to rest. Nevertheless good manners call for avoiding leveling insults such as your accusation that I am ignorant. This accusation is not an argument. So please keep your comments respectful.
Have you no shame? Why do you disregard the Prophet's Sunna? Do you think you will know Islam if not of for the Prophet and his Sunnah?@@OmarRamahi2019
@@dmitry5233 The only reason people make arguments like yours is to validate the "science" of hadiths. You are in grave danger of committing shirk. “A good tree doesn't produce rotten fruit, and a rotten tree doesn't produce good fruit." We must throw away and reject all man made hadiths/gossip. Quran is the true word of God, full stop.
HADITHS should be a dead topic for us on this forum when this guy spent most of 1hr and 49mins clearing how hadiths are contradictory to Quran.. When he talks about QUR'AN from 13:20 - 15:20 mins He is saying about the verse (33:40) that it means end of NABI AND NOT RASOOL..exactly what MIRZA GHULAM AHMED SAID AND HIS FOLLOWERS SAY.. Please let's not get our minds contaminated by these kind of people..just because he is saying hadiths are contradictory to Quran (what we like hearing) it does not mean he understands the QUR'AN right too..
please note very carefully that the Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet. This is completely different from what I said in this presentation. It appears to me that the Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion has a belief that contradicts the Mushaf (aka the Qur'an). Also, kindly note that my understanding is that this forum is for those who are interested in truths.
Mr. Omar is right. as he mention " Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet". Allah 's messenger will keep coming to give the Quran message of Allah to the people i will mention some Ayat references i hope you will ponder on it . See Chapter 2 : 151 -152. Such blessing as the sending of a messenger from among you to recite from our revelations, and to cleanse you, to teach you the Scripture and wisdom, and to teach you what you never knew. Therefore, you shall remember Me so that I may remember you, and be thankful to Me. And be appreciative. And for every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. (Qur'ân 10:47) And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e., do not worship Taghut besides Allah)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). (Qur'ân 16:36). Allah s.w.t. only mention few messengers in the Quran by name , but the messenger will keep coming among us they will only give message and teach from the Al-Quran / Al-Furqan. the prophet hood is end now .
Mr. Omar is right. as he mention " Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet". Allah 's messenger will keep coming to give the Quran message of Allah to the people i will mention some Ayat references i hope you will ponder on it . See Chapter 2 : 151 -152. Such blessing as the sending of a messenger from among you to recite from our revelations, and to cleanse you, to teach you the Scripture and wisdom, and to teach you what you never knew. Therefore, you shall remember Me so that I may remember you, and be thankful to Me. And be appreciative. And for every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. (Qur'ân 10:47) And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e., do not worship Taghut besides Allah)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). (Qur'ân 16:36). Allah s.w.t. only mention few messengers in the Quran by name , but the messenger will keep coming among us they will only give message and teach from the Al-Quran / Al-Furqan. the prophet hood is end now .
1. Haram (/həˈrɑːm, hæˈrɑːm, hɑːˈrɑːm, -ˈræm/;[1][2] Arabic: حَرَام, ḥarām, [ħaˈraːm]) is an Arabic term meaning ‘forbidden’.[3]: 471 This may refer to: either something sacred to which access is forbidden to the people who are not in a state of purity or who are not initiated into the sacred knowledge; or, in direct contrast, to an evil and thus "sinful action that is forbidden to be done". The term also denotes something "set aside", thus being the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew concept קדוש, qadoš and the concept of sacer (cf. sacred) in Roman law and religion. 2. Umm Hiram bint Milhan (Arabic: أم حرام بنت ملحان; ), was the aunt (Arabic: خالة) and one of the companions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon Him). Is Omar Ramahi really that ignorant to know that Umm Haram was the aunt of Rasulullah (Peace be upon Him)? The word haram doesn't only mean sinful, it means forbidden and it also means sacred. Omar Ramahi indeed makes some compelling arguments in many cases. But why sprinkle your statements with falsehood and wrong statements/ A simple search through google could inform him that Umm Haram binte Milhan was a mahram woman to Rasulullah (Peace be upon him). Did he deliberately include false statements to bolster his arguments against hadiths? There are already so many problems with hadiths that he didn't need to mix falsehood with truth to support his argument. Another misinformation that he gave was that he said all Rasuls were humans. But Quran clearly points out that angels (Malaika) were also sent as Mursalin (messengers). Some verses from the Noble Quran that tell us about angels being 'messengers' as well are as follows: Allah chooseth from the angels messengers, and (also) from mankind. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Seer. 22:75 And Our messengers came unto Abraham with good news. They said: Peace! He answered: Peace! and delayed not to bring a roasted calf. 11:69 And when Our messengers came unto Lot, he was distressed and knew not how to protect them. He said: This is a distressful day. 11:77 Put forward your case truthfully. Don't mix falsehood with truth just to make your arguments stronger. There are already many evidences that hadiths have been tampered with a lot. You don't need to lie to make your case.
Can you please specify where I lied in my presentation. You are referring to historical documents but I am referring to the Mushaf. There may be errors in interpretation but the claim of lie is indeed very troubling Regarding Umm Haram, sorry but you are referring to historical documents, some of which claimed that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet! I would love to see the validation for Finally, why should I trust the Umm Haram Hadith in light of the extensive Hadith fabrication cottage industry which churned more than 600,000 hadiths according to al Bukhari himself
@@OmarRamahi2019 You mentioned that Umm haram was not a relative of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam). But she was his aunt. You have mentioned that all Rasuls are humans, but Angels have also been referred to as mursalin in the Quran. You have tried to give an impression that the word haram only means sin or sinful. But the word haram has several meanings. It also means sacred. You have tried to ridicule the name Umm Haram by saying it means "Mother of Sin", and you have insinuated that she might have been a woman of dodgy reputation. But you know very well that Quran has used the word haram in other senses as well. For example, the Baitullah of Makkah have been referred to as Masjidil haram. By your logic if Umm haram means "mother of Sin" then what would be the meaning of the phrase "Masjidil haram"? The criticism of hadith should be academic, factual and epistemology based. Shallow point scoring and playing with word meanings should be avoided.
