@@Linfamy Hello Linfamy. Remember/see my comment about horses? Well only nameworthy one I could find in internet was Matsukaze of the samurai Maeda Keiji, could you tell us in future about this pair, or have you already in some video I haven't seen?
@@_Green_Onions_ Thank you so much!! I'll go and Google about all those stuffs... Now that you've told me about the credit thing, I'll be careful all the time. Thanks a lot, once again 🤗
@@_Green_Onions_ The thing is most of my elders(including my parents and elder sibling) except seniors at school tell me to learn about stuffs myself. To experience it myself, that's how I'll grow up better. But of course, it's really great to have someone warn and tell you beforehand about stuffs which actually matter in life. It would be great if you won't mind providing me with more info 😊
@Kakashi Hatake The term "Wakashu" was used primarily during the Edo period. After that it's usage was replaced by the term "shounen." Kind of like how we don't call a toilet a "commode" anymore.
@lamya bouchantouf oh honey its not Islam just the time period. In Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet when Paris went propose, Juliet's dad said she was too young and Paris said "Younger than her are happy mothers still" Juliet was 13...meaning it was common to see pregnant 11 year olds or breastfeeding 12 year olds.
@Baby Hunn That's false information... Aisha got married young, but Muhammad never touched her until she is an adult... He just let her play dolls with her friends, provide living place and meals to her as her husband. This is based on my knowledge and I never knew about him making love with Aisha
Not exactly, the adult men were only allowed to like it under certain conditions. Relationships between adult men were not allowed, and it was very frowned upon for the adult to be penetrated.
When relationships aren't based in equality the only way for men to get into one is a power imbalance that allows them to abuse their partner. Be it gender or age.
@@verybarebones This. Like, that's really all it boils down to. It's a power dynamic. Heterosexuals did it too. A father giving his daughter away to be married was an exchange of property. Inklings of this still exist in traditions today.
@@verybarebones Sex is not this fantastical movie idea of love and affection culminating in a moment of mutual bliss. It's solely about obtaining personal physical gratification or exerting control over your partner's. All of this lovey dovey nonsense pollutes the very concept and gives people unrealistic expectations in relationships.
@@trajectoryunown Umm.. I mean, you're (partially) not wrong, since that also exists, but that doesn't mean the "lovey dovey" stuff is nonsense, that's a thing too. It's not like there is only one way to have sex or to feel for your partner.
Most countries don't teach the more embarrassing parts of their own history. I've had to come to terms with all kinds of falsehoods I was taught in school living in the US, but I'm glad I did. Historical context is a positive way to move forward, even if it's not what we want to hear. Unfortunately, I've seen Japanese people remaining in that bubble of comfortable ignorance like: "Why are Koreans so mad? They should just get over it." Rest of the world: *sweats*
Just to be clear, since being a Wakashu is something that you can grow out of if you decide to change the hairstyle and clothing, does this mean Wakashus can eventually become the "doms" that look for other Wakashu?
So back in the day, Wakashu and women were depicted in art looking pretty much identical. Nowadays, femboys and women in anime can often be indistinguishable at first glance. If nothing else, at least the Japanese are consistent throughout the centuries.
Haaa so that's why Yaoi/BL manga often have this trope where one guy is young, almost childlike, while the other guy is like the embodiment of a mature gentleman. I see...
I always thought that it was a stand in for a teenagers fantasies of a mature figure showing you the "forbidden delights" of adulthood. With an extra touch of more forbidden. (A lot of places and families are still a bit homophobic.) Which is why it's so popular amongst young girls. (Which sex and sexuality is still more restrictive than boys.) I say this as someone who was a teenage girl. Though as an adult it is definitely something that would set alarm bells in my head...
@@Animefreakess The "yaoi" trope in Japan with an adult man and teenage boy is more read by adult men. The female audience does read shounen ai or yaoi, but in their case it would more often be between two bishounen who can be very young, or young. A major point is the appearance of the protagonists. (since I keep getting responses to this: I made a distinction between men and women. Yaoi is for women, hence I didn't use quotation marks. For men the genre is called differently, so I used the word "yaoi". Japanese BL in general is wrongfully called yaoi, even some sites with the material put both male and female genres in the yaoi category. If I use bara or gei komi, many people will not understand what I'm talking about. I apologise if I made it confusing and perhaps offended someone.) I don't say the majority of "yaoi" readers is men. On the contrary, BL always had a huge female Japanese audience. What I'm saying is that the yaoi intended for female audience is written differently than "yaoi" intended for (adult) male readers.
@@Linfamy I'm afraid to ask what if he says like "oh my little tanuki I may be old but I'm still young at heart....to the men atleast" what if I find out my grandfather is a pimp! 😤😫
Suddenly the doujinshi and animes where the bottom is 'embarrassed by their own desire' make more sense. Didn't expect it to be a history thing like that
@@lainiwakura1776 still? Even at this point of time? I feel like people would have finally realized that it’s only natural so they shouldn’t feel that way
@Ethan Cox but most of those cases still don't represent women sexuality in a positive light. She's either depicted as a hoe; dyed hair, shorts with butt hanging out and boobs in your face coz lord forbid a regular jane enjoys sex. Or she's a frigid boss need of a good diddling to put her in her rightful place. Most hentai is demeaning to women tbh... and now I'm just going to quickly forget that I had a whole philosophical argument about the misogyny inherent in animated porn.
This episode was both hilarious and appalling at the same time. I learned a lot though. I wish the mentorship on both sides (male and female) was more common place, but without the romantic connotations. It would have been great to have a guide to kind of teach you and work with you one on one to help you reach your goals, like a third parent (in some cases a second parent because one is missing, or their only parent as in the case of orphans). Anyway, thank you for sharing this historical knowledge with us. Your sense of humor really helped get through some of the courser parts.
Thanks for the information! I love the manga "Momo To Manji" and I think this helped me continue to understand it on a deeper level since it's a story based during the later half of the Edo period.
As a BL manga reader, I understand now why there is this kind of sick cliché where the bottom accepts or "falls in love" with the top because of compassion "oh, poor top, he was so in love with me that he tried to rape me and I even got mad at him. Next time I'll apologize"
The fact that male pattern baldness was such a common thing that male Japanese hairstyles back in the day seem to be addressing the issue by shaving the parts most likely to have balded and then pulled a come over before it was even a thing.
I have not regretted my subscription to your channel, outstanding composition and commentary aimed towards historical accuracy. I became an instant fan after watching only 1 or 2 videos and subscribed immediately.
@@raspberrycrowns9494 imagine hating these men chasing after you but accepting their money and giving them time anyway and pretending you like them just because you can't escape from your own culture then they think you like them but you're being tsundere about it
Yeah, I was excited for this video! I had thought I'd saved it to watch later, found I didn't, and literally scrolled back through a hoard of videos just to watch this! And all to be let down by the real history...😬
This literally explains why it's so common to see crossdressers or effeminate men in anime!! It's not necessarily because they're all trans (some are) like some people think, but that they're emulating this. The character Ritsu Sohma is stunted in his life and he feels comfortable wearing womens clothing. It's when he grows up mentally and becomes confident that he begins to wear men's clothing and has a relationship with a woman. Almost like a similar coming of age that is connected to the clothing!
