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Rashford comes on as a sub almost every game and jogs around the pitch like he couldn’t care less. Can we stop blaming an interim manager?
To be fair Simon has always said Rashford has been terrible for 18 months
Couldn't agree more..
But do you see how Danny thinks he works hard? I don’t think they watch matches, only highlights then form an opinion. Ralf been in the job for 4 months and they killing him already. Ole even after 3 years with NO CV had excuses from people like Danny.
Radnik came in and use his style but the players especially the spoiled ones were crying base on the stile!....so then how can these spoiled kids better when there is better coaching.
Both managers have bin delth with 2diferent ways in that because ole is a United pass player,he can get away with some things.however Ralph radnick is an outsider who's different in his approach to the game.ralf would get the stick because these lazy and don't care players have not changed Thier ways
Having harry maguire as your club captain says it all really
Harry is the best footballer in Manchester as united fans we love him. Leave Harry alone he doesn’t derserve this abuse he always tries his best and that’s all we can ask. Maguire needs a statue outside old Trafford
@@gamerguy4839 😂😂😂😂
Captained Utd to 2nd last season, best finish post SAF
@@neilsarath9812 Terrible trolling
@@gamerguy4839 you should go support newcastle. Take Harry with you
For how long will commentators blame the manager for United's problems when the players are always the common denominators. Again you cant undo more than 5 years of crap in less than 6 months with no permanent contract, totally agree with Simon.
And I think Danny has forgotten that Klopp didn't just wave a magic wand and Liverpool were suddenly fixed. Liverpool were much worse then United are now for Klopp's first half season. Klopp only started to improve Liverpool when he had a full season in front of him and could bring in a couple of players. Even Klopp and Pep would be struggling with that United team.
yes you can, tuchel done it
@@Rocky0Road Tuchel is an outlier. He already had players brought in for him to work with the previous summer because Chlesea had no intention on keeping Lampard for an extended amount of time and were already eyeing up Tuchel and were just waiting for the right moment to sack Frank.
@@createmistakes April's fools day was a few days ago
Man Utd have totally lost that fear factor to play against, the only thing that's surprising about them is how the hell they're still top half of table. They should be grateful De Gea's being reasonably consistent.
When Ralf talks about physicality, he means wingers that drop back to defend at full speed and back to attack at full speed, he means midfielders who are quick enough to put in the tackle or prevent a player from turning grab a ball and drive it themselves, he means defenders who don’t get left for dead and scare you in set pieces, if you can’t see that then you are too used to the premier league go watch the rest of the world, the premier is levels above them in physicality
And this is why Pogba has never been good for United.
Please you've obviously not seen a fixture like Dundee vs Motherwell😅 a lot of leagues are more physical than the EPL.
@@allyofficial4547 seems kinda pointless given their 50 points off top spot
If Premier is about physicality and Pace, Man City Should not be competing for top 4.
Except Sterling, Debryn & Walker, All Of them lacks pace and physicality, Most expecially Silva, Gundogan & Mahrez.
The point is, If a Player is technically good on the ball, You need less of Pace, Bernardo & David Silva are not physical, they are diminutive, short & Slow ,But Are Technically good on the ball, calm & Hard to disposses.
Pogba is a physical guy in reality but on field of play, He falls under light challenge, that bcoz He doesn't know what to do with the Ball, players who has purpose and abilities on the ball rarely falls, That's why Pogba & Bruno are not a true midfielder, They have zero skills as a 10, at best both of them are 8.
Spot on. Physicality is not just Brute strength. It's speed, ability to put the work in. City players are technical, yes, but physically very drilled as well. They are not huge bulky dudes, but they work extremely hard off the ball. Watch them off the ball and you will see.
Sorry Danny, Ragnick is NOT the problem. The Liverpool manager is ALLOWED to manage, so is the Man City manager. Man U managers are barred from managing by the board who dance to whatever tune their sponsors are playing. Mourinho wanted Pogba gone but Adidas said no.
Theres no way in hell Klopp doesnt get a tune out of this squad.Players not good enough is a bullshit excuse
@@SuziesAshes10 Ok, what's the 11 that Klopp would field with these United players and become truly competitive?
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 did i say truly competitive? How do you explain Brendan Rodgers first impact at Leicester, same players that were not performing, suddenly of all playing for the manager.