@@naseremdad4231 thank you brother. I am glad that now you at least came down from your troubling and seriously disturbing accusation that I am a liar. We should be very cautious of such accusations as the Mus’haf clearly warns us. Now that you claim haram could mean sacred is unfounded. I cannot be certain as to the exact translation of sacred in Arabic, perhaps muqaddas (مقدس), but I can assure you, that by referring to the Mus’haf strictly and nothing else, that haram does not mean sacred at ALL. Haram implies something that is eternally forbidden and when appeared connected with the baiet (البيت,) as in al-bait al-haram (البيت الحرام ) then it is referring to the status of Makkah as a place in which mayhem and killing and violence are completely prohibited (i.e., haram), hence the association of the word haram with Makka/Bakkah (please see 3:97 where Allah specifically and explicitly states that whoever enters this place became fully protected from any harm; a status that was given to Makkah/Bakkah long before the Prophet was born). Also, please look at 5:21 where Allah refers to الارض المقدسة . Therefore, muqaddas is different from haram. In summary, and by putting all the verses that have the word haram together and observing them, we come to the conclusion that haram means something that is prohibited or eternally forbidden with the sin implication. Regarding your claim that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet, please validate that claim. Was she the maternal aunt or the paternal aunt? Your stating that she was the Prophet’ aunt is not a proof that she was. My understanding based on historical records (on the assumption that they are correct) that the Prophet never had Umm Haram as one of his maternal or paternal aunts. I will await a validation of your claim. And sadly, you conclude by additional ad hominem--by additional accusation of “shallow point scoring” and “playing with words meanings”. I recommend strongly that we focus on the arguments than polluting such an important discussion by unfounded and hurtful accusations that, again, Allah warns us against in His divine revelation. Isn’t it enough that the Hadith smeared the Prophet’s history and reputation? Or has smear campaigns, under the guise of protecting the religion form polluters, has become acceptable? Last but not least, don’t Muslims have a methodology in our approach to calling others to the path of Allah ( سبيل ربك ) specifically in 16:125 ٱدْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِٱلْحِكْمَةِ وَٱلْمَوْعِظَةِ ٱلْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَـٰدِلْهُم بِٱلَّتِى هِىَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِۦ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِٱلْمُهْتَدِينَ Shouldn’t this verse be also applicable to when Muslims engage with each other? Or only when engaging with non-Muslims.
and in reference to my statement that every rasool (i.e., messenger) is a human, yes, this was incorrect on my part as I rushed into saying that. I am fully aware of the Mus'haf minitioning that Allah sent rusul (plural of messenger) that were not necessarily humans (انسان ) or bashar (بشر) as in the case of those who brought glad tidings to Ibrahim, or those who brought warnings to the pepole of Lut, or the angel who was sent as a herald to Maryam telling her about the coming of Isa, or the Nuthur who were sent to the pepole of Noah (or even before him).
@@OmarRamahi2019 1. The Arabic language has two separate words, ḥaram (Arabic: حَرَم) and ḥarām (Arabic: حَرَام) both derived from the same triliteral Semitic root Ḥ-R-M. Both of these words can mean "forbidden" and/or "sacred". in a general way, but each has also developed some specialized meanings (ḥarām most often means "forbidden by law"). Mr. Ramahi, you are very well aware that in Arabic a word can have several meanings and several shades of meaning. It depends on the context what meaning we shall derive. just as Masjidil haram does not mean "Masjid of sin", similarly Umm Haram does not mean 'mother of sin". Besides, the word sacred in English has several synonyms with differences in nuances. I agree muqddas means sacred. But other words can also mean sacred as well. But the nuances will be different. There are more than dozen words to refer to a camel in Arabic. So, more than one word in Arabic can mean sacred. but there would be differences in nuances and shades. No serious scholar of Arabic (be they Muslim or not) would say that the phrase Umm haram means mother of sins. 2. Umm Harâm bint Malhân ibn Khâlid ibn Zayd ibn Harâm. She was a member of the tribe of al-Khazraj, al-Ansâr, Medina. She was the sister of Umm Salim, the aunt of Anas ibn Malik, and the wife of `Ubâdah Ibn as-Sâmit. An-Nawawî narrated in the explanation of Sahih Muslim that Umm Salim and Umm Harâm were the Prophet's aunts from the maternal side either by suckling or by blood. Being the aunt of the Prophet, the Prophet (pbuh) used to visit her. Anas Ibn Mâlik reported, "Once, the Messenger of Allah, (pbuh) came to our home where there were only my mother, aunt Umm Haram and I. He said; let me lead you in prayer "It was not a time of prayer by then."(Reported by Muslim). Perhaps, Mr. Ramahi, you have heard the name of imam An Nawawi. His famous explanation on Sahih Muslim contains the information that Umm Haram was Prophet's (Peace be upon Him). The problem with today's You tube celebrities is that they don't do their research and just throw doubts on traditional scholarship.
It looks to me Omar is from either Egypt or Syria and people from that region think that they know Arabic perfectly well, but Quran versus and language needs many years of study and not like Standard modern Arabic, so please
Salaam brother per your argument that Dr Omar is a non so called from "Arab speaking" nation then, using same logic, islam , or precisely The Book namely Quran, is not the "ajams" then?
Thank you Br Omar for your lecture about what happened to Allah’s Deen which is complete & safe in Quran for all times to come. Allah has guaranteed its safety.
Very interesting book written by
Dr Abdul Wadud in 1970
Conspiracies against the Quran.
These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what Hdith after Allah and His verses will they believe? 45:6
In bukhari
@@islamuniversaltv6131 where is Bukhari mentioned in the Quran? Bukhari was not even born when that verse was revealed.
@@hassanabdur-rahman1559 this is what i am trying to say with sarcasm
@ISLAM UNIVERSAL TV not all people understand sarcasm
@@islamuniversaltv6131hahaha
Great discussion, Please do more discussions with Omar, In sha Allah.
May Allah bless you brothers and sister and all righteous believers. In sha Allah
Being Quranist is not the true believe but being muslim is
@ComeBackToQuran so you reject the Quran and want to follow the filthy hadith
Intellectual talk: TADDABER AL QURAN
Educated Muslims realize the need to make the Quran as priority over narrations of the people.
Not ëducated muslims"but honest muslims because the problems of Islam come from the Muftis and Sheiks WHO ARE running a parrallel religion of government budgets for personal gain and theyweaponize Islam against ordinary believers
Will share this to channels promoting the hadiths. Great to listen to people who use their own minds instead of blindly following.
I see a familiar name
Thank you for exposing the fabricators. They will burn in Hell for what they did to the world!
Yes 90,% of All hadees ..,( sayings of prophit Mohammed ) are fabricated And all those notified immams of hadees who fabricated these sayings will kicked down in Hell for ever ...