What's kinda fascinating is that young men and boys in Greece had almost the exact same role with the same rules and implications, like the younger one is the "bottom" and how the older man was a mentor for the young boy. Its fascinating how different cultures evolved to have the same ideas and practices often independently from one another.
Also Ancient Greece. (From which Rome copied much of their culture especially their high culture, religion, art, architecture etc, even government i.e. senators generally spoke Greek while common folk spoke Latin).
The Rome and Greece thing is somewhat of a historical misinterpretation. Unlike with wakashu, where attraction and sex acts were explicitly detailed in writing, no such thing exists in Greek literature. The relationship between adult men and young boys was closer to that of master and student and held an element of affection closer to that of a father or older brother. To my knowledge such sex acts were heavily frowned upon, either between adults or adults and minors. This is supported by the prevalence of heavy homophobia present in much of Greek writing and law (Homosexuality was punishable by death in Athens). A lot of the “top” and “bottom” power dynamic is a historical distortion by some notable modern historians in an attempt to legitimize homosexual relations by citing historical examples. Or in this case creating them
@@noidsuper In Plato's Phaedrus, it is related that, with time, the erômenos develops a "passionate longing" for his erastês and a "reciprocal love" (anteros) for him that is a replica of the erastês’ love. The erômenos is also said to have a desire "similar to the erastes', albeit weaker, to see, to touch, to kiss and to lie with him
@@viracocha6093 ??? Sparta famously encouraged warriors to take other warriors as lovers, as that would make them fight more fiercely. But, Japan's way of doing things has much more in common with the Athenian way, than the Spartan 🤷🏼♀️
Don't really understand why people disslike this video. It's just an objective summary of long gone japanese culture. Seems vile and disturbing to modern society sure but that ist not Linfarmy's fault. Like for this video! Very interesting! 👍🏻
I don't think they did since it was considered normal, remember that not so long ago in western countries (and by not so long ago i mean 80s 90s) it was completely socially accepted for grown men to hit on and sleep with teenage girls, here in France the age of consent is still 16 and until recently you could marry at that age. So if people were that careless in the 90s I imagine people from the Edo era didn't give a single shit. Also if i understood that video correctly, all the men hitting on wakashu have been wakashu themselves at some point, so i guess it was a sort of "if I endured it then so can you" kind of mindset
It was not disturbing at all this whole thing that grows man should be with young children is just a European construct obviously there should be consent I mean the average age of losing your virginity in the United States is 16 years old so how does it matter anyway, the minimum age of consent in France is 15 years old President Emmanuel macron literally slept with his high school teacher when he was 15
This was quite educating, now i understand historically why yaoi ukes are always depicted as fragile, beautiful and childlike while the semes were depicted manly, mature and dominant.
I actually feel sort of sorry for the boys who didn't like boys. And even more for the ones who DID and got thrown out when they got too old. Poor boys.
In the sense of mentoring this sounds very much like ancient/classical Greco-Roman culture. In Greece it was very formalized, often as a deal between the father and potential paramour, resulting in the youth being symbolically kidnapped! It's all very convoluted, but interesting. These mentoring relationships were especially in Sparta (despite what the movie 300 would have us believe.)
The facets of the modern world, how bizarre and weird our customs are, if one showed the customs of our modern age to those in the past and those in the future, neither ones would think of us as sane.
"Something from the wakashu time may have survived in the modern day: the look of the bishonen or beautiful boy. I hear the ladies are into it." I don't understand why I prefer prettier guys rather than the manly ones. But, yeah.
K POP & BTS is Wakashu!!! Mos Def lol I think that is what they are lowkey bringing back to modern times. Hence, some countries banned them calling them 'gay'. #TheMoreWeKnow
Excellent. Well delivered and very interesting. Patronage spans quite a diverse breadth of doings, and this expression obviously best served the patron, but must also have even created wakashu who were well known for their beauty, loyalty and poise? Interesting to consider what elements may have snuck their way into modern times as gender bending 'Boy Bands' strike the height of Fame and success!
It's interesting how fluid the sexual attraction was. I think a lot of people, including myself, see changes in their sexual preference as time goes on. I also wonder if things like this and what the Greco-Roman people did could be a Mt least partially why people (wrongfully) associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm not saying it's the only reason, that's a broader concept, but it seems people made the association for more than just because of the Bible's misttanslation & Christian campaigns to change the word that meant "pedophile" into "homosexual".
Kinda. Yaoi has a top and bottom and the bottom is the role women can insert themselves into. Women in Japan were not seen as equal until recently, and even then...
"Parents sometimes had a problem with their wakashu sons being way too attractive." SHOWS KENTO YAMAZAKI'S PHOTO. Edit: 1.4k likes. Damn Kento lend me his popularity effect 😂
Asian history is always fascinating to me. It is quite fascinating and gives much more context to understanding their current society standards and laws.
I remember watching a documentary that geisha was initially for companionship. They talk, entertain, hang around men who bought their time for the day.. but maybe their brothels wanted more money that they allowed THAT kind of service to get more money. Some to buy their freedom.. some wants to get more favor by doing that to get their patron to buy them out of the establishment.. or idk. XD So maybe it goes the same way for the males who entertain other men. They were trained to sing, dance, other sets of skills(instruments, sewing, dancing,poetry etc etc) and has very good charisma so they could keep the patrons coming and never getting bored of them. Thus making the brothel thrive
Because wakashu romance was still bad taste in their old society. Not illegal like today, but still frowned upon. Since why prey on young boys when there are alot of young women available?
@@seraby7151 you wrong tho , most young woman don't allow to go outside , so the man turn their eyes to the young boy , and it weren't frowed upon even widely accepted
Don't conflate a loving relationship with one built on sustaining a favorable power-dynamic. It's easy to look at this, or other instances of common practices of sexual predation in different circles throughout history, and make assumptions that it's nothing more than the natural disposition of those people, in that time, in that culture. There's stuff like this all over in the modern day too, and perhaps it's bolstered by a society built around domination and self-obsessed acquisition, but this is different than genuine romantic connection.
Appreciate how matter of factly you talk about these kinds of topics. Even though you need to use euphemisms to please the youtube overlords, it’s nice that you don’t treat it like a big joke and laugh about it. And adversely don’t make a huge deal about how horrible and shady it is by our modern standards. The concept does make me sort of uncomfortable because of the power imbalance, and I personally don’t exactly think it was a good practice, but I also appreciate that things were just different back then and we just can’t cast judgement with only our perspective. The best we can do is try our best today yknow?
its always so sad to hear young boys being targeted by grown men :( even back then. even now, the past is now glorified now by young boys being told (by grown men) that men were ‘tough’ back then
@@emsparklemoji They colonized people, enslaved people, raped people, committed genocides, along with uncountable more disgusting crimes all in the name of “love.” Well there’s clearly no hate like Christian love, that’s been historically proven time and time again. So no, that not a “laugh out loud” thing, it’s incredibly fucked up and sickening.