@@SuziesAshes10 Just give a starting 11 that fits Klopp's style, not that hard if you really believe that quality isn't a problem.
@@SuziesAshes10 I don’t think klopp or pep could manage this crap team.
As a palace fan, UTD are the ONLY "Top" team i dont fear playing... They used to be the ONLY one i feared playing, those days are long gone.
truthhurts "Those days" went with Fergie-time and brown envelopes! or hadn't you noticed!
This hurts.
@@sprinter1832 I'm an arsenal fan
What I find amazing is how the British players get away with murder. Luke Shaw as an example has been at Utd for about 8 years, and has produced maybe 18 months of good performances, yet no criticism. And as for Mctominay, the less said about him the better
So Maguire, Shaw, wan-bissaka, Lingard, mctominay etc don’t get criticised??
Don’t know what universe you live in, but it’s definitely not reality
If Shaw plays in the world Cup it's a red card waiting to happen
@@clemfandango2379 mate, there is a growing anti-British sentiment coming from people like the original poster. I see more and more comments like his, blaming “British bias” or they claim journos and pundits only criticise foreign players and give British players a free pass.
They are deluding themselves through confirmation bias and ignore all facts that go against their obviously false assertions.
It’s almost like they want to blame British players, that’s why I call them anti-British
@@lukebrown997 yeah they do get criticized. But there are certain sections of the media that will protect British players. And those sections tend to highlighted more to confirm the bias. lol
@@clemfandango2379 Well said. Of course British pundits will generally back their own just like all nations doing the sames.
Danny Murphy forgot one important thing to add to his equation: Shaw has been underperforming for 4 managers now. That shows you you cannot change everybodys mindset.
Haha you were all raving about shaw and Maguire last year. Classic United fan.
New contract for Cupcake Cafu, gosh, what on earth is wrong with MU??
@@drench1580 after his injury I was never gassed about him. Never rated maguire from day one.
Southgate changes his mindset though
@@drench1580 I'm an Arsenal fan
Blaming Ralf for this is the definition of key stage 1 football IQ
If there was a negative key stage, people with that opinion would be there
Marvellous. Glazers playing it superbly
Ole in glazers in bring back the glory days
They are right about the physicality. We have that. United don't have the technical players.
Saying Ralf isnt to blame is an opinion of a clueless fool
Danny Murphy blaming pogba, ronaldo, and Bruno.
Ok Danny, but talk to me about maguire? Rashford, mctominay, shaw, wan bissaka?
I don't get all this ridiculous babysitting and mollycoddling of Rashford. He's hired to do a job, and he's not doing it. That makes him a fair target. It's not Man United's job to 'look after' Rashford and sort his form out. He has to do that himself. He's not owed anything. Man United pays him $200k a week to perform a job for them, and as a professional footballer, he has to take accountability for his work.
Absolutely right. Well said.
Danny Murphy comparing 2 very established managers to an Interim manager who has walked into a mess half way through a season is laughable. Ragnick is like a supply teacher, he has no real power.. These entitled players have collectively given up.!
Can't believe they've just gave Bruno a new contract 🙈 still making the same mistakes, why not wait till the new manager comes in and let them decide if they want Bruno to stop or not
Apparently Fred and Shaw are next.... Does the new manager even want them? What the hell is going on at the club. It's mind boggling
@@johnfulco8313 I thought rangnick was coming in to stop all this nonsense from happening, I know he's not in his role upstairs yet(I'd have serious thoughts about going through with that) but you'd still think he'd have the influence to say don't be giving players contracts yet till we get our manager sorted
How do you know its a mistake if the utd board have already agreed with their new manager?
@@jozz9989 because that manager will of never worked with him, so how can he possibly know
@@craigdoc6656 They are tying their best players to help with stability, and the stability is the sixth place finish.
Danny is the only person on this show that Simon respects went he speaks, because he knows he makes great points...all the rest talk a bunch of BS
Ummm think you are forgetting Trevor Sinclair! He speaks the most truth there is!
He licks his lips when sinclaires on , like fishing with dynamite
@@StephenCarrIsBald ?
