The problem is the show said THIS IS A TRUE STORY not based on and there’s a huge difference, and you shouldn’t casually say based on when thats not what was shown
I don't think the whole drink scene at the end is supposed to show that he's turning into a stalker, I think it's him realizing that none of what happened to him was earned. Just because you reach out and show sympathy to someone, doesn't mean you invited them to be obsessed with you or find you as their only source of validation.
woah i love this take, it’s saying that you really couldn’t have done anything. it’s not your fault because it all depends on what the person sitting in the chair chooses to do
i think it shows how people can take advantage of your vulnerability & instinct to be empathetic. it is human nature to sympathise with other human beings, that’s what this show is all about: how kindness can be bastardised & manipulated.
I believe Richard 100% but I just find it so weird how much hate Fiona is getting and everyone’s focusing on her but no one’s choosing to focus on the man that literally raped and drugged him
I’m not 100% but I think people accused the wrong guy and richard told people to stop speculating. Fiona seemed ready to give her two cents immediately
That's because his identity is not yet "discovered" even if it was it'd be alleged unless Richard or that person confirms it. The difference is Fiona had been discovered and it was all alleged until she came on the show confirming she was the stalker Richard was talking about. Fiona does deserve hate tbh but not to the extent of death threats... Also she brought this upon herself by FIRST mentally assaulting, Richard and his loved ones for years. THEN by coming on the show. He is allowed to talk about his own trauma and he did not need to cover his stalkers identity not even one bit. This woman brought it upon herself by stalking him for years. PERIOD
@@caro31099 we dont even know its the wrong person, Gadd would defend the guy till death anyway. Going back and allowing from what i can tell Gary Reich to continue his streak against other men is as evil. I have my doubts the rape scene happened how he made it out to be, he literally went for dicks after when he was a straight man. Now hes a gay man. Thats a bit weird to me.
I always thought the look at the end was signifying to him that all he did was offer a cup of tea to someone who looked down. Like he didn’t bring it upon himself
Ya. It shows that what he did with her (letting her have the cup of tea on the house) was something a lot of people would do and it doesn’t have to mean anything. It helps him realize that him offering her a cup of tea doesn’t mean he did anything wrong.
Because of baby reindeer, it helped me identify what actually happened and why i was doing this really self-destructive behavior. Made me realize i was groomed and assaulted repeatedly and i kept crawling back because my Immediate family wanted nothing to do with me. I was in that cycle for 15 years, Im 18 almost 19 now and feel like i finally have my hands on my own steering wheel because of this show.
I know I'm just a stranger on the internet but I'm a social worker irl. I'm so glad you've been able to identify what was happening to you. Do you have a support system at home?
Hi stranger, I’m finishing my degree in clinical counseling and I wanted to share this with you and I hope it can help you in your healing ❤️ When we are in danger we fall into states of defense. Most people know fight flight and freeze, but there is also fawn. Fawn is a trauma response where the survivor attempts to appease the abuser for a subconscious sense of protection. Our brain says, “this threat has some sort of power over me so if I do what they want and please them it will keep me safe.” That could’ve been why you kept going back - your subconscious was trying to protect you. I know it’s difficult to grasp, but I want to reiterate it is NOT your fault. It was never your fault. Additionally from what you were saying you were so young. Children especially fall into fawn because they haven’t yet learned what is a person of authority who can keep them safe. With your family turning their back on you, I’m sure it didn’t feel like they were people who could take care of you so it made this abuser see you as a good target for manipulation. That was their actions, not yours. My heart breaks for you and I am so so sorry. I can’t even imagine the pain that you have felt. I’m so happy to hear you are starting to gain some compassion for yourself and enter a path of healing and at the same time that path is not linear and I’m sure you’ve had moments where you feel right back at square one with your healing. With that being said, I hope this information will be something you can think back on to remind you that this was not your fault. I also hope you never discredit your resilience and remember that while the healing process will not be linear, you have already come so far by recognizing what you mentioned in this comment. Remember to give yourself credit where it is due. Healing does not move backwards. I’m so sorry that your family isn’t in your corner, but there are so so many people who see you and will be in your corner. I hope you find your way to them and they find your way to you ❤️
One of the things I loved about the show was that he didn't try to make himself look like a white knight. He was very open about the things he did wrong as well, he's not a complete victim. The ending to me is him understanding how Martha got to that place. He spent time trying to find meaning to her actions and I believe the ending was him getting that. As for the Piers Morgan interview...it was incredibly contradictory. She would deny then admit to some, say she didn't know where he lived but then admit to sending him a letter. It just showed how much of a liar she is and while it might not be exactly as the show says there seems to be some truth there. Plus she even mentioned she changed her last name which after searching her original name comes up with a stalking case she was involved in.
i always thought him getting the drink at the end was trying to tell us that its still good to show kindness like donny did in the begginning with the tea, and that it really wasnt his fault
Parts of the show were embellished and others simply didn't happen. Gadd has all but said this. She was never incarcerated. Some of these things are fairly easily checked.