@@shroomer8294 Yeah I thought all that once too until I realized I had been lied to my whole life about everything Christianity is. It's your knowledge of your own sin that is making you feel vulnerable in the eyes of God, not Christians. It's the unfinished business of your sin that nags at you and makes you feel out of place around Christians; where they live without worry you are plagued by it, where they live in joy and trust and peace you live in fear and doubt and mental unrest. The evidence of a life with Jesus and a life without Jesus speaks for itself, the joy and love and prosperity with vs the mental anguish and suffering without. Deny it if you want, make excuses for it if you can, but everyone can still see it, and I know deep down you can too. You KNOW why you suffer and you know what you can do to stop it but you still can't bring yourself to do it. You can lie and try to sully his name all you want to hide from His judgement and pretend He can't see you, but God will continue saving countless lives through the sacrifice of His son Jesus whether you want that to be true or not. He will continue to make this world better while those who reject His salvation will continue to suffer deeply. I say this with genuine care for the lost child of God that you are, either repent and find Jesus for yourself and live a higher life, or continue to cope and seethe and gnash your teeth and be lost and depressed and blown by every wayward wind feeling without purpose, the choice is yours. I know you have it in you to make the right one, I know you can do it, if God could still save and forgive me who hated Him so much and lived in such defiance of Him for a time, He can and will absolutely save you too. I pray you'll make it there!
"But fear not, something from the wakashu times may have survived in the modern day: The look of bishounen. I hear the ladies are into it" This one hit me right on the mark 😂
Yeah fuck love triangles! Usually the love triangles are like: 2 people love another 1 person who can't choose. That's not a love triangle, that's more like an angle. REAL love triangles is if all of them loves both people
There is a manga called "Momo to Manji" by (Sakura Sawa) which is one of my favourites. I personally think the art style is phenomenal but it might not be for everyone. The hairstyles, fashion and lifestyles are on point. But because it is set in this kind of period and tradition, it is very disturbing to read about Momo was prostituted at very young age (insect warning as well). The Seme, Manji was also struggling with his sexuality and frustrated with his desire to make love to MEN *won't spoil it for u* but he couldn't because he is younger ( younger ones had to be the Uke). However, the relationship between Momo and Manji is very wholesome and cute. The mangaka had done a very good job on various research and it shows since it's very informative. Highly recommended if you are open minded and appreciate the characters' development 👏💕
*THE AMOUNT OF ROASTING IS GIVING ME LIFE* this was very interesting and educational and unbiased. the way it's delivered (with the roasts) is just _chef's kiss_
i think it's funny that men consider facial hair, deep voice, and generally masculine features unattractive but have those themselves like the self hatred is realllll
Personally I don’t mind masculine features on women. A lot of non mlm don’t mind those features but they can’t think of those things in a sexual way, it feels strange for men who like feminine features to see manly features in that way. Femininity is a lot easier to take on because lots of guys who like women like the feeling of being the dominating one (this is why pretty men were easier to accept in the past; they were more submissive and looked like women)
Oh also something interesting. I think it’s easier for women to be like “wow she’s so hot I’d let her get it”. It’s a little bit because of performance bisexuality. Society says it’s ok if straight women mess around especially if it’s for a man. Whereas men are told to bully any man who does this. Society has told us that anybody can admire women but if men admire men you’re disgusting (it’s starting to change)
i actually read a historical edo period (with actual edo period fashion and hairstyles) bl manga a while ago called momo to manji that kind of explored this dynamic (which very closely mirrors greek pederasty) by having one of the leads be a former kagema, which is a male adolescent prostitute that grew out of kabuki culture after female actresses were banned (just like female actors were banned during Shakespeare's time due to their immense popularity as prostitutes). It was an interesting read bc it explored the idea of having to grow up when your monetary value and sexual availability was tied to being a teenager. Also the other male lead struggles with being a young gay man whose sexual preferences in bed don't align with the norms of generally accepted homosexual activity in the period bc he doesn't want to be sexually submissive to older men. The manga also explores how the main couples relationship runs counter to norms by being monogamous, between two adults, and long term, and neither of them pursue relationships with woman for monetary/status gain, though other characters do. A real standout among japanese historical manga of every genre, and a fascinating read, though certainly not for everyone for various reasons.
This has carried over into modern times almost 1:1. In many Yaoi/BL, the Uke is the younger one hating the sex and doing it more for emotional satisfaction than physical one, and is often the more unskilled one, while the Seme is the older one who usually sticks it in and who has a position of authority or power (of course, there are some exceptions to this). Which gives off pretty homophobic vibes, all things considered.
when you talk about dull men's kimonos 5:15 I just kept thinking I have that outfit in Animal crossing new Horizons and I think there was a Wakashu wig in the older games but probably not in the new horizon if there ever was. But yeah, great vid and your jokes are super
"These boys never became men. They became, husbands." DAMN, that sentence made me roll of my couch my laughter. I'm going to tease my husband with this everyday!!!!
I gave a thumb up because the VDO is well put together, not too wordy and because for the first time in my in my life I am unspeakabley grateful for the location I was borned - obviously not in Japan. I repsected this nation so very much up until this footage.... now it's gone.
@@yvainedafoe5492 Why...why? I had succeed in banishing this anime from the surface of my thoughts and feelings. And what you just said... Causing a park to light up a neural pattern that was left unused for years, bringing back to life a conduit of memories that once carefully buried in the deepest of my subconscious And then you were there. Here you are Making me REMEMBER THIS DAMN ANIME?????? 😭😭😭
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@GameWizard21st apparently so.
(Also heyyyy! Haven't seen your comments in a while 😁)
@GameWizard21st nice, what's your deviantart account, show it off :D
@@Linfamy your a funny meme
@@Linfamy Hello Linfamy. Remember/see my comment about horses? Well only nameworthy one I could find in internet was Matsukaze of the samurai Maeda Keiji, could you tell us in future about this pair, or have you already in some video I haven't seen?
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"before 18, you're a child, when you reach 18, you're a child. . . with acne"
that hit me so hard.
Let's pledge to wash our faces with the best face wash out there before going to bed tonight
@@_Green_Onions_ the horror when I realise that I may face something exactly similar a few years later... 😭
@@_Green_Onions_ Thank you so much!! I'll go and Google about all those stuffs... Now that you've told me about the credit thing, I'll be careful all the time. Thanks a lot, once again 🤗
@@_Green_Onions_ The thing is most of my elders(including my parents and elder sibling) except seniors at school tell me to learn about stuffs myself. To experience it myself, that's how I'll grow up better.
But of course, it's really great to have someone warn and tell you beforehand about stuffs which actually matter in life. It would be great if you won't mind providing me with more info 😊
@@_Green_Onions_ Anything will do alright with me, I have both. Thanks again!!
“Wakashu were considered most beautiful from 15 to 17 years old”
Ah, generic shounen protagonist age.
Thank god shotacon was never mention.
@@hazeeqrazak It is mentioned. It was considered pizza with pineapple.
😂😂😂😂
The term Wakashu was actually replaced by the term Shounen.
@Kakashi Hatake The term "Wakashu" was used primarily during the Edo period. After that it's usage was replaced by the term "shounen." Kind of like how we don't call a toilet a "commode" anymore.
