Taliban's Ban on Women's & Girls' Education: Is it Islamic? | Dr. Shabir Ally
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2023
- You asked, we answered! "Are there any Islamic reasons for the Taliban to ban women from attending university, or are the reasons cultural or political?" Dr. Shabir Ally says his interest is in Islamic arguments. He says the arguments commonly made to restrict women's education don't align with the Quran's emphasis on pursuing knowledge or the reality that women in early Islam were actively trading in knowledge. He says the Taliban is fearful that any sort of mingling between men and women will lead to adultery but cautions us to think of the big picture and recognize that a degree of tolerance for sin must be built into the system. This latitude is already built into Islamic law. Dr. Shabir reminds us that even after guidelines about interactions and clothing were established in the Quran, women were active, to the extent that Aisha led a group of people into battle. So women were not excluded from society.
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There is tons that Taliban believe that is cultural and not Islamic. Cultural bias has a huge influence on people's interpretation of the Quran. Confirmation bias affects all of us.
Exactly pashtunwali
Exactly! But it's important to remember that this bias also affects those that tend to identify with the more 'liberal' interpretations. Growing up in the West sure has its affects on psyche. We can't discount this.
Sadly, when you live in the western society, you then try to interpret The Qur'an the way so that it doesn't make you UNCOMFORTABLE, which should Not be the case.
@@WhoAmI-gg5gu taliban are Pashtuns tribal terrorists. They are giving bad image to Muslims. Islam doesn’t prohibit women education that’s Pashtun culture
@@zakariamattu8613 Islam doesn't prohibit but does Islam Allow mingling of opposite gender ? That is the question.
May Taliban get some true knowledge of ISLAM🥺
Very Wisely Said.
Hope the Taliban Listens to this and Make Necessary Arrangements for Re Initiating the Women to Learn. Education was never a barrier to Women in Islam. Neither it will be in any Islamic State. If Taliban is Islamic State,then it will Reinitiate the Education of Girls & Women soon.
“You can impose a certain degree of piety on yourself, but not on society in general.” I feel like that line sums up a LOT.
So basically the Taliban can’t even properly understand their holiest scripture they claim to worship.
It’s almost as if they didn’t read the Quaran.
The Taliban Chief Justice, Abdul Hakkim Haqqani, wrote a book. In it, he says that because the Prophet's wives were supposed to stay in the house and not leave it until they died, all Afghan woman and Islamic women in particular should stay indoors and not venture out. He also quotes a false hadith attributed to the Prophet as saying that "women should not learn how to write".
@@angelarakestraw2235 💀💀💀sanest taliban take be like
@@gamingrex2930 they understand better than you
@@angelarakestraw2235 what the wifes left whenever they want if he was in the house they would tell him if he was out an d they wot be back they would tell neighbour to tell him or something . if it was just a classic day out and he wasn't around then they can just leave they are not prisoners.
3:10 To paraphrase, if men and women attend school or work together then sin will likely occur, but if they are kept seperate then society will be free from sin. Nonsense. I will take the best workers and best students over the worst whether they be men, women or cats.
Bro here he's talking about free mixing, yeah you can take best workers regardless their gender. Like if there is two seats in a room seat 1and2 so if a women take seat no. 1 then the men gonna take seat no.2. And men and women should not socialize with each other in work place if it’s not needed. Men and women need to be separate. that's it. And that’s what he's talking about.
i would love to hear what women in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan have to say on this issue. Matter of fact, I will only listen to women when it comes to their issues.
@@mjp-bi3re Are you telling me that
@@zariftahmid9854 I am telling you that. Matter of fact I am telling all men that. Men have absolutely no business controlling women. No human has any degree over any other person. We are all equal. Muslim, Jew, Hindu, male , female. What seperates us is what is in our hearts and the faults in our characters.
@@mjp-bi3re who is controlling women here.
"Mores,' which de Tocqueville, who invented the word, called (cultural) "habits of the heart," is pronounced "MORE rays," not 'mores."
