Everything you need to know about Richard Gadd, the creator of Baby Reindeer
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I was not expecting to be in tears at the last few episodes. This story was told so well, but very heartbreaking. Donnyâs dad was my favorite character.
Tom Christie of outlander.
I started bawling when his dad said he was raised in the Catholic church.
@@kyndramb7050 Iâm still tearing up thinking about it. Especially when he hugged him afterwards đ„ș.
Also how he was dealing with Martha over the phone. Loved him immediately
@@kyndramb7050i guess his dad was rape also inside the catholic church by a priest
The actress who plays Martha. Wow! She was awesome.
I don't like her in real life. LOL
@@Brenda-uw3jkyou met her was she rude ?
@@almuntasirvI think theyâre talking about the actual stalker, not the actress
@@almuntasirv Its a joke genius đ
@@Brenda-uw3jk Shit joke genius
The predator grooming him was more disturbing to me than Martha. He needs to be exposed!
Exactly this !!!
Richard stated that everybody in the industry knows who he is.
He has money and influence so he carnt be touched
People are suggesting Sam Bain is a possibility.
@@em70171thinking the same tbh
His dad asking him if he sees him less than a man and Donny realizes what his father is sharing him. Then, when his dad chooses to hug him instead of a handshake, that broke me.
Brilliantly written, compelling performances. This is Emmy worthy.
Yup that got me too
I cried my eyes out at that scene
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I didn't understand that scene..his father said he grew up in church what does that mean? They r-pe ppl in church?
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can we just talk about his acting? because dear God that was one of the best performances ive seen in a while. By the end of the year i have no doubt that his performance will be remembered as one of the best
the actress who played Martha made the show she definitely deserves all the awards on offer.
Yep agreed!!!!
The second last episode when he was on stage.... I actually was so immersed that I had to press pause and get up of the couch. Powerful stuff !!!
I know he re-tell the story, he is the main character in that story too , so I thought he break some reality wall and it feel very genuine!
Yes. I was so impressed by his acting. I canât believe he went through this. I feel for the guy. Sending him love
absolutley 100% agree
It's hilariously ironic that the real "Martha" has come out the woodwork exclaiming she is nothing like how she is depicted in Baby Reindeer.
By coming out the woodwork and acting EXACTLY like Martha in Baby Reindeer.
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@@jonny9597 The real Martha. Actually called Fiona. She's identified herself to the news the idiot.
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I swear she just gave a whole other layer of realism to the show đđ
Yeeees!! Types/misspells just like he said. And she rambles like the show! EXACTLY like Martha!
I have tears in my eyes. We know how much conversation thereâs to be had around SA as women, but itâs so very rarely talked about SA happening to men and my heart breaks & is also so immensely proud of Richard for being a voice for men having experienced this in his show. I had no idea him in the show was the creator let alone also the one that experienced it. I canât imagine how difficult it must have been, possibly triggering. Heâs done something incredible, giving a voice to these men who experienced SA. Showing the stigma also around the âwhy did you wait so long to report itâ. All the respect to him. â€ïžâđ„
Jw. Why are you sensoring sexual assault? Is the United States no longer a free speech Country? CZcams has a global reach. So any sensoring here is only grooming you for overall sensoring.
Feminists shouldn't be allowed to control the discussion on SA. SA should be discussed gender neutrally and shelters should be as well.
He loved it really.
There's not much discussion to be had female wise. Men are SA'd far far more, and no not by other men but women as well before you try that argument.
@@PMCFrontLines what is your source for that information? because it sounds to me that you are trying to be a victim so badly.
I canât believe he chose to act all of his trauma out. It mustâve been therapeutic in a way I guess, but to embody and relive all of that pain again to tell your story is something I could never do. How honestly strong and badass of him.
Agreed. I could never. Good on him.
Agreed, almost like he's acting...a .... story
Considering how he admits through the show that he was almost as obsessive as Martha was and had an unhealthy fascination with her lasting months after the trial, I don't think this was some great act of therapy
@@alexjames7144 it kind of is like exposure therapy and being able to let it all out but through a creative outlet yk. Most people wouldnât admit to stuff like that and for that reason his unveiled vulnerability seems to be a means to heal himself to me. But, to each their own đ€·ââïž
@@melancholicpeaceencapsulated I highly doubt that most therapists would consider physically acting out your own trauma repeatedly in front of a camera crew to be a good idea. That's not what exposure therapy is.