"these boys never became adults , they just became husbands" such a fire line .
meow.
Ummmmm
Wtf is this islam thing true?!??!!??
@lamya bouchantouf oh honey its not Islam just the time period. In Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet when Paris went propose, Juliet's dad said she was too young and Paris said "Younger than her are happy mothers still" Juliet was 13...meaning it was common to see pregnant 11 year olds or breastfeeding 12 year olds.
@Baby Hunn That's false information... Aisha got married young, but Muhammad never touched her until she is an adult... He just let her play dolls with her friends, provide living place and meals to her as her husband. This is based on my knowledge and I never knew about him making love with Aisha
In short: Japanese men practiced Sugar Daddy Culture
YES
And the wakashus are just ancient femboys
Ahh! You got that right 🤭
@@fancyincubus anceint femboys💀
@@fancyincubus ANCIENT FEMBOYS LETS GOOO
So basically Japan said, “you can do gay things, but you’re not allowed to like it.”
Well, the men were allowed to like it 🤷♂️
Not exactly, the adult men were only allowed to like it under certain conditions. Relationships between adult men were not allowed, and it was very frowned upon for the adult to be penetrated.
because farming societies rely on offspring to make more offspring and continue the work.
@@hXbradshaw wtf they give it a go with young man x adult men but not adult men x adult men? Hmmmmmmmmm
@@bvip8309 That's because one is hot while the other is eww. Who the hell is attracted to grown men (except straight women maybe)?
"Male-on-male sex did happen, but it was mostly between men and boys"
Literally works for basically anywhere in the world throughout history
When relationships aren't based in equality the only way for men to get into one is a power imbalance that allows them to abuse their partner. Be it gender or age.
Yaoi be like:
🤢
@@verybarebones This. Like, that's really all it boils down to. It's a power dynamic. Heterosexuals did it too. A father giving his daughter away to be married was an exchange of property. Inklings of this still exist in traditions today.
@@verybarebones Sex is not this fantastical movie idea of love and affection culminating in a moment of mutual bliss. It's solely about obtaining personal physical gratification or exerting control over your partner's. All of this lovey dovey nonsense pollutes the very concept and gives people unrealistic expectations in relationships.
@@trajectoryunown Umm.. I mean, you're (partially) not wrong, since that also exists, but that doesn't mean the "lovey dovey" stuff is nonsense, that's a thing too. It's not like there is only one way to have sex or to feel for your partner.
Feudal Japan: We really 'like' young boys!
Ottomans, Afghans, Romans, Greeks: ONE OF US, ONE OF US!
Wait why afghans?
@@why6036 there is a common afghani phrase "Women are for children ,Boys are for love for more information look up bashi bazok
@@fnansjy456 can u provide me more info
@@antiabrahamicreligionjust search dancing boys, it’s common Pakistan and afghan culture.
Also Pakistan today
As a Japanese person, I'm surprised I haven't heard about this anywhere (Living here my whole life)
Most countries don't teach the more embarrassing parts of their own history. I've had to come to terms with all kinds of falsehoods I was taught in school living in the US, but I'm glad I did. Historical context is a positive way to move forward, even if it's not what we want to hear.
Unfortunately, I've seen Japanese people remaining in that bubble of comfortable ignorance like:
"Why are Koreans so mad? They should just get over it."
Rest of the world: *sweats*
You know English ??
@@name_adi Being japanese doesn't stop someone from learning english 💀
Same
no offence, but most of your younglings didn't even realised y'all used to be a colonizer lol
"they had sex once a year, so it happened very infrequently, or frequently for some of you" WHY'D YOU HAVE TO CALL US OUT LIKE THAT
LMFAO EUFIWFNUREGHFNRW XD
I still can't get over I was criticized by my choice in wine and pizza just before.
@Ascend Same :(
That hurt xd
Sure they did (not)
I dont get it
I never thought I'd be learning history by my own free will
Good job :)
School history didn't have secks.
GORL ... yes
If every history lesson would be like this I would learn it all the time
Hamilton fans: first time?
Just to be clear, since being a Wakashu is something that you can grow out of if you decide to change the hairstyle and clothing, does this mean Wakashus can eventually become the "doms" that look for other Wakashu?
Yep, once a wakashu went thru the ceremony to become an adult, he could pursue other wakashu as an adult man.
So back in the day, Wakashu and women were depicted in art looking pretty much identical. Nowadays, femboys and women in anime can often be indistinguishable at first glance. If nothing else, at least the Japanese are consistent throughout the centuries.
Edo Japan and Ancient Greece be like: He said he was 15, officer.
He was 5 officer
@@user-du2is8ze4b oh great a combination
@@TastyToez oh no
@@sugarmelody4264 sorry ._.
@@user-du2is8ze4b yep, that pretty f up
Haaa so that's why Yaoi/BL manga often have this trope where one guy is young, almost childlike, while the other guy is like the embodiment of a mature gentleman. I see...
And the gentleman almost always bottoms ahhhh!
I always thought that it was a stand in for a teenagers fantasies of a mature figure showing you the "forbidden delights" of adulthood. With an extra touch of more forbidden. (A lot of places and families are still a bit homophobic.) Which is why it's so popular amongst young girls. (Which sex and sexuality is still more restrictive than boys.) I say this as someone who was a teenage girl. Though as an adult it is definitely something that would set alarm bells in my head...
@@Animefreakess The "yaoi" trope in Japan with an adult man and teenage boy is more read by adult men. The female audience does read shounen ai or yaoi, but in their case it would more often be between two bishounen who can be very young, or young. A major point is the appearance of the protagonists.
(since I keep getting responses to this: I made a distinction between men and women. Yaoi is for women, hence I didn't use quotation marks. For men the genre is called differently, so I used the word "yaoi". Japanese BL in general is wrongfully called yaoi, even some sites with the material put both male and female genres in the yaoi category. If I use bara or gei komi, many people will not understand what I'm talking about. I apologise if I made it confusing and perhaps offended someone.)
I don't say the majority of "yaoi" readers is men. On the contrary, BL always had a huge female Japanese audience. What I'm saying is that the yaoi intended for female audience is written differently than "yaoi" intended for (adult) male readers.
You mean lk boku no pico
@@Black.Spades some just read all.
**SCREAMING THROUGHOUT ENTIRE VIDEO**
I just realized my grandfather has that haircut.... : |
Omg
Serious? O.o
@@Linfamy I've never been this serious in my life I'm so startled even after 3 weeks I'm disgusted and proud but overall I'm traumatized
@@extrastainedsock3497 it's probably just a hairstyle choice at this day and age. You should ask him why he does it :)
@@Linfamy I'm afraid to ask what if he says like "oh my little tanuki I may be old but I'm still young at heart....to the men atleast" what if I find out my grandfather is a pimp! 😤😫
The jokes helped me get back into my skin after constantly being freaked out throughout the video.
Y e s
same
"A teacher shouldn’t sleep with a student, not without a camera crew"
I fucking died OMG.
What does it mean??
York Oksmoll
You poor Innocent soul.
@@Just-a-random-guy. Answer please?