Thank you Allah for the IndoPakistanian Muslims. Salam to you all from a Persian Muslim.
people are outraged by this, but let`s be honest here - 100 years ago in europe it wasn`t that common for a girl to get anything else than elementary school. Hell, in 1940s it still was fine for a grown man to marry 12 years old.
I`m not protecting talibans by any means, but their religion isn`t everything in this case, it`s just their cultural biases, they need to outgrow it, evolve their society on their own. We already tried to influence them forcefully, and look how it ended...
Before Taliban came women were going to school and universities and were already segregated so its illogical to stop them going to school and Universities.
They should get married
The thing is that the Europeans example is 100 years ago
The first iphone wasn’t made until like 20 years ago I think. Please don’t try to support the taliban
Tbh I would have preferred them to spend the entire video explaining the subject matter as there is a lot to be understood from an outsiders point of view…it somehow veered off into talking about fasting and rules of that subject 🤔 …
Education can be anything. It depends what your educating. You can be educating ignorance.
Isn't it possible that it is because of their savage Buddhist heritage that the pure and sublime teachings of Islam got obfuscated?
Why sahaba prohibited women to attend masjid for prayer? What about nowedays situation? Nowedays pornography is available for all Muslim world, you are talking about tolerance.
It's 1400 years ago
Use your brain it's not make sense to force others to do that
Talibanis are wrong
Glory to God
Did Shabir skip the time Muhammad said women are half as intelligent as men? If I missed it, please put a timestamp in a reply.
Was it intentional or accidental that he did not bring it up?
could be a weak / false hadith
@@scaleartsg 😂 yu are joking right?
Weak.hadidth or 💥 exposure hadith?
@@scaleartsg It is in Bukhari and Muslim. The
reference Mishkat al-Masabih 19
In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 18. The grade is Muttafaqun 'alayh. Meaning agreed upon.
I found this in two minutes.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 they'll simply ignore or just say "weak/false hadith". That is Islam , a bs
@@happysarkar9664 They already did. Look at the first reply.
As Salaam Alaakum. Taliban is plural for Talib, which means student. If you're in Islamic study you are Technically a Taliban.
We need the society as a general to progress even if its cost is fornication... Sheikh please don't make up Islam by yourself. You are for sure presenting the Canadian version of Islam. Please don't make such comments just to be more accepted by the people of the country you are living in.
Why you are unnecessarily supporting extremism???
It's simple those who wants to cover their heads or face They should and those who don't want They should not
He is shaikh he knows much better than you
He’s not making up Islam? Women have Islamic rights to school and work, the Taliban are not following islam
@@Human_boy_91And who the hell you are better than Taliban to understand what ought to be done or not?
You better stick with your version of interpretation resulting in degeneracy that is seen in the West. Don’t need to lecture Taliban on why don't they follow your version of interpretation.
@@maksudurrahman2414 you mad I am from kpk
If you don't know about kpk then you can Google
Lol I can even visit Afghanistan if I want it's very close I can even understand their language
And yes
Then why you don't shift to Afghanistan??
When earthquake happened in Afghanistan???
Where is your phucking Taliban????
Why they did nothing??
Why they left their ppls to die??
It's just a military dictatorship
Yes 90 percentage Afghans don't like Taliban 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but a random guy laying on his bad 😂😂😂😂
Talking about pashtuns country 😂😂😂😂
Do your own work and lays in your own country 😂😂
Taliban= military dictatorship using religion and sectarianist (anti Shias and anti Barelvis anti Sufis)
Afghanistan's cricket team don't even use their flag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫 It's our official flag
And yes please implement their policies in your country too
I think you are from Bangladesh
Stay in your bongal desh 😂😂😂😂😂
And don't teach us about our ppls my many relatives lives in Afghanistan
Almost 90 percentage don't support them
Just look Rashid Khan insta account 🤣🤣
Give them time and wait for it. Why don’t ever speak against US attack on Iraq
What about Iraq’s attack against Kuwait?
