Cardo PACKTALK/BOLD - Four-way Universal Intercom Pairing

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
  • How to pair 2 Packtalks with 2 non-Cardo Bluetooth headsets so all 4 can connect and talk via intercom!
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  • @advnoobie6061
    @advnoobie6061 Před rokem

    Thanks so much- have a group ride coming up and there are mixed headsets- wish I'd found this first after wasting a lot of yesterday evening trying to link everyone up. Thanks again.

  • @RGB872
    @RGB872 Před 4 lety +2

    Really appreciate your videos. They are clear, efficient and right to the point. Thank you.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 3 lety

      That's awesome thanks for comment and glad to hear it was helpful!

  • @REDZONERIDER
    @REDZONERIDER Před 5 lety +3

    Gave you a shout out in my latest vid. Thank you for helping me make an informed purchase ☺️

  • @brandonbuell3519
    @brandonbuell3519 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for this video!!!

  • @daveztatorcuts719
    @daveztatorcuts719 Před 3 lety +2

    Great tutorial... May I ask if playing music on the Cardos and Senas are possible while all units are "bridged"?

  • @Hupi_1
    @Hupi_1 Před 4 lety

    Great video.
    How is the audio quality between Sena and Cardo?
    Like the HD quality between two Sena 20s
    Or like in a three way intercom or more worse?

  • @604G1K
    @604G1K Před 5 lety

    Great video! I have a question I hope you can answer. How would you connect two Cardo Freecom 2s and a Sena 10s to have a 3-way intercom? Do I connect the two Freecoms via the Bluetooth intercom, and use one of the Freecom's universal pairing mode to connect to the Sena? If so then how can I merge all 3 together for a 3-way intercom? What do I need to press on the Freecom? Thanks in advance.

  • @geandrieagenbag9206
    @geandrieagenbag9206 Před 5 lety

    Hi. To how many non cardo units van n packtalk be paired via Bluetooth. If I have 1 packtalk and 2 other brands can those 2 be bridged in to DMC using the one packtalk?

  • @KevinJones-ut6tg
    @KevinJones-ut6tg Před rokem

    My bother has a Paltalk Bold. Is there a way i can pair my phone or perhaps just the Bluetooth earbuds to his sytsem?

  • @johnny6705
    @johnny6705 Před 5 měsíci

    If you have any questions, write them below and I'll get back to you... NEVER 😂

  • @AlexanderTheGrape445
    @AlexanderTheGrape445 Před 10 měsíci

    Would this work with regular Bluetooth earbuds? I want to be able to talk to my pillion without having to buy an extra comm

  • @ccdevil773
    @ccdevil773 Před 3 lety

    My problem is, how about if there r 3-4 non cardo intercom, and 1 packtalk. How to connect these scenario ?

  • @rasimeone
    @rasimeone Před 4 lety

    I am riding with two sena riders. How do I pair with them.

  • @dannygriffin1012
    @dannygriffin1012 Před 3 lety

    If you had a group of Senas and you had Cardo. You would want the a Sena unit to pair with the my Cardo. Would I be able to talk with all the Senas since the Sena paired to me? Also would my one chance to pair to a different brand would be still left since he paired with me, right.

  • @yipgeewai7208
    @yipgeewai7208 Před rokem

    Nice sir. If one cardo can pair two non cardo?

  • @karkoor
    @karkoor Před 3 lety

    Will that also with freedconn ? Can a guy with freedconn connect to this group ?

  • @TimothyPersad
    @TimothyPersad Před 3 měsíci

    Dumb question. Could this work with a PT and someone's earbuds?

  • @iansian829
    @iansian829 Před 2 lety

    my cardo bold can not connect to parani a10 sena

  • @Justin-mz2jj
    @Justin-mz2jj Před 5 lety +1

    So if you're connecting a packtalk to say a sena via bluetooth, does that mean the connection range is only that of typical bluetooth before they d/c... not intercom range? If that's the case this would be ideal to bridge passengers and not seperate bikes right? As thebseperate bike would disconnect after let's say 50 or so feet away??

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      @Justin Westbay yes you pretty much nailed it!

