The Super Frustrating Steps to Meet a Top Courtesan in Edo Japan
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00:00 How Much Money You Got? It Ain’t Enough
02:09 Most Frustrating First Date
07:50 Dating a Courtesan
09:31 Punishment for Cheaters
10:28 Just the Tip
11:52 Gotta Collect Them All, the Money
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Not at all, no. I'd just go to a cheap one lol.
@Linfamy - Please do a video on the history of Kawakami Gensai that inspired Rurouni Kenshin! 🙏
I need to learn more about the time traveling badass Samurai.
I can see how the courtship would build anticipation and make the payoff more rewarding. If you're an aristocrat, you probably expect the most refined version of any experience, and you don't get that by hiring a random drug addict to service you in an alleyway.
you should really tell us where you get your info in the description
> clients pay hand over fist for a *chance* to meet a girl
> when they meet her she might refuse if the client didnt pay enough
> at any point, a whale might come by and totally own you
> and by the time you have reached platinum rank, you are so deeply invested that you cannot simply drop the game
Im starting to think that gacha actually has quite deep cultural roots
😂😂😂 gacha and video girls/boys
it is wath it is
Well it sounds like gotcha for a reason
@@exotixzamateurva8957 lmao only for the weak willed that does not know how to spend responsibly and not doing research on which gacha game is budget friendly.
Take me for example.
Only 2% of my monthly income go to 1 of my 3 gacha games.
2 of them I play for free and has been playing for 3 years.
So no gacha isnt always about making you pay shit ton of money, you might be the issue of ur own downfall
@@DomonkasshuSD 😭
"The strictest rules are the unwritten ones."
As someone who's autistic, I felt that in my soul.
Agreed
ditto
It's like everyone else was born knowing
YES
And it hurts more knowing they change over time...
"just another day at the orifice" is absolute S Tier writing. Love your work.
I choked on my coffee when I heard that one. Lords alive.
And that Gangsta's Paradise parody 😂😂
His wordplay is like no other!
Need a t shirt out of it
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Hi. Your resident translator/enjoyer of Classical Japanese literature here to point out that the custom of men leaving their lovers before sunrise had been a staple of Japanese romances for centuries by the Edo Period, and not only was a dude hanging around annoying for workers from a workload perspective, it was just extremely unromantic and lacking in any social grace or finer feeling.
Japan was so progressive that men had to do the walk of shame before edo lol
@@R.P.-hw2rq for about 5 seconds I thought ‘server’ was code for courtesan lmao
@@R.P.-hw2rq This is why it's good to not have tipping, people camping is the company's problem not yours 😅 (i'm not sure i would have been very polite if someone stayed for an hour after closing lol)
@@DavidCruickshankno tipping wouldn't stop it
@@Infindox It certainly wouldn't stop the act itself but would remove a part of the issue on the server's end as his earnings wouldn't be affected.
"Treat it like your dentist"?
So, with fear, shame, and financial ruinat... Nevermind. Perfect analogy. No notes.
More like applying for a University that only accepts students with straight A+ Grades for the entirety High School life
It's funny how in many cultures third date is also considered a date from which an intimate relationship is possible. First date is to establish a connection in a neutral place, second date is to probably allowing to visit a house but not to stay, and third date is a more close, intimate date. I heard such stories from different countries.
Ive discussed this with my friends before, but easy sex is just not attractive, granted, alot of men wouldnt turn it down, but they also wouldnt return for more or at the very least seek a further relationship with the lady than filling a sexual desire. Moral of the story: waiting can be kinda sexy
@@Lickicker Talked the pants off all my dates, so to each their own
To be honest in the west that was popularized by Sex and the City which is kind of funny when you think about it. There are people who wait untill marriage as an excellent filter among other reasons, other people are sociosexualy unrestricted individuals(scientific term for a hoe) or somewhere in between. The third date thing is not a real thing in practice, like many unfalsifiable things that sociologists write on opinion articles, some people have sex more easily like after 3 dates if they like you, others value it more and so on, it depends on the person but generally speaking someone should not go on a third date expecting sex. lol
@zereimu Yeah, I'm fairly sure my parents waited a few weeks before going to home base, and they are both non religious, working class people, so not very many rules holding them back.
@@Lickickerit's kinda like shaking hands for me. Get it done, see if they're any good, if you're still attracted to them beyond the thought of being attracted to them... The physical shit is fleeting anyway, it's the person you get to know, sex is not a reflection of who someone is but you can be incompatible sexually/physically. Source - banged my husband of 13 years on the first day. Still here together 😊
Lin, you’ve GOT to do a video on the phenomenon of Yokai sightings in Hawaii because of Japanese immigrants. They were known as Mujina but actually resembled the Nopera-bo.