Dear Brother Quran is the litmus test, of the hadith is in conformity with Quran it is reliable and acceptable, and if it found to be contradictory to Quran then it is rejected
@@ilyasmohi3011 salam. I keep hearing this argument just to hold onto hadith. Here is how I think about it:
A. If hadith contradicts Qur'an, you reject it
B. If hadith is in conformity to Qur'an, why do you need the hadith at all? If its stating what Qur'an states, then why turn to that hadith at all?
You and I would agree, Allah's words are sufficient.
Just a thought
Be well
Peace
@Shane Divix a hadith agreeing with the Quran does not mean its exactly the same as the Quran. So its ridiculous to claim you don't need a hadith just because it agrees with the Quran. That's like saying we dont need history books because the history books agree with what we already know
@Shane Divix you're argument makes no sense. Thats like saying you would throw all history and all philosophy away just because you have obtained something that contains all that you need. Humans are on a journey of discovering and learning. If we already know it all then our lives in this world is pointles.
Great talk! Islam needs more people like you.
They took our simple and rational Divine deen, and transformed into a complicated and irrational man made religion. And the majority follow like cattle, without any critical thinking.
Nice summary indeed. Thank you.
Prophet will never act himself in his life against Quran teachings, hadees are not required at all, it seems whatever wild fantacy those eras kings and scholars had in them they put it on the head of prophet to justify and carried on with prohibited things,next important work is to translate Quran with new educated pool of scholars once again.
Alhamdulilah so much clarity. Thanks from South Africa
Thank you Mr Omar
Great discussion by Dr Omar to open our eyes
Very intresting, thank you.
Thanks for the wonderful topic and very well presented by Dr Omar, I would like to know does Dr Omar Ramahi agree with Brother Abdullahi as he has a video of teaching people how to offer parayer(namaz), we should question people in our group as well and do not accept everything they say without pondering on that
u really don't know need hadith for that
great talk, thank you.
Thank you Dr. Omar, I Was searching for the asli and naqli for sometime, hope with Allah's help l will be able to get more knowledge and information to pass on to my grandchildren
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Excellent conversation
Salamalaikum Dr Omar Ramahi. Please let us know about Droodh ..which have been related to Aya 56 of sura ..Al Ahazab ..thanks
This has been a very informative lecture, sadly however many so called Muslims will fight you tooth and nail over these hadiths and their idolized prophet Muhammad. This is one of the many reasons I left mainstream Islam is because of their sectarianism and their glorification of hadiths over Quran.
I may say that you may have left a parallel religion rather than mainstream Islam. Mainstream Islam is founded on the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an) and anything outside that, irrespective of how valuable and insightful it my be, has nothing to do with Islam. For thoughtful, rational, and serious people, it is simply impossible to follow the parallel religion that was founded on hearsay (i.e., hadith, "sunnah", biographies of the prophet, etc.). Many thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@OmarRamahi2019 thank you for the correction. I've always though it caused great confusion to follow anything other than the word of our Lord and hadiths caused more harm and corruption than anything. Keep up the great work you are doing, its so refreshing to have lectures like this.
The lecture was very informative. But Hadiths numbers were not mentioned,
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During a women’s menstrual period, making salat eases up on the challenges for women.
Ma shaa Allaah.
Barakallaahufeekuma wa jazakallah khair.
Appreciate this presentation.
Pls ask Dr. Omar to explain this phenomena " unity in diversity" which is used to accommodate various conflicting matters vis a vis the different opinions or the Hadeeths confirmed as Saheeh.
Pls advise.
Rabbanaa Ihdeena wa Saddidnaa alaa as SIRAATHAL MUSTAQEEM.
1:34:00 very well said
Excellent event.
Who is that person they're referring to that saying those Hadith?
Hadiths should be discarded.
Rasool means message , Quran is the message.
Rasool means Messenger, someone who brings a risala. Please learn Arabic.
Quran is complete and fully detailed. Everything we can not find in the Quran does not belong to the Quran.
@@tabaxamlil4626 No you are wrong he is correct please explain muhammad who is he.
Please note that I incorrectly referred to 24:35 as the verse of Kursi.
Salaam Brother, do we have namaz which is from Hadeth??
@@mdfayaz794622 Salam brother. The Hadith does mention namaz but does not give any details. This includes the ahadith in Sahih al-Bukhari. So in summary, there are no details (specifics) either in Hadith or the Mus'haf.
Brother Omar, than can you tell me how prayer/salat should be performed? Is there a physical form that should be followed?
@Alosh Madala you can't use Salah as an excuse to accept lies
@@aloshmadala8858 salam brother. Allah did not specify any! There must be a message in this fact!
This was an excellent presentation.
This lecture should be in Urdu.
AllHam2Allah!
Thank you for fulfilling the Quran’s prophecy that Christians & others will mock our faith (which is ironically the same faith of Jesus Christ) - and I pray that you wake up from your delusion, and become a true servant of God, rather than a false & childish messenger of Sam Shamoun and other such charlatans who will no doubt lead you to Hell.
The decision is yours-but remember that Judgement Day is coming. And God is not blind to ANYTHING that you do.
There are atleast two or 3 different Muhammads in the hadith. Each one is completely different from the other.
Could you elaborate?
Salamualaikum brother. I urge you to please be specific when you refer a verse from quraan and also the references from hadith slowly and clearly. It will satisfy the listeners. Please pronounce clearly the name of ither books written by bukhari or Muslim or sunan dawood so that we can verify. I am also a studeeof knowledge, working on hasith vs quraan comparison. May Allah open our hearts and make us undrstand the qur'an and follow the true religion of God. Aameen
Salam Brother
It’s impossible to give all references in a discussion like this. However if you have a query about something very specific please let us know and we will provide all sources to your satisfaction
I always thought this but was looked on like a kuffr if I questioned it
Omar Ramahi, sir, I am rather puzzled and would appreciate your response to two questions that came to me from your presentation:
First, do you have any explanation of the motives of these famous hadith scholar-compilers why they would apparently undermine their own prophet and religion -- in the manner of some of the texts (apparently uncontradicted) that you cited -- if they did not trust them to be so?
Second, are you sure, you are not judging the texts by employing the moral sensibility of the present time on the moral sensibility of their era many centuries ago?
Thank you.