@@zfitzz3595 should take Sinclair off with SJ… he just gets made to look an absolute mug and the producers must absolutely love it
Agreed
Danny Murphy can bang on about Utd players being physical, they aren’t but that’s not the issue. They’ve a lack of talent to overcome before worrying about being physical. Half the team are busy wondering why they’re playing with cart horses.
Brilliant!!!
I’ve been a united fan since the first game I went too as a 8 year old in 1991. I’ve never seen a group of players like this show such lack of effort to perform for the shirt. Something has to change and now
Embarrassing to watch these lots. Now I dont even watch again
"Perform for the shirt" - any more cliches available? I'm sure you have one using that silly word passion.
@@ngc-fo5te oh come on..as an arsenal fan..😅🤭
@@Clyde Come on what?
@@ngc-fo5te nothing really..as an arsenal fan..I really should mind what I say!😅
United record is 9-9-3 , he is an interim manager in my opinion has done a descent job it has not helped him that Cavani cant or doesnt want to play, Rashford is the worst form of his career and the usual idiots continue to make the same mistakes
A descent job you say, probably appropriate
With that team that’s pretty much all you can ask for
Plus he lost Greenwood, plus Ronaldo age can impact how he play as the seasons goes on, Meaning not able to recover. Players that won’t be there next year will not have any desire to fight either such as Pogba and Lindgard. People talk about MU squad however in my opinion it is the thinnest of all.
He’s done well with the group of players he has, what do people expect ? It’s a team of total mediocrity bar a couple of good players
Not to mention these overpaid big ego's thrown the dummies out their prams.
Aw, come on - one minute, they're demanding there be consequences for players who don't show intensity on the pitch, the next they're demanding to know why Rashford hasn't been better taken care of.
And they say he will run everywhere when he runs far less than Bruno. Is all because he is British and he does need an arm around the shoulder. Why they did not speak about our captain not asking the other players to speed up, to ask them to play harder?
Murphy “if he’s not working hard he should be punished and not play”
Murphy “Get Rashford in the team”
😂😂😂
Clowns
🤣
Danny is acting like klopp and pep didn't sell majority of the players they inherited and brought in their players.
true, I also watched the players put in 100% effort once they arrived and the ones that didn't wouldn't get a game and you could see the identity switch fast even if the end product wasn't anywhere near it is these days
Exactly. klopp didn't just wave a magic wand in fact Liverpool were much worse then United are now for Klopp's first half season. It took Klopp until the first summer transfer window before he could really start developing the team.
Both pep and klopp had aging players that they had to let go off.
@@createmistakes Ah Klopp had a very limited squad
He still made average players better but they were still not good enough.
Joe Allen for example started playing way better fr Klopp but he was still not good enough if ya wanna win big trophies...
Lallana became much better and much more fitter and agressive under Klopp..
@@createmistakes how worse than manure if Klopp took that same team to two cup finals in 6 months are you crazy?
Rangnick tried to implement additional training sessions when he first arrived at the club and the players threw their toys out the pram. That shows you that Rangnick is right the recruitment process next few windows is key as these current players are too comfortable and don't want to put the hard yards in to improve on the pitch. Far too many Utd players are more interested in their off the field activities. Look at Mata, Jones, Matic, Lingard and many others have stayed for years with zero game time! I know Lingard wanted to leave in January but he has been a fringe player for 3-4 seasons. Where's their pride
This man say put his hand around Rashford an Lingard. What a joke Lingard should not even be at this club. The english players at the club are rotten to the core Maguire, Shaw, Lingard, Rashford should all leave. Overpriced, overpaid players who seem not to care about the outcome.
Conte made Kulu-Son-Kane actively defend when under pressure. Just saying.
Danny was spot on and made fantastic points. Lack of consequence at united as a reason players dont work hard enough is completely correct.
Klopp and Guardiola had a a few windows to change their teams rangnick had none...rangnick cannot be criticized at all
Klopp wouldn’t let Pogba or Bruno through the front door. Lazy and really poor attitudes.
Physicality for a footballer is about commitment. Manchester United players run away from the ball. They don't want to get involved in the game. A player with the ball has few options to give the ball to. Players with physicality are always trying to get involved and they do so in unity. That is how good teams generate results
Murphy had it right. There's no consequences for lack of form or commitment. Look how Maguire and Rashford keep appearing despite their dreadful form. This goes back to Ole who did the same thing and left Donny, Bailly and Lindgard out the team despite some first framers being awful.