Hmm I'll look into it. Let me know if you have any sources 👍
@@Linfamyaccording to Wikipedia, author Glen Grant catalogued many Hawaiian Obake (term for Japanese ghost) sightings in his book series the Obake files.
@@LinfamyCould what Teo said, be the inspiration for Lilo and Stitch? 🤔
I once found a book in an 'antique' shop on that exact subject! It was full of stories that the author collected from the descendants or first hand from the immigrants themselves. Not sure if I still have it somewhere
Immigrant monsters arent' unique to Hawaii either - there's sightings of Ghillie Du (a Scottish fairy associated w/nature) on golf courses because the Scottish greenskeepers had inadvertently brought them over when first immigrating to the USA and Canada.
"And as they walk through the valley of the shadow of breast they took a look at their lives and realize it's all a mess" Bars🔥🔥🔥
First Weird Al, and now Linfamy took his turn at the parody
Oh mygod, that line was AMAZING. A lot of the clever pun lines are, but that one I fell over laughing and had to rewind it. XD
Thank you linfamy for yet another pleasurable experience
My pleasure, and yours ;)
Pleasurable, hmmm😏
I admit I'm tempted to grab my crochet hooks and get some yarn and make a Courtesan doll :) The chibi style in the videos are so cute.
As a fellow crocheter, you should do it!
My dude, not only was the video exceptionally informative on a subject matter i knew next to nothing about, but holy Christ on a motorbike is your pun capacity near nuclear!
I have not in living memory had to rewind a video so often to actually get the point of what was said due to laughing at the elegance of the multifaceted wordplay.
I am so very glad to have subscribed to your channel and truthfully I have never laughed so much from a video i was learning from.
Deepest regards to your skills at imparting facts and extracting laughs.
Haha thanks for the nice words
Basicaly it was a scam to trick client into spending much more money.
Much like many superfluous services, yes.
It reminds me of Gaoshung asking Rihaku of where Mao Mao is and then taking her and the vergiris house top courtesans to a luxury house just for Jinshi to see her. Yup the theme is Chinese but the air is as close to feudal Japan.
I was thinking the same thing when he mentioned the fancy house.
A top ranking Eunuch working at the Imperial palace directly under the emperor is probably treated with a _little_ bit more respect than regular clients.
It’s Verdigris House.
"Garden of Hedon" is a really good pun!
The Yakuza games and the kyabakura culture is making so much sense now...
Modern day hostesses/hosts aren't that far off from geisha. Including how you're not paying for sex but everyone wants to believe that maybe they'll be the one that they're actually into enough to want to have sex with. I'd argue that hostesses replacing geisha is similar to how geisha themselves replaced oiran.
That Gangster paradise song took me off guard. I had to rewind it and listen to that masterpiece.
we spending all our lives tipping in a brothel paradise
All of this really explains the issues with relationship dynamics in modern Japan.
Not really. These are just girls for hire.
I'm pretty sure that marrying and dating is a different story
@@slothguy5946 I mean, from what I've heard, prostitution is still a really big thing in Japan, to the point girls consider normal for a partner to pay a prostitute. Really crazy and messed up if real
Only got to 6:00 before I finally gave and burst out laughing, this one had so many zingers. Valley of the shadow of breasts will live rent free in my head.
I had to run to the comments looking for other people cracking up at the Gangsta's Paradise parody 😂
Entertaining AND informative
Always the best, you're so creative with your videos and now I can impress people with random facts on the edo period
Exactly lol 😂❤
I really appreciated the "ladies of budget" line. Good stuff
Edit: and so many more. It never ends and I love it
I doubt this happened but now I’m curious. What would happen if a man stopped visiting his courtesan because he got married ? Like the wife isn’t another courtesan so would it count as cheating? Would he get punish? Or would he just be seen as weird for picking his wife over a courtesan? Like him being a good husband to his wife might be a nightmare for his courtesan!
No, it was only cheating if a man picked another prostitute. Many customers were already married.
@@Linfamy Cool! Thanks for telling me! 😁
@@mollyshadows9726 past cultures are often very tolerant of men having mistresses or visiting prostitutes outside
I appreciate how linfamy always has captions on his videos.
;)
I read the title and totally had a different idea of what you meant by 'top" at first.
I love the way you write your scripts! It sounds poetic yet very understandable and funny! Kudos to you!