I 100% believe Richard's telling the truth. He covered a bunch of really personal things in the show. So he outed himself, too. Why would he tell such a dramatic story just to lie about one person. Nah, I think he's an amazing and strong story teller.
UNPOPULAR OPINION about the ending part: I think he put the trial part to end the show. Let's be honest everyone or at least most viewers probably would like to see "the villain" facing actual consequences. Since the show is fiction I don't see any issues with him possibly altering the actual events that took place. Because, it not only gives the show a solid ending but also portrays Martha in the best light possible since she apologizes and shows regret. This is also another part of the show where he did not just made Martha the villain while he could've made her THE villain really easily. MY SECOND OPINION about the show is the "True story" part. Since in the final credits they said that the show is inspired by NOT the actual events but from Richard's play "Baby Reindeer", I don't really think there will be a lawsuit. But, even if it was directly inspired by real life events COME ON this is a Netflix series of course they are going to change certain parts. Also everyone complaining how it's not a 100% true and how much the Martha character looks and acts like real life Martha. PLEASEE 🙄 You can't agree with both of those it's not adding up.
I keep saying that even people's social media statuses are not 100% true. You can't expect a show to completely reflect what happened unless it was filmed live.
Also it’s the British justice system we’re talking about. There are men here who don’t go to prison for stalking never mind a woman😂. That threatening voicemail was probably crafted to let them wrap up the story in a nice way
I find it remarkable that people think Martha is the real villain! She has made his life hard, very hard at times, she even assaulted him at one point, but Darian did so, so much worse.
She also has form--------A WOMAN who waged a campaign against Donald Dewar is now stalking MP's wife Laura Wray. Solicitor Mrs Wray has become the target of Fiona Muir, whom she sacked from a trainee post at her firm, McPhail Lawrence Partnership, in 1997. Since she was dismissed, she has contacted Mrs Wray's office with a series of threatening phone calls and even turned up at her house on one occasion. Mrs Wray, wife of Glasgow Baillieston MP Jimmy Wray and the mother of an 18-month-old son, was so worried by Muir's behaviour she issued her staff with panic alarms. She is now considering making an official complaint to police, after Muir renewed her campaign last week. It's also understood that Muir has developed a friendship with Mr Wray's ex-wife Catherine, with whom he fought a bitter divorce battle.
Have you seen the interview with Fiona? A more obvious liar is hard to find. I bet they even downplayed her a bit... Darian is a awful man but Martha is like a cancer that refuse to heal.
I 100% love the way that you pointed out Darrian as the main villain. I’ve been preaching this since watching the show and you’ve explained exactly what i’ve been trying to say perfectly. can’t wait for you to post more.
Monkey see monkey do is a separate piece he wrote and performed focused on the grooming etc he went through, he did baby reindeer around 5 years ago at Edinburgh festival and then it was in London and I think Broadway as well.
She didn't deny any of the accusations made by Morgan. Watch it again. She only ever denied sending specific anounts of email etc. If she actually sent 40,999 emails or 41,001 emails, she wouldn't be lying if she said she didn't send 41,000 emails, which is what she claimed.
agreed. what stuck out of me was when she said ' i never SA'd him in a canal'. why specify the canal, she may have done it just not in that place, technically she woudnt be lying. and in the stage show the assault takes place in the bar. if you listen carefully she doesnt deny as much as some people seem to think.
It caught me by surprise when you said at the end there that this is your first video! very well done, well edited, written and well narrated. Leaving a comment and subscribing for support and algorithm boost :) Keep it up!
I heard a theory on reddit that the end of the show where Richard goes back to Darrien is trying to signify that real life Darrien might have actuslly helped make this netflix show
He says "when people ask me how I got into comedy, I think of this moment" on the scene with the old guy dancing. That for me was a light bulb moment. It implies old guy opened doors for him. I'm going to have to go have a nosey at the reddit thing.
Can't wait to see more of your videos, a great job! The comments have made me see many different points to this story and made me realise we can all perceive things differently as we see things from a different angle. Who are we to say somebody's opinion is right or wrong? Thanks for creating this video summarising some of the key points and opening the door for some good discussions. Keep it going!
Also, I believe Fiona wholeheartedly. Richard Gadd is such a despicable person; he only got one thing correct: his desire for fame and fortune at any cost.
Very well edited and narrated video, although I did notice that the archive footage you used was a lot quieter than the rest of the video. Apart from that though great video, keep it up, i was surprised to hear this was your first
Thank you for the insightful breakdown on this program. With 3 mid 30s children Ive been feeling left out of conversation in the last month. It was constant baby reindeer blah blah blah. I eventually suffered through the series just to be included in conversations.
Stalking is a serious crime, the psychological harm and emotional distress along with the profound trauma it causes the victims of stalkers is why the pathological bullying abusive stalkers should be given longer prison sentences, it is severe abuse and the amount of people feeling sorry for her is a disgrace, Stop enabling abusers it's not ok
@@paula622 This is the stuff that's written all over the internet. Did you not watch the show? He described it in a nuanced way and said it wasn't good versus bad. He also contributed. I have been stalked by someone who was very ill, a woman. Yes it was scary and I was worried. But I also knew how ill she was and feel so much empathy for her. They don't just lock everyone up who is ill with obsessive personalities. They would have to really establish there was intent to harm. Gadd himself said he felt empathy for her.