Excellent contribution
I was a Christian and I am not a trained pastor but the writers of Hadith to me are not a new profession neither are they separate from the people who forged the Bible and ended up with a bounty hunter Paul who realised that cutting the heads of the followers of jesus /Essa was going to fail but if cutting heads was followed by a forged gospel then the majority would be misled and the promise of Ibliss to make sin look beautiful accomplished. The very gall of writing a book after God has revealed a book is Satanic. The Hadith and the forged Bible have one thing in common that is to mislead from God
Yes..yes.its true what they did is to mislead Muslims and Christians from the true path which Leeds to oneness of Allaha they are ..Jews.. only ..(. They fabricated Hadees....and Bible...)..And they Succeeded in their Mission..
It’s unfortunate you think the bible is forged. At least that’s what I understood of you. I am a firm believer in the Quran and the bible, they go hand in hand and are all scripture.
@@lets_wrapitup You are correct in some respects but the bible is Not revealed to one prophet but to several prophets and among them are just ordinary political commisars who work for different governments with the same objective of manipulating religious sentiment. While the Quran was revealed to a single prophet who was sent because human continued wickedness and the Quran revealed to show the unlawful changes made to the bible. Ultimately it is important for us to realise that we need to get the truth Not just be satisfied in finding fault with one another because we are Not shareholders but customers who must consume the correct words of God so that we can worship Him and save ourselves from His displeasure and benefit from His countless mercies.
@@lets_wrapitup No Muslim believes that quran and bible or other scriptures go "hand in hand". It must be your own concoction.
@@braveheart8318 most of the Jews at the time of Jesus thought so in regards to Jesus’ gospel. It matters not what the majority think, think for yourself and be critical in spite of popular belief.
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Good brother but u should also share hadith number & references of all hadith
salam Brother. Thanks for your feedback. All the details and references are mentioned in my book Muslims' Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam (available on amazon).
@@OmarRamahi2019 i have a question how can some layman join the discussion? Time & link plz
@@AryanAli0007 salam brother Aryan. This is more or less an interview discussion rather than an open discussion. But please contact Brother Sarfraz as he is the organizer of this forum.
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The ahadith is the Muslim equivalent to the Jewish mishnah and in my humble opinion the followers of both are astray.
Sir,its very clear,so called hadith r mostly fabricated,concocted n cooked in the name of Rasool for special purposes,time,rule etc.
My basic question is,is there any provision from Quran for these so called hadith?
When it is not proved then what thing make us to discuss hadith instead of Quran?
Even Quran condemned,who write the books by their hands n strictly restrict the Rasool not to add or minus the words of Allah.
Ok this is well and good to say that there are hadiths that are wrong. But what I want to know is how dose this apply to all Hadith. Are we to throw them out? What about Hadith such as how and when to do salah?
salam. You have raised a good point, but my question would be, can you produce one hadith (irrespective of its strength) that explains how to do salah and when do do salah? That will enrich the discussion on this channel. Sincerely, Omar
@@OmarRamahi2019 Salams Omar, In regards to salat I have not found any hadith for this, and am currently trying to find information to to support the way salah is done. But Omar, to my original question hadiths from Bukari/Muslim how do we identify and decided if these are to be used? Thank You
@@toolsnthings5539 The question is not which hadith is right and which hadith is wrong. We are commanded by Allah to follow the Message, which is embodied and only embodied by the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an). Nothing else contitute the Message that was revealed from Allah except the Mus'haf. Everything else should not be viewed as part of the religion of Islam, irrespective of who said it and who did it. it is that simple. The book that Allah sent as hidaya (guidance) for all humans is the Mus'haf. I would like to cordially invite you to read my book which covered this topic extensively (Muslims Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam.) The book is available on Amazon and other online fine book sellers.
@@OmarRamahi2019 ok thank you I will definitely check this out as I am have a conflict with this and need to get clarity.
@@toolsnthings5539 have you found clarity? If yes, can you share your research please
The flawed Hadiths are the reason in rejected Islam growing up. Alhamdillah Allah guided me back to read the Quran and find the truth. Iblis is responsible for the perpetuation of these blasphemous Hadiths
N u think the Quran n tafsir s any better? Lol
Quran 17:47 We are Best Aware of what they wish to hear when they give ear to thee and when they take secret counsel, when the evil-doers say: "Ye follow but a man bewitched."
Narrated `Aisha:
Sahih Bukhari
that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). Then (one day) he said, "O `Aisha!) Do you know that Allah has advised me as to the problem I consulted Him about?" `Aisha said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What's that?" He said, "Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet, and one of them asked his companion, 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.'
People in the early age of Islam did not believe in blasphemous hadith that contradict the Quran.
Abu Bakr al-Jassas al-Razi al-Hanafi was a prominent Hanafi jurist from the fourth century, one of the most respected scholars in the field of Uŝūl (epistemic principles), and the grand-teacher of Abul Hasan al Quduri, who wrote the most famous and most commonly used primer in Hanafi jurisprudence, ‘Mukhtasar al-Quduri’. He not only rejected this hadith but stated “the ignorant of the Hashawis (anthropomorphists, those who believe that God is a form or body bound by space) narrated this hadith without knowing it was fabricated.”
What is the meaning of haram because Masjid Al Haram, Shahar Al Haram and blood is also haram???
It's the .pronunciations what we made a mistake ..Haram ,,= Formidable..Not permited... example... Eating .pig is Haram........And on other hand... Harram = A place of congregation.. A place were like minded people get to gether for a common cause .or live to gether... Harram of a king. ( Were a king with his people live ). ..A place were a large group of people gather to praise Allaha .example. ,( Praying in masjid ) ...And the masjid e Harram...Macca..were millions of muslims get to gether perform the Rituals of .Hajj...and Masjid ul Harram madina ....
Haram means forbidden.
Let's talk about Truth!, the truth that is concealed, and we don't want to hear about it because it is so disturbing and challenges our faith and understanding what we have built based not on the book but on arabic tradition.
I would like to connect!
Precisely said. Thank you
If you see some seventy to eighty years old photos of Kaba, Kaba is surrounded by some ten to twelve houses. It is impossible to believe that kaba existed 1400 years ago
kaaba is mentioned in quran and quran was complete 1400 years ago
Dr. Hany is telling last 2 yrs, in his channel , there is no synonym in Quran, synonym is Work of imperfect being.
The six pillar is believing in the unseen, which is compulsory if you dont you are a kaffir, Allah says this in the Quran, why are muslims denying the unseen? it is a requirement of a mumin
SubhanAllah! More and more people are waking up to the truth. The Hadiths are filled with garbage and nonsense!