This show was clearly just because he had a really interesting life story that would make lots of money as a TV show, and he doesn't appear to actually be very good as a comedian. He was making this show, trauma be damned, for the money.
Like that's fair, he can do what he wants. If he decides to capitalise on his trauma that's his business but let's call a spade a spade.
He did a Brilliant job. Regardless of the true story and how traumatic and absolutely disgusting that is. He turned his story into something that can possibly help thousands of people come forward against their attackers and i hope we hear stories of âI watched baby reindeer and it helped me come forward to report what happened to meâ
Wait itâs a real sorry like in real life ??? About him ???
I have heard of at least 4 people I personally know who said they ended up making appointments with therapists and doctors after seeing the show.
I think it's helpful to so many.
I didn't know it was about him and thought it was a different true crime show when I started. I was not prepared.
The conversations it's started alone makes it an important project.
@@riz-rq9wrYes - itâs based on a true story. His Stalker is at it again by seeking to sue him and Netflix. Stalkers have a hard time giving up their Targets.
@@christinebuckingham8369 therein lies the problem, Netflix said this " is" a true story instead of is "based" on a true story, the lead actor and producer already said martha never went to prison , he couldn't further punish her so just added that part in, this will comeback to bite him on his backside as its not true that she did any jail time, I tuned jn to lawyers on piers morgan after he interviewed the real martha , slippery slope Netflix has gone down with this story, either way the real martha is weird af, says she's never watched baby reindeer but is suing every man/ woman and their dogs lol
â@@riz-rq9wrNetflix says in the series "this is a true story". It seems now that certain elements were falsified. And the woman is going after him because he reproduced tweets from her verbatim so it was easy for people to find her and she has been harassed to the point where she decided to get some of this money he's making
Martha was fabulous. Jessica you nailed it, you deserve an Oscar and a golden globe 100%, mark my words â€
I watched every episode in one night ⊠pulled an all nighter and I was just BLOWN AWAY!! Had a grip on my for sureâŠ
Me too it got dark so fast đ
How can u watch all the episodes in 1 night dont u have work
Not being rude just curious
Same đ I was up until half 1 in the morning
Yo tambien, mi cara era esta đ° en todos los capĂtulos, aun sigo en shock
â@@em_i_lee7884 7pmish to midnight... It's not that bad of a run
I was amazed the first few episodes after finding out this was actually him playing himself. But mid way through the show I became horrified. I canât imagine what it must have been like to relive the terrible things he went through and have to actually act them out.
And the actress who played Martha was also fantastic. She made me hate her but also feel sad for her and she did an amazing job at portraying a stalker.
He's actually so handsome...I'm glad he's fine and doing well...he's been through a LOT
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Desde que lo vi por primera vez en la serie lo encontré guapo
He is fine though! đ«Ł
seriously he is definently handsome
I loved this much more than I expected to. Having personally overcome childhood sexual abuse, serious drug addiction and extreme self loathing- I was so moved by how honest and vulnerable he was, especially playing himself. â€
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So bro basically acted the lead of his non fiction experiences. He's the real life person, writer, AND lead actor?! That's absolutely splendid frankie...
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I was floored when I found out! He was essentially reliving everything he went through đź
@@ajheartsong itâs almost like he did it all to make a tv show out of it đ§
Hah, I like what you did at the end đ
Tsk tsk ... this shit had me all day man
The almighty $. I don't even wanna know if I wanna watch real Martha! đź n my cat had kittens been tryna pick names n I swear i was redi to go with frank... now I'm questioning everything!
â@lolaoutloud_ love ur handle
Don't worry I'm no Martha .. maybe cuz I like the loud house cartoon đ
martha's actress, phenomenal, she deserves an award. excellent acting.
It's not an easy watch but the cast is super talented and the script is raw and honest. It was just the fresh kind of writing perspective we need today!
Iâm not convinced by Richard Gadd, I think he used artistic licence and got carried away.
He should name the guy who fiddled with him if itâs true, he has to so it doesnât happen to others.