@@thinac It was ten years ago. And you don't know if there was any assault. She sent him emails and became obsessed with him. They do not simply lock people up.
@@thinacGadd has said she never met Teri his girlfriend, so it's impossible that she could have attacked her and torn the hair from her head, kinda made me think there more no attack on him either.
that's such a silly comment. he said "characters" and didn't mention their size or the way they look at all, but was probably referring to the mannerisms, speech patterns and such, which the actress does portray in a way that strongly resembles the real life woman.
My girlfriend and me enjoyed this video, pretty good for your first time. Just fyi the audio was kind of low idk if it was an editing problem or the master volume, but even the clips are low. 👍
It really was a masterpiece. I rarely can finish an episode of anything as I have the attention span of a ferret, but this I watched episode after episode one weekend. Brilliant! The portrayal of Martha was brilliant. She wasn’t afraid of being raw and downright unhinged. I really believed her acting. Richard acted this all out flawlessly and realistic.
Great job! Your final comments (beginning 15:46, The Self Destruction of Richard Gad about RG actually leads me to believe he has BPD ("The extreme lengths he went to keep toxic people in his lives.") You present her mental instability in a more compassionate way with the words you use whereas with RG you use much stronger language. It's like, she couldn't help it so we will give her grace but there is no grace given RG for his instability instead it sounds more judgmental. I hope you will relisten to it. I do believe that you tried very hard to be even handed but repeatedly you point out that RG was making these choices and it sounds a bit like he deserved it. Anyway, I just wanted to bring your awareness to it because I do believe RG has spent many years uncovering his traumas and working through them. In the show he takes responsibility for his part in it, leading her on from time to time, etc. She however denies everything at every opportunity to she gets. He's become a more whole person whereas she does not. Anyway, I just wanted to share my thoughts on that last iceberg point as I am sure you are unaware of how it comes across. Great job with the video, I enjoyed it and you have a great tone. Keep it up!
after watching the Piers Morgan interview I'm 100% sure she actually did those things. she even went out of her way to call the real life Terri a man. you can tell she's still bitter
What’s weird about that is four fake FB accounts for 46 messages, yet the rest of the numbers seem crazy ridiculous, and buddy better have kept them all if they were actually real
It was a nice show really, whatever everything in it was true or if bits and pieces were fictional still it feels like a raw retelling of someones experiences. I can relate to both Donny and Martha here, specifically i spent my uni years being around people that werent really interested in me but were keeping me around because they had something to gain from me, it's a sad realisation that what most people have seen in me is only an easy way to pass their exams and that my self respect was so low that i settled for that. I am still working on that, it is kinda like one step forward two steps back.
To my knowledge nobody had found out Martha’s identity as a result of this show airing. Her real life counterpart showed up herself and inserted herself back into his life through this piers Morgan stuff and suing. It fits her style perfectly that being to always stay dangerous to Richard and perpetually intertwined. One upping her last performance and creating more flying monkeys to aid her in casting doubt and judgment into Richard. It makes you really feel for the guy even more even if her sloppy actions now are giving him near perfect vindication. I say near perfect but there are quite a few people out there treating him horribly just for the fact that this manipulator has sown seeds of doubt as she always does. Of course we’d love to see justice regarding darien but who knows if that will materialize while people are seemingly still afraid of him and what he could do. I really admire Richard for not only writing himself so flawed but also being firm in his belief that he is not to blame for what has happened to him. Let him get it all out so to speak and maintain that boundary he’ll always need it.
how is Richard’s self destructive tendencies the lowest tier? as someone who’s intimately familiar with it i picked it up before the end of the first episode 😢
I’m struggling to know what to believe after the Piers interview. Like I don’t believe she is honest at all, but it made me question the things Richard Gadd has said ??
Just curious, what things? Some things will have have been a bit changed as sometimes it's impossible to get everything 100% correct. People can also interpret things in different ways, and memory is malleable.
@@janinebasil yeah I agree. I don’t know - for one thing, I don’t understand why he would lie about stalking her back (when he followed her to her Appartment and she caught him) but then why would she say that never happened?
Richard has said that the show is not a one for one accounting of events. Instead, he's referred to it as an "emotional truth." It's not a true crime documentary, and he didn't want it to be. Richard likely never followed her to her house, just as I'm sure a lot of what was shown in the show did not play out exactly how it did in real life, intentionally so. Instead of being a true event, what that scene is doing is expressing his feelings on his returned obsession with her. Later in the series, Richard talks about how he struggled with his own obsessive thoughts of her and how he had, in a way, become like her. The scene at the comedy club, where she refutes his claims of her being a stalker and states that HE was the one that followed HER home, that line hits you in the gut because. . .she has a point. Adding the plot point of him following her home is an allegory for how he emotionally feels in the situation, and is a succinct and impactful way of showing you how he dealt with his own complex feelings of confusion and culpability. Richard was also intrigued by her and made many mistakes and wrong choices that he openly admits to feeding the situation, and it is expressed in the show that he did on some level like her admiration. He may not have physically followed her in real life, but he emotionally did, and he had to reckon himself to the part that he played in everything.