@@seboy5483 There have been irl cases of teachers having secks with students, only to have their scandalous relations exposed thanks to camera crews
@@seboy5483 Yeah the comment above me is correct.
I did reply to you. But it looks like my comment got deleted.
Suddenly the doujinshi and animes where the bottom is 'embarrassed by their own desire' make more sense. Didn't expect it to be a history thing like that
Yeah it totally does! I honestly didn’t expect to be history either haha. I don’t think anybody did
Kinda? It does tie into Japan's history, but women in Japan are not supposed like sex, that's why their pr0n always has the women not wanting it.
@@lainiwakura1776 still? Even at this point of time? I feel like people would have finally realized that it’s only natural so they shouldn’t feel that way
@@lainiwakura1776 I'd looked at hentai, and some of it has the women being VERY eager!
@Ethan Cox but most of those cases still don't represent women sexuality in a positive light. She's either depicted as a hoe; dyed hair, shorts with butt hanging out and boobs in your face coz lord forbid a regular jane enjoys sex. Or she's a frigid boss need of a good diddling to put her in her rightful place. Most hentai is demeaning to women tbh... and now I'm just going to quickly forget that I had a whole philosophical argument about the misogyny inherent in animated porn.
"seggs usually happened once a year so pretty infrequently - or frequently for some of you" IM SCREAMING WHEQIUEHUEU
"But for most people, a wakashu was past his prime the moment puberty hit him like a ton of pricks." Just about drowned my monitor in tea.
6:45 “you couldn’t take two steps without tripping on a man trying to get inside your kimono” i’m cackling 💀
I have searched for this comment 😂😂😂
I just had to check the comment section exactly at 6:45 n see your comment didn't I 😂
Yaoi writers: "write that down, write that down!"
Lol
A joke older than the Edo period
Don't
Lol
PLEASE BL
This episode was both hilarious and appalling at the same time. I learned a lot though. I wish the mentorship on both sides (male and female) was more common place, but without the romantic connotations. It would have been great to have a guide to kind of teach you and work with you one on one to help you reach your goals, like a third parent (in some cases a second parent because one is missing, or their only parent as in the case of orphans).
Anyway, thank you for sharing this historical knowledge with us. Your sense of humor really helped get through some of the courser parts.
Ikr, the whole darn thing sounded like masked pedophila aka giving excuses to touch young boys
Thanks for the information! I love the manga "Momo To Manji" and I think this helped me continue to understand it on a deeper level since it's a story based during the later half of the Edo period.
“these boys never became adults they just became...husbands” lmao
ikr!!! i love the subtle humor throughout this video 😆
I still can't get it lol
@@pussycat2208
🙊are u being serious or joking? plz n thx 🤗 lolz
@@pussycat2208 you don’t get the joke?
@@haydenblanchard2006 Yuh my humor is broken nvm me
As a BL manga reader, I understand now why there is this kind of sick cliché where the bottom accepts or "falls in love" with the top because of compassion "oh, poor top, he was so in love with me that he tried to rape me and I even got mad at him. Next time I'll apologize"
LMAO
ROFL
Haha yeah
The fact that this actually happens irl LMAOOO
I died at next time I’ll apologize 😂😂😂😂
The fact that male pattern baldness was such a common thing that male Japanese hairstyles back in the day seem to be addressing the issue by shaving the parts most likely to have balded and then pulled a come over before it was even a thing.
I have not regretted my subscription to your channel, outstanding composition and commentary aimed towards historical accuracy. I became an instant fan after watching only 1 or 2 videos and subscribed immediately.
Thanks! I appreciate it :)
Me: *reads title*
Me: Yessss
Video: It's about relationships between men and adolescent boys.
Me: Oh no, Ancient Greece all over again
😅
Idk know about Japan. But it wasn't like that in ancient greece
@@manosjaitan3101 Look up Ancient Greece homosexuality
"Oh no"? What's wrong with you? That's hot af.
@@Serjo777 😟
And now so many yaoi tropes make sense historically.
I wonder what about bara?
@@drizzlemcnasty7733 bara more realistic in modern life I guess.
And those filthy fujoshi
including the rape stuff
Yeah, the whole "have sex out of compassion or duty, it's not supposed to be pleasurable for *you*" thing is still really common...
" The man gives money and expenses, the Wakashu gives seggs "
Basically ancient Sugar Babies.
“The art of eating ice cream without letting it melt on your hand”
Me: **no…. No….no….**
"men paid top dollar for women who hated them" lol some things never change
Simps never change
Do you think this is where the Tsundere trope originated?
@@raspberrycrowns9494 Woah
Woah wait
@@raspberrycrowns9494 imagine hating these men chasing after you but accepting their money and giving them time anyway and pretending you like them just because you can't escape from your own culture
then they think you like them but you're being tsundere about it
@@raspberrycrowns9494 Big brain moment
Me: *reads title* "hell yeah historical gay people!"
*its about predators*
"oh no historical gay people!"
LMAOOOOO
Sammme 😭
😂😂🤣
That’s what I thought too! 😩
Yeah, I was excited for this video! I had thought I'd saved it to watch later, found I didn't, and literally scrolled back through a hoard of videos just to watch this! And all to be let down by the real history...😬
This literally explains why it's so common to see crossdressers or effeminate men in anime!! It's not necessarily because they're all trans (some are) like some people think, but that they're emulating this. The character Ritsu Sohma is stunted in his life and he feels comfortable wearing womens clothing. It's when he grows up mentally and becomes confident that he begins to wear men's clothing and has a relationship with a woman. Almost like a similar coming of age that is connected to the clothing!
“By the time puberty hit him, like a ton of pricks-“ I CAUGHT THAT, YOU CAN’T SLIP THAT PUN IN WITHOUT NOTICE.
What's kinda fascinating is that young men and boys in Greece had almost the exact same role with the same rules and implications, like the younger one is the "bottom" and how the older man was a mentor for the young boy. Its fascinating how different cultures evolved to have the same ideas and practices often independently from one another.
I had the exact same thoughts! :)
Also Ancient Greece. (From which Rome copied much of their culture especially their high culture, religion, art, architecture etc, even government i.e. senators generally spoke Greek while common folk spoke Latin).
Maybe it's part of the militaristic tradition
The Rome and Greece thing is somewhat of a historical misinterpretation. Unlike with wakashu, where attraction and sex acts were explicitly detailed in writing, no such thing exists in Greek literature. The relationship between adult men and young boys was closer to that of master and student and held an element of affection closer to that of a father or older brother. To my knowledge such sex acts were heavily frowned upon, either between adults or adults and minors.
This is supported by the prevalence of heavy homophobia present in much of Greek writing and law (Homosexuality was punishable by death in Athens). A lot of the “top” and “bottom” power dynamic is a historical distortion by some notable modern historians in an attempt to legitimize homosexual relations by citing historical examples. Or in this case creating them
@@noidsuper In Plato's Phaedrus, it is related that, with time, the erômenos develops a "passionate longing" for his erastês and a "reciprocal love" (anteros) for him that is a replica of the erastês’ love. The erômenos is also said to have a desire "similar to the erastes', albeit weaker, to see, to touch, to kiss and to lie with him
Wasn't expecting Japan to have something in common with Sparta.
