Is your PC now Obsolete?? Let's set some things straight!
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- Is your PC obsolete just because something new came out?
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When to upgrade:
1. When it stop working
2. Not meeting minimum requirements of new game/software you want to use
3. You just realize you are rich AF
I upgrade mine when it starts struggling with games.
4. You actually need a new PC that is around the same spec as your old one and you have budget to spare.
game til it dies xD
5. Wait for third party benchmarks
my no. 2 in 2009 was FFXIV
here my dad still using gtx 1050ti and if I say that's obsolete his response is , "so are you"
thats deep
im still on a 1070. still gets the job done most of the time lol
I just bought a laptop with 8 cores and a 1660ti
I mean I have a 970 which still runs every game I throw at it.
I mean I am using a 1650super ..but it's really bother me how he is using that gpu to play some of the demanding games and getting like 30 ish fps
My PC is 8 years old (i7-4930k). The only thing I've done is upgrade the RAM to 32GB, Installed an SSD and a 1080ti. It runs all games at max or high detail settings. People get sucked in by marketing hype and benchmark results. The reality is, most old PC's if paired with enough RAM and a GPU will still feel fast.
I have a i5 4440s(7years old) with 16 gb ram and GTX 1660 ti i think I ll upgrade it in 2024-25 with a ryzen 7800x untill then i am golden
@@UltraSolarGod my pc is 2 years old for me (prebuilt) and its an i-3 9100f D:
@@dani-op8oo noice 🔥🔥
Got i5 4570 gtx 650 with 8gb ram (prebuilt) got it probably late 2013 or early 2014, the setup was still running till it died a few days go.
@@Fr4nz2K RIP i saw a prebuild on amazon in my country which will be the perfect succesor for you
The fact that I could double all the specs of my computer without breaking bank was a good indicator I needed an upgrade.
The dream. Good on you bud
My friend tells me the processor Im going to buy is +- 4x as fast as the one I have now. And also 4x the RAM I have atm. Apparently my 8gb RAM isnt good enough anymore today xD
thats why i like not buying new things for long stretches, saves money overall and you get to be excited by how much stuff gets better.
@@FieryKanata you genuinely only need 16gb for modern gaming. 32 if you want to model/animate on the side. 64 is only necessary for movie-tier rendering, your over spending if you're getting that much
@@dankbonkripper2845 RAM isn't going to break my bank. Especially not because I don't need a GPU :)
When to upgrade: when you can’t play the games you want comfortably anymore.
MY last upgrade wasn't even an upgrade. It was build a slightly newer system to give my other half a good Hand me down, not a 15yo dell with a Core 2 duo.,
same Idea I have lol
@@TheRathead80 best excuse to upgrade lol
Or just don't worry about playing newer games which are generally junk anyway.
@@FlyboyHelosim i mean most newer games ive played havent been junk in the slightest
If we both throw our PCs off a cliff, mine is just as fast as yours.
mine is powered by kettle bells, that means mines is faster!
Not on Earth
@Caerus Tyr Only if you neglect air resistance.
not really i have 5lb dumbbell in mine 😁
@Caerus Tyr ...
A pc is never obsolete, because it all depends on the software/games you are trying to use and your definition of playable
Exactly. I gave my brother my old PC which has a 1060. He set it up in the family room. His son plays Hogwarts on it at low settings.
In another (more recent) video where you asked what kind of videos we'd like to see, I would LOVE to see you doing builds and benchmarks with so-called "obsolete" hardware that can be found in new old stock or used markets. I know you were in LTTs "Scrapyard Wars" so something similar to that but not necessarily in a competition format.
The "obsolete" PC he would build would outperform my PC.
But, at least, I only paid $150 for a 2200g system. Take that, Jay!
I was a little taken back by the new build I used a Ryzen 5 1600, MSI B450 and a EVGA GTX460 that I had lying around and it plays all the games I like really smooth. WOW at 60fps, Valorant at over 200 fps and Rocket League at a smooth 60 fps. I never would have thought this possible. Cheers to really old video cards.
@@crom558 those older GTX cards are still really good. Pairing it with newer hardware like you did, definitely gave it a LOT more breathing room. My original plan was to build a new PC around my 1070... sadly, the 1070 died before I could do a new build... And, because of the GPU shortage, I ended up saying "f-it" and I bought a prebuilt, so I could actually get a GPU, lol
@@crom558 i know this is 5 month old comment but how are you doing with cpu temps? i have a ryzen 5 1600 af, B550 and a 1660 Super but have been running into an issue with the cpu overheating while gaming. I've been told i need to upgrade the cpu because the 1600 af is outdated.
@@joshuamw93 my temps have been really cool but it probably has a lot to do with the games I run, which consist of WOW, some steam games and PS2 emulation. Aside from that normal every day to day use like browsing and emails run really fast. Hope that helps.
Upgrade when you can’t play what you want at the settings you want something better will always be around the corner
^ This
Couldn’t agree more with u bro. Also thanks for saving me 1k.
Absolutely! It's all driven by software and you upgrade when your hardware no longer runs your software. I just upgraded this summer from an eleven year old AMD Phenom II X4 945 because I could no longer run the software I wanted. My new rig is Ryzen 3600 on a B450 board and baring some major revolution in software should last me another 10 years.
So basically every gen then
I'm honestly so glad that I couldn't get my hands on a 3080. After one month of trying to get it, I gave up and only after that was when I realized my 1070 ti still runs everything I want perfectly fine lol. Now I don't want to upgrade at all.
It's only time to upgrade when your current system can no longer do what ever it is you mainly do at a level your happy with
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This. I can still run all my games at 60 fps at the resolution and settings I am happy with, so there is no need for me to upgrade just yet. Probably the few things I would upgrade would really mean I have to upgrade basically everything since I am using an old ass FX series cpu and mobo and my ram is still ddr3, so I would need to upgrade pretty much everything, including my AIO watercooling since the bracket needed for AM4 sockets is no longer manufactured and coolermaster lied about it being widely available.