Your comment has a logical fallacy “A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question.” The US attacking Iraq has no relevance to this video
Give them time?, is that like saying Give me time to make Salat or fast Ramadan. The acquisition of knowledge is obligatory upon the Ummah, not just men. The Taliban quite frankly are ignorant.
@@mohamedkamara8225absolutely bro that's what i was about to tell he just twisting with USA by this comment 😂
6:09 Muslims also progressed even when Men and women don't used to mingle, so this is a lame argument.
if men and woman are going to the same places which are permissible but intermingling which is wrong, why not just not segregate the place rather ban one of the sexes altogether, to add to this home education for women is also not allowed in afghanistan so it has nothing to do with free mixing and everything to with culture and oppression
You are judging them too early meanwhile you didn’t judge The US when it hunted down Innocent Civillians. Where were you ?
The Children of US fighting down there. They turn a Blind Eye Towards the Atrocities done to Afghan Muslim for Past 40 years.
My Reply is For Everyone Those Criticize For No Reason
Don’t speak ill against the US.
@@RecitationOfQuran1 what an unbelievable bad comprison. Because he criticise the taliban he must find the US Attacking innocent people good? And what exactlay has that to do with the topic? And how is cancelling our girls from education "no reason" for you? May Allah give you sanity
Your comment has a logical fallacy “A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question.” The US hunting people down has no relevance to this video
You are not afghan first of all. Secondly Taliban are Pashtun terrorists who imposing their Pashtun Wali culture not Islam on rest of Afghanistan. The Tajiks who converted them to islam in the first place don’t even practice this or believe this
Islam teaches us to pray, if someone steal a shall from another and offering prayer on that shall, Each muslim will tell him this prayer is not acceptable and will put 100% effort to stop him from offering prayer. (What? "Stop from offering prayer". But prayer is obligatory in Islam.) The bracket is 100% true but that prayer had to be banned.
Education is obligatory in Islam but going to universities and sitting next to boys shouldh've be banned. Taliban are working on a seprate education system for girls, where they can study with peace and safety. Girls have a very high place in Islam and they should not be mixed with boys, who has more responsibilites compared to girls.
I have my own point of view about women education and that is " Girls need to learn Islam and medical science only".
As per the islam education is quran and haadess. Remaining is jihalath.
That was i want to left ISLAM
Phanderfilms does a better job at explaining these things. All this channel does is apologetics and doesn't even get in the grit and dirt
what grit and dirt?
I am totally disagreed with him because he didn’t bring any evidence from the Sharia about what he was saying, there is no tolerance when you do sins yes God doesn’t kill you directly because he is the most patient but that doesn’t mean you have to let people to fall in sins
Sugarcoated, so much sugarcoated version of Islam
Enlighten us, please.
Early Muslim society was a patriarchal society!!!!! Where is she getting her info from !
The Sheikh should have notified that this is a false information!!!
May Allah guide us all
So present some evidence for what you are claiming don't just make a random statement and go?
Every muslim sociwety was patriarchal and theres' nothing wrong with that
@@luciddoggo5094 so you are basically saying yemen is a good nation?
So Baghdad's islamic golden age was not prosperous because their weren't a large contingency of women contributors? Ok got you
That's a foolish argument, because being prosperous in the year 2023 is not the same as being prosperous in the year 1500, 1000 or 700.
@@bluespaceman7937 your point? Because you dont need women in the work force to become prosperous. Even when you look at the jobs women dominate, it has nothing to do with integral infrastructure and development of the current world. So my argument is pretty valid.
@@bluespaceman7937 i dont know which planet you live on tbh but, you need to learn history b4 you start a debate.