Spartans considered homosexuality as akin to incest and therefore prohibited it.
Not only japan, read ancient Asian countries and you will they have such kind of relationships just varies on what way they make it
@@viracocha6093 ??? Sparta famously encouraged warriors to take other warriors as lovers, as that would make them fight more fiercely.
But, Japan's way of doing things has much more in common with the Athenian way, than the Spartan 🤷🏼♀️
@@viracocha6093 man/boy love was encouraged by the Spartans in the barracks. Increases unit cohesion in their phalanx.
Weren't Geishas originally men?
Don't really understand why people disslike this video. It's just an objective summary of long gone japanese culture. Seems vile and disturbing to modern society sure but that ist not Linfarmy's fault.
Like for this video! Very interesting! 👍🏻
Well that explains a lot of creepy web comic tropes. Poor kids, I hope that the people who exploited them got what they deserved.
I don't think they did since it was considered normal, remember that not so long ago in western countries (and by not so long ago i mean 80s 90s) it was completely socially accepted for grown men to hit on and sleep with teenage girls, here in France the age of consent is still 16 and until recently you could marry at that age. So if people were that careless in the 90s I imagine people from the Edo era didn't give a single shit.
Also if i understood that video correctly, all the men hitting on wakashu have been wakashu themselves at some point, so i guess it was a sort of "if I endured it then so can you" kind of mindset
@@Cloudipy ah so all men went though that stage ?
what did they deserve? what makes our current standards the top of morality?
just as you judge others you will be judged in the future,
It was not disturbing at all this whole thing that grows man should be with young children is just a European construct obviously there should be consent I mean the average age of losing your virginity in the United States is 16 years old so how does it matter anyway, the minimum age of consent in France is 15 years old President Emmanuel macron literally slept with his high school teacher when he was 15
@Rebecca Anderson so are you saying it’s right? Are you saying go ahead?
This was quite educating, now i understand historically why yaoi ukes are always depicted as fragile, beautiful and childlike while the semes were depicted manly, mature and dominant.
ikr wow
Ew..bro. Not realistic at all. The only realistic comic with BXB that I can think of is "Go for it nakumura!" Was it?
Wtf
Point
True
I actually feel sort of sorry for the boys who didn't like boys. And even more for the ones who DID and got thrown out when they got too old. Poor boys.
you feel sorry because?
@Lestat Luka thank you for sharing ❤️ bless you your child& your father . I'm so invested in what I just learned.
@Lestat Luka That is so horrible and backwards, I never knew any of this. I'm glad your own child is safe from a situation like that.
@Lestat Luka I'm sorry you have to go through that. Japan has a very...traditional way of thinking, which is harmful. Thank you for sharing with us.
@Lestat Luka this is so messed up, I'm sorry
The thumbnail used is really pretty tho
👁️👄👁️💖
Not at all
In the sense of mentoring this sounds very much like ancient/classical Greco-Roman culture. In Greece it was very formalized, often as a deal between the father and potential paramour, resulting in the youth being symbolically kidnapped! It's all very convoluted, but interesting.
These mentoring relationships were especially in Sparta (despite what the movie 300 would have us believe.)
Ah yes historical yaoi
cant wait for the next episode "historical fujoshi"
With kiddos 😳😳😳😳
@@fikrifahrizal482 yeah, those are real too
Painter of the night,brrrrrr.
@@fikrifahrizal482 o.O
I was wondering why BL was strong in manga....you just answered one of the mysteries of the universe, sir Lin. O_O
Didn't know it was such a big thing in manga o.o
@@Linfamy It's not always big, but the size isn't what matters.
@@Linfamy its literally the fastest growing manga genre in Japan afaik and there is now a specialized bl anime studio too XD
Disturbing news you have brought me.
@@Linfamy also that's why you have so many girly boys (that you can't even tell the difference) in manga and anime, like Astolfo from Fate
Ancient Greece: I am the most gay!
Ancient Rome: No I am MORE gay!
Feudal Japan: Amateurs'!
“A student shouldn’t sleep with a teacher without a camera crew”
*LINFAMY NO*
"A teacher shouldn't sleep with a student without a camera crew"
And just like that, I'm dead
The facets of the modern world, how bizarre and weird our customs are, if one showed the customs of our modern age to those in the past and those in the future, neither ones would think of us as sane.
As sketchy as the whole wakashu thing is, an 80 year old wakashu is hilarious to me.
Soubd like a true chad
he must have been very talented.
I would like to know if there is any writing about grey forelocks...
@@Ass_of_Amalek His milk shake brings all the boys to the yard. A little powdery, but still good. :P
@@ARedMagicMarker LMAO
I swear I've seen one in an anime before.
"Something from the wakashu time may have survived in the modern day: the look of the bishonen or beautiful boy. I hear the ladies are into it."
I don't understand why I prefer prettier guys rather than the manly ones. But, yeah.
K POP & BTS is Wakashu!!! Mos Def lol I think that is what they are lowkey bringing back to modern times. Hence, some countries banned them calling them 'gay'. #TheMoreWeKnow
I prefer a mix but not not into abs, just lean guys that can carry 45 - 50 kg bridal style
I mean.... it's not really a third gender, it's an age of males.Just they define age different than we do.
It’s incredibly weird how all of what we consider to be inappropriate and taboo wasn’t seen that way at all for many centuries around the world.
It's fascinating how drastically different cultures can be.
@@Linfamy Yeah. And how quickly they change too.
@@Jobe-13Just like in ancient Greece and Rome, the upper class were the ones deciding what is moral or not according to their desires
This is actually called peadophilia now
Like duels to the death for slighted honour?
**The Edo-Period FBI would love to know your location.**
better call the spanish inquisition. no one will expect them.
Not again
Yeah, but that's mainly because they'd like to join in or at least watch
**knocks hard** “SHINSENGUMI, OPEN UP!!!!!!!” (新撰組、開けろ!!!!!!!/ Shinsengumi, akero!!!!!!!”)
Shinsengumi?
Excellent. Well delivered and very interesting. Patronage spans quite a diverse breadth of doings, and this expression obviously best served the patron, but must also have even created wakashu who were well known for their beauty, loyalty and poise? Interesting to consider what elements may have snuck their way into modern times as gender bending 'Boy Bands' strike the height of Fame and success!
It's interesting how fluid the sexual attraction was. I think a lot of people, including myself, see changes in their sexual preference as time goes on. I also wonder if things like this and what the Greco-Roman people did could be a Mt least partially why people (wrongfully) associate homosexuality with pedophilia. I'm not saying it's the only reason, that's a broader concept, but it seems people made the association for more than just because of the Bible's misttanslation & Christian campaigns to change the word that meant "pedophile" into "homosexual".
And suddenly, all those creepy Yaoi scenes start to make sense.
OH-
Kinda. Yaoi has a top and bottom and the bottom is the role women can insert themselves into. Women in Japan were not seen as equal until recently, and even then...
@@lainiwakura1776 who cares about those limp wrist pansies?