  • @thwizzleNL
    @thwizzleNL Před 5 lety

    And of the sena headsets are out of range, will they automatically come back or do you need to pair them again?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      You woudn't have to re-PAIR them again, but you might have to re-ACTIVATE the intercom session once they get back into range. Basically, once they are paired together, they will (should!) remember each other. If you were to pair with a different headset later on, then it will forget this pairing and replace it with the new one. Hope that helps!

  • @WNzv7417
    @WNzv7417 Před 5 lety

    sorry, but if i right understand it can be one group up to 16 headsets (8 cardo + 8 sena)?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      Russell Barms Yes you nailed it! That is correct. 8 Packtalks in a DMC group could each bridge-in 1 of those Sena’s and your total group’s size would be 16 all talking. It’s not IDEAL (when all the headsets have DMC....that’s ideal), but it would totally get the job done.

  • @mofufu
    @mofufu Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video. But my bridging always get disconnected after 10secs or so. Any idea what is the issue ?

    • @wickytiosh
      @wickytiosh Před 3 lety

      Have the same problem. Disconnect after 10secons. Any idea how to sort it out?

    • @mofufu
      @mofufu Před 3 lety

      @@wickytiosh make the call from the non cardo unit instead from cardo.

  • @nickbaum7502
    @nickbaum7502 Před 5 lety

    Will this work with those off brand Bluetooth headsets as well?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      Yeah absolutely. Well, at least it SHOULD work with essentially anything (okay maybe excluding the $25 ones on ebay but even those I don't see why not...lol).

  • @kylearmijo6820
    @kylearmijo6820 Před 2 lety

    Can you help me plz!
    I have 2 cardo pactalks
    Followed your instructions to a T
    But it won't let me out of Bluetooth mode unless the sena bumps out, if that makes sense. So I cannot join all 3 only the sena or my other cardo.
    We do tree work and this is so important to us that these work. Will be so appreciative if you can help !

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 2 lety

      Please watch the "DMC Bridge Feature is Awesome" video I did, I think this will solve your issue! Basically, once you have one of the Packtalks paired to the Sena, close the intercom (to make sure the Packtalk and Sena are not actively talking to each other), then switch the Packtalk to DMC Intercom mode. THEN activate the intercom to the Sena - this should make it so that the 2 Packtalks and the 1 Sena are all talking to each other. Make sure to watch that video, I really think it will help. Good luck!

  • @sidsali1777
    @sidsali1777 Před 4 lety

    In your pairing and in DMC mesh the 2 packtalk's are voice activated how would I and my Sena communicate with the group? Do I have to push the phone button? Can you please elaborate. Thank you.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 4 lety +2

      If you're paired up like this video (Packalks are paired to each other in DMC and each Packtalk is using Universal Pairing/Cardo Gateway to "hack into" the Sena's mobile phone slot) then this would be the breakdown:
      -The Packtalks would talk to each just by speaking. They are instantly connected.
      -If a Packtalk wants to bridge-in the Sena unit that it's paired to, it needs to press the Intercom button once. That will bring that Sena headset in and everyone could hear/talk. The other Packtalk would need to tap its Intercom button once as well if you wanted to bridge-in the final Sena for a 4-way convo.
      -If the Sena wants to try and start the intercom instead, they would tap their Mobile button (because the sena thinks it's paired to a cellphone but it's not, it's paired to the Packtalk). This doesn't work as reliably, but it does work
      Hope that helps!

    • @sidsali1777
      @sidsali1777 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MotoGeekFreak It helps a lot thank you

  • @ck401
    @ck401 Před 4 lety

    after pairing how do you start communication from sena 20s to cardo? we paired the cardo on channel b and the sena on mobil 2. when cardo presses intercom the two can talk but what if the sena wants to intiate a conversation. trying to figure this out but cant find solution

    • @rawpwr7
      @rawpwr7 Před 3 lety

      Having the same issue. Did you figure this out?

    • @rawpwr7
      @rawpwr7 Před 3 lety

      Having the same issue.