The problem is that people are used to eating garbage so they wont like fresh things.
is omar ramahi the first person to bring attention to such a contradiction Quran vs hadeeth
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And there have been Quran alone since beginning of Islam
Allah has declared him mohammad of Quran. There is no description of hadees in h oly Quran.
Admittedly it is strange that Aisha narrates things and Muslims take it as equally divine as the Quran
We are muslims ... Can we labelled ourself .that.. I am a sunni muslim. Or. a shia muslim ..or. a ehele hadees muslim ... ⁉️ ..what muslim we are ⁉️... Please answer me thanks...
Allah declared that the Deen In Allah’s consideration is only Islam. So it makes a lot of sense to call ourselves Muslims only
@@OmarRamahi2019 Thanks..
No labels, if we do that then we are imitating the disbelievers
We are muslims period that’s it!
Mr Omar, you could also have cited the so-called hadith me’raj to the ترقی فی السماء. For the Quran, it is an impossibility for him to ascend into heaven but according to the hadith he did ascend into heaven.
Every Rasool is a Nabi but not every Nabi is a Rasool. When God says Muhammad(pbuh) is the final Nabi, it goes without saying that he(pbuh) is the final Rasool as well. And do you think after God has revealed Quran and instructed humanity to ponder over it themselves then whats the point of keeping the door open for any rasool or nabi after it?! There are a lot of problems with ahadith but at least understand Quran before blindly juxtaposing Quran and hadith
Peace The Quran alone 🌷🙏
Mr Bukhari, from Bukhara in Russian State, author of book بخاری
Was facilitator of
عباسی خلافت
as media management.
He rejected over 500000 روایات , means he was one the biggest ( in number), منکر حدیث ۔
He compiled the book , must have been paid pretty well, and put word صحیح
and becomes the final authority. People must follow his narratives with closed eyes, has humiliated our beloved prophet the most in his book than anyone.
Allah specifies in the Quran that Moses was prophet and messenger to avoid people using “logic” and know the fact. Get your references from Islamic scholars not random people with e.g., engineering backgrounds who are not specialized in this.
Ibn Taymiyyah said: "As for the statement of Allah, 'and the Seal of the Prophets' and not 'the Seal of the Messengers,' it is because sealing the message does not necessarily imply sealing the prophecy, while sealing the prophecy necessarily implies sealing the message. Therefore, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: 'There will be no prophet after me,' and he did not say, 'There will be no messenger after me.' Thus, it is understood that there will be no messenger after him nor any prophet, and that he (peace be upon him) is the Seal of the Prophets and Messengers - peace be upon them all."
salam brother Mosab, with all due respect, I am not sure what you mean by "Islamic scholars"? What is your definition of an Islamic scholar? How would then you pass judgement that I am referencing random people. Allah warns us that we should refrain from following and/or saying what we have no understanding of as in ولا تقف ما ليس لك به علم إن السمع والبصر والفؤاد كل . [ الإسراء: 36]
Regarding your second point, Allah asked us to follow what was revealed to us by our lord/sustainer (see اتَّبِعُوا مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ ۗ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ
[ الأعراف: 3]
He never asked us to follow what Ibn Taymiyyah said irrespective of his status amongst many Muslims. Additionally, what Ibn Taymiyyah is claimed to have said is mere conjecture and/or musings on his part and cannot be substantiated from the Mus'haf. Unfortunately, ibn Taymiyyah did not carefully look at the difference between Prophet and Messenger. We have advanced significantly in all aspects of life since the time of Ibn Taymiyyah.
I strongly suggest you read my book Muslims' Greatest Challenge: Choosing between Tradition and Islam, which is available on Amazon and other online book sellers. In that book I addressed all these points in greater details.
They claim umm haraam to be a maternal aunt to the prophet
Of course they can claim many things
It is very interesting that according to Muslim historicans, Umm Haraam died on the year 27 or 28 Hijri. This means that if the Prophet was alive at that time, he would have been approximately 80 years of age. (Again, according to Muslim historians, she died during an expedition in Cypress.) Therefore, this means that the chance of having her born sufficiently before the Prophet's birth data is extremely low. Considering all of this, how could it be that she was a maternal aunt, and according to other stories, she breast-fed the Prophet? Things don't add up indeed.
In Quran, before God destroys a nation, He will send His Messengers regardless of who they are. The Messenger continuation is still happening because the sole role was none but to spread Quran's message and not some questionable Hadith.
The most blasphemy against Muhammad was that he married a 9 yeard old girl and had sex with her. While in Quran said you cannot marry a child and the marriageable age to get married was they both parties men and women must have a sound judgement that indicates they're matured enough to think straight, to carry the burden as husband and wife.
Well said
@@davidweissberg89 Where Quran says that? I haven't seen that, all I saw was this.
33.49 - no waiting period (Iddah) between marriage _unless_ doing sex
65.4 - Waiting period (Iddah) is 3 months Iddah for girls who are have *_not_* yet menstruated (tafsirs clarify girls *_too young_*) which means 100% there is sex based on 33.49
65.4 Tafsir Ibn Abbas
What about the waiting period of those who do *_not_* have menstruation *_because_** they are **_too young?”_* (along with those who have it not) *_because of young age,_* their waiting period is three months.
65.4-5 Tafsir Maududi
Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible.
The reason for elevating hadees ⁉️.. rather than the Words of Allaha ..The Qurran . .
absolutely true! Notice when the clergy start any presentation how many words they give to the praise of Allah vs. those words dedicated to the praise of the Prophet.
@@iii___iii Me too long back..These mullas standing in Allahas House the masjid ..and saying all about Hadees .and praising Mohammad.Not Allaha...
and uttering some things from fiqa .This is all against Qurran the words of Allaha . I hate all these mullas what so called immam of masjids ....
Hadith are a mischief 💯
Brother Salamun alykum,
Our beloved Rasool Mohammed SA, was Last Nabi for Bani Israel ( Nabi for them not for us)
We are told to follow Rasool not Nabi. Read below Aya .