Bara is the way
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola gross
@@harunrunrun9705 no it isn't
"Parents sometimes had a problem with their wakashu sons being way too attractive."
SHOWS KENTO YAMAZAKI'S PHOTO.
Edit: 1.4k likes. Damn Kento lend me his popularity effect 😂
Lmao 🤣
i was shook lmao 🤣 But yeah, Kento is really damn attractive 🤤
The guts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
AHAHAHAHAH
Uh can someone explain who that actually is? 😭
and suddenly manhua's, yaoi's, and novels start to make perfect sense... oh goodness
Asian history is always fascinating to me. It is quite fascinating and gives much more context to understanding their current society standards and laws.
This is one of the most well made, educational and also disgusting videos I've ever come across.
😂
🤣
😂
It is very creepy and educational
Lol
“Men all desired them” “sex was like once a year” I am confusion
Japanese version of "pon farr".😍
I remember watching a documentary that geisha was initially for companionship. They talk, entertain, hang around men who bought their time for the day.. but maybe their brothels wanted more money that they allowed THAT kind of service to get more money. Some to buy their freedom.. some wants to get more favor by doing that to get their patron to buy them out of the establishment.. or idk. XD
So maybe it goes the same way for the males who entertain other men. They were trained to sing, dance, other sets of skills(instruments, sewing, dancing,poetry etc etc) and has very good charisma so they could keep the patrons coming and never getting bored of them. Thus making the brothel thrive
Because wakashu romance was still bad taste in their old society. Not illegal like today, but still frowned upon. Since why prey on young boys when there are alot of young women available?
@@seraby7151 you wrong tho , most young woman don't allow to go outside , so the man turn their eyes to the young boy , and it weren't frowed upon even widely accepted
You can desire someone without having sex all day everyday?
Don't conflate a loving relationship with one built on sustaining a favorable power-dynamic. It's easy to look at this, or other instances of common practices of sexual predation in different circles throughout history, and make assumptions that it's nothing more than the natural disposition of those people, in that time, in that culture. There's stuff like this all over in the modern day too, and perhaps it's bolstered by a society built around domination and self-obsessed acquisition, but this is different than genuine romantic connection.
Appreciate how matter of factly you talk about these kinds of topics. Even though you need to use euphemisms to please the youtube overlords, it’s nice that you don’t treat it like a big joke and laugh about it. And adversely don’t make a huge deal about how horrible and shady it is by our modern standards.
The concept does make me sort of uncomfortable because of the power imbalance, and I personally don’t exactly think it was a good practice, but I also appreciate that things were just different back then and we just can’t cast judgement with only our perspective. The best we can do is try our best today yknow?
“Look how much he’s suffering, let’s touch penais” wtf lmao
HAHAAHAHJSSJISSHSJ
PENAIS
Just the way he said it “Penai” 😂
🤣🤣
The WAY I CRINGINGLY GIGGLE AT THAT AND THIS VIDEO. THIS IS WHAT LAYFOLK CALL THIS
*GROOMING* AND *THE HOLLYWEIRD AGENDA*
So, basically the Chinese loved broken, deformed crunchy feet and the Japaneese loved a bald head with a lonely patch of hair in the front.
This comment made me cackle so hideously 😭
💀💀💀
And apparently they loved young boys 🤔
@@sweetdreams961 sus
LMFAO I died when I saw this-
its always so sad to hear young boys being targeted by grown men :( even back then.
even now, the past is now glorified now by young boys being told (by grown men) that men were ‘tough’ back then
Everything was queer until Christianity ruined this world
@@shroomer8294you mean Christianity
*saved
*salvaged
*repaired
*freed
*rescued
*comforted
*healed
*liberated
*forgave
*cleansed
*absolved
*restored
*soothed
*pardoned
*relieved
*cured
*redeemed
this world lol
@@emsparklemoji They colonized people, enslaved people, raped people, committed genocides, along with uncountable more disgusting crimes all in the name of “love.” Well there’s clearly no hate like Christian love, that’s been historically proven time and time again. So no, that not a “laugh out loud” thing, it’s incredibly fucked up and sickening.
@@shroomer8294 Yeah I thought all that once too until I realized I had been lied to my whole life about everything Christianity is. It's your knowledge of your own sin that is making you feel vulnerable in the eyes of God, not Christians. It's the unfinished business of your sin that nags at you and makes you feel out of place around Christians; where they live without worry you are plagued by it, where they live in joy and trust and peace you live in fear and doubt and mental unrest.
The evidence of a life with Jesus and a life without Jesus speaks for itself, the joy and love and prosperity with vs the mental anguish and suffering without. Deny it if you want, make excuses for it if you can, but everyone can still see it, and I know deep down you can too. You KNOW why you suffer and you know what you can do to stop it but you still can't bring yourself to do it. You can lie and try to sully his name all you want to hide from His judgement and pretend He can't see you, but God will continue saving countless lives through the sacrifice of His son Jesus whether you want that to be true or not. He will continue to make this world better while those who reject His salvation will continue to suffer deeply.
I say this with genuine care for the lost child of God that you are, either repent and find Jesus for yourself and live a higher life, or continue to cope and seethe and gnash your teeth and be lost and depressed and blown by every wayward wind feeling without purpose, the choice is yours. I know you have it in you to make the right one, I know you can do it, if God could still save and forgive me who hated Him so much and lived in such defiance of Him for a time, He can and will absolutely save you too. I pray you'll make it there!
5:54
>Wears girls clothing
>Men thirst after me.
So I am a Wakashu. But I am not married. So the becoming a husband but not an adult didn't happen.
"But fear not, something from the wakashu times may have survived in the modern day: The look of bishounen. I hear the ladies are into it" This one hit me right on the mark 😂
Knew it!
Meee
@@kyoe3202 HOW
@@Laceration_Gravityyy : awesome : don't use space and boom
"It was sex triangle, and who doesn't love triangles"
*Terrible Writing Advice has entered the chat*
"A LOVE TRIANGLE!"
Pythagoras is shakiiing
They are lots of fun.
Until the pleasure is over.
Can from a year to 7 years.
In my experience 🙄
i despise love triangles
Yeah fuck love triangles! Usually the love triangles are like: 2 people love another 1 person who can't choose. That's not a love triangle, that's more like an angle. REAL love triangles is if all of them loves both people
Grimmdaarrrkkkk
Love you and your humor, keep up the great videos!
bruh this was more interesting than my school activities
Woohoo 👍
@Kojika LMFAO, do u read manhwa like i do cuz u know whenever I comment people always talk about my pfp
@Kojika 😉
Yes I came here because of Painter of the Night nice pfp bruh 😎
@@broken_butterflies8250 lol well thnx
Boku no Pico: “Write that down, write that down!”