  • @Spyder1960
    @Spyder1960 Před rokem

    Hi, don't know if you'll see my message but I'm trying to pair 2 Packtalk bold with 1 older Cardo G9 and it doesn't work.....I can connect 1 packtalk to the G9 but then I can't talk to my wife Packtalk and I can't hear the G9 anymore.....I don't know what to do next.....any help would be appreciated.....Thanks

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před rokem

      Here's how to get it done 👍
      -Get your Packtalk and your wife's Packtalk grouped up in DMC Intercom Mode.
      -Temporarily switch your headset over to Bluetooth Intercom Mode, and pair with the G9 on each other's "Rider A Pairing".
      -Switch your Packtalk back to DMC Intercom Mode (at which point you'll hear the wife immediately)
      -Tap the Intercom button on your Packtalk to activate "DMC Bridge". That will activate your pairing to the G9 and bring it into the conversation with the other two Packtalks.
      Double-check me on whether it's a single tap or a double tap of the intercom button to activate DMC Bridge, but that's for sure how to do it! Good luck and hope that helps!

  • @David-uq1iz
    @David-uq1iz Před 4 lety

    Can a cardo packtalk bold pull in 2 devices in the intercom?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 4 lety +1

      @David Each Packtalk can pull-in ONE headset into the DMC Mesh Intercom conversation. BUT, if that headset (the one that's being pulled in) can also be paired/talk to another headset simultaneously, then the Packtalk would be pulling BOTH of them into the convo (the one it's directly paired to, and the one that that one is already talking to). For example: If you paired a Packtalk to a non-DMC Cardo that was already paired with 2 other non-DMC Cardos, then you would essentially pull all 3 of them into the DMC convo when activating "DMC Bridge". It becomes a lot more limited when pairing to a non-Cardo though, and you may only be able to pull one of them in (the one that you're directly paired to) depending on that headsets capabilities. That sounds pretty deep but it's not bad....hope it makes sense!

  • @scuff433
    @scuff433 Před 5 lety

    Using the cardo pac talk what will this do to my phone connection ? Will I be able to talk to both bluetooth units and stay connected to my phone? My understanding is cardo pac talks only have two bluetooth capable channels

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      @scuff If you were setup in this arrangement, you would absolutely still be able to maintain your phone connection. The Packtalk does have two bluetooth connections for DEVICES (phone, GPS, mp3 player, bike, etc.) but your Intercom pairings are totally separate from that. The only time you lose a DEVICE channel is if another brand uses Universal Intercom Pairing to pair to YOU. If you're the one using Universal Intercom Pairing to pair with another brand (pairs to their Mobile Pairing slot) then they will lose a Device slot but you will not. Checkout my vid on "Golden Rule" of cross-brand pairing.... it will help this to make sense. Hope that helps!

    • @scuff433
      @scuff433 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MotoGeekFreak ty for your answer

  • @labrador3473
    @labrador3473 Před 5 lety

    Could you please tell me, why is packtalk and smart pack not pair on Dmc? They can't find theirselves

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      Hmmm. They absolutely should, just have to figure out why. Have you tried changing which one is the Group Creator? Or maybe the group is already full? If all else fails and you’re just not sure, do a Master Reset on both and they should pair right up. Hope that helps!!!

    • @labrador3473
      @labrador3473 Před 5 lety

      @@MotoGeekFreak thank you for your reply, we try both of side for creator of cardo, smart pack is creator than it's ok. Otherwise not possible. At the same time they have already both factory reseted. They're at latest version.

  • @joejones2406
    @joejones2406 Před 4 lety

    So I have a cardo packtalk bold, my friend has a Sena 30k(DMC sena unit), and my other friend has a Sena SMH10(a non DMC Sena unit). Can the 3 of us still talk?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 4 lety

      @Joe Jones So you're the smart one of the group😋!! Yes- you can, but you will need to make one of the Senas the "center" of the group instead of the Packtalk because there's 2 senas and 1 cardo in your case. See my vid on "Golden Rules of Cross-Brand Intercom Pairing", it will help a ton on this, but basically here's how to do it:
      - Pair the 2 Senas together like normal
      -Pair the 30K to the Packtalk using the 30k's "Universal Pairing" mode and the Packtalk's "Mobile Phone" pairing mode (this is how all cross-brand pairings work)
      -Once everything's paired, have the 30k open the intercom channels (since it has to be the hub in this particular case) and all 3 of you will be able to hear/talk to each other.
      Side note: If you can convince them to get a Cardo DMC headset, it will be MASSIVELY easier when you guys meetup and you can forget about the steps I just mentioned above. Good luck and hope that helps!