( Nabi la hum - Nabi for them)
أَلَمۡ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلۡمَلَإِ مِنۢ بَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ مُوسَىٰٓ إِذۡ قَالُواْ لِنَبِىٍّ۬ لَّهُمُ ٱبۡعَثۡ لَنَا مَلِڪً۬ا نُّقَـٰتِلۡ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِۖ قَالَ هَلۡ عَسَيۡتُمۡ إِن ڪُتِبَ عَلَيۡڪُمُ ٱلۡقِتَالُ أَلَّا تُقَـٰتِلُواْۖ قَالُواْ وَمَا لَنَآ أَلَّا نُقَـٰتِلَ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ وَقَدۡ أُخۡرِجۡنَا مِن دِيَـٰرِنَا وَأَبۡنَآٮِٕنَاۖ فَلَمَّا كُتِبَ عَلَيۡهِمُ ٱلۡقِتَالُ تَوَلَّوۡاْ إِلَّا قَلِيلاً۬ مِّنۡهُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِيمُۢ بِٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ (٢٤٦)
WE ARE STILL FOLLOWING NABI NOT RASOOL UNFORTUNATELY.
That makes no sense.
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle used to visit Umm Haram bint Milhan, who would offer him meals. Umm Haram was the wife of Ubada bin As-Samit. Allah's Apostle, once visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head. Then Allah's Apostle slept, and afterwards woke up smiling. Umm Haram asked, What causes you to smile, O Allah's Apostle? He said. Some of my followers who (in a dream) were presented before me as fighters in Allah's cause (on board a ship) amidst this sea caused me to smile; they were as kings on the thrones (or like kings on the thrones). (Ishaq, a sub-narrator is not sure as to which expression the Prophet used.) Umm Haram said, O Allah's Apostle! Invoke Allah that he makes me one of them. Allah's Apostle invoked Allah for her and slept again and woke up smiling. Once again Umm Haram asked, What makes you smile, O Allah's Apostle? He replied, Some of my followers were presented to me as fighters in Allah's Cause, repeating the same dream. Umm Haram said, O Allah's Apostle! Invoke Allah that He makes me one of them. He said, You are amongst the first ones. It happened that she sailed on the sea during the Caliphate of Mu'awiya bin Abi Sufyan, and after she disembarked, she fell down from her riding animal and died.
Of course Muhammad of the Qur'an is Jesus a Muhammad is used as euphemism for Messiah(Christ) and rhroughout the 114 Surahs Jesus is presented as the Christ(Messiah) fortold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by the Children of Israel...
It is tarqa not turaqqa. أَوْ تَرْقَىٰ فِي
السَّمَاءِ.
Secondly, it is مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ, not "mithlihi" as you mispronounced. I'm surprised that you are an Arab and talking to uphold the primacy of the Quran and yet you have no hold on the Quran. Moreover, you use no honorific before Muhammad. Has the Quran asked to not respect the Prophet?
Please explain what you mean by honorific before the prophet’s name.
Regarding pronunciation, who’s is the correct one and why?
Finally I don’t hold any supreme position. Humility is a trait that all Muslims should hold on to.
15:55-6: to answer the question here, even the 33:40 was not part of the Quran that Muhammad received. It says Muhammad WAS not the father of any of you men.... Muhammad could not read a verse which speaks of him in the past. Hence, the verse was added to the Quran long after Muhammad had died. A similar verse can be found in 61:6 which also uses the past tense (CAME) as a clear case of fabrication of the Quran. Therefore, it is not the Hadith was forged, parts of the Quran were forged also.
Narrated Anas: Some people from the tribe of `Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die. Bukhari 6802
A3oudoubillaah min ashjataan.
Bismillaah ❤
STOP spreading lies
about Allaah❤❤❤The Almighty.
Shame on you all.
Qoraan is The Perfect and fully detailed Word of
Allaah❤❤❤The Almighty
STOP spreading lies
about Rassoelloellaah❤❤❤
STOP promissing things in Name of
Allaah❤❤❤The Almiighty.
STOP following manmade ahadith form Bughari, Muslim, Tirmiti and all the others. STOP following man made books, fatwas and madhabs.
This is SHIRK SHIRK SHIRK.
No doubt about it.
Be careful whit your mouth. Be careful who you follow.
Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty Will INTERVENE.
The Time is near.
Woe you all manmade religion followers and claim it's form
Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty.
Brother omar why dont you reveal the identity of Muhammad in the quran who is he or what is he you know this dont hide it.
salam brother Rafiqun. I am afraid I don't understand your question. Can you please explain and/or clarify?
@@OmarRamahi2019 Brother Omar i am saying that the prophet muhammad we see in the hadith is not the same person in the quran.
The Prophet muhammad in the quran is something else it means something else so why dont you tell who he is.
@@rabbi619 The only things Allah wanted us to know about Prophet Muhammad were mentioned in the Mus'haf (aka the Qur'an). Everything else is considered historical records whose authenticity cannot be ensured.
@@OmarRamahi2019 Brother omar you know what i am talking about you are avoiding the question and trying to twist the words you understood exactly what i asked the first comment but you intentionally avoid it dosent matter if its not you then someone else will say who the praiseworthy! is.
@@rabbi619 I am really afraid that I don't understand your question. Sorry, but your accusation of me that I am trying to twist your words are unwarranted to say the least.
The Hadith about the prophet sleeping in a woman a lap is involving the maternal aunt of the prophet. This is easy to research and find out. How pathetic that these lazy researchers assert that she was not related
I hope you are not implying that I am a lazy researcher. This would be a very unfounded accusation. I did my research well. In fact, I am copying some text that I wrote in earlier message. here it is:
Regarding your claim that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet, please validate that claim. Was she the maternal aunt or the paternal aunt? Your stating that she was the Prophet’ aunt is not a proof that she was. My understanding based on historical records (on the assumption that they are correct) that the Prophet never had Umm Haram as one of his maternal or paternal aunts. I will await a validation of your claim."
No come back Ricky boy?
your arguments of rasul is weak
Salam brother Omar, with all due respect, your provided a broad statement that lacks specificity and context. This may be perceived as an attempt to discredit my presentation/arguments without providing any substantive rebuttal at all. I would welcome any challenge to my arguments, but you provided none.
@@OmarRamahi2019 quran 3 144 the word use al rusul alf lam aal altaarif it means all the rusul before him has died
@@OmarRamahi2019 I agree with all u said but here in rasul u need to bring more to the table because God said all rasul before Mohammad has died and u said angels are among his rasul is it mean they died
@@omarsalim9562I have read 3:144 carefully and it is in no way supports your assertion. If all rusul before Mohammad have died, that does not negate the possibility that there will be rusul after Mohammad. The logical construction of the verse does not support your assertion.
