MORE FOOTAGE of the REAL (MARTHA) BABY REINDEER STALKER! RICHARD GADD accused by TRANS ACTRESS
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- MORE FOOTAGE of the REAL (MARTHA) BABY REINDEER STALKER! RICHARD GADD accused by TRANS ACTRESS
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He is mentally ill/traumatised, her abuse towards him exactly fitted his trauma coping mechanism and thats why he couldnt set clear boundaries and get rid of her. His trauma is so deep from the rape that he is stuck in a victim mentality and needs that abusive type of love, thats a trauma bond. The type of attention and love Martha gave him was in a sense just as intrusive and traumatising as the rape, making it feel strangely similar and safe. If he wasnt raped before he wouldve put clear boundaries up and also wouldnt have re contacted her. He always made the exact wrong choice, he never said he didnt like her, he desperately tried to not hurt her feelings or scare her away, because somewhere Deep down he didnt want her away because it fed into his trauma and made him feel just as bad. I know that sounds weird but that stuff happens with severe trauma. Martha could get this type of grip on him because her abuse towards him fit exactly in his trauma coping mechanism. He was vulnerable and stayed attached to her and she abused that, she knew he was hurt, she let him know she knew that, she realised he was still coming back one way or another because of this and played into the sexual role to trigger even more response. He was vulnerable and she saw that, hence why she picked him out to stalk and not someone else. Because he just couldnt put up clear boundaries like people could who Arent traumatised.
im also thinking was he SA's or was it consensual ..
he legit said yes to taking mdma then GHB from a stranger who was giving weird vibes before he went back with him.. at first its giving consensual he said YES to taking unknown substance from a stranger..
then went back the day after is it possible to have a trauma bond after a legit night? he swinged both ways and was into a crazy lifestyle normally that includes sex to. some people consent then claim to 'unconsent' after the experience wich isnt fair or possible. but he did walk right into unfortunate situations..
he knew his comedy wasnt that great but he was adamant he had something that would work over n over again.
Hypersexuality is a common coping mechanism for victims of SA sadly. Somebody i spoke to who went through a similar experience said they lost the connection between their body and brain, and that they felt dead inside but not outside so they had nothing to lose. Its a vicious cycle that needs destigmatising and talking about
@@Synfulz. Going to someone else's house or taking drugs with them is NOT consent. Consent is something given every time and not implied.
@@Synfulz. Saying yes to drugs doesn’t mean you give consent for someone to have sex with you btw
@@Synfulz.he consented to drugs, not to being tuched and fucked while being passed out and unconsious
I do agree it that situation sounds inappropriate and he also should have considered the behaviour of internet detectives before releasing this huge Netflix show. I do also think though that as a victim of some seriously harrowing abuse, he’s been really brave and honest and he has a right to be able to make art like this. It’s probably been really therapeutic for him and I wish him the best.
She's showing her true colours on Facebook, post after post of madness. Can imagine what Richard went through.
Sadly, it does look like it.
whats the best way to find the facebook account to check it out???
Fiona Harvey, Red and Yellow Roses Profile Picture @@arbol770
@@arbol770 the best way is not find it.. leave this woman alone. they're both ill
There's nothing wrong with telling someone you're attracted to them. He shows in the show how his relationship went with Terry, and he was unfair to her, but it also shows he was struggling with his sexuality at that time. I think Richard telling Reece he is attracted to her is nothing construed either, Reece appears to be making it out into something when all it is is that he fancied her, she probably wants exposure. If her story is true Richard appears to have been upfront with her how he was with Terry and that shows honesty to me. I think we will see alot of people coming out of the wood work with their own little stories, but they need to remember that people with low self esteem and have been abused can sometimes act irrationally, like Richard did with Martha in the beginning his actions could have been portrayed as him leading her on, how he dealt with her at the start shows lack of self esteem, but her actions following that were inappropriate, she saw a weak person and prayed on him.
Abused people never really get over it and are targets for narcissistic people, and the cycle continues again and again. This Reece is a prime example of someone who sees what Richard has gone through (a victim) and doesn't really care as she has taken it upon herself to use it for her own gain. People who have empathy for Richard would not have written that.
Yes, that is probably a fair assessment. I suppose the thing for me is, when you go for a job, as Reece was doing, you don't expect the person who is interested in you for the job to suddenly tell you they find you attractive. It's that incredibly quick overstep that concerned me. Having said that, maybe that does happen to people at job interviews and I can imagine it happens to a lot of women in the corporate world. You are of course right that when people get famous, suddenly lots of little stories about them emerge, a lot of which are nothing burgers.
I dont think Richard is in the wrong for making this show, he has been abused badly and alot of victims of abuse write books etc. It's a healing process and helps with moving on. But i do think he should have taken it further with his stalker with the police as she is out there now probably doing it to other people. He could have also as you mentioned set it in less obvious places and not made Martha look so much like the real person. People are naturally intuitive and searching for the real perpetrators has been made too easy. It may not have been his intention for people to look, however also it could have been his intention for 'Martha' to leave him alone. He's got PTSD he will probably be still terrified. She's going to reappear again, so I think the show could be him putting up a shield and telling her to basically f off, people finding out the real person would probably feel like he has some sort of protection.