    • @joejones2406
      @joejones2406 Před 4 lety

      @@MotoGeekFreak Thanks a lot!!!

  • @THEM_ROBINSONZ
    @THEM_ROBINSONZ Před 2 lety

    Will you have to do this every time you turn off and one the head sets?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 2 lety

      In theory, as long as you don't pair with any other headsets in the interim, no you don't have to pair again

  • @JWmusic10
    @JWmusic10 Před 3 lety

    How would you do 3 Senas and 1 Cardo?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 3 lety

      If it's 3 Senas and 1 Cardo, I'd pair the Senas together using their normal Intercom Pairing, and then have ONE of the Senas use Universal Intercom Pairing to pair up with my Cardo (which would have to be in Mobile Phone pairing as this video describes). This way, all 4 of you could talk/hear each other. If it was 3 Cardos and 1 Sena, you would do the exact opposite. The rule of thumb is; whatever brand is more present in the group you're trying to pair up, THAT's the brand that's going to want to use Universal Intercom Paring to "hack" into the less represented brand. Hope that makes sense and good luck!

  • @Mr.Stroke0331
    @Mr.Stroke0331 Před 3 lety

    My cardo and sena both “pair” but I have no sound
    * update had to hit the top button on cardo to successfully open the channel after the pairing.
    Cardo black
    Sena smh10

  • @spiedey8
    @spiedey8 Před 5 lety

    Hello,
    While wearing my helmet, can I record my own voice via
    Bluetooth on an Android Device with Cardo PackTalk Slim/Bold? (Android
    device - Samsung Galaxy S7)
    I want to record and save the audio for later processing.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      I've seen some guys recording their audio by capturing the output from another headset (plug a recorder into the speaker output of the other headset). As far as capturing it on your phone directly from the Cardo Packtalk... I wonder if the App-store has an app that records from Bluetooth headsets? I feel like that would do the trick if it exists! Let me know if you find one, I'm curious now lol

    • @spiedey8
      @spiedey8 Před 5 lety

      @@MotoGeekFreak Just received a mail from Cardo.
      "We do not offer any units with voice recording capabilities. There are ways if you research online that people have done it, but nothing that we recommend."
      I found out that it is possible with iOS, but not possible on Android devices.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      @@spiedey8 Thanks for the update! How are you doing it with iOS...through an app?

    • @spiedey8
      @spiedey8 Před 5 lety

      @@MotoGeekFreak That's what i've heard. I forgot the name of the app, I do not own an iOS device.

  • @dlos1987
    @dlos1987 Před 5 lety

    What if you have a pactalk and a 30k. Both are meshed. Would the be meshed or bluetooth? I bought that 30k before buying the packtalk bold.

    • @jcalonsol
      @jcalonsol Před 5 lety +1

      As far as I know, the bridge functionality is both for a non dmc bluetooth intercom, and also for a phone call. I guess that, at least from the cardo packtalk perspective, you can use sena's universal intercom and connect the sena as the cardo's phone 1. When the sena opens bluetooth intercom, the Cardo can open the phone bridge into its dmc mesh. I would give it a try this way.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      Wow that's a great idea...have you tried this?
      That's correct- they will not pair mesh-to-mesh unfortunately, but it may be able to combine two different mesh groups (a Cardo DMC/mesh group and a Sena mesh group) using the Bridge feature of Packtalk. I'd love to try this...

    • @jcalonsol
      @jcalonsol Před 5 lety +2

      @@MotoGeekFreak Hi. No, I haven't but I have successfully both (1) use the universal Bluetooth intercom from other manufacturers (interphone) to my packtalk device as a phone connection, and also (2) bridge a phone call into a dmc group. So I don't see why it wouldn't work. But I haven't really tried it out. I hope it helps.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety +1

      Juan Carlos Alonso Lafuente Totally agree; in theory, it should absolutely work! Nice.