PLS OMG THE WAY I CACKLED 😭✋
LMAO NOT BOKU NO PICO 😭✌
😭💀 oh nawww
I watched it today and i never wanted to drink bleach more
@@cherryjawbreakalt here ill give you some
There is a manga called "Momo to Manji" by (Sakura Sawa) which is one of my favourites. I personally think the art style is phenomenal but it might not be for everyone. The hairstyles, fashion and lifestyles are on point. But because it is set in this kind of period and tradition, it is very disturbing to read about Momo was prostituted at very young age (insect warning as well). The Seme, Manji was also struggling with his sexuality and frustrated with his desire to make love to MEN *won't spoil it for u* but he couldn't because he is younger ( younger ones had to be the Uke). However, the relationship between Momo and Manji is very wholesome and cute. The mangaka had done a very good job on various research and it shows since it's very informative. Highly recommended if you are open minded and appreciate the characters' development 👏💕
''I hear the ladies are into it", couldn't be more right
KPOP & BTS is def Wakashu!!!! The ladies love it for this reason. Wakashu vibes.
@@robertchandler2124 I don’t really follow KPOP so don’t know bout that, I was referring to the BL fangirls
“A teacher shouldn’t sleep with a student, not without a camera crew” WOOOOAH- 💀
What does it mean??
@@seboy5483 uuhhhhh....
@@seboy5483 how old are you?
im dead
Bahahahahahahahaha
*THE AMOUNT OF ROASTING IS GIVING ME LIFE*
this was very interesting and educational and unbiased. the way it's delivered (with the roasts) is just _chef's kiss_
😁👍
"You win my applause and a visit from the FBI" KILLED ME LMAO
I was NOT expecting Kento Yamazaki to just suddenly pop up in this video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 made my fucking week 😂🔥 thankyou
'Teacher should not sleep with a student without a camera crew' it hit me a little too slow
I snorted my coffee when he said that
it didn't hit me until you just clarified it XD
OH....OH.....OH NO....NO......i need so much bleach...
Um... What does that mean?
@@user-mf2dt3ct5e ...I'll tell you when you list your innocence....
i think it's funny that men consider facial hair, deep voice, and generally masculine features unattractive but have those themselves like the self hatred is realllll
Don't liking it in your mate doesn't mean you hate it on your self, I think.
I guess that's why Asians look so youthful
Personally I don’t mind masculine features on women. A lot of non mlm don’t mind those features but they can’t think of those things in a sexual way, it feels strange for men who like feminine features to see manly features in that way. Femininity is a lot easier to take on because lots of guys who like women like the feeling of being the dominating one (this is why pretty men were easier to accept in the past; they were more submissive and looked like women)
Oh also something interesting. I think it’s easier for women to be like “wow she’s so hot I’d let her get it”. It’s a little bit because of performance bisexuality. Society says it’s ok if straight women mess around especially if it’s for a man. Whereas men are told to bully any man who does this. Society has told us that anybody can admire women but if men admire men you’re disgusting (it’s starting to change)
@@jalenhart7651 yeah men literally created these unrealistic standards for women AND themselves they have no one else to blame
i actually read a historical edo period (with actual edo period fashion and hairstyles) bl manga a while ago called momo to manji that kind of explored this dynamic (which very closely mirrors greek pederasty) by having one of the leads be a former kagema, which is a male adolescent prostitute that grew out of kabuki culture after female actresses were banned (just like female actors were banned during Shakespeare's time due to their immense popularity as prostitutes). It was an interesting read bc it explored the idea of having to grow up when your monetary value and sexual availability was tied to being a teenager. Also the other male lead struggles with being a young gay man whose sexual preferences in bed don't align with the norms of generally accepted homosexual activity in the period bc he doesn't want to be sexually submissive to older men. The manga also explores how the main couples relationship runs counter to norms by being monogamous, between two adults, and long term, and neither of them pursue relationships with woman for monetary/status gain, though other characters do. A real standout among japanese historical manga of every genre, and a fascinating read, though certainly not for everyone for various reasons.
This has carried over into modern times almost 1:1. In many Yaoi/BL, the Uke is the younger one hating the sex and doing it more for emotional satisfaction than physical one, and is often the more unskilled one, while the Seme is the older one who usually sticks it in and who has a position of authority or power (of course, there are some exceptions to this). Which gives off pretty homophobic vibes, all things considered.
all yaoi readers seeing the title: 😆
them watching the video: 🤨😦😧😠
Not all, I'm pretty sure quite a number knows this.
literally me
Just say Fudanshi/Fujoushi
I- 🤐🤐🤐🤐 guilty
begone, fujo
wakashu: *shows scalp skin
old perv men: "I rise"
😂😂😂😂😂😭🤦🏽
Loool😂😂😂
This made me laugh
NAHH
when you talk about dull men's kimonos 5:15 I just kept thinking I have that outfit in Animal crossing new Horizons and I think there was a Wakashu wig in the older games but probably not in the new horizon if there ever was. But yeah, great vid and your jokes are super
"These boys never became men. They became, husbands." DAMN, that sentence made me roll of my couch my laughter. I'm going to tease my husband with this everyday!!!!
Two men in love: NO
A boy and a man do stuff: YES
Me:wtf *confusion intensify*
meme
off topic but nice pfp
Ikr idk how people think ... (!?)
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"LEt'S tOuCh pEniI"
SCREAMMM
I was looking for this comment HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LMAO I READ THIS WHEN HE SAID IT IN THE VID 😂
the voice he said it in too- im already deaddd
The way he said it is what sent me
OQIWUWHSGGSJAKSBXNAK
When you said, “like the art of sword making,” I thought you were going to say, “like the art of sword crossing.” XD
"So take my hand and let me lead you down this path through a magical forest of horny men." 6:17
This line hits so hard🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pretty bois
FIRST REPLYYY :D
I see you everyfuckingwhere
I see you everywhere but, I honestly did not expect to see you here.
Oh hey there, nice to see you again. 😅
Fancy seeing you here
That feeling when you realize this is what inspired Zabuza and Haku.
Nooooo
Oh gosh you just didn’t
OHGOD NO PLEASE 🤚😭
Stop it get some help
Of course it did...
this is so interesting thanks for this video
I gave a thumb up because the VDO is well put together, not too wordy and because for the first time in my in my life I am unspeakabley grateful for the location I was borned - obviously not in Japan. I repsected this nation so very much up until this footage.... now it's gone.
To be clear, this happened centuries ago. Every country had past practices that we would now consider immoral.
'Who doesn't love triangles?'
Any highschool students studying trigonometry.
Omfg why would you mention that 💀 that’s the forbidden word . Now I need advil 😪🤚
That word is forbidden
@@alpaca_6251 guys trigonometry is not forbidden. Permutation and combination is though.
No!, anything but that word!!
Calculus: amateurs.
"the art of eating an ice cream cone without melting on your hand"
a blonde haired boy on the passenger's seat flashed into my mind
im scared
uhmmm
Boku no pico?
Haha
@@yvainedafoe5492
Why...why?
I had succeed in banishing this anime from the surface of my thoughts and feelings.
And what you just said...
Causing a park to light up a neural pattern that was left unused for years, bringing back to life a conduit of memories that once carefully buried in the deepest of my subconscious
And then you were there.
Here you are
Making me REMEMBER THIS DAMN ANIME?????? 😭😭😭
sToP-
Wow, your since of humor is sooo good!
Very interesting and educational - and hilarious. I love your droll sense of humour and delivery, so entertaining! Thank you 😊