I laughed way to hard at this. Thank you for sharing.
I never imagined a Japanese brothel would have such complex rules. Im fascinated 😮 again love the humour in the videos
From what I know of Japan, I am completely unsurprised by this. They're masters of complex ritual and highly layered social interactions during which knowing your "place" relative to others is crucial.
@@cosmosveil9355 the little I hear of Japan are enough to crash the imaginary version of Japan I had
🎶Been spending most our lives living in a courtesan's paradise🎶
Heyo linfamy! I'm writing a lil book, it's a romance one and it'll be about a courtesan and her customer. I got inspired by your recent videos and most of the information I'm using will be from your videos so thank you very much for making such informative videos!! Love ya and your vids lots
Good luck with the book!
This video was really good!
I'd really love to see a video of the day of a cortsean, like a daily routine or something.
Joe Schmobunaga is the best name EVER.
Your jokes and delivery are perfect I stg
I have really got to wonder if the 幼馴染 (osananajimi, "childhood friend") trope in anime, manga, and doujinshi is historically related to the 馴染み (najimi) of Edo courtesans or if it's just a coincidence that the two share sexy circumstances.
Great video!
Najimi just means familiarity. Osananajimi means familiar from childhood. It can be used to describe familiarity with things too, not just people
@@jimmyc7269 Right. My thought is about the context as it regards the trope found in media, not the etymology.
This stuff is so interesting. Great video
Glad you like ;)
love your videos man
been watching all your old videos as well
I wait every week and more for your video notification to pop up. Hayaku❤
Glad you like the vids :)
Love your posts. Have a good New Year 💗👏👏
Happy New Year to you too!
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I really appreciate these, um, “social norms” videos where we learn about the strange societal formalities or whatever for lack of a better word. Videos about the way of daily life for peasants/meechants/artisans that are quite different from life in my geographic region (America) and my time period. I always wondered things like “were there banks? What kinds of games did they play in gambling dens? How did brothels work (like in this video)? Basically anything that gives insight to what exactly was it like living in this area at this time. I really appreciate all you do for us Linfamy!
I rushed to your channel after watching a particular Shogun episode 😊 very informational!
Love your videos bro. This is a late Christmas present 🎁
Merry Christmas ;)
@@Linfamy Merry Ol' Saint Lin!
God ur artstyle is so nice! I think these videos are so cool and interesting, you explain things so well!
Dear God this is one of the funniest videos ive ever seen/heard. Subscribed.😂
"Making it rain" using coins might have been painful for everyone.
Merry Christmas Linfamy
Merry Christmas! 🎁🎄
I love your Gangster's Paradise parody... And all your analogies.
We after watching Blue Eye Samurai and limfamy's videos: You know, I'm something of the japanese courtesan expert myself.
The live action bits are perfect~
I love ur work 🎉🎉
The historical camper 😂 IE, a guest at a restaurant that just won’t leave after they’re done eating
Thanks!
We are are so lucky to live in a time, where we can watch CZcams videos of stories told by a Cursed Wakashu Still waiting for your video on Spit Calligraphy!
I really like this art that you make it looks perfect for being an animation history channal
LINFAMY PUNS.......AWESOME!!!!!
Great writing
i really like your videos and often fall asleep to them. Question; what video editor do you use?
It's so interesting to find these videos on old rituals on sex and pleasure and trace them back to the modern day. Like, in some areas (and this seems more prevalent in the states, though I haven't worked outside the americas so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯), you're still expected to tip your escort after you get past a certain price point.
This video got me to subscribe 😂 you’re so funny
Joe Schmobunaga made me laugh so hard I missed like 30 seconds of the video and had to rewind
Funniest man on CZcams another banger 🔥
Nuttin': Nuttin' never changes.
You win. Please pin this comment.
Your jokes resonate so much with me. I think if we knew each other personally you would be a very good friend
the live-action segment was nice suprise
Some of those lines were *chef's kiss*
Edo Japan to modern Atlanta stripclub. Throwing money is stylish
The rhymes and not so hidden but hidden jokes are perfect
Awesome video as always!
I noticed there's a couple of centuries missing in content. Seems like theres a lot on times up until the 1300s and then a lot from the 1600s onwards. What happened during 1400-1500s?? Is there just not enough research available for this period? Im curious
I'm not a historian but from the history books that I've read, the 1400 to 1600 is a period which surprisingly, kind of lacks documentation (primary sources). On the one hand this might be because it was a period of strife and warfare, with all the burning and looting many documents went up in flames. But even the big players (Oda Nobunaga, HIdeyoshi, Tokugawa) have left a surprisingly small number of letters and documents for posterity, and lesser daimyo have left even less, making it hard for researchers to explain some of their actions and thinking. Historians are still not sure why this happened.