Finally got a Zephyrus g14 after 10 years of Intel 2nd Gen i5 and GT540, it couldn't playback video stable anymore
i couldn't agree more..
When thinking about upgrading ask yourself these questions
1. Does my current build run what i want to run
2. If i upgrade will i see any improvements that matter to me
3. What sacrifices am i willing to deal with to stick to my budget
an for the love of God please do a lot of research from different sources and compare numbers
so i bought a prebuilt and it for the last few months it has been running games not that well. like fps dropping massively on lowest graphics and freezing. i have 8gb of ram and not sure much other specs. would just selling and buying a new pc be smarter or should i upgrade parts?
@@crystalparrot4985 It depends on how much your PC is.
You can upgrade but the cost is like buying a PC depending on parts you want to upgrade. You might as well just build/buy a new one.
You can upgrade it by adding RAM and Adding SSD and maybe buying a GPU for it. But if youre gonna replace the CPU and motherboard its a bit expensive. If youre gonna total all of this cost or even at least the first three then its much better to just save up and build a new one
@@crystalparrot4985 8 GBs of ram is simply not enough for current games. 16 GB of ram is standard nowadays. unless you are talking VRAM in your GPU. then still 8 GBs is low for games coming out now currently. 12-16GB of VRAM is what a person buying a new GPU would aim for to have high frame rates at high graphic settings. a prebuilt PC isnt terrible especially for people who are nervous about spending a lot of money and not knowing a lot about how to actually put it together. some prebuilt PCs dont build with the idea that the consumer will want to upgrade their PC down the line. this means enough room in the case to change a part for something else and compatability on parts.
One and Two is how I upgrade my PC.
2020 December I upgraded.
My old computer was running Cyberpunk at 30fps on medium.
My new computer runs it at 60fps on Ultra with medium Ray tracing.
Now 3 years later my computer is still going strong. Just upgraded my ram from 16gigs to 32gigs. Sadly my mother board only supports DDR3 2666mhz.
I want to see a video that diagnoses computer components in the perspective of finding out which component is the current bottle neck, as well as looking at software efficiencies that can be done.
My mom had a new baby, I guess I'm obsolete now
Lol, you poor bastard.
Nah.. its more like ..That old crap wont do what's needed anymore ..time for another baby, who actually will!!
lol g1
You're not obsolete... you're Legacy!
hahahaha
I think videos like this one really show that Jay is interested in helping his viewers, not in satisfying the needs of manufacturers.
No manufacturer would support this message, because they want people to buy as much of the newest stuff as they can.
Thank you for being honest and showing you're primarily loyal to your audience.
Yea, Jay really seems like a nice person.
Not to mention that a major advantage of pc in terms of price is their modularity, so you only need to spend the money when you can afford to, manufacturers would love to get away from giving choice to consumers and force you to spend a lump sum on a pre-built machine
Very well said.😊
I mean realistically today manufacturers have enough demand they don't need jay shilling atm. him keeping this message consistent even when sales are low and manufacturers would like/need more people buying means a lot more than this video at this time (which ofc all kudos to Jay he's always consistent and proven loyal to his fans)
Lol, why wouldn’t he? He makes money making videos, not selling hardware.
you're simply too damn good, professionally and as a regular guy too. such a necessary voice in tech media.
thanks jay & team for the video
He is one of the few tech channels I like/trust cough cough techsmartt
I just had my eyes opened regarding older hardware. A friend built a new PC but couldn't get a gou at a decent price so I gave him a GTX 960 from ten years ago. It runs incredibly well. Far better than I would have expected from a card like that.
When Jay mentioned that 8 year old FX 8350 and DDR3, it was like he was talking to me personally.
And me
@@Kebob- sammeeeee
Imagine having a fx 8320
Imagine having an FX 4300.
Currently is me.
i'm still running a Phenom 955 but it still holds up well for me
Something is only obsolete if it is completely incapable of doing what you want it to do at an acceptable level
True.
That puts some perspective into it...gtx 980 is still hanging in there so i guess ill stick with it for now
3080 came out..... well now I need to upgrade my obsolete card to keep playing CSGO
Can't stop my mobile 1050 from running downrezzed games lol
A beautiful and accurate description.
Still rocking my 3770k build I did back in 2013 when I first found your channel. Since then, I've upgraded the GPU and added an aio when I decided to overclock. Currently gathering parts for a new build, but for being 8+ years old this pc still does everything I need it to.
Most games are designed to run on a wide range of hardware.
I like to upgrade every 5 years or so. GPU first, then everything else the next year. Usually works out well. Also gives you time to save up for a full upgrade.
Just upgraded from my 3770k today because my GTX 780 broke down and stopped working. For anything but new games it wasnt terrible still lol.
I was still amazed how much my 3770 could do with an ssd. And Nvidia 1650
Thank you Jay, I have a laptop 1050 and have enjoyed using it for years, and running integrated graphics before that, I'll be ready to upgrade when the times right and not out of peer pressure.
"Just because something new comes out doesn't mean the old one gets slower"
Apple:...
Comment of the day.
Enough said!
All the companies do it, apple got caught
Something I have told my customers since the early 90s. Only time this doesn’t apply is if the cache on a HDD/cpu starts failing (a rare occurrence in the whole scheme of things), but that’s then a case to upgrade/replace.
Apple: " Hold my beer "
"Old, not obsolete" - Terminator
I was thinking of the same quote!
"Obsolete, not old" - Terminator
Also the terminator when asked if he could beat the TX: "Unlikely, I am an obsolete design" lol
"genisys sucked so stfu" - the trolls probably
I so agree with you. I build my own computer and I love it since it does what I want.