@@sunsetphoenix900 that’s such a good outlook! Yeah, it’s so hard when you don’t know what’s true and what’s false - it makes me feel even worse for Martha because like you said about his complexed feelings of liking her attention, he must’ve led her on and so you can somewhat understand why she had this warped perception of how he liked her back. But also I struggle to believe Martha in the Piers interview when she said she didn’t love him? Surely that was a lie? (Not that she owes it to anyone to admit everything she felt)
@jessicarobinson8801 I have sympathy for Martha too, and Richard does as well. I think she's an unwell person, and I think Richard gave her inches, which she took for miles. She may not have loved him in a true sense of the word, but she was definitely infatuated to have sent the sheer number of emails and messages. Netflix has verified those numbers, and no person who is mentally well does that. I, of course, haven't personally read or listened to them, but I have a hard time believing that the feelings she expresses in them are purely platonic, lol
Really took guts for richard not to shy away from the mistakes he made and to tell an honest story about trauma. Every time I found myself infuriated at Martha, donny brought me back to seeing a broken person that just needs help at the end of the day. Darrien tho.. fuck that guy for real
I feel sorry for Fiona, even though she really is like that. She shouldn't have been known to the world, her life is ruined, except for two people who conspired to win they way to the court. No matter which side wins He can divide it in half. Netflix may be a victim of these two people. Since both their lives are in the public light now. They have nothing to lose. My thoughts may be too imaginative. Think about it, there's something strange about the two of them.
"im not going to name her" continues to plaster her name on the screen via articles. i understand the respect aspect but she did it to herself, name and shame all the way lmao
you said you don’t want to share the rl Martha’s name, yet you show her face AND an article where her full legal name is mentioned multiple times… what use is censoring her name in Morgan’s show alone then? It’s probably a mistake, but yeah
Thank you guys so much for the positive feedback!
Lets see if we can hit 1k subs 🙌
The problem is the show said THIS IS A TRUE STORY not based on and there’s a huge difference, and you shouldn’t casually say based on when thats not what was shown
I don't think the whole drink scene at the end is supposed to show that he's turning into a stalker, I think it's him realizing that none of what happened to him was earned. Just because you reach out and show sympathy to someone, doesn't mean you invited them to be obsessed with you or find you as their only source of validation.
Exactly! It's a moment when he stops blaming himself for what Martha did
woah i love this take, it’s saying that you really couldn’t have done anything. it’s not your fault because it all depends on what the person sitting in the chair chooses to do
I see it as way that he’s in her shoes now and felt it
i think it shows how people can take advantage of your vulnerability & instinct to be empathetic. it is human nature to sympathise with other human beings, that’s what this show is all about: how kindness can be bastardised & manipulated.
I believe Richard 100% but I just find it so weird how much hate Fiona is getting and everyone’s focusing on her but no one’s choosing to focus on the man that literally raped and drugged him
I’m not 100% but I think people accused the wrong guy and richard told people to stop speculating. Fiona seemed ready to give her two cents immediately
That's what I'm so confused about like that part was normal it something
That's because his identity is not yet "discovered" even if it was it'd be alleged unless Richard or that person confirms it. The difference is Fiona had been discovered and it was all alleged until she came on the show confirming she was the stalker Richard was talking about. Fiona does deserve hate tbh but not to the extent of death threats... Also she brought this upon herself by FIRST mentally assaulting, Richard and his loved ones for years. THEN by coming on the show. He is allowed to talk about his own trauma and he did not need to cover his stalkers identity not even one bit. This woman brought it upon herself by stalking him for years. PERIOD
@@caro31099 we dont even know its the wrong person, Gadd would defend the guy till death anyway. Going back and allowing from what i can tell Gary Reich to continue his streak against other men is as evil. I have my doubts the rape scene happened how he made it out to be, he literally went for dicks after when he was a straight man. Now hes a gay man. Thats a bit weird to me.
i agree with you, however its because fiona was easy to find, she left a public paper trail on twitter etc.
Netflix can release utter garbage then release a wonderfully written and acted show like Baby Raindeer. Netflix is an enigma
I always thought the look at the end was signifying to him that all he did was offer a cup of tea to someone who looked down. Like he didn’t bring it upon himself
And not reporting when she assaulted his trans girl cuz he was embarrassed
Ya. It shows that what he did with her (letting her have the cup of tea on the house) was something a lot of people would do and it doesn’t have to mean anything. It helps him realize that him offering her a cup of tea doesn’t mean he did anything wrong.
That's really beautiful. Thank you
Because of baby reindeer, it helped me identify what actually happened and why i was doing this really self-destructive behavior. Made me realize i was groomed and assaulted repeatedly and i kept crawling back because my Immediate family wanted nothing to do with me. I was in that cycle for 15 years, Im 18 almost 19 now and feel like i finally have my hands on my own steering wheel because of this show.
I know I'm just a stranger on the internet but I'm a social worker irl. I'm so glad you've been able to identify what was happening to you. Do you have a support system at home?