  • @akuratiinne
    @akuratiinne Před 3 lety

    is it possibile to pair 1 cardo + 2 non-cardo?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 3 lety +1

      There's a lot to this answer, but technically NO a Cardo (or any other brand) in and of itself cannot pair to 2 different brands, i.e. 1 Cardo using Cardo Gateway/Universal Pairing to pair to brand "X" and also to brand "Y". Any comm with universal pairing can do so to just 1 non-family headset. BUT, back to your question, if the 2 non-Cardo headsets are the same brand, then you could pair those 2 together using their normal intercom pairing and have 1 of them use Universal Pairing to "hack" into the Cardo (as explained in this video)...at which point all 3 of you would be able to hear/talk to each other. Hope that makes sense!

  • @Bryansky8
    @Bryansky8 Před 5 lety

    Good day, can you pair a Cardo with 2 units Sena 20S? Or 1 Cardo with 3 units Sena?

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      Hey @Bryan Bautista - here's a good rule of thumb: you can only pair directly to 1 non-family headset (this is the case with any brand that has Universal Intercom). Check out the vid I did about the "Golden Rule" of Universal Intercom it will help a lot with this. What you are looking to do is very do-able.

    • @Bryansky8
      @Bryansky8 Před 5 lety

      MotoGeek Freak tnx for this info. We’ll try to connect these units.

    • @Bryansky8
      @Bryansky8 Před 5 lety

      MotoGeek Freak i do have one more question. How do we reset everything? Both the CARDO’s and SENA’s? So we could start the whole pairing from scratch or just start everything fresh.

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 5 lety

      @@Bryansky8 Always a good idea!!!! To reset the Packtalk (see master reset video), turn the unit on, then press and hold all 3 buttons (Intercom, Mobile, and Media/Play) until you see a purple flashing light. It will then power off and you've wiped it clean. You can also do it from the Cardo Connect app if you want. On the Sena, there will be a little/TINY little whole on the back...find it. When it's powered on, find something to stick in there that click the tiny reset button inside. That will wipe the Sena clean (I've done that more than you could ever image on my Sena 20s). Hope that helps!

    • @Bryansky8
      @Bryansky8 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MotoGeekFreak thank you again for these informations. Have a good day

  • @davesilsbury5028
    @davesilsbury5028 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Motogeek, Brilliant video's, complete newbie here, could I use this method to pair 2 Packtalk bolds to 2 freedom 4's so that we can have a 4 way conversation....

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! Yeah man that'll work 100%. BUT, you won't use the method in this video because this is for when you're pairing to something other than a Cardo. Since you would be doing 4 Cardos, you would just pair each Packtalk to a Freecom (using normal Intercom Pairing method...I'd pair them up on Channel A) and utilize DMC-Bridge to get all 4 headsets talking. Sounds complicated but it's not, here's the steps:
      -Get the 2 Packtalk Bolds in a DMC group with each other (likely already the case)
      -Take Packtalk Bold "1", in Bluetooth Intercom Mode, and pair it up to Freecom 4 "1" on their Channel A pairing
      -Take Packtalk Bold "2", in Bluetooth Intercom Mode, and pair it up to Freecom 4 "2" on their Channel A pairing
      -Get the 2 Packtalks back into DMC Intercom Mode, at which point they'll be automatically connected
      -Tap the Intercom Button one time, on each Packtalk, to activate DMC Bridge and bring the Freecom 4 that it's paired to into (or out of) the conversation.
      Hope that helps a good luck!

  • @MrArunsikri
    @MrArunsikri Před 2 lety

    What if we have 3 sena and 1 packtalk

    • @MotoGeekFreak
      @MotoGeekFreak  Před 2 lety +1

      You'll want to pair the 3 Sena together using their "normal" intercom modes, then have ONE of the Sena use "Universal Intercom" mode to pair with the Cardo's "Mobile Phone" pairing (that's the way cross-brand pairing must be done). If it was the opposite (more Cardo than Sena) you would reverse this. Hope it helps and good luck!

    • @MrArunsikri
      @MrArunsikri Před 2 lety

      @@MotoGeekFreak thanks for the help.. one last question what's the range between cardo & sena ?