There was a civil war.
He just hasn't finished the Kamakura period. It's been years since the Mongol invasions. The craziest shenanigans in history are coming up but at this point I believe in getting TWOW and Silksong before getting there.
@@andreiistrate2214 that's interesting! Thanks for answering!
@@nidohime6233 well yeah, but that was all there was for 200 years? People didn't have lives appart from war? No cultural expression? Even war has a culture around it
Could you do a video about the origin of some festivals in Japan. :)
Merry Christmas Sir Lin :D
Merry Christmas to you! 🎄
If you had a courtesan you weren't allowed to cheat with another, but could you cheat with a non-courtesan (a regular woman)?
Yeah that was mostly fine. Many customers were already married.
@@Linfamy ahh okay, thanks!
Nice subtle reference to Gangsta's Paradise
I hate countries that require mandatory tipping. Pay your own damn staff. Tipping should be for good service, it shouldn't be a substitute for minimum wage.
At what amount of effort does it just become an actual relationship
Yo is there anyway you can do more Yōkai stories, I liked this video a lot but my favorite of your content is when you say the different type of yokai has your the best at describing it and tell what they are like
This episode was really funny 😂❤
Every tume I watch these videos, I just keep thinking to myself, "Bruh, this is more goddamn work than just staying faithful to your wife. Why even bother with this nonsense?"
*Lust*
1) prestige
2) boredom of the family life with someone you, most certainly, had a loveless arranged marriage
3) excitement for something new and fresh.
@@user-od7hh8qg9d Ach, true enough. But as much as I know that my comprehension of their reasoning is hampered by MASSIVE cultural differences, it just seems like too much goddamn trouble. And I'll never understand the conceot that being a simp for a high-class escort conveys status, even if I can understand that this was so in that culture.
@@cjthebeesknees If it was just horniness, they could've just gotten a quickie from a cheaper prostitute. There's definitely mote to it than this
I think you misunderstood slightly the point of this video, these rules and rituals only applies when you want to sleep with high ranking courtesans which usually only celebs and government officials can afford. So for those big shots the more power play they have to go through makes it more exciting and feels more elite.
But for those common men just looking to get laid with common prostitute i think the rules back then are still pretty much the same as today. You get in, you choose your girl, book a room, do the deed, then get out.
Another awesome video! Wishing you a great upcoming New Year!
Happy New Year to you too!
Could you do more videos on the ashikaga shogunate
It’s funny how much this is still like this
Your interpretation of tipping customs in the US today are surprisingly generous. I consider 15% to be standard for normal (good) service, and if a meal at a restaurant had any type of insects, I certainly wouldn't tip at all, let alone 15%.
Sorry the insect thing is a joke 😅
Getting your ego stroked seems like it was more expensive then getting actually stroked.
First class wit, puns and wordplay.
Women of negotionable affection.
Oh, I really like the image of the first cortisone with the blue kimono and the yellow sash! She's pretty °~•.☆.•~°
Thank you!
Nice Gangster's Paradise Reference.
I was watching the Apothecary Diary and clicked on this video out of curiosity
Just watched some episodes of blue eye Samurai and stumble across this video. Interesting.
Watching this as if any day now im going to be transported back in time on the other side of the planet
Who knows?
It is especially interesting that while in Edo period excessive tips were expected, now Japanese don't tip at all
the timing where i became a patron and the title of the video cant be more accurate with my interest lol
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@@Linfamy your presentation style and scripts are always perfect
how could they find enough people with such immense amount of money? only daimyos, high ranking samurais and very wealthy merchants could afford such spending on the regular
I assume the vast majority of bussines went to the discount courtesans
(I like that the video points out it wasn't all billionaires f*cking starlets, it annoys me when videos about prostitution only talk about the $10k/night market)
I legit “lol”d at the Coolio style rhyme
Joe Schmobunaga has now entered my lexicon, thank you for this blessed occasion
Excellent.
What I find the most amazing is that seemingly every golden era no matter the culture or geographical region red light districts are legal, and during economic downturn they are made illegal.
So... A courtesan was a living dating simulator...
Finally you uploaded something😮😂🎉
I love the gangsters paradise reference👍👍
This makes modern day simping look like child's play. Good to see humanity hasn't changed....
Always hilarious.