@@madz2013 i do now because of my fiance, cut my family off recently
Don’t marry the first man who is decent to you. It’s ok if you need therapy for many years. Signed, a mid. 30s survivor.
Hi stranger, I’m finishing my degree in clinical counseling and I wanted to share this with you and I hope it can help you in your healing ❤️ When we are in danger we fall into states of defense. Most people know fight flight and freeze, but there is also fawn. Fawn is a trauma response where the survivor attempts to appease the abuser for a subconscious sense of protection. Our brain says, “this threat has some sort of power over me so if I do what they want and please them it will keep me safe.” That could’ve been why you kept going back - your subconscious was trying to protect you. I know it’s difficult to grasp, but I want to reiterate it is NOT your fault. It was never your fault. Additionally from what you were saying you were so young. Children especially fall into fawn because they haven’t yet learned what is a person of authority who can keep them safe. With your family turning their back on you, I’m sure it didn’t feel like they were people who could take care of you so it made this abuser see you as a good target for manipulation. That was their actions, not yours. My heart breaks for you and I am so so sorry. I can’t even imagine the pain that you have felt. I’m so happy to hear you are starting to gain some compassion for yourself and enter a path of healing and at the same time that path is not linear and I’m sure you’ve had moments where you feel right back at square one with your healing. With that being said, I hope this information will be something you can think back on to remind you that this was not your fault. I also hope you never discredit your resilience and remember that while the healing process will not be linear, you have already come so far by recognizing what you mentioned in this comment. Remember to give yourself credit where it is due. Healing does not move backwards. I’m so sorry that your family isn’t in your corner, but there are so so many people who see you and will be in your corner. I hope you find your way to them and they find your way to you ❤️
What would this cycle be called? I feel like i went through something like Donny after his traumatic experiences.
One of the things I loved about the show was that he didn't try to make himself look like a white knight. He was very open about the things he did wrong as well, he's not a complete victim. The ending to me is him understanding how Martha got to that place. He spent time trying to find meaning to her actions and I believe the ending was him getting that. As for the Piers Morgan interview...it was incredibly contradictory. She would deny then admit to some, say she didn't know where he lived but then admit to sending him a letter. It just showed how much of a liar she is and while it might not be exactly as the show says there seems to be some truth there. Plus she even mentioned she changed her last name which after searching her original name comes up with a stalking case she was involved in.
She only revealed her identity and went on the show to keep it going
i always thought him getting the drink at the end was trying to tell us that its still good to show kindness like donny did in the begginning with the tea, and that it really wasnt his fault
No way there’s already an ice berg
There's an iceberg as you're watch the show. People just ain't clicking on and/or reading between the lines.
Parts of the show were embellished and others simply didn't happen. Gadd has all but said this. She was never incarcerated. Some of these things are fairly easily checked.
I don’t understand why people sympathize with “Martha” when she literally sexually assaulted him…
I 100% believe Richard's telling the truth. He covered a bunch of really personal things in the show. So he outed himself, too. Why would he tell such a dramatic story just to lie about one person. Nah, I think he's an amazing and strong story teller.
UNPOPULAR OPINION about the ending part:
I think he put the trial part to end the show. Let's be honest everyone or at least most viewers probably would like to see "the villain" facing actual consequences. Since the show is fiction I don't see any issues with him possibly altering the actual events that took place. Because, it not only gives the show a solid ending but also portrays Martha in the best light possible since she apologizes and shows regret. This is also another part of the show where he did not just made Martha the villain while he could've made her THE villain really easily.
MY SECOND OPINION about the show is the "True story" part. Since in the final credits they said that the show is inspired by NOT the actual events but from Richard's play "Baby Reindeer", I don't really think there will be a lawsuit. But, even if it was directly inspired by real life events COME ON this is a Netflix series of course they are going to change certain parts. Also everyone complaining how it's not a 100% true and how much the Martha character looks and acts like real life Martha. PLEASEE 🙄 You can't agree with both of those it's not adding up.
Agree I struggle to understand how people don’t get this
Yes I agree. I dont know if sh went to jail or not. It also could have been a sort of closure for him.
@@EmmaRosesConcertClips Exactly, closure. Well said
I keep saying that even people's social media statuses are not 100% true. You can't expect a show to completely reflect what happened unless it was filmed live.
Also it’s the British justice system we’re talking about. There are men here who don’t go to prison for stalking never mind a woman😂. That threatening voicemail was probably crafted to let them wrap up the story in a nice way
I find it remarkable that people think Martha is the real villain! She has made his life hard, very hard at times, she even assaulted him at one point, but Darian did so, so much worse.
they are both awful people.
She also has form--------A WOMAN who waged a campaign against Donald Dewar is now stalking MP's wife Laura Wray.
Solicitor Mrs Wray has become the target of Fiona Muir, whom she sacked from a trainee post at her firm, McPhail Lawrence Partnership, in 1997.
Since she was dismissed, she has contacted Mrs Wray's office with a series of threatening phone calls and even turned up at her house on one occasion.