@@OmarRamahi2019 what is all mean
It is clear that Quran is not from God
How. Please explain
@@OmarRamahi2019 Just some examples : In verse 74 of chapter Hudhud ( سورة الهدهد ) Quran alleges an un-named prophet of God who was accompaning and giving lessons to Moses killed a little boy ( غلام ) . When Moses asked why he killed the boy that prophet allegedly answered the boy , if not killed , was going to be a sinful adult !!!!!!! ? . Doesn't that taste nonsense and criminal ? That is not revelation from . God . This is just an example from hundreds of some times cruel , some times contradicting and sometimes stupid allegations in Quran
Thanks for proving islam is false because without hadith islam is nothing
Sorry but you are not making any contribution to this forum
Hadith is not Islam. Islam is embodied in the Mus’haf
But you have the freedom to follow whatever you wish
The ignorance of this man is off the roof. Haram doesn't mean sin, it means forbidden or unlawful and Umm Haram is the Prophet's (SAW) maternal aunty so there is nothing wrong with him sleeping on her lap. This only proves how ignorant hadith rejecters are.
Please read the earlier threads. This haram subject had been put to rest.
Nevertheless good manners call for avoiding leveling insults such as your accusation that I am ignorant. This accusation is not an argument. So please keep your comments respectful.
Have you no shame? Why do you disregard the Prophet's Sunna? Do you think you will know Islam if not of for the Prophet and his Sunnah?@@OmarRamahi2019
@@dmitry5233 The only reason people make arguments like yours is to validate the "science" of hadiths. You are in grave danger of committing shirk. “A good tree doesn't produce rotten fruit, and a rotten tree doesn't produce good fruit." We must throw away and reject all man made hadiths/gossip. Quran is the true word of God, full stop.
HADITHS should be a dead topic for us on this forum when this guy spent most of 1hr and 49mins clearing how hadiths are contradictory to Quran..
When he talks about QUR'AN from 13:20 - 15:20 mins He is saying about the verse (33:40) that it means end of NABI AND NOT RASOOL..exactly what MIRZA GHULAM AHMED SAID AND HIS FOLLOWERS SAY..
Please let's not get our minds contaminated by these kind of people..just because he is saying hadiths are contradictory to Quran (what we like hearing) it does not mean he understands the QUR'AN right too..
please note very carefully that the Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet. This is completely different from what I said in this presentation. It appears to me that the Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion has a belief that contradicts the Mushaf (aka the Qur'an). Also, kindly note that my understanding is that this forum is for those who are interested in truths.
and Hadith may be a dead topic for you, but it is a live topic for the majority of Muslims.
Mr. Omar is right. as he mention " Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet".
Allah 's messenger will keep coming to give the Quran message of Allah to the people i will mention some Ayat references i hope you will ponder on it .
See Chapter 2 : 151 -152. Such blessing as the sending of a messenger from among you to recite from our revelations, and to cleanse you, to teach you the Scripture and wisdom, and to teach you what you never knew. Therefore, you shall remember Me so that I may remember you, and be thankful to Me. And be appreciative.
And for every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. (Qur'ân 10:47)
And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e., do not worship Taghut besides Allah)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). (Qur'ân 16:36).
Allah s.w.t. only mention few messengers in the Quran by name , but the messenger will keep coming among us they will only give message and teach from the Al-Quran / Al-Furqan. the prophet hood is end now .
Mr. Omar is right. as he mention " Ahmadiyya group/sect/religion does not believe in the finality of Prophethood in that Prophet Muhammad was not the last prophet".
Allah 's messenger will keep coming to give the Quran message of Allah to the people i will mention some Ayat references i hope you will ponder on it .
See Chapter 2 : 151 -152. Such blessing as the sending of a messenger from among you to recite from our revelations, and to cleanse you, to teach you the Scripture and wisdom, and to teach you what you never knew. Therefore, you shall remember Me so that I may remember you, and be thankful to Me. And be appreciative.
And for every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a Messenger; when their Messenger comes, the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. (Qur'ân 10:47)
And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e., do not worship Taghut besides Allah)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). (Qur'ân 16:36).
Allah s.w.t. only mention few messengers in the Quran by name , but the messenger will keep coming among us they will only give message and teach from the Al-Quran / Al-Furqan. the prophet hood is end now .
Where is finality of Prophethood in the Quran?
1. Haram (/həˈrɑːm, hæˈrɑːm, hɑːˈrɑːm, -ˈræm/;[1][2] Arabic: حَرَام, ḥarām, [ħaˈraːm]) is an Arabic term meaning ‘forbidden’.[3]: 471 This may refer to: either something sacred to which access is forbidden to the people who are not in a state of purity or who are not initiated into the sacred knowledge; or, in direct contrast, to an evil and thus "sinful action that is forbidden to be done". The term also denotes something "set aside", thus being the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew concept קדוש, qadoš and the concept of sacer (cf. sacred) in Roman law and religion.
2. Umm Hiram bint Milhan (Arabic: أم حرام بنت ملحان; ), was the aunt (Arabic: خالة) and one of the companions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon Him).
Is Omar Ramahi really that ignorant to know that Umm Haram was the aunt of Rasulullah (Peace be upon Him)? The word haram doesn't only mean sinful, it means forbidden and it also means sacred. Omar Ramahi indeed makes some compelling arguments in many cases. But why sprinkle your statements with falsehood and wrong statements/ A simple search through google could inform him that Umm Haram binte Milhan was a mahram woman to Rasulullah (Peace be upon him). Did he deliberately include false statements to bolster his arguments against hadiths? There are already so many problems with hadiths that he didn't need to mix falsehood with truth to support his argument.
Another misinformation that he gave was that he said all Rasuls were humans. But Quran clearly points out that angels (Malaika) were also sent as Mursalin (messengers). Some verses from the Noble Quran that tell us about angels being 'messengers' as well are as follows:
Allah chooseth from the angels messengers, and (also) from mankind. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Seer. 22:75
And Our messengers came unto Abraham with good news. They said: Peace! He answered: Peace! and delayed not to bring a roasted calf. 11:69
And when Our messengers came unto Lot, he was distressed and knew not how to protect them. He said: This is a distressful day. 11:77
Put forward your case truthfully. Don't mix falsehood with truth just to make your arguments stronger. There are already many evidences that hadiths have been tampered with a lot. You don't need to lie to make your case.