I'm putting my first pc together and hearing Jay talk about "outdated" hardware from a year ago isn't that old reminded me that I'm getting a 9600k. While it's not bad I'm pretty sure it was the bare minimum I could get away with sooooo...
Basically when ur computer is telling u “let me die bro” is when u should consider upgrading
I want to get my 6yo laptop an SSD, but CrystalDiskInfo says that my current hard drive is in good health...
btw nice number of likes.
rip my pentium 4 quit me last year so i quit console gaming lol
Your comment made my day xD
My laptop doing that rn. A secondhand ROG laptop from like 2014. Trying to learn a lot so I can build my own PC
@Fredpool Rogers mine too nfs underground was looking real to me!!! XD
_"This is my PC. There are many like it but this one is mine..."_
custom cooled 980 ti/4960k. gang shit
Full metal jacket, baby :)
Yeah I'm the same, I've only upgraded when it doesn't meet the min req's for the games I like to play. I got almost 10yrs out of my last PC lol.
Got myself a Ryzen 5 2600 and a rtx 2060 couple years ago. Imo a perfect bang for the buck combination at that time, and it still is.
For me, who enjoys 1080p gaming with a 144hz Gsync monitor that combo does the job perfectly fine. Actually really impressed. :)
me with my GTX 750: "mmm yes, the 2080 is obsolete"
based 750 poster.
Same but I have a 730💀
I think if a console outperforms your pc, your pc is obselete.
I'll keep quiet with my GeForce 660....
750 gang
I'm still on a Ryzen 2600 and a 1070Ti and have never thought of upgrading cuz it does all the things I want to do.
nice :)
Still running i5 3470+GTX 770 4Gb, still fine, been running it for 6 years+ now, still holds up!
i bought a Ryzen 2600 last week because it does all the things i want to do
1600X and a 1070 and I feel exactly the same way.
3600 and 1080 and still rocking 1440p
Just built a pc with two year old parts. It was in the budget and I love it. Thanks for for all you build guides. I was my first!
Bought a Haswell PC last year
I am a PC enthusiast and a photographer and the same applies to both hobbies. Don't upgrade unless your current gear stops working or is not getting the job done. I recently upgraded to a Dell T5610 workstation with a GTX 1070 because the old system was not doing what I needed it to since I got into video editing. A local animation studio was selling off a bunch of workstations at the same time too so it all worked out. But it was never about bragging rights. Although dual Xeons with 128 GBs of RAM is nice. :)
"Brand loyalty only hurts the consumer" -- Some guy who taught me economics
happen everytime.. brand loyalty happen when thing work and don't faill.. which next gen is a issue... since it keep failing..
This is so true man. I'm a big strix products fan and this month it really hurt my wallet because I wanted to go with strix stuff and I could get the same stuff for cheaper
That doesn´t make sense. Brand loyalty is just customers being loyal to a brand if it ensures reliability in service and products. Bad management hurts customers and brand loyalty. In other words brand loyalty is a passive phenomenon. Brand loyalty "gets" not "does"
@@Marauder1981 Indeed, you understand the concept. I dropped out, so probably better than me lol. but There are lengthy lectures and many books written on the ties between what you are talking about and creating brand loyalty if you are interested.
I came to know if my PC is obsolete.
But, instead, I learned a valuable life lesson. No lie.
Mine is lol. I have a gt 610 and i5 3rd gen lol
@brosif29 i can't even run cyberpunk setup
Remember bro. Your never obsolete with the homies.
@@sikeitsgolem8268 i don't have a gpu, even better, a Chip 😀
@@Mondschein5769 then u Don't have pc bro. Sometimes having a dead limb is worse then not having one
I usually upgrade between 6-7 years. Reason is because tech seems to change dramatically about 5 years, but always hang on to your tech for a while until the reviews are in.
Great video, I got a pre-built from microcenter during peak covid, and definitely spent more than what it is today, but it has a ryzen 5 5600x, 3060, 1tb nvme, and 32gb ddr4 ram at 3200mhz. Really felt like i "needed" to upgrade since it was a pre-built, but after watching this I'm glad I haven't been totally sucked in to the new upgrades.
i'm still running an i7 4770k and a 980ti, i would like to upgrade but honestly it's still doing just fine
I was running the same rig but decided it was time to go for 3080 but with an amd processor. Only regret is I didn't wait a couple weeks to get the new amd processor.
I was running the same rig too. Now I am rocking a 5900x and a 3070 and it is night and day in performance.
I have the same processor with a 1050ti. It's no longer happy with 60fps at medium settings. So I've just bought a 1650 super.
My goal has always been just to have my pc keep up with consoles. But with them going ray tracing among other things that requires a full system overhaul. I'm not ready for that spend just yet. So the 1650 is a nice stop gap.
I game in 1080p anyway.
I built mine in 2015
i7 4790k - $335
Cooling Fan - $35
Motherboard - $150
250gb ssd - $107
Case - $66
GeForce GTX 970 - $340
Power Supply - $88
Memory - $120
DVD Drive $20
i5 3570k at 4.2Ghz and a GTX1070 and happy as Larry still
"your computer isn't suddenly obsolete"
Nope, just been gradually getting there over the past 10 years.
You are not alone
sucks the hill got steeper tho
IKR
Got a pentium dual core without a dedicated GPU all the way back from 2008. Still works fine I guess lol.
Still rocking my gtx 980
I'm still on x58 and I'm still very happy with the performance 😁 6 core 12 thread at 4.2ghz still goes well and even though it's ddr3 it's triple channel and 2000mhz
Just hoping that I'll be able to upgrade my 6 years old GTX970 which I had to reuse in my new build to anything somewhat recent and within economic range, SOON!