Mrs Wray, wife of Glasgow Baillieston MP Jimmy Wray and the mother of an 18-month-old son, was so worried by Muir's behaviour she issued her staff with panic alarms.
She is now considering making an official complaint to police, after Muir renewed her campaign last week.
It's also understood that Muir has developed a friendship with Mr Wray's ex-wife Catherine, with whom he fought a bitter divorce battle.
Just because Darrin was "worse" doesn't mean she's not getting what she deserves.
Have you seen the interview with Fiona? A more obvious liar is hard to find. I bet they even downplayed her a bit... Darian is a awful man but Martha is like a cancer that refuse to heal.
She sexually assaulted* that man btw. Let's not leave that part out.
I 100% love the way that you pointed out Darrian as the main villain. I’ve been preaching this since watching the show and you’ve explained exactly what i’ve been trying to say perfectly. can’t wait for you to post more.
Monkey see monkey do is a separate piece he wrote and performed focused on the grooming etc he went through, he did baby reindeer around 5 years ago at Edinburgh festival and then it was in London and I think Broadway as well.
She didn't deny any of the accusations made by Morgan. Watch it again. She only ever denied sending specific anounts of email etc.
If she actually sent 40,999 emails or 41,001 emails, she wouldn't be lying if she said she didn't send 41,000 emails, which is what she claimed.
agreed. what stuck out of me was when she said ' i never SA'd him in a canal'. why specify the canal, she may have done it just not in that place, technically she woudnt be lying. and in the stage show the assault takes place in the bar. if you listen carefully she doesnt deny as much as some people seem to think.
It caught me by surprise when you said at the end there that this is your first video! very well done, well edited, written and well narrated. Leaving a comment and subscribing for support and algorithm boost :) Keep it up!
Thanks, im happy you enjoyed the content!
I heard a theory on reddit that the end of the show where Richard goes back to Darrien is trying to signify that real life Darrien might have actuslly helped make this netflix show
He says "when people ask me how I got into comedy, I think of this moment" on the scene with the old guy dancing. That for me was a light bulb moment. It implies old guy opened doors for him. I'm going to have to go have a nosey at the reddit thing.
Can't wait to see more of your videos, a great job!
The comments have made me see many different points to this story and made me realise we can all perceive things differently as we see things from a different angle. Who are we to say somebody's opinion is right or wrong?
Thanks for creating this video summarising some of the key points and opening the door for some good discussions. Keep it going!
Didn’t realise this was your first video! Really enjoyed it! Keep at it 😊
Love the breakdown! Wish it was longer tho.
I’ll make a longer one next time!
@@robbo473 Can't wait!
Wow, how on earth do you not have like over a mil? Editing quality is incredible and talking skills are absolutely on point!! Keep up the content bro.
Hopefully one day🤞 thanks so much!
@@robbo473 No problem bro, my friend has 32k subs and edits his vids, I can get you to talk to him, he'll give you some amazing tips!
At least leave in the punchline of his real comedy..
"...im joking im joking...she was 3 months old"
Awesome video dude! Im lookin forward to more!
very cool video loved your intro and saw the subcribers,, that work to draw me in needs more love
Great first video man, looking forward to seeing more 🎉
great video, can't wait to see more from you
What a great banger for your first video m8
Amazing first video, be proud of what you’ve accomplished here!
Thanks!
This is fantastic! Please make more videos!! :))
Ok, the editing on this video only 30 seconds in is fantastic! Can’t believe you don’t have more subs. Instantly subbed.
Also, I believe Fiona wholeheartedly. Richard Gadd is such a despicable person; he only got one thing correct: his desire for fame and fortune at any cost.
Thank you!!
Agree!
@@sorormimm493 No.
Very well edited and narrated video, although I did notice that the archive footage you used was a lot quieter than the rest of the video. Apart from that though great video, keep it up, i was surprised to hear this was your first
Appreciate the feedback :)
Nice video man, keep it up!
the editing is great bro
Good job on this video can’t believe it’s your first one. Really enjoyed it.
In going debate? U don’t need to be Sherlock to see that real life Martha is admitting literally everything in this interview 😅
Dude, this was an amazing video. Carry On, Subscribing.
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Thank you for the insightful breakdown on this program.
With 3 mid 30s children Ive been feeling left out of conversation in the last month. It was constant baby reindeer blah blah blah. I eventually suffered through the series just to be included in conversations.
well done for your first vid was edited well and all around good iceberge vid;).
I'm glad you have some empathy for *Martha* I actually think it's totally unfair to her, there are so many people hating on or mocking her.
Well she should be in jail for assault if all is true
Stalking is a serious crime, the psychological harm and emotional distress along with the profound trauma it causes the victims of stalkers is why the pathological bullying abusive stalkers should be given longer prison sentences, it is severe abuse and the amount of people feeling sorry for her is a disgrace,
Stop enabling abusers it's not ok
@@paula622 This is the stuff that's written all over the internet. Did you not watch the show? He described it in a nuanced way and said it wasn't good versus bad. He also contributed.