They are A DISGRACE TO MANCHESTER UNITED!!!!!
The owners, the Board, the backroom staff are a joke (Phelan, Fletcher.....), and the players make me SICK!!!!!
The owners will stay the same, so I won't focus on things that will never change.
The board is however quite new. Richard Arnold has become the new director, and Fletcher, Murtough etc are also quite fresh.
What I mean is that we don't know whether the board and adm is god, bad, or fantastic for that matter. Cause it's quite freshly composed.
@@kyrre3694 mourtough is not fresh, he's been at this club for 8+ years
Danny is showing more belief & passion in the squad than the players do themselves 😂
Yeah, I mean he really believes these players are good enough to do something worth while, I'm not are what he sees in them frankly
First time I've seen Murphy win a debate with SJ....Murphy spoke well and passionately here
Absolutely. Danny was on fire here.
The United players arent listening to Rangnick because they've had it handy for 3 years training wise.. They have downed tools on an interim manager and its mainly the British players, disgusting.
Since Ralf came in it was clear. Martial out, Lingard mad, Pogba benched, Shawberto Carlos retired, Maguire is exposed. This is what we need and I hope extending Bruno now when he had 3 years on his contract is the last decision anyone makes at this club before Ten Haag takes over.
They are not listening to him because they don’t respect him, they don’t respect him because none of them had probably ever heard of him, he’s not achieved anything nor managed an elite football team.
@@Osmosis909 wether you have heard of him or not, you need to respect your manager. At the end of the day you are professional on massive wages.
@@Osmosis909 I'd be interested to know if players actually do think like that. If Man Uniteds squad have that attitude towards Ralf Ragnick they are a disgrace to the club because none of them have ever achieved anything. Apart from Ronaldo and Paul Pogba obviously.
You can’t compare Pep and Klopp to an interim manager. You may say Pep did it however as a manager he had the power to own the player career for the next five years. How is Ralph going to tell this players you are not physically enough when the players mind is who cares you Ralph you are out by the end of the season
Look at Arteta! He figure that he was not able to impact Aubameyang, so he had to get him out of the club. Can Ragnick get this players out? He tried and was stop for some of those loan deals in the winter market such as Lingard
@Maximus Meridius Spurs did the double over City this season it makes no difference
@Maximus Meridius And lost 4-1 to Watford. Not to mention 5-0 to Liverpool at Old Trafford. What is your point?
Winning teams combine talent with really hard work. They never stop - never give up..
Pep will sell 70% of these players. You think he will work with shaw,wanbissaka,pogba etc for over one year?
I reckon Rashford must have been hanging out with Dele Ali. Until they get in a proper decent manager and director of football to work in tandem, they will flirt with UEFA league qualification, that’s it.
Danny has a point about the Yards tho. I'll give him that
When he says physicality he means athletic, athletes have endurance, tenacity and drive. Outside of Fred our players don't actually take on players...you'll notice they do a little dribble to look like they want to attack then they regress, pass back and side pass to avoid opposition..the players that do this are Pogba, Sancho, Bruno, Shaw, Matic, Rashford, Martial, Varane, Dalot...that's most of the 1st team squad. You cannot coach players to have bite in their directness ..you either have it or you don't, the coach can encourage it but ultimately its the individual that motivates themselves. Mourinho has said the same things but no one listened.
At least we got Maguire, world class
What is Danny Murphy on about Rashford will work hard for his team 😂
I hate Man United as much as the next man, but blaming Ragnick for the dumpster fire that is their squad is unfair. Ole has set them up for failure for at least the next few windows. Too much deadwood and Ragnick has to work with them when they clearly aren’t good enough.
Rashford doesn't defend he never had and wont he is entitled he leaves luke shaw marking two player every game he started whats with this misconception that rashford is world beater he's not
that statement made me realize he doesn’t watch united week in week out cuz he was absolutely waffling
I disagree with Murphy on Rashford.
We have sacked 3 managers with these Players and board. I’m not gonna criticise another manager because the board are incompetent. I honestly believe the board did this on purpose so they can throw a manager under the bus. Ragnick could not even get 6million for a midfielder in January.
Why would they give a manager that will only stay for 6 months any money to spend on players, when they will appoint a new manager that may not want that player?