I did the same with a 960. Upgraded from a FX 8350 to a Ryzen 5600X. Most of my games are cpu hogs so they run soooo much better.
I unironically think Jay is a good looking guy. Maybe he needs to hear this more often.
Why are you geh
Simp
@@Mr.DMZ. and what if he was what’s wrong with that 😤
@@drac149 are you geh ?
I'm more of a Phil man myself.
3:07 "im super happy that you have choice"
me: seeing the gt710 is the only GPU in stock
Bruh that's litterally my gpu atm
This was made around 3rd quarter 2020. Gpu prices were bad but the shit hit the fan within the last 2 months. With the global chip shortage, even manufacturers are having trouble with stock for their current cards let alone new ones!
I'm still rocking a 610.. it's not great
Thats the gpu i have rn lol trying to cop a 3060 ti
Hey, don't knock the GT 710, bro. My 70 year old dad has one so he can watch CZcams at 1080p on his 15 year old pre-built with onboard that got tearing at anything above 480p. (I am kidding, but also serious, it's a great bargain for old people computers, £40 for a crap graphics card that does what he needs it to sure beats buying a new computer)
Jay you and your team are great. Always letting us know when we need to pump the breaks and stop impulse buying. I signed up for the evga list for an rtx3080 ftw back when the cards came out and finally got the email to grab mine. I went through the check out and looked at the price (about 1000 usd) and thought to myself, my 2070 super does so well there is no way I can justify $1000 for a new card.
The only response to this in opposition would be that at the time if you did find one for $1k you could've probably turned around and sold your 2070 for 800-1200 just because other people were that desperate...maybe could've even made a few bucks.
I am just now starting to build my first of. I bought a EVGA 3070Ti ultra. Idk if I went overkill or not but I just wanted something nice
Got the same card love it no complaints
I bet you're glad you didn't buy it in retrospective now lol
Literally just upgraded my i7 4770k running on a Z37 HD3 mobo.
Bought it in late 2013, and the only upgrade since has been replacing the 780gtx with a 1070gtx in 2019.
It still runs everything I play.
Only reason I'm upgrading is I word from home now and it's on 16 hours a day, and I want it to have a long retirement as my daughters PC.
It performs a heap better than people expect.
Jay is that friend that talks sense into you when you're just about to go on another unnecessary hardware buying spree. We all need that friend.
Yes, but sometimes when your 2700x finally kills the VRM in the cheap UD3 motherboard you need to replace it with a Aorus x570 Master. At least that’s what I told my wife today. Mmmm shiny ...
@@brucegordon2985 Hehe. Good move.
@@brucegordon2985 Still rocking my 2700x on a b450. Couldn't be happier. A gpu change is the only thing I'm contemplating from Amd or waiting entirely for the next generation to compare again. Not digging what Nvidia has this go around.
@@alpsalish nvidia doesn't have shit 😂
@@sharifnasser7635 If you're talking availability i agree but if you're taking about performance then youre dreaming
people on the newegg discord server are actually pretty nice, i posted my pc build/written specs, and the replies back surprised me. they suggested the parts that i should upgrade, but they also told me i should only upgrade if i feel its necessary, they didnt try and categorize my pc as obsolete, poor,, or not to their liking. they left out all their personal feelings about the build, so huge respect to the newegg discord community
i've revisit this all i can say this thank you jayz you gave me a financial peace in me. my ryzen 7 2700x is still going strong. i'm looking forward upgrading my rx590 very very soon next year after i do my taxes
Can you do a video on what to do when you upgrade your system and you have those leftover parts? (real old parts and/or modern parts) Recycle? Resell? Reuse? DIY project?
Queue the terminator scene: "Old. Not obsolete."
Maybe something positive did come out of that movie
Hey i get it cause my pc is npt obsolete just like the terminator was not obsolete like he said in that terrible movie they killed jon connor in
Quote*
@@LuKaS2oo9 Cue*
@@CesarAMAD If you cant see anything good about the movie or franchise youre either playing dumb or dumb. Both of which still equal dumb. ;)
I have builds for my kids at my house and theirs. That way when I upgrade, say, a video card, everyone gets an upgrade down the line. It has made my upgrades far more rewarding because multiple people win.
That’s how “old “ stuff becomes not old to people who don’t use demanding programs
That’s exactly how I justify my upgrades although it’s my wife that gets the hand me downs
I do this with my friends. Buddy got my 1080 when I got a 2080 Super.
Reminds me of movie PLATFORM..
I did the same thing with my ryzen system now I have a home media pc. My little girl has a old "kid gaming rig" .
Exactly. Great video... listen to his advice. I've known Jayz channel for years and now watching his newer 2020/2021 videos. I've been building PCs and into technology since 2011~. Running R7 3700x + GTX 1080 + 16GB DDR4 3200mhz right now. Beast mode (y).
Thanks for this. I'm on my first build. I'm not looking to get expensive equipment. I'm not looking for a 3080 or a $1,000 or $2,000 graphics card. I'm getting what works for me
You just should have fun with it.
Me: Looks at my FX-8350, "He's talking about us!"
I still have my FX-8370 build running as a test ESXi server.
Still one of the best chips ever made. Was ahead of its time
I'm still running my 8300 with a 1050 Ti at 1440x900. Damn setup is still serving me very well to this day (though admittedly, I need to upgrade very soon here as the fan on my PSU is starting to give out).
For real... my pc goes black screen if I have a game and CZcams on the same time
You mean my H67 with i5-2600?
I just want GPU’s to go back to normal prices
And i just want to have enough cash to build a mid range pc, but noooo
It is not just GPU's. I am a wannabe woodworker. Wood has just about tripled in price. I use woodworking as therapy. Can't do that any more. Gas has gone up as well as everything else. See...No.46 is doing a good job. Better than No.45!