I have been stalked by someone who was very ill, a woman. Yes it was scary and I was worried. But I also knew how ill she was and feel so much empathy for her. They don't just lock everyone up who is ill with obsessive personalities. They would have to really establish there was intent to harm. Gadd himself said he felt empathy for her.
@@thinac It was ten years ago. And you don't know if there was any assault. She sent him emails and became obsessed with him. They do not simply lock people up.
@@thinacGadd has said she never met Teri his girlfriend, so it's impossible that she could have attacked her and torn the hair from her head, kinda made me think there more no attack on him either.
for ur first video this is well done damn
Great iceberg! I really enjoyed it.
Damn this video is better than most of the crappy commentary videos ppl make about this show!
Thank you!!
Just a quick suggestion. PLEASE fix your audio mixing. The volume is very low and inconsistent. Other than that, great video👍🏽
saying the real life Martha and her actress have an “uncanny resemblance” because they’re both fat is really funny
that's such a silly comment. he said "characters" and didn't mention their size or the way they look at all, but was probably referring to the mannerisms, speech patterns and such, which the actress does portray in a way that strongly resembles the real life woman.
It's definitely the mannerisms and speech patterns.
You can hate on and feel bad for someone at the same time, Martha proves it.
New sub here! Keep up the good work!
if this your first vedio i cant wait to see what whould you do next
omg this video is so underrated
Thank you! :)
The fact I actually laughed at all the comedy performance scenes, My scene of humor is BROKENNNN
Loved the video!
fantastic video! like always! loved everything about it, you are a great story teller!!! was just wondering what the first song is called
The song is called "I started a joke" by the Bee Gees!
My girlfriend and me enjoyed this video, pretty good for your first time. Just fyi the audio was kind of low idk if it was an editing problem or the master volume, but even the clips are low. 👍
i didnt even watch yet but i love the effort already and liking and comment to boost the algo
Appreciation it 🙌
Is no-one going to say how much Robbo sounds like Richard G.?
Great video.
It really was a masterpiece. I rarely can finish an episode of anything as I have the attention span of a ferret, but this I watched episode after episode one weekend. Brilliant! The portrayal of Martha was brilliant. She wasn’t afraid of being raw and downright unhinged. I really believed her acting. Richard acted this all out flawlessly and realistic.
Great video!
I love how he put so much effort in to not say her real identity just to show it at the top at 10:08
One piece mentioned 🔥🔥
“I’m a victim like johnny depp” well… I have some news for you
Great job!
Your final comments (beginning 15:46, The Self Destruction of Richard Gad about RG actually leads me to believe he has BPD ("The extreme lengths he went to keep toxic people in his lives.") You present her mental instability in a more compassionate way with the words you use whereas with RG you use much stronger language. It's like, she couldn't help it so we will give her grace but there is no grace given RG for his instability instead it sounds more judgmental. I hope you will relisten to it. I do believe that you tried very hard to be even handed but repeatedly you point out that RG was making these choices and it sounds a bit like he deserved it.
Anyway, I just wanted to bring your awareness to it because I do believe RG has spent many years uncovering his traumas and working through them. In the show he takes responsibility for his part in it, leading her on from time to time, etc. She however denies everything at every opportunity to she gets. He's become a more whole person whereas she does not. Anyway, I just wanted to share my thoughts on that last iceberg point as I am sure you are unaware of how it comes across. Great job with the video, I enjoyed it and you have a great tone.
Keep it up!
after watching the Piers Morgan interview I'm 100% sure she actually did those things. she even went out of her way to call the real life Terri a man. you can tell she's still bitter
Well “she” is soo..
@@Wheresmyglockbro did you even watch the show? the protagonist/creator supports trans ppl and that's your takeaway?
nice video, but you really need to work on the sound mixing, it is very silent overall and some things are particulary silent
Thanks for making this video 🤟
Thanks for watching it 🙌
I recommend the videos that explain it all by a man called HG Tudor Knowing the Narcissist: Ultra ” He has a channel here on CZcams.
What’s weird about that is four fake FB accounts for 46 messages, yet the rest of the numbers seem crazy ridiculous, and buddy better have kept them all if they were actually real
It was a nice show really, whatever everything in it was true or if bits and pieces were fictional still it feels like a raw retelling of someones experiences.
I can relate to both Donny and Martha here, specifically i spent my uni years being around people that werent really interested in me but were keeping me around because they had something to gain from me, it's a sad realisation that what most people have seen in me is only an easy way to pass their exams and that my self respect was so low that i settled for that.
I am still working on that, it is kinda like one step forward two steps back.