Na because who is he to have that sort of authority over Netflix show developers and production teams? I bet Netflix paid him to use his story (and given his depicted self worth he probably took what Netflix offered--chump change) OR he made a deal with Netflix saying that they can use his story, have creative control and turn it how they want it AS LONG AS he can be in the show. They obliged. Who knows, just my predictions.
I agree though the whole thing is fishy
He tested the idea at Fringe after a failed career. Realised he could capitalise on it. Let's not forget The Blair Witch Project was marketed as a true story. This is a hoax. It's all too convenient and is mad suspo.
y'all don't really think for real, do you
look, I think the story is great. but I'm also not convinced by him. there's something about him and my brain says "nope".
It really good I love this, I want to tell him he is a good guy , love his parent
his parents seem like such dolls. and i want to hug him and his father for happened to them as someone who also has experienced SA. it makes u second guess yourself and where u belong. no one deserves to feel that way
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@@MiMi-Music-Official lol
This series was GRIPPING. This story, Gaddâs story is one that Iâm glad was told. It was complex, the feelings of discomfort I felt were palpable.
Iâm sure he hasnât been as honest as he claims , why donât you go on Piers and let see what happens
this. he gives me "the ick" đ
I legit binged the entire thing in 4 hours! Itâs so good
Me 2 just now !
I watched it. Im still uncertain about it......but the actress that was Martha? OMG she deserves any award available!!! Amazing talent there
This matter is more complicated than it would appear at first.
This show had me literally sobbing. I cry all the time in sad movies sure, but this was different, I felt like someone I knew personally was going through their worst moments, and it broke my heart. Tugging on someone's heart strings is one thing, but this man literally reached into my heart, and touched my soul.
Well said.
#1 in Croatia aswell
I have to give massive credit to the art and prop departments in this show. Very rarely have I seen period-accurate user interfaces so accurately represented. But also the actual devices too!
Today #1 in Brazil also
Profound story. Also shocked at the great acting.
Also #1 in Finland.
#1 in Morocco as well
Love morocco. Such an amazing country
It is a good series but why won't he name his abuser, made it easy enough to find her so why not him, he could have probably abused countless others in the time since it happened to him, possibly even to younger boys.
I get it's a dramatisation of true events but if the abuse was as bad as potrayed or worse surely you wouldn't want the same to happen to to others.
I have my own experience of abuse so I'm not just surmising here. Richard Osman says that everybody within the comedy circle knows who he is but Gadd has the personal experience & knows it to be true. It's kind of similar to how Saville was protected for years and allowed to continue to abuse!!
Totally agree with you. It looks hypocritical to me that they easily found the real Martha, but not a word about his real abuser???
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People are speculating that his abuser is Sam Bain. If you ask me, he fits the "profile" to a T, and the actor that plays the abuser physically resembles Sam Bain.. which, I don't think is a coincidence.
it's not that simple. it's unlikely that gadd has any evidence for what happened at this point, so if he named who did it, he would just be sued into hell for defamation. we don't know the real story of what exactly happened so let's refrain from saying what he "should" have done or what he "should" do.
Soooooooo gooooood!! And the actor is the actual guy that got stalked! Craaaaazzyyyy! Highly recommend!
The actors are all amazing. â€
Thank you for sharing your story, Richard.
This interview could a part of a black mirror episode .. She is scary đąđą
There is still more to come from this story, Darrien really needs to be identifed really to protect others
Brought to justice. Naming and shaming isnt useful unless he's proven guilty in court
Sam Bain probably. Writer of Peep show, "a peep at fame" is mentioned multiple times, and there are also other quotes from the show. He is a buddhist. He made his socials private since the release of Baby Reindeer.
â@@DuSeunstop speculating. there's no point, it's not going to lead to anything except for harm
Emmy worthy.
He looked so gaunt in the film and also much older than he does in real life.
I thought that he looked rough like he actually does abuse drugs
The acting was simply brilliant. You can feel his conflict as to what's happening to him, the callous colleagues he works with and all the others who create doubt in his mind that what's happening is wrong, simply because he's a man. The sexual assault scene was brilliantly done.The fact that he was touched unwillingly but had a fairly normal male reaction and the hate he felt for himself for that was heartbreaking. People should be talking about that.