There, there little bear
The one I bought was around $250 when I ordered it in amazon. Now it's "worth," over $700.
Bought a GTX 1660 for about $270 before it got crazy, now it's $650-700 lmao
I realise this video is at least a couple of years old, but the message remains. The model numbers and specs change, but the story and advice are constant.
It reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 60s and 70s. Cars have always triggered competitiveness in their owners, but those decades, I think, peaked out the rivalries, with FORU divisions at GM (two of which have disappeared since) fought Ford, Chrysler, and American Motors and one another for bragging rights at drag strips - and public thouroughfares - all oveer North America.
To a degree, designing extra performance in products benefits customers as well as the sales of the manufacturers, but, as you pointed out, advances are sometimes miniscule and even negatively effective.
I personally am trying the ols hotrodder's trick, combining old parts from several sources, to try to squeeze more performance out of a beater.
I absolutely love your videos just because of how much you appreciate older hardware. My pc has a gtx 1060 that I've had for about 4 years now, and this past year started struggling because I play more vr games than anything else on my pc. But I still love that 1060 because if I didn't play a ton of vr, I personally wouldn't have needed anything stronger for mabye a few more years. I have a 3050 coming in soon and I'm super excited for it :')
Weeb
I feel like this is less about when to upgrade your PC and more on not being an elitist tool.
Yup... I got caught up with what a 'friend' told me about my build lol Like yeh there was A FEW things that needed work over time but the elitist are just in a completely different headspace. They're out of touch with reality in terms of budget atleast lol
Some people fall for the placebo effect. I have a buddy that will fire up a game we played before because there was an update. He won't read the update and he'll tell me how nice the graphics are now. The graphics are the same, the update was inventory optimization, drop chance or something to that effect.
Speaking of being elistist upgrade your pfp to the mk 7.5 golf looks way better than the mk 7
I noticed this too... I came here to find out if I needed to upgrade and now I just feel like I did something wrong lmao
yeah when its blue-screening every other boot
I'm 100% confident, that the car scene and PC builders are guilty of this 🤦♂️
Cars are more and more like PCs on wheels, so... ^^
@@ZeHoSmusician As someone that is into both. I can attest that sadly this is the truth
Everything in life. A cinephile with this projector or a audiophile with this stereo or a basshead with these subs instead of those. Consoles. TVs etc...
@@iiSup3rior audiophiles maybe less so, depending on how they approach their hobby. You can get amazing sound quality with 40 years old used hardware for a couple hundred bucks . Try doing that with cars or computers. Of course you could also spend the price of a brand new Audi A3 on new Headphones and Amps every year...
The car scene and the pc scene are basically the same 😂😂 i got shit for my inpreza outback. But at the end of the day i loved that car more than anything. Same thing as i get shit for having a ryzen 5 1600 CPU. But i love it. I doo need faster ram thi cause if the infinity fabric
Watching this a year later because its finally “my time” to upgrade. The first PC i built for myself (with a few good friends’ help) is a Ryzen 1700x, Asus ROG STRIX board, Corsair Vengeance 2666 ram (16gb), EVGA 1080 FTW2, Corsair H100i 240mm liquid cooler, Corsair 850w gold rated psu, inside a Corsair Obsidian 570x case. At the time, 5ish years ago, this was a pretty big boy system that mercilessly and efficiently donkey-punched anything that came its way. Its starting to show its age now, though. Currently in the component-ordering phase of my second build, which will be a Ryzen 5800x, 3080 10gb, Asus board, and much more ram and storage. This one will also be getting a 360mm top-mount radiator and a new Corsair iCue 5000x case. Looking forward to feeling the leap in technology! Great video and great explanation.
One of the best.... don't rant just info. Brilliant.
I feel like after 5 years or when a part breaks is when you should start thinking about upgrading.
I personally start looking into pc's again at the 4 year mark to return my knowledge and then upgrade on year 5
This a rule I follow too; however when I looked at my receipt for my motherboard, I found out it is close to being 7 years old. Another thing I've noticed my machine is running a bit sluggish.
@@divinedragon88 yeah I take awhile to make decisions so it usually ends up being 6 years. I bought a 5700xt but since then I've waited like a year to upgrade my parts cause I was to buy the mobo and cpu on sale
I'm in the same boat, motherboards coming out now are most likely what i'll buy a year out from now, probably try and bundle everything i need during black friday sale.
@@BillyBowlster I’m in a fortunate position, got a i5 currently, considering upgrading but not until end of next year minimum, graphics card tho probs looking at the new 60 series coming soon to replace my 2070.
Ive got a 6700k and 970 and im only now thinking of upgrading because I game at 1440p, my 6700k is still kicking ass at running games overclocked to 4.6ghz but im just wanting to upgrade to am5 when it comes out and probably gonna get a 3060ti in the next few months because my 970 is starting to struggle with some newer games, like halo etc. Which dont get me wrong the 970 still runs halo at 1440p at playable fps, just with a lot of stuff disabled or turned down and I want to be able to get a higher quality image with more stable fps.
You need an upgrade when your system can't run the games or apps you want to run. Bottom line.
Update: Ok, I guess I should have said, upgrade if you feel the need to, not because there is a new video card out or because someone thinks you should.
Yeah mate, that is actually right. Cheers!
That’s about the most logical statement I’ve ever read.
guess i should upgrade lol.
That's it, period
Then i needed an upgrade from 9 years ago when i got my first pc and even now with a different pc i still need an upgrade according to your requirements 🙃
I had a 1070 until recently only "upgrading" when my friend gave me his 2060 which isnt much of an upgrade but getting access to dlss and rtx broadcast is mighty nice
I stayed with an intel core 2 quad qx9650 w/8gigs of memory, till 2020. It still ran great, but it did have a tab limit and it also needed to be cleaned often. The better a computer's performance, the less limitations you will find. My advice; When you decide to upgrade, Buy the best you can afford. Decide of how much you can spend. Then put the most money into the places where you need strength, but not so much that you compromise building a well-balanced computer. You make your decisions, then you live with them.