I dont know, just trying to say it as I see it. I have also been through trauma and I think that is how i would feel.
Yes, exactly right. He's not wrong for making it but he and the show's producers should have gone far further in absolutely covering the identity of everyone involved. As you say, him not taking it further legally with 'Martha' causes the problem we see now, she's out there and it seems to have really triggered her. Similarly with Darrien, him not reporting it and Darrien not being arrested means innocent parties get get accused as there is no public record of the crimes and any justice being dished out. Sorry to read you have suffered trauma.
I've seen the whole series and it is very well done. It's an interesting conversation to have surrounding the topic of stalking and the one being stalked.
I'm not surprised by the amount of people jumping on the bandwagon to find who the people are. It's human curiosity but people should be thinking before trying to expose others and possibly bring attention to completely innocent parties.
I honestly believe that he's still not comfortable with himself. He has a lot of trauma and mental health issues that he needs to seek professional help for, i hope that he currently working with a professional to better his mental health and address his past trauma.
I find it interesting that she made similar choices to him. She set boundaries, but didn’t uphold them & agreed to date.
There were warning signs that were pushed through. Not judging, I’ve definitely done this, ignored signs giving the person the benefit of the doubt. We all probably have to some extent. A trauma you have been through can make you hyper vigilant or dismissive of your own thoughts, or even a mix of the two.
its fiona harvey
Interesting, I haven’t seen the show yet, I might have to start it this weekend. It does seem kind of problematic if people have easily been able to find the real person
I agree. I think they should have covered it all up much better. Have a LOVELY weekend watching it!
Watch it mate, it's really good. It hits deep, the complexity of the characters is brilliant. Gadd really did a good job reliving it
0:46 shook😂 it looks exactly the same
So you mean to say that this man who wrote an entire play and then show about his own experiences where he behaves in the exact way this actress has accused him of is *GASP*, exactly the person he presents himself to be?? I could not be less surprised by this as (in my personal observations) when one’s ego is fed it tends to get bigger rather than smaller and more controlled. As insightful as Gadd comes off he is just as flawed and multifaceted as his stalker. It takes a certain personality type to believe one’s own story is so fascinating (even if that is true) it warrants an entire Netflix series. As Maya Angelou said….”when someone shows you who they are…..believe them the first time”……especially when they do it with an entire play and subsequent show on the worlds largest streaming platform.
You have made some very good points there. I came away from the show basically thinking the same thing: the biggest problem is essentially Gadd himself. Yes, no one should be sexually assaulted or stalked but he seemed to be so naive about everything and yet also incredibly worldly at the same time. I was rather confused...
I’ve watched the whole show I thought it was really good it is a bit scary and will be triggering for some people unfortunately but well worth the watch.
Professor McGonnagal soundin ahhhh
There’s two sides to every story.
Exactly.
That "actress" needs to get over herself and grow up. 😂
Hes just working on series 2
Really? What on earth could be next???
i think because his comedy didnt work out (the comedy was failing before the SA)
he wanted to strive in the entertainment scene he wanted to be seen as validated.
he managed to get it from exaggerating his story..
and exposed other people with lies and truth... ( kinda like martha but most of hers was lies and some truth lol) (no wonder they had a weird connection)
he fell into alot of unfortunate situations (before the SA)
walked right into the SA situation.. openly went back with a creepy dude.. ? accepted MDMA and GHB OPENLY ( all adults know what ghb is or to not accept random drugs off strangers HE WAS LEGIT a stranger he was alone with... )
he was very much into the wreckless /party scene as it is. idk it almost seemed to me like he dived head first into danger.
so yeah ofc he is a victim now because he found a way to it.
situations wich could of been easily avoided.
i found people pleasing isnt a way of people pleasing at all.
agreeing to everything they say can backfire for you and them.
(you cant unconsent for example)
people pleasing leads to you becoming a victim.
- avoid people pleasing if you genuinely want to be safe. saying NO to everything i dont want to do has got me a long way lol.
im not the only one either that see this whole tv series like this.
ive heard people say he was overly empathic, (how? being empathic would make u avoid situations even more because its off)
These are valid points. I have to say, the 'taking substances' point you make is incredibly important. I mean, everyone is taught as a kid to not wander off with strangers and yet, as you say, he willingly took stuff with Darrien and some of the stuff they were taking seemed so incredibly dangerous, I struggled to believe ANY adult would be dumb enough to take that stuff in such quantity and with such regularity!
@@yazzfetto I did that actually. I had curiosity/deathwish plus wanted the person to love me back. I suspect he already was sexually attracted with Darien (albeit not admitting it) before being raped and Darien knew that but still chose to drug and rape him to get his power fix.