#1 in The Netherlands
I think he really wanted to show him being assaulted. The man who did it should be brought to justice.
Kat, Did you hear the wrong guy has been being harrassed badly? The real guy not called out for major predator behavior.
â@kathybutterfield2760 who was the "wrong guy" and how do we know?
#1 in Italy
Also #1 in MĂ©xico
#1 in Netflix Argentina. Just watched it. So heartbreaking
There is still more to come from thiis story, Darrien really needs identifed really to protect others.
I saw Baby Reindeer and it was so enthralling! I couldnât stop watching it (was late at night and had to go to bed!) - the actors are amazing and so well written!!
One of the most gripping pieces of media that I've watched in a very long time.
I wasn't sure about this when i first put it on.....but i was hooked after the first episode and watched it all in one night. I thought it went abit awry with the drugs and assult!! But its his story and i felt for him and his situation. â€
Absolutely brilliant, so well written and acted.
Itâs not completely a tru story as the real Martha was not arrested, Netflix duty of care was not there and now she has been found and pushed in to the public eye, their gonna get sued I think and rightly so?
Bingo
I believe it was never claimed to be 100% real?
no shit sherlock, this show never claimed to be a documentary
In the beginning it says true story? Not based on tru events, Sherlock!
@@maefromnitw4091 it clearly says true story
The real martha. She also went on a talk show and holy cow is she exactly like Martha.
I don't agree that it was because of a "simple act of kindness ". It was because of a lack of boundaries. It's important to be aware of this, because many of us could benefit from having stronger boundaries.
The acting classes he took worked. Great performance
Anyone see the interview with the real life Martha on Piers Morgan?
yeah, i lowkey believe her ngl
I believe he is also put sone extravaganza on it
if guys want to know how women feel, this is exactly how. put yourself in his shoe and you'll get a glimpse of what women go through.
This !!
Lmao way to make it about yourself đ
â@@JohnWall-lj1mx Yes! Because men has no empathy unless it's happens to himđ€·
Is it really? This guy couldâve avoided all this shit. I find it hard to feel sympathy for a guy who provoked his aggressors. Is this really the guy you want to give your perspective?
@@avoidantbehavioryou donât get it.
I was in a similar situation with a man while I was working at a pub⊠went on for about a year. Luckily I moved to another town because of a job opportunity but imagine what it could have been! Thank you for telling your story
No you weren't you're hijacking a story about male victims of sexual violence being neglected and making it about women. I'm calling you out for it.
Why is Everyone obsessed with the stalker ( a mentally unstable woman who accepted kindness from someone and ended up infatuated)
Yet no attention being payed to the serious sexual drug infused assault by the guy?? And why Gadd kept going back for more?
Everyone looking for the deranged real stalker but no one is looking for his high profile rapist guy?? Fucking weird world we live in - be kind â€
The Darrien episode really brought me to tears, multiple times. I hope Richard gets Justice for what the disgusting pos did to him..
i think people are over glorifying this story. he let her on too and enjoyed the attention. it really is a story of a bunch of sick people
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Thank you! I think he's just as creepy as the rest of them
I think most who saw this agrees.. it's like not hidden in any way imo.
i think that you and the people agreeing with this oversimplified take just kind of don't like to think past a certain point of complexity. he told her to her face several times to stop and that he was not interested in her that way, but she was deluded. he is not on the same level as the woman who assaulted multiple people and groped him, nor is he on the same level as the man who raped him. please have a sense of scope. reducing this story to just a bunch of "sick people" is so simple and obtuse
1) organisation*
2) I reckon Richard is making himself out to be better than he actually was. Iâd say he is more guilty than he portrayed.
Yeah, he's definitely a heinous person
he was obviously traumatized but his actions were awful. hope he had more time to heal and get better since those incidents
â@@MsVorpalBladehow do you know?
what are you talking about. he didn't portray himself to be perfect. everyone is flawed. but because you have made up some different version of this story in your mind, he must be a bad person because ??? because you have a feeling??? i don't understand how you guys process the world around you
@@maefromnitw4091 ironic seeing as you got upset and offended and decided to change the narrative based on your own feeling.
Not a single person on this thread said he claimed to be perfect.