Do I need to upgrade my computer? Nope.
Do I still want to upgrade every time something new comes out. Yep.
🤷♂️
"You have choice in 2020."
Scalpers and bots: Allow me to introduce myself.
I'm a man of wealth and taste
@@caldie4338 I definitely guessed their name.
I had a question on graphics cards 7 updates but just answered them. So instead, Thank`s man.
I am with you 100% you only need to upgrade if your system is not keeping up with what you need it to do
Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?"
Me, looking to my Pentium G4560:" I don't think so"
same here i3 3230
@@moazrahman129 3570K still holding it's 2012 OC@ 4.68 Ghz. Want new, but will probably wait another year or 2
@@danoenco9487 It runs what you want in de config that you feel comfortable? wait...
Finally, after almost 6-7 years we have real competition in the CPU and GPU markets, we are gonna have much faster and cheaper hardware and in faster rate than well in a long time.
I have a gtx 1660 with a i5-4460, i had the i5 with a "GT 630" for 7 years, then in January this year I bought the 1660 for a 60% discount, a 1218% performance increase from the GT630 , sure we have RTX 2th gen, but no buyer remorse I'm just happy to play games in more than just 25fps in ultra-low settings
Running with I5 4460 and GTX 960 for years now. The only thing I'm thinking of changing is the GPU when I can
@@HansChucrute88 Buy the best of last year's tech for half price is a smart strategy. When younger (and earning less) it was the only way I could afford a rig --my first build was a Pentium II setup in 2000 with a "massive" 40gb HD.
I can afford better these days, but would rather put that $$ towards my IRA or new floors for the house etc.
Me looking at my vega 64:
My blower style vega 64: *screaming during any game played at 1440p*
Me: “I’m not done abusing you”
Me looking at my modded to death vega 56 : "400 watts are not enough"
Hehe yep
My I5-2500 and 980ti go full throttle for minesweeper. I upgraded.
r9 390 here - still running @ 90fps on medium quality with 2018 games.
im in exactly the same boat... would I even be able to tell a game is running at 4k? nahhhh. Do I want a 3080/6800XT ... yehhhh
This is exactly why i love and subscribe to this channel. You are one of the best fountians of knowledge out there.
Rewatching this helped. Thanks Jay!! What I want from my gaming experience on the 6700K isn’t really happening anymore.
Hmmmm don’t know that to upgrade too. The fun begins.
“It didn’t become slower just because something new came out”
*Meanwhile at Apple*
😂
Nuh it's mostly because of time
@Klausbärbel Fömm Yes, but apple did have a reputation for slowing older models down so consumers would buy newer models. They don't do this now because of the potential lawsuit they had on their hands but there are still people who don't think apple has changed.
No apple would never do anything like that........ I mean it's not like they would ever try to trick people into buying their new product (insert eye roll) lol
@@arcticscissors3792 That was purely with their phones/tabs, that wasn't MacOS. My 2011 MacMini is just as fast as it's ever been, even on Catalina.
I'll upgrade when:
🅰️My wallet won't kill me in my sleep for doing so.
🅱️When GPU prices drop after everyone has their 3000 series.
Bingo! There is premium tier, normal tier, budget tier, and discount bin :) Got an i7 GTX 1070 laptop on clearance after the GTX 2000 series became the new hotness that I am very happy with. Probably won’t upgrade to 3000/5000 for another two generations.
@@JGComments the gtx 1070 still kicks butt!
Well done. My theory is dont upgrade until my computer is not performing as I want or I can do something appreciably better with the upgrade than I can now. I wasnt happy with my computer a couple years ago. I had a I5 with a gtx 970. It wasnt fast enough but played games fine, I upgraded everything but the GPU and I was happy as hell with my computer. I saw no reason for the 1000s cards as it stlll wouldnt let me play at 4k like I wanted, even the 2000 cards wouldnt unless I was going 2080 TI and if I have a 970, I think its fair to judge what I think of that kind of money for a GPU. Now I figure I can get 4 or 5 years out the 3080 and thats an acceptable value to me, so if its ever for sale I'll buy one. Still not willing to buy AMD, dont trust the drivers, but my patience could get the best of me if AMD is actually available.
@@raimint When 3070s are actually in stock people will probably stop selling their 2080 ti for $600+
@@raimint I'm not holding my breath. Thats without taking into account crypto is on the rise.
I tend to go about a 6yr upgrade path often buying slightly below top of the line and it's served me well, my next upgrade would be 2023 so hopefully stuff will have sorted itself out by then. I only tend to upgrade when noticeable improvements can be made and the piece of mind that comes with newer parts starts to wane enough. With VR becoming more established the cracks are finally starting to show on a Valve Index in my older build. Been slowly saving up since oct of last year, and I'm planning to go all out with this next build as im gonna be trying my hands at custom hard line water cooling for the first time. I consider myself a bit lucky that i was able to rng luck my way out of what i expect to be most of the hardware issues that have pledged us the past 2 years. Still pretty happily rocking a 7700K and a 1060 6Gb
I do a upgrade every 5 years. Or when a game I really want to play. Performs badly on my current rig.
Aye man I just found ur channel and I love it and ur very positive words are golden thanks man I subscribed
Thank you for this enlightening video, it is really appreciated. I am a 68 year old retiree/gamer (for over 20 years) who does have a tight budget and it has been almost 15 years since I “built” (I specked it out and had it built) a computer (the computer I have now was a store bought, about 5 years) and I sorta dropped out of keeping up my knowledge up to date. I am trying to get back into it. After this I will wait as my current store bought is playing Battlefield 1, 4, & 5 and Titianfall well enough. Keep up the good work, not everybody has a big budget.