To my knowledge nobody had found out Martha’s identity as a result of this show airing. Her real life counterpart showed up herself and inserted herself back into his life through this piers Morgan stuff and suing. It fits her style perfectly that being to always stay dangerous to Richard and perpetually intertwined. One upping her last performance and creating more flying monkeys to aid her in casting doubt and judgment into Richard. It makes you really feel for the guy even more even if her sloppy actions now are giving him near perfect vindication. I say near perfect but there are quite a few people out there treating him horribly just for the fact that this manipulator has sown seeds of doubt as she always does. Of course we’d love to see justice regarding darien but who knows if that will materialize while people are seemingly still afraid of him and what he could do. I really admire Richard for not only writing himself so flawed but also being firm in his belief that he is not to blame for what has happened to him. Let him get it all out so to speak and maintain that boundary he’ll always need it.
how is Richard’s self destructive tendencies the lowest tier? as someone who’s intimately familiar with it i picked it up before the end of the first episode 😢
Appreciated you left her real name out, but you can see at it one point in the video where you show the news article
I started a joke was perfect for the soundtrack
Video is amazing but i had to watch on full maxed out volume and still could barely hear it 😅
I’ll have this issue fixed in the next video :)
I’m struggling to know what to believe after the Piers interview. Like I don’t believe she is honest at all, but it made me question the things Richard Gadd has said ??
Just curious, what things? Some things will have have been a bit changed as sometimes it's impossible to get everything 100% correct. People can also interpret things in different ways, and memory is malleable.
@@janinebasil yeah I agree. I don’t know - for one thing, I don’t understand why he would lie about stalking her back (when he followed her to her Appartment and she caught him) but then why would she say that never happened?
Richard has said that the show is not a one for one accounting of events. Instead, he's referred to it as an "emotional truth." It's not a true crime documentary, and he didn't want it to be. Richard likely never followed her to her house, just as I'm sure a lot of what was shown in the show did not play out exactly how it did in real life, intentionally so. Instead of being a true event, what that scene is doing is expressing his feelings on his returned obsession with her. Later in the series, Richard talks about how he struggled with his own obsessive thoughts of her and how he had, in a way, become like her. The scene at the comedy club, where she refutes his claims of her being a stalker and states that HE was the one that followed HER home, that line hits you in the gut because. . .she has a point. Adding the plot point of him following her home is an allegory for how he emotionally feels in the situation, and is a succinct and impactful way of showing you how he dealt with his own complex feelings of confusion and culpability. Richard was also intrigued by her and made many mistakes and wrong choices that he openly admits to feeding the situation, and it is expressed in the show that he did on some level like her admiration. He may not have physically followed her in real life, but he emotionally did, and he had to reckon himself to the part that he played in everything.
@@sunsetphoenix900 that’s such a good outlook! Yeah, it’s so hard when you don’t know what’s true and what’s false - it makes me feel even worse for Martha because like you said about his complexed feelings of liking her attention, he must’ve led her on and so you can somewhat understand why she had this warped perception of how he liked her back.
But also I struggle to believe Martha in the Piers interview when she said she didn’t love him? Surely that was a lie? (Not that she owes it to anyone to admit everything she felt)
@jessicarobinson8801 I have sympathy for Martha too, and Richard does as well. I think she's an unwell person, and I think Richard gave her inches, which she took for miles. She may not have loved him in a true sense of the word, but she was definitely infatuated to have sent the sheer number of emails and messages. Netflix has verified those numbers, and no person who is mentally well does that. I, of course, haven't personally read or listened to them, but I have a hard time believing that the feelings she expresses in them are purely platonic, lol
This guy should have at least 50K subscribers... 👍 and subscribe!
Maybe one day!
this reminds me of a British version of Kings Misery
Really took guts for richard not to shy away from the mistakes he made and to tell an honest story about trauma. Every time I found myself infuriated at Martha, donny brought me back to seeing a broken person that just needs help at the end of the day. Darrien tho.. fuck that guy for real
good video, your audio is too quiet though
Fiona didn't do herself any favors with the P.M. interview
It's also good because it's a British show...
very low volume. set your audio peak level at between -12 to -6dB in your editing software.
I thought it was Richards voice...
Please put the volume up, thanks
Best Netflix series since the end of the f*ing world
I watched the show and hated him. She was crazy, but he fed into it and gave her hope then got mad at it. It was añl his fault tbh.
volume settings so low
Will make sure to turn it up next time 👍
intro ate so hard
15:12 bro is that actually her real nose 😭😭😭
A lit early aint it i mean there could be more drama yeah?
Hardest part of this video was him doing comedy
It was the hardest part of editing too 😂
why on earth are captions not available 💔
I’ll have them added next time :)
WHY IS THE AUDIO SO LOW
Why is there no vieo footage of her heckling him?
There is I can't remember the name of it but it's on CZcams
There is
fix volume fam
having difficulty understanding/hearing the audio played that isn't the narrator. Needs a better balance
I feel sorry for Fiona, even though she really is like that. She shouldn't have been known to the world, her life is ruined, except for two people who conspired to win they way to the court. No matter which side wins He can divide it in half. Netflix may be a victim of these two people. Since both their lives are in the public light now. They have nothing to lose. My thoughts may be too imaginative. Think about it, there's something strange about the two of them.
"im not going to name her" continues to plaster her name on the screen via articles. i understand the respect aspect but she did it to herself, name and shame all the way lmao
you said you don’t want to share the rl Martha’s name, yet you show her face AND an article where her full legal name is mentioned multiple times… what use is censoring her name in Morgan’s show alone then? It’s probably a mistake, but yeah
something about him makes me feel icky and I'm usually right about these things so I'm gonna wait a couple of years
lmao
Same.
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