I literally never said I think heâs a bad person.
You made up a warped version of history in your own mind because your feelings got the better of you.
Calm down and grow up baby reindeer. Donât be so gullible and believe every single thing shown to you without question.
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Weird how they say she stalked him after he lead her on over and over and over even after having a restraining order put on her he still lead her on again and again. Dudes a melt of a man
This story line is not at all thst rare. This happens to people all of the time, and thats why this is such a relatable series. Really great series. I hope there will be sequels. Amazing acting, too.
Not sure what world you live in, but this is kinda rare. Stalkers that send you over 43000 emails isnt something that happens alot
â@@joeymims5852 stalkers are not uncommon
why would there be sequels. it's not a fictional story that can go on forever
Everybody talks about Martha but what happened to his abuser, has he been punished ?
Martha is the abuser the show is about. She stalked, harassed, sexually assaulted him then tried to sabotage his comedy career.
Idk I think they are both weird. The fact that he made a show and plays himself and remembered every little detail. Seems like he has a problem too đ
Remembered every detail? What... Did you even watch it. He had literal TONS of material in the form of emails and voicemails! He needn't remember anything... đ€Š
IDC Kevin đ€Ł
They both weird đ€Ż
Honestly, watching the show and seeing her personality I wondered if something like this might happen. But all she proved by doing that interview is that she definitely did it. But the more nuanced point that I think a lot of people missed is that Gad blames himself too, he claims he had a lot of problems too and there were things he should have done to stop it /not show interest but he didnât cause he was insecure and had his own mental health struggles. There is no 100% blame as he knows he wasnât totally innocent in what went down either.. I donât think people understand that. The show is meant to show the complexity of it cause itâs shown that the women is very mentally unwell and delusional.
I went from laughing to crying as a survivor I know how trauma PTSD and depression messes with you this guy is strong and amazing for sharing his story it happens to men too and needs to be taken more seriously
Jessica Gunning was amazing as Martha
Started watching last night. Did 4 episodes in one go! Can't wait to see the rest
this show was such a beautiful work of art. i wrote a poem after watching it because it touched me so deeply. absolutely amazing writing and performance
I donât think she could have done a better job of convincing everyone she is Martha⊠đ Absolutely bang to rights.
He's so brave and although it's not exactly what happened it is really good and I found everything appreciate. It shows the victim in many lights. We should never blame you a victim but you can see the mentality that allows victim hood. He wants me wants the attention and the comedy work from his stalker and his rapist and his mind keeps hoping even though the actions tell the opposite
What in the show didnât happen?
#1 in Portugal
The way she acted reminded me of my kids Mom. Harassing me,my family,work,and life in general. There's people out there that are actually like her.
Well, what *can* one really add to the conversation after pretty much everything that *can* be said about this superb drama series has been stated clearly and fully already?
First of all, I had not expected a true story, let alone all the myriad twists and turns the story ultimately took. But in short, WOW! Talk about pushing ALL the emotional buttons. As dark as the story gets, I had not anticipated *at all* just where the story was going to lead.
Superb casting all round, and superbly acted. Finally, kudos to Richard Gadd - I dare say it was a catharsis of sorts, mining and reliving painful emotional trauma first-hand, let alone spinning it out into what has undoubtedly already established itself as something of a high-water mark in dramatic creativity. Hats off to ya, squire!
He exposed and named the woman only. Not the man who sexually abused him. What a brave 'man' that is
He didn't expose and name anyone? She named herself freely.
Iâm sorry, but this entire series pissed me off. This man had ample opportunity to report Martha. He only went in sympathised with her day in day out. It took him six months. He even helped her back into her house when she was waiting at the bus stop all night. And he even admits that he liked the attention she gave him.
Yeah the show was dog shite, no good.
I was annoyed by him too Plus leaving with ex girlfriend mother? Come on
I agree. It made me mad how he leads her on repeatedly. And the trans person. And still hasn't reported the man groomer, rapist.
@@kathybutterfield2760 exactly. People told him to stay away. And report Martha. Repeatedly. Over and over. His ex and her mom, that trans girl. They all told him. And he still chose to ignore. Not saying he deserved what he went through absolutely not. However there needs to be some accountability. He put himself into a lot of situations that he couldâve turned away from. 6 months of Marthaâs stalking and he still felt sorry for her and sympathised with her because she was clearly a mental case and not right in the head. So stupid.