"Just minimize the video" then does the sponsor spot... I'm sure they are happy with that one Jay 🤣
I was literally thinking the same thing 😂
Going for that subliminal messaging
lol thats what i did, i thought it was gonna be one of his self sponsored spots
I actually have the AF version of that case I’m using for my first build
Lol
Ryzen 5 1600, GTX 1080 here. 4 years old. Still mighty pleased with what it's doing. Anything AAA after 2019 might be a struggle at this stage though.
Squeezed out a solid 65fps on AC Odyssey at High/Medium settings which I was very pleased with. I think that's the limit.
Thanks for the peace of mind. I upgraded my ddr4 to 32g and radeon 5700x graphics card due to out of memory issues. I have been getting plenty of comments and advice saying I should upgrade my CPU which is a ryzen 7 3700x and Motherboard cause it's outdated. Unfortunately I did buy another Motherboard but after watching this video and advice from a computer guru I was told the tomahawk b450 was a good average Motherboard for gaming. That and the CPU still does what I want it to do. So thank you
I decided back in early september that I wanted to build a computer. My budget was supposed to be around $1000. After putting parts together I quickly realized that $1300 was more realistic for me. Then ampere was announced. Then amd 5000 series was announced. Then big navi was announced. My new budget is well... nonexistent. I'm building a 5800x/radeon 6800xt pc now. $2000 is about where I'm at. Please kill me. I don't need this good of a pc but I want it so bad.
ah yeah the newer parts are getting a little too expensive these days i had a plan for upgrading then so many chipsets from last gen to this gen and then the next gen cards are soo much better gpu wise and one money base line of x amount turned into wait till this amount then the supplys of the items turned it into what about 3000 or more for overpriced stuff i thought nope keep waiting lol.
Im still stuck at 250 dollars
Tnx
3600 & 2070s is a good combo for 2k res. Only go for new parts if you need a high fps 4K resolution.
Vibe
@@jmanhockey2 that's what I have. runs any game ultra settings. streaming games is no issue either.
Me vibin with my i3-3229Y laptop: Yes, this guy makes a good point.
Hey if you like it it’s fine for you
Me vibin with my cellphone: a VERY good point.
I stock in i3 7100 dual core hahahaha, I need to upgrade now.
My ryzen 3 1200
i3-8145u xd
I would also like to add that pre builts are also okay if thats what you bought. As long as you don't overclock and abuse them then they are fine.
I ran dual Radeon 6950 crossfired for like 10 years. Didn’t always get the best frame rates in newer games but it always kept the house warm!
"Is your system playing the games you like at a framerate you want, at the quality settings you desire? If yes to all then you don't need to upgrade."
@@clitmint Speaking of blower cards, I probably should have made an addition to that; "Within a noise level you can accept".
I got a Ryzen 3700x and 2060 I’m not worried about the cpu but idk if I should upgrade my gpu any advice?
no be cause i want to play in 5k with 240fps. i just can't afford it lmao
@@inowtf4299 3080 or whatever amd comes out with. only if you seriously not getting what you want. 2060 should be fine for a while. unless games are starting to come out with crazy graphic rendering. but upgrade the gpu when you can afford and need it. you might be better off buying something else like a better mouse or keyboard or even a monitor. if your 2060 is driving your current monitor fine then you dont need a better gpu to run 144hz 1080p. or if you're playing league a shitty macmini from 2005 can run it. if you can wait. wait for after 3000 series nvidia gpu's.
@@ittotaq I’m mostly a comp player but I do occasionally play story games and I definitely want cyberpunk2077
My rig is 2 years old, R5 2600 and RX 580. It's my first build and I am very proud of it. Sometimes I stare at it in disbelief.
It's as snappy as it was on day 1. Does all my work smoothly and runs all my games at 60 fps or more
Can't be happier :D considering keeping it for at least 3 more years. Maybe more if I didn't feel the NEED to upgrade.
Thanks for the video Jay :-)
Same setup and built at the same time I still love it
Same parts, same years here too. I watch all this vids and think “man I want to upgrade” but it is doing so fine right now, I have to be strong
Exact same specs here ... Wanted to buy a zen 3 chip but settled for OCing the 2600 instead. Am very tempted by one of the new GPUs though, the RX 580 while great value doesn't punch that hard anymore
I have a 2600x and had an RX 580 that I upgraded to a 2060 Super and 144hz panel instead of 60hz. I was going to get a 5700/xt but didn't feel like waiting a month or more for more stock to be in.
Same CPU but with RX 5700XT. Nice 1440p 60 FPS and will hold for 1080p for the next generation.
Thank u, this really helped me. My pc can run most of the games but on the lowest graphic so i was deciding to upgrade as my friends had newer pc and they always told me to buy a new pc or upgrade. But now i think I don't need a new pc nor do i need to upgrade. Cause this pc is do the things that i need it to do.
First off thanks Jay for making this video. It made me feel good about my "old system". I've been slowly getting parts on sales and letting the amd ecosystem mature. My "old system" is
AMD FX-8340 with cooler master 212 Evo cooler
Corsair DDR3 1600 16gb
Gigabyte 970a-D3P
XFX R9 380x 4gb
Cooler master scout case
Samsung Evo 850 250gb for windows 10
Everything works it plays my games with a little tweaking. I'm now just starting to see some issues but overall it's been a great system. An I'm now starting to get parts for a new Ryzen build. Gonna hold out on a GPU until prices become reasonable again.
Rocking a 6600K with a GTX 1660S here and I want to upgrade, but like Jay says I really don't need to, and I prefer to keep both of my kidneys. Only playing 1080 ultrawide and it handles almost everything at high. and everything at medium details for 75fps so that'll do me. Honestly my next build is likely to be an XBox....