Can you please specify where I lied in my presentation. You are referring to historical documents but I am referring to the Mushaf. There may be errors in interpretation but the claim of lie is indeed very troubling
Regarding Umm Haram, sorry but you are referring to historical documents, some of which claimed that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet! I would love to see the validation for
Finally, why should I trust the Umm Haram Hadith in light of the extensive Hadith fabrication cottage industry which churned more than 600,000 hadiths according to al Bukhari himself
@@OmarRamahi2019 You mentioned that Umm haram was not a relative of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam). But she was his aunt. You have mentioned that all Rasuls are humans, but Angels have also been referred to as mursalin in the Quran. You have tried to give an impression that the word haram only means sin or sinful. But the word haram has several meanings. It also means sacred. You have tried to ridicule the name Umm Haram by saying it means "Mother of Sin", and you have insinuated that she might have been a woman of dodgy reputation. But you know very well that Quran has used the word haram in other senses as well. For example, the Baitullah of Makkah have been referred to as Masjidil haram. By your logic if Umm haram means "mother of Sin" then what would be the meaning of the phrase "Masjidil haram"? The criticism of hadith should be academic, factual and epistemology based. Shallow point scoring and playing with word meanings should be avoided.
@@naseremdad4231 thank you brother. I am glad that now you at least came down from your troubling and seriously disturbing accusation that I am a liar. We should be very cautious of such accusations as the Mus’haf clearly warns us.
Now that you claim haram could mean sacred is unfounded. I cannot be certain as to the exact translation of sacred in Arabic, perhaps muqaddas (مقدس), but I can assure you, that by referring to the Mus’haf strictly and nothing else, that haram does not mean sacred at ALL. Haram implies something that is eternally forbidden and when appeared connected with the baiet (البيت,) as in al-bait al-haram (البيت الحرام ) then it is referring to the status of Makkah as a place in which mayhem and killing and violence are completely prohibited (i.e., haram), hence the association of the word haram with Makka/Bakkah (please see 3:97 where Allah specifically and explicitly states that whoever enters this place became fully protected from any harm; a status that was given to Makkah/Bakkah long before the Prophet was born). Also, please look at 5:21 where Allah refers to الارض المقدسة . Therefore, muqaddas is different from haram. In summary, and by putting all the verses that have the word haram together and observing them, we come to the conclusion that haram means something that is prohibited or eternally forbidden with the sin implication.
Regarding your claim that Umm Haram was the aunt of the Prophet, please validate that claim. Was she the maternal aunt or the paternal aunt? Your stating that she was the Prophet’ aunt is not a proof that she was. My understanding based on historical records (on the assumption that they are correct) that the Prophet never had Umm Haram as one of his maternal or paternal aunts. I will await a validation of your claim.
And sadly, you conclude by additional ad hominem--by additional accusation of “shallow point scoring” and “playing with words meanings”. I recommend strongly that we focus on the arguments than polluting such an important discussion by unfounded and hurtful accusations that, again, Allah warns us against in His divine revelation. Isn’t it enough that the Hadith smeared the Prophet’s history and reputation? Or has smear campaigns, under the guise of protecting the religion form polluters, has become acceptable?
Last but not least, don’t Muslims have a methodology in our approach to calling others to the path of Allah ( سبيل ربك ) specifically in 16:125
ٱدْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِٱلْحِكْمَةِ وَٱلْمَوْعِظَةِ ٱلْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَـٰدِلْهُم بِٱلَّتِى هِىَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِۦ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِٱلْمُهْتَدِينَ
Shouldn’t this verse be also applicable to when Muslims engage with each other? Or only when engaging with non-Muslims.
and in reference to my statement that every rasool (i.e., messenger) is a human, yes, this was incorrect on my part as I rushed into saying that. I am fully aware of the Mus'haf minitioning that Allah sent rusul (plural of messenger) that were not necessarily humans (انسان ) or bashar (بشر) as in the case of those who brought glad tidings to Ibrahim, or those who brought warnings to the pepole of Lut, or the angel who was sent as a herald to Maryam telling her about the coming of Isa, or the Nuthur who were sent to the pepole of Noah (or even before him).
@@OmarRamahi2019
1. The Arabic language has two separate words, ḥaram (Arabic: حَرَم) and ḥarām (Arabic: حَرَام) both derived from the same triliteral Semitic root Ḥ-R-M. Both of these words can mean "forbidden" and/or "sacred". in a general way, but each has also developed some specialized meanings (ḥarām most often means "forbidden by law"). Mr. Ramahi, you are very well aware that in Arabic a word can have several meanings and several shades of meaning. It depends on the context what meaning we shall derive. just as Masjidil haram does not mean "Masjid of sin", similarly Umm Haram does not mean 'mother of sin". Besides, the word sacred in English has several synonyms with differences in nuances. I agree muqddas means sacred. But other words can also mean sacred as well. But the nuances will be different. There are more than dozen words to refer to a camel in Arabic. So, more than one word in Arabic can mean sacred. but there would be differences in nuances and shades. No serious scholar of Arabic (be they Muslim or not) would say that the phrase Umm haram means mother of sins.
2. Umm Harâm bint Malhân ibn Khâlid ibn Zayd ibn Harâm.
She was a member of the tribe of al-Khazraj, al-Ansâr, Medina. She was the sister of Umm Salim, the aunt of Anas ibn Malik, and the wife of `Ubâdah Ibn as-Sâmit. An-Nawawî narrated in the explanation of Sahih Muslim that Umm Salim and Umm Harâm were the Prophet's aunts from the maternal side either by suckling or by blood. Being the aunt of the Prophet, the Prophet (pbuh) used to visit her. Anas Ibn Mâlik reported, "Once, the Messenger of Allah, (pbuh) came to our home where there were only my mother, aunt Umm Haram and I. He said; let me lead you in prayer "It was not a time of prayer by then."(Reported by Muslim).
Perhaps, Mr. Ramahi, you have heard the name of imam An Nawawi. His famous explanation on Sahih Muslim contains the information that Umm Haram was Prophet's (Peace be upon Him). The problem with today's You tube celebrities is that they don't do their research and just throw doubts on traditional scholarship.
Very imfotive. Bring another professional academic. To discuss
It looks to me Omar is from either Egypt or Syria and people from that region think that they know Arabic perfectly well, but Quran versus and language needs many years of study and not like Standard modern Arabic, so please
Dear Ilyas. Can you elaborate more. I really didn’t understand your point
Salaam brother per your argument that Dr Omar is a non so called from "Arab speaking" nation then, using same logic, islam , or precisely The Book namely Quran, is not the "ajams" then?