Agreed, he's actually a bit of a prick and if you look into it a tad more, you start to uncover all the so called truths, are in fact, not
Get it right mate it was 41000 emails not text messages
Sort your research out
I watched the first 4 episodes, and later in the day, I watched the last 3. So much talk about the stalker involved, but by episode 4 is when you find out the real truth for his story. To say it blew me away was an understatement. This was a compelling and tough true story to share but deserves to win awards.
Best show Iâve seen in a lonnnnnngggggg time
The real Martha has come out and revealed herself. She is STILL stalking him in that way, can you believe the audacity of her? Wouldn't you hide in shame if you were her? Apparently not!
And feminist man haters are still denying it and victim blaming the man for being groomed & stalked by a woman. It really is disgusting.
Sheâs delusional- no self awareness
Brilliant show. I cried throughout the last 2 episodes, really got to me.
The fact she outed herself too, she has nothing to even sue for.
Fame hungry--which he himself admits--and did precious little to hide the identity of people who gave no consent to be swatted.
#1 Australia
Lil fyi for you all. The pub he worked in is called the Hawley arms. It's a famous pub in Camden town (London). According to staff the events happened over 10 years ago.
His acting and his writing and the humanity that he so generously lends the Martha character >>>
That was one of his few mistakes. Shouldn't have humanised her.
He's acting as himself. How hard is that?
You mean the woman he led on?
The only thing that annoys me is the fact that he didn't expose who the se&#al abuser is, he must be doing the same until now to other guys. đą
Because he didn't really care about anybody else but him. He loves the attention and sympathy he gets as a victim.
Imagine how the abuser feels now though.. number 1 show across the globe, all this attention, he must be scared đ±... I'm sure we'll all find out soon enough who it is ..in the meantime , just deserts Mr? đ€
He kept coming back so maybe the other guy thought it was all some role play they both enjoyed
â@@MeryxAngel bro..abuse fucks you up. Sympathy is the least that someone who is abused could care about.
#1 in Colombia
A real emotional rollercoaster. I recommend
this show was absolutely riveting from start to finish, the acting and writing is just incredible
Richard seems very manipulative, and he seems to actively engage in all of these relationships as a sort of ftish.
If you look at the real martha, you are not going to think that richard is manipulative
@@adviteeyapanwar9900 I watched her interview. Did you know they have yet to find any proof that she did the things he claims?
@@ncorp2668 idc about the proof , but it seems that she is very capable of doing those things. She was accused of stalking in the past. And her personality in the interview is also very similar to that of the show. According to her she only met richard 2 or 3 times, and to portray someone's personality with this accuracy by only meeting 2 or 3 times seems suspicious.
@@adviteeyapanwar9900âidc about proof her personality vaguely matches up with the exaggerated madwoman in the showâ what a gullible person you are
I donât think that Richard is 100% innocent in all of this. Letâs see.. Richard stated in his story that he didnât know what his sexuality is was? He found himself drawn to Martha because she made him feel good for examples she laughed at his rubbish jokes when no one else would! she was there for him all the time Martha made sure she mentioned things they had in common! This makes him drawn to Martha it makes him feel special he then of course craves that feeling no? He finds comfort in Martha so he entertains the situation he know heâs getting into! Also his sexuality not knowing if he was nor straight he comes across as a confused man not knowing what he wants? I do feel he gave mix signals to all 3 of his characters tori martha and Damian. He claims Damian abused him so why keeping going back? Yes of course what he did was awful but he entertained it and allowed it to happen
I thought the exact same thing !!! I actually didnât really like him very much because you can tell he likes the attention he gets as a victim thatâs why he let everything just happen even though he knew it was wrong .
He never claims to be innocent in the show. In fact the show is exactly about the gray areas between victim and abuser. No black and white. No good vs evil.
@@juliogutierrez4465he literally admits this himself in the show. You guys are just repeating what he has said. He was clearly not trying to make himself look good, he was very honest about how not innocent he was.