I'm currently running since 2015 - AMD FX 8370 /w 212 Evo, Hyper X DDR3 16G, MSI 970A SLI Krait AM3+ (Jay reviewed in 2015), Zotac 980Ti Amp Extreme, Fractal Define case. Im thinking of upgrading to a Ryzen 5600 or X and use my 980Ti since it can still perform.
Came for some PC obselete guide, stayed for the life lesson
My checklist:
(x) Running my favorite game under 60 fps
(x) Under HD resolution
(x) Stuttering
(x) Crashing
Yes, i think its time to upgrade
same
(Y) same
Good checklist. Might want to include overheating cpu/gpu
I found myself having to drop to medium / low at 720p and decided my old 960gtx 2gb just wasn't good enough any more. Thanks Metro Exodus!
@@catch_0227 damn a 960, I'm running a i3-6100 and a gtx 950. Not doing to great at the lowest settings in any game
Up’till a month ago I used my old build from 2012 (i5 3550, 16gb ram, rx570).
Was doing just fine, but due to age I felt I should upgrade; but it still serves my parents just fine!
It was just as fast with a sata ssd as any new machine ( I sold the gpu from it so others can still game on it, and put the original hd7850 back in it)
I think I did a pretty decent job on my PC build especially for a disable kid, it's not the latest spec but it holds up pretty well and I'm proud of it.
the fuck does you being disabled have to do with building PC? You just have to bring that up don't you?
@@SanctusBacchus Perhaps his disability impedes his ability to build his PC as well as an able bodied person. You don't know the dude nor the nature of his disability. It wouldn't have hurt you to not comment that. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. In what way does his comment have a personal affect on you? Surely you could have just ignored the post and moved on like the better man... Come on, be better than that.
Would love to hear the stats on it and what you liked most about putting youre own rig together
@@PryvatCyan87 I second this remark. Let's have stats and how ya like it!
@@SanctusBacchus so hows it held up for you?
DDR3 Gang Represent ✊
14Gb of DDR3 @1000 mhz reporting!
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my best friend is here to check in with his gtx 980
8Gb of DDR4 @ 2400 mhz lol
DDR 3 Corsair Dominator Pro 8gb 😏
Jay: "Is your PC now obsolete?"
Me: _Nervously glances at my Dell prebuilt from 2003 with a Pentium 4 and an ATI Rage_
How is that 1 core cpu running youtube?
Edit: my uncle has a pentium 4 541 pc, asked me to upgrade it. Found out it can't even run youtube properly, so i just placed a core 2 quad in there and now its waay better.
Tldr: upgrade it to a quad, or duo at the very least
Well.. Uhhh... does it do what you need it to do?
Just tell em you had rage mode before it was cool 😂
@@e2rqey Ha! Ha! good one
@@williamaxelcuangdinata My E7500 2.93GHz duo can only run 480p lmao
Great topic, Jay! I built a second PC for my kids to play on, and I just slapped a GTX 670 I had on hand in there thinking "I'll replace this asap," but actually found that an old ass 2gb GPU was flexing on the titles we play. I didn't even feel bad selling my more powerful machine, knowing I can effectively game on $250.
Same man. Needed new gpu and got 2 gtx 770's from someone. It's quite litty. Gotta say power draw from 2 770 is also litty in a less fun way
@@nidrikzleet5986 most titles don't even support SLI these days. May be worth selling one!
I built my first computer earlier this year having no clue what I was doing. I bought what I could afford that was in stock and I'm proud of what I was able to put together not because I have the most high end gamer rig money can buy but because I jumped into the deep end of a knowledge base I was not comfortable with and learned how to do something new. I was able to take that knowledge and do a fresh install on an old Dell pc I used in my workshop for cnc projects that I had forgotten the password for and had for 2 years been a pile of e waste in the garage and is now back to running. If my new rig ever can't run what I need it to run I can upgrade it but I'm happy with what I have
"Your 1080 Ti is so trash, the 3080 would destroy it anyday"
Message sent from some kid's prebuilt Pentium 4 256 Mb Ram rig.
Yeah!!! My 3080 will Duke on your 1080!!!!!!!!!
@@adamhoch7664 when its not crashing or tripping out power supplies. ROFL
@@lordsetarurare you stole my response lmmfao
@@lordsetarurare lol
I was hoping he was going to touch on the 1080Ti in front of him... I still love mine
[Looks at current pc with a 3770k]
[Pats pc on head]
You're still a good boi.
Do you play warzone? I had a 3770 and my framerate was way too low (40s on top of train or superstore) and i decided to upgrade as its the game I play the most. Gotta say tho, everything else i played, including cod multiplayer ran pretty well
My son uses my old 3770k with a 980ti playing mainly 1080p games. With decent RAM and fast internet, he has a blast with it.
I am still on the non-k :(
I'm still on a 3770 non k with a GTX1080, 16gb DDR3 and 3 128gb SSD's in Raid-0. Honestly, for the games I play its fine but I'm starting to notice weird and random PC issues and I think its because of aging hardware. So I have a Ryzen 5800X sitting on my desk right now waiting for the rest of my parts to arrive. It is time.
@@40kknight Not yet, i just upgraded sli motherboard to siphon more power from gfs i7-3770 cpu with gtx1070 sli cards.
Rockin' a 2600k and DDR3!
Looking to upgrade soon, but she still runs!
I upgraded my computer when stuff starts to crash out, I get about 5 years on an OEM computer which I feel like is a decent lifespan, this week I ordered parts to build my own computer in hopes of being able to replace parts as they quit and upgrade cheaper parts of time to help with software compatibility problems Like the latest one with windows 10 to 11. But my computer quit working altogether so it's not a problem anymore.