How did the golden age produce such advances in philosophy, music, literature, art, astronomy, chemistry etc. given that Islam hasn't produced a single notable advocate of any such discipline since that golden age? Don't bother telling me about 'colonialism'. The answer is in the degeneracy of the religion in its relation to totalitarian states weaponizing the beauty of the religion of Islam in its own interests. Low IQ Wahhabis get this entirely the wrong way around because they ARE the problem. They seem to think that the problem is a lack of traditionalism. WHO PRODUCED AL GHAZALI? IBN RUSD? Why do Muslims ignore the sheer scale of the scholarship of Aisha, when misogynistically claiming that women must simply raise babies etc? It is a simple degeneration of what is fundamentally a beautiful, profound and strong religion. It can and must be turned around. Read Khaled Abou El Fadl.
@@swarming1092 why was aisha regarded as a scholar? If you can answer this correctly it is incumbent for you to be quite. And how are muslims mysoginist, if muslims hated women we wouldn't have them around. Wtf typical bot
You are trying to say that Islam is so tolerance to make western happy m, shameful, quote Quran and Hadith not juste use aqal
What did you mean
@@zariftahmid9854 he was trying to say that if you know that you do something and you will fall in sin in that so it’s not a problem like he gave the example of Wudo in Ramadan bro that’s not how it works sin is sin and Islam emphasizes on prevention than cure
@@omertasal i dont think he said something wrong
the Qur'an LITTERALLY said to women 'stay in your home and don't go outside like kaffir woman'
but I suppose the Qur'an has a "cultural bias" 😄
No it doesn't..
@@gilbert.mendez how about that , surah 33:33
Stay in your homes, and do not display yourselves as women did in the days of ˹pre-Islamic˺ ignorance.
@@elmundir These are the good manners which Allah enjoined upon the wives of the Prophet so that they would be an example for the women of the Ummah to follow. It follows the verse of surah 33:32,
"O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women: if you are mindful ˹of Allah˺, then do not be overly effeminate in speech ˹with men˺ or those with sickness in their hearts may be tempted, but speak in a moderate tone."
@@mustaqimmarsidi6546 when you wrote "which is an example for the women of the ummah to follow" are you answering yourself for me ?
so yeah I agree with yourself response this verse apply to all woman because of wife if the prophet are indee the best example for women since they have their "mother of the believers " according to another verse
You need to stop making things up. The Prophet's wives used to teach the religion.
Why are you touching on education of women? I believe the most important issue here is the bombing of mosque in Pakistan that killed scores of policemen recently. Or am I missing something here? The bombing of mosques are not so important compare to deprivation of education
Are both not important???
Women literally not being able to even go to secondary school or college is a big deal too
This is a logical Fallacy called whataboutism
Wait... deprivation of education=loss of lives?
ttp is a different group made by nato this group is less then 10 years old
Look I'm not a fan of explanation of Dr Shabir Ally. At the same time I'm fine with women getting educated till college and even doing Masters but what I'm not a fan of is education and career being priority. I think they should get married early around 25 have children and once children grow up then it's fine if she wants to work and as long as it doesn't compromise kids and household
I think all should be priority. I think best solution for women is get higher education earlier than men, so they can build their career before 30
Not everyone wants or can have children and education is the priority. Also unless you're becoming a doctor or something you'll be finished with education by 22 or 23
Good idea
With all due respect, women don't care what you think or whether you're fine with them getting a higher education. People will get married when they're ready and when Allah has written it for them. That may be at 20 or 25 or 35.
As a men I don't want to do household chores
It hurts my ego
Sorry to hear a very poor explanation by Dr Ally of the topic that was to be discussed.
In the final part his bias against the declaration by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH and his family) of Hazar Ali as "Aaron to Moses".
As good Muslims (Sunni, Shia) we learn from every one Buddhist, Christian, Jew, Hindu
or non believers.
Let's take Indonesia as an example. Is there this "sin" as talked about in the video because male and female live as they do?
Let the Qur'an Speak! The presenters may lack the required knowledge and unfortunately on Islam it seems!