Ralf has come in half way through the season and is stuck with Ole's underperforming team. The board gave up on the season by not backing Ralf in January. Club is rotten from top to bottom
What have you seen that puts Ralf above Ole as a manager?
Because I've not seen anything..
Results, performance level, clean sheets, trophies, goals scored, team selection...
Nothing.
That team was underperforming when Ole took over. It was HIS transformation of an underperforming team that got him the full appointment.
The players are refusing to play. If baffles me how pundits and parts of the media don’t just say it as it is. Danny is part of the reason why the players are underperforming, always giving them a pass. Blame the players!
If you just say it’s the players it gets a bit boring, they need content
@@Predatorsnightmare let’s be honest, the whole club is a shambles from top to bottom. I just feel like the team isn’t playing for the manager. They he is short term and can’t be asked.
We had Jose who would come out and blast these players for not working hard or not having the right attitude and we destroyed him for that. Now look at this lot. They doesn't even try to show that they care.
Man united deserve all they are getting at the moment.
I don't understand how it's more of an indictment on Rangnick than Pogba that Pogba proves that he can play hard for France, but he chooses not to for United, that's on Pogba
These two just compliment each other so well. Far rather listen to them debating a topic than listen to any other footballing podcast that only express theoretical nonsense and deluded notions. You could also witness Simon understanding the point brought forth to him when it was made clear so he isn't just this businessman who lacks any footballing knowledge. He makes his argument clear factually and logically, but is capable of changing his opinion when someone presents a more intelligent argument.
Why has youtube become a place where people think having a conversation is some kind of radical thing ? Where were you raised where you think these things are special ?
Appointing Rangnick mid season was like arriving to a high school class and finding out you've got a substitute teacher. Immediately it's chill and talk and do what you want who cares you'll never see them again.
Ragnick had months. Klopp didn't completely change Liverpool's playing style in 4 months.
And btw. Rashford never really defended...
Rangnick isn’t a wizard, he did what he could with a team of poor quality and mentality. I’m sick of people blaming managers when the consistency elsewhere in the club isn’t good enough to produce a top level of football.
Ralf has been brought in as an Interim Manager! If he was brought in as a permanent manager, guaranteed the players would be working harder, because there would be bigger consequences for not playing well! They know Ralf won’t be manager at the end of the season, so they don’t care! Not Ralf’s fault! It’s the board’s fault for appointing an interim manager!
I think Ralfs actually just letting the players do what they like & perform however when it’s left to them personally, the point all these “pundits” are missing is Ralfs not there to manage these players who aren’t any of HIS players anyway, but to give a report on individuals at the end of the season to the new permanent manager, like he’s reporting & is here to analyse & report on the bigger problems at the club & report to the board (which he’s said many times in interviews) & that’s exactly what they got him in to do, not to actually manage the team performances! 😤😅
Chelsea 10th - 1st (2017)
Juve 7th - 1st (2012)
Inter 4th - 1st (2021)
United 1st - 7th (2014)
All in the space of one season
Is there a point anywhere in your post?
@@Redman680 It clearly went over your head fella
7:00 possibly my favourite debate I have heard from this channel
i love how danny's experience as a top pro footballer enabled him to completely dominate this discussion :) simon's great could listen to him all day but gazumped a little here, contributed mindyou got danny working
Maybe it’s the fact that these players know they will outlast the manager & that’s the issue. Hence the fact nothing have change over the years managers come & go but the club is still the same. Why is Darren fletcher on the bench
Shaw, Maguire, Wan bissakka, Fred, Mctominay, Rashford, Elanga, these are players on the level of Wes Brown, Jonny Evans, Jordi, Poborski, o’shea etc. not Rooney, Tevez, Beckham, Stam or Vidic. That is why they are dropping into mid table. Squad players paid and played like first teamers.
Why you even bringing elanga into it?
If you think for one minute Ragnick isn't telling them to change and be more physical then your crazy
Spot on. Just because the player are on the highest pay in the prem doesn't make them good player.
I don't think one player would get in any team in the top 5.
How Simon says genuinely makes me laugh. Genuwinely 😂😂😭
Can we not have Murphy and Simon Jordan on every morning? I feel like Murphy's the only pundit they can put with Simon Jordan who will further the debate and stimulate good conversation.