@@yazzfetto you have to factor in the peer pressure of it. he was with this highly successful man who was telling him he could make all his dreams come true as he has done for others. and when he asked how the others did it, he said by doing as he says. his young, naive self obviously would do what this older, highly successful guy told him to do if it meant he had a shot of living the life he so desperately dreamed of. he was manipulated and groomed. the fact that people are saying he was stupid for taking all that in the first place is completely ignoring the mental gymnastics he would probably have been going through at the time.
I think it is an abusive power dynamic between Gadd and Lyons. His "stalker" is also claiming that his stories are lies. And why would you make an exploitative film about a mentally ill women? If she was actually mentally ill as her portrayal suggests! Very unethical! Irresponsible and exploitative. The way he keeps saying in interviews "all i did was give someone a cup of tea", like he is a passive entity in his story! Ugh.
You do make some very good points here
I'd like to see his real interactions with "martha" who's to say he wasnt leading her on or keeping her hanging. He did say in the series he kept her in his life. Did he encourage her? Lead her on? Did she get the wrong idea based on what he said to her? People are only seeing one side of this.
Bang on. I completely agree.
So yes and no. He is mentally ill/traumatised. His trauma is so deep from the rape that he is stuck in a victim mentality and needs that abusive type of love, thats a trauma bond. The type of attention and love Martha gave him was in a sense just as intrusive and traumatising as the rape, making it feel strangely similar and safe. If he wasnt raped before he wouldve put clear boundaries up and also wouldnt have re contacted her. He always made the exact wrong choice, he never said he didnt like her, he desperately tried to not hurt her feelings or scare her away, because somewhere Deep down he didnt want her away because it fed into his trauma and made him feel just as bad. I know that sounds weird but that stuff happens with severe trauma. Martha could get this type of grip on him because her abuse towards him fit exactly in his trauma coping mechanism. He was vulnerable to stay attached to her and she abused that, she knew he was hurt, she let him know she knew that, she realised he was still coming back one way or another because of this and played into the sexual role to trigger even more response. He was vulnerable and she saw that, hence why she picked him out to stalk and not someone else. Because he just couldnt put up clear boundaries like people could who Arent traumatised.
I mean... wasn't that explained clearly in the show? And a major plot point? He showed pretty earnestly that he made lots of wrong choices and that he often found roundabout ways to keep her in his life. Not because of attraction but because of the comfort a relationship like that brought to him. And the last scene is so telling, how he too could be someone's Martha
@LidiaPizz Right so then why say she's a stalker if he was encouraging her to be in his life. Interestingly enough I found an article from a few years ago where Gadd said "To call her a stalker is unfair"
He has also added to the story. The show is BASED on real events. Meaning not everything is fact but yet people are taking the show as gospel as if it is all true.
@@rosewest5168Yes, Donny/Richard encouraged it in some/many ways but he also literally explained why in the series; he felt pity for her and also the attention she gave him also made him feel good. He's never stated that what he did wasn't messed up or that he was the only victim. You can be a victim and "at fault" at the same time :)
I literally watched it all this morning, and wow, I'm shocked that woman Martha is disgusting and clearly needs help! Poor Richard🩷💖💙🩵💜❤more awareness for stalking crimes, please. It doesn't matter if you are a famous celebrity or not, it should be taken more seriously by police🥺🥺hope he's doing better now. I believe not everything in the show is true, but is the real stalker out of prison, and did she really only get 9 months in prison?
Apparently, she didn't go to prison. I think they added that for the show. I think Gadd said in an interview that he got a restraining order against her but he let her be spared prison as he felt she was mentally ill and prison wouldn't help her. If she had gone to prison, I think we'd be able to find newspaper reports about it. I think stalking is probably quite difficult to sentence for. I know the former CZcamsr Alex Belfield got 5 years for stalking and Jeremy Vine referred to him as the 'Jimmy Savile' of stalkers so...that would seem a quite serious amount of jail time for stalking.
@yazzfetto Hi yazz, thank you so much for your reply. I really appreciate it 😊 wow that's ridiculous and crazy. He's too nice. Honestly, other people would be like lock her up and throw away the key 🔑 in prison. Thanks for letting me know that! Interesting information because I just thought she did go to prison 😂😂she should have, but that's my personal opinion. You may disagree, but what are your thoughts and feelings on that topic? Also, have you watched it all yet? But anyway, I love your videos, yazz , so keep up the great work, and please never leave CZcams! Have a lovely day and weekend! 😊🫶🏼✨️🤞🏻
I've been subscribed to you for years and watch every video and like them but rarely comment, but I thought I would for a change, lol! :)
@yazzfetto Did he really date a Transgender woman and get sexually assaulted by Martha and do drugs and get r word by him? He never actually said from what I've seen. I'm just curious, no hate, so if you or anyone knows, then please let me know. Thank you!
@@becksford589yes it’s all true
Reece is out for attention 🙄