If you have to question why someone goes back to an abuser, I can only assume youâre either very young/inexperienced or have the privilege of never having to find out. All types of abuse are capable of changing the way you think. Abusers have a way of making you feel seen, feel special, and to someone in a vulnerable position Gadd experiences this when his whole life seems to be falling apart and he feels entirely useless to the world, broke, unloved, like a failure, until that man comes along. The amount of people preyed upon in this way who succumb to addiction initiated by someone seeking to use and abuse us is astounding and it can be hard to talk about when comments like yours assume weâre lying or that we must be enjoying the abuse somehow. Until itâs happened to you (I hope it never does) most people assume theyâre not at risk of addiction, and donât quite understand the potential for damage from accepting drugs like this even once or twice - you can become an addict to something in that short amount of time, especially those of us with a history of depression or addiction in our family. This new relationship where weâre fed drugs by someone seeking to disarm us creates a physiological and psychological need to return to your supply. Our logical mind knows itâs not smart, but in the throes of addiction, depression, vulnerability, loneliness, adult responsibility, and with the risk of tormenting, sometimes deadly, drug withdrawal, our logical mind does not have the wheel. All of us make decisions regularly that arenât in our best interest, for example, posting this comment here knowing it would likely be painful for those of us with similar experiences to Gaddâs, but we do these things anyway. Rational minds donât always prevail, particularly with addiction involved. I deduce from your comment that youâve never been exposed to the particular drugs referenced in this part of the story, and again, I truly hope you never find out. The scene with Gadd waking up mid-SA is so disturbingly common and relatable to so many adults.
Finally, him not knowing his sexuality is not uncommon but even still, even if he was giving âmixed signalsâ, (Gadd acknowledges this in the show, he says he realized that him returning or behaving that way with those people was not a smart choice) the minute someone tells you ânoâ or shows even the slightest indication that he or she is uncomfortable with what is happening, back off. If youâre not a predator and donât have foul intentions, slowing down will NOT upset you. Even if you do think someone feels the same as you, none of this is okay.
Hypothetically speaking: *even if Gadd was genuinely interested and flirting with Martha, even if he at some points let her believe they were dating or even if they had different ideas of a relationship; even if Gadd was interested in that man⊠under no circumstance is it EVER okay to invade someoneâs privacy and space to the extent Martha did, to publicly humiliate, to stalk, to make unwanted advances, to repeatedly contact someone after youâve been asked not to, or in the manâs case, to manipulate the power dynamic at hand by promising work that never comes, to persuade someone that you are providing a safe space for exploring and take advantage of a person who isnât capable of giving consent, to recognize the person youâve touched is uncomfortable/in fear and continue those advances. Even if you believe someone reciprocates how you feel, under NO circumstance is the misbehavior displayed by Martha and that man okay. Never. Not with a spouse, not with a friend, not with a colleague - absolutely NEVER is the harassment displayed in this story acceptable or healthy, no matter how âmisledâ you feel or if you believe âmixed signalsâ are at play.*
If you feel someone is sending you mixed signals, your response should NEVER be to pursue said person MORE after being asked to back off, or to double down on abusive and fear-inducing tactics. If youâre unsure of where you stand with a love interest in your life, you cannot go wrong by just backing off and slowing down. You can, however, destroy a person by attempting to persuade, harass and abuse your way into a relationship with that person. Nothing about behaving how Martha or the man did in the name of âmixed signalsâ should even be up for debate.
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They are phenomenal actors wow
He wowed me with his performance,fantastic acting from him
I don't believe everything shown in the series. Just compare the netflix version of the breakdown show with the real one. Totally different. Makes me question everything that went on. Don't be gullible folks
Yeah wouldnât surprise me if most of the story he told is exaggerated for dramatic effect
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Heâs so hot
Martha?
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@@Zilraythey were saying it as in a âare you Martha because youâre acting obsessed with himâ kinda way
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Why is no one talking about Darien
His comedy is absolutely horrible but the show and his acting was 10/10
I have to acknowledge, the plot alone was enough to make me watch it. I donât watch a lot of seriesâ but when a colleague mentioned it, I was like: âI want to watch that.â That same night I watched all 7 episodes.
Itâs incredible. Fair play to Gadd.
Itâs #2 in Philippines because the Kdrama Queen of Tears is currently #1