No offence to the likes of Martin Keown and Trevor Sinclair but I don't see that with them
Dont worry about offending Keown and Sinclair, they are thick as Sh!t...Add Agbonglahor to that list too..
Thank you Danny Murphy. This is the level of conversation you get when an ex-player listens to the question, knows the subject and makes a valid point, whereas 'Our Trev' simply takes a position based on bias or sentiment, albeit an uninformed, vapid and pointless one.
I don't know who's got bad bunch of players. Man Utd or Everton both have got same problems, but difference between the two one got great PR branding team & other doesn't. Ralf Rangnick talks a good game, but he's reputation has to be questioning. If he can't get a tune out of Utd players then, he's not right man whatever it's dogout or board level.
Managing wonderkids on 10,000 a week and managing prima donnas on 300,000 a week are not the same lol.
So I agree that he can work on the right team or when given enough power
Danny better first tell us who Rangnick is going to consequence these players with...
If he provides credible options, then we can accept the blame on the coach to a greater extent
Rashford is the lazies player i've ever seen.
That MBE got to his head he thought he doesn’t need to run anymore after that as he is royalty now…
I disagree Pogba would run that much for Pep, he sleeps too much, a few games but not consistently, Bruno is shocking tactically so i doubt that.
Both of them will struggle in a city team, they are not technically good on the ball, They're scared to Carry the ball, thats why they hoof it, United Fans Stupidly call it Vision,
Often times Bruno tries the Hollywood pass whereas It would be better If He could just Travel amd carry the ball by himself, But he just can't, So As Pogba.
When you have Pogba as Your 10, You've got a slow playmaker who can't Run, Cant Dribble without falling, and If you have Bruno, you've got a weak, Timid player who can't play short passes, link up with players close to him, But looking to hoof it to the player 10 miles away.
What a sick combination of players, Yet United fans think they are Special players.
United Fans Accessment of players is as worse as the Football knowledge of their board.
You can tell which pundits are watching Manchester United play and which are just hearing about it from others and speaking on it anyway.
Rangnick hasn't been given the tools to get the job done. No transfers, coaching staff, etc.
And I wish Danny would say a sentence without mentioning Klopp. He struggled when he first came to LFC.
How did klopp struggle when he first came?
@@clifflewington6569 I remember Jason Cundy on talksport constantly calling him Brendan Klopp. I like Klopp btw. Top gaffer. Just pointing out that he did not hit the ground running.
Wow, thoroughly enjoyed this debate
Ragnick’s Biggest mistake is Continuously Playing these bang Average players in Luke Shaw And Harry Maguire
Every player Danny mentions needs to go😂😂 shaw rashford,wan bisaka and mctominay!!! Get them all out! Is Danny serious 😂
I would keep Shaw the rest are bottom table footballers at best not United quality
Danny is clueless on united.
“Maguire doesn’t get physically bullied off the ball” what games has Murphy been watching!? 😂😂
Also, I’d guess what Rangnick would also require is for someone to know when and how to be aggressive. You can huff and puff all you want but you’re not aiming it anywhere useful it’s all a waste of breath
I just don’t know how anyone can get a tune out of this squad and it’s going to take years to get the club back to the top. And that’s if they execute a plan that is correct and progresses in the right direction which seems impossible with the ownership.
Imagine going into work and saying "hey boss, I need you to motivate me"....
My question as well...good point
Init! Ya not kidding!
Not a single one of their players has ever been taught ,hard work beats natural talent
And there definitely seems a pivot , that once they get paid a certain amount, they are then gone as 100% committed, or that the money they get removes fear
Good shout danny,well said👏
Love him or loathe him, Simon Jordan has a fantastic command of the English language
Its Not that complicated Guys, Rangnick Said basically WE need a holding midfielder!..
This is the weak spot of Manchester united..easy to See..
Greatings from Germany ✌️
How is it going to work with a DoF who is Klopp's mentor and a manager who is Pep's student?? its 2 very different styles in Gegenpress vs Tiki Taka!!! 2 very different types of player profiles needed
Dan Murphy is missing the point. RR is simply saying it takes time to change the DNA of a player who is not naturally physical. He is not saying its not possible. Fabinhio sat on the bench for 6 months because that's the time it took him to to be physically ready. RR is spot on in his assessment.
Its easy to blame a manager if things didn't go the way we want but as a player you need to have individual brilliance capability to adapt and understanding. If think under Pep all these players will play well i will 100% say no Pep will sell most of them. The players are playing the same way under all managers so far nothing is changed. As a player there is nothing motivates you than play time and wages which they are getting regardless how bad they play. No matter who is your manager adapt and play well thats your job isnt it.
Love how managers ger rinsed 24/7 regarding man united. Players should be held accountable for there performances. Players get too much protection and they get away with everything
Fred & Scott have physicality, the truth is they lack technically too.
Fred is work in progress Scott is a rugby player someone let play football
"Physicality" - multiple meaning:
Compare teams - Burnley, Leeds, Crystal Palace, Atletico Madrid.
Compare elite, world class players with "pop or wow factors" - Maguire, Jones, Shaw, Lindelof, Wan Bisaka, Bailly, Fred, Mc Tominay, Matic. Vs Van Dijk,Trent Alexander, Keita, Matip, Robertson, Milner, Milner, Henderson, Gomez; Dias, Cancelo, Walker, La Porte, Fernandinho, Rodri, Stones, Zinchenko.
Team statistics - individual player distance, team distance, work rate, aerial battles won, tackles and interceptions won, assists, crosses, shots, goals, combined play, set plays, etc. Errors, turnovers, tactical and positional awareness, game plan execution.
Coaches player selection - How many MU players are capable of playing for Klopp or Pep? How many will they want? How many will improve with either?
Failed managerial appointments and player selections - Van Gayl: youth but error prone and could not win, Moise: tentative/defensive/"Everton", Mourinho: defensive/dull/ostracized players, Ole: all over the place, not sure which team will show up, Ragnick: player position abilities, capabilities to play multiple positions, tactical and game awareness, diet, nutrition, exemplary behavior on/off the pitch, big game player, overcoming adversity, winning mentality, scoring late.
They never say anything about how the board and managerial structures in the club influence players mindset.
Does anyone have any numbers? I am curious to see if United are worse under Rangnick than under Ole? It does not seem like anything has improved.
Omg these people and their bashing of rangnick, pep is a full time manager and wt he says go's end of. Ragnick has no power, he can't change anything, therefore its not his fault.
Team Chemistry is so Important in Every single Organisation, even a Battalion. Man United had players not a Team
Talks about AWB physicality and he's very physical and strong .. He got out muscled by Foden in the Manchester Derby..
Murphy: british players are doing their best and foreign players are not. 🧐
Great conversation
My mate a man u fan said to me after the game that was a decent point shows how far theve gone
Physicality. Fred gets bullied off the ball, Maguire gets bullied off the ball, Dalot and Telles can get bullied off the ball. Rashford has also been bullied off the ball. That kind of Physicality.
Good discussion tbf with a lot of valid points
The fact that Ralf called Maguire essential to Manchester United tells you all you need to know about him as a manager….
Difference between Rangnick, a pro, and you arm chair guys is that RR recognises thar HM can’t be replaced with a better defender from the squad. There isn’t one at the club.
I agree that I don't know why Utd signed Sancho. I recall listening to talk Sport for months when they mooted paying 100m plus for him and I was astonished. Even at 70m, I thought, no. their recruitment policy is all over the place.
Murphy is thick as mince. Says Rashford will run all over the pitch. What planet is he on? He also says Klopp and Guardiola would do x y and z in "the time Rangnick has been at the club" Haha! He's just in the door ffs.
The players have 5 différent mangers. It’s the attitude of not working hard to put in the yards.
Get what Danny is saying and he's right but I think Ralph is saying there are players at United that don't want to change regardless of the manager hence why Ralph spoke about the DNA of the players
ManU Should have promoted Keiran McKenna to manager. He has taken on the Ipswich Town Job and done incredibly well. I know it was a risk. But he is young and hungry. Something like 11 clean sheets in 19 games, we just went on an 11 game unbeaten run. Maybe he has come here to gain experience as he is a Manchester united fan. Look out for Kieran McKenna everybody. He will be a top tier manager in 4 or 5 years.
the funny thing is that managers like pep or Klopp wouldn't even bat an eye lid at the majority of that Manchester untied team. Its all mindset and they don't have it