Cardo PACKTALK/BOLD - Private Chat for one-on-one Private Conversation
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2018
- Unique ability. Select anyone you want to talk to within your DMC mesh group for an (almost) instant one-on-one private conversation. Very cool feature.
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Amazingly informative. Clear and easy to follow instructions for this thing. Thank you!!
Awesome, thanks!
Clear explanation. I had no idea it had this feature.
thanks, It's one of my favorites for sure
First off, your videos are very helpful and I appreciate your time. I was wondering, if you're connect to 4 people, are you always hearing every sound they make? Or does one have to activate the intercom to speak to the group? Thank you.
Thanks! So when you have a group in DMC Mesh, even if it's just 2 people, the mic is essentially always READY to activate. You don't hear everyone breathing and all that (thankfully), but the moment you speak it instantly activates and they hear it. It feels like an open-mic at all times, but somehow they have designed it to block unwanted background noise when no human voice is detected. As an example, when I'm riding with a couple other guys and nobody is talking, my music volume is up and I hear nothing from them. Say that goes on for an hour....then...the instant i say something, music volume dips and they hear what I'm saying (without the need to activate VOX or push a button like normal Bluetooth headsets operate). Sorry for the long-winded answer but I hope that makes sense!
Thank you for the reply. I just had one more question. Is there a way to turn that feature off? I like to sing to my music while I’m riding, but I’m sure my brother doesn’t want to hear me jam out.
Lol yeah for sure. There’s a “Mute” feature that does just that. As of now it mutes your mic (so they don’t hear that singing) BUT it also takes you out of their conversation as well. They won’t hear you, but you can’t hear them either until you “unMute”, basically. Hoping they change that with an update...Mute my mic but I still hear them...that would be cool in my opinion.
Hey. You videos are extremely useful and resourceful keep up reviewing. I wonder if it’s possible to pair smartpack with bold? I know you’ve done a lot of things related to pairing different devices but I am just wondering about this specific pair. Thanks
Thank you! And yes, absolutely. The smartpack and bold are 100% compatible in DMC mesh 👍
Another great video. Any chance of doing a tutorial on music sharing whilst using the mesh (or bluetooth?) intercom, I just can't work it out. I could do it on the 30k (when it worked).
Steve West Thanks, hope it’s helpful! Good idea on the music share, I’ll try to get one going on that. In the meantime, I DO know that currently it can only be done in “Bluetooth Intercom Mode”, unfortunately. I hope that it will be doable in the far-better “DMC Intercom Mode” in the future though, that would be ideal and perfect.
I have the CARDO Paktalk Bold Duo setup between mine and my wife's helmets. We generally are generally listening to music (SirusXM) but, not sure how or what we need to do to to start an intercom conversation between the CARDO's. Is there a Voice activated feature so that when we want to chat we just start talking, muting the music, and when the conversation is over the music automatically returns until the next VOC conversation starts?
If you're using your Packtalks in "Bluetooth Intercom Mode": Use the voice command "Hey Cardo, Call Intercom"...that will start the intercom between you and the wife. To go back to your music, either of you can tab the Intercom button one time OR just wait for the intercom to time-out (I think 30 seconds of no talking).
If using in "DMC Intercom Mode": Just talk! Music will auto-dim to the background when either of you talks and go back up when you stop talking. Only thing about DMC Intercom Mode (as of this post) is that you can't share music so you'll each have to have your own music source. I"M TOLD THIS WILL CHANGE WITH A FUTURE SOFTWARE UPDATE...at which point just use DMC Mode and never go back to Bluetooth Intercom Mode. Sorry for the long answer but hope it makes sense!
If you are not the administrator of the group just a member, can you still instigate the private chat with another member within the group?? ie member to member?
great videos. Maybe you can help me with a problem I'm having since I bought the pactalk bold. When my wife rides she likes to listen to her own music. She gets all my wind noise and it changes the volume of her music and very annoying. So we don't use it. On my Sena we used the feature of no communication until we pushed the button, then pushed it to turn it off. Id there any way to use the bold the same way without the constant open mic and wind noise? Thank you
Hey @Kayak there's a couple of things you can do here. First off she shouldn't be getting much (if any) wind noise from you so make sure if you're using the boom mic that the little yellow arrow is facing your mouth and MAYBE even use that bigger sponge cover that comes with it. If you're using the wired mic, just make sure it's right in front of your mouth. Moving on...there's a setting in the Cardo Connect app under "Volume Settings" called "Background Music Level" (or something like that), make sure she turns that all the way up so her music doesn't sink to the far background when you're mic opens up (from wind or your voice). Moving further...if you're using them in "DMC Intercom Mode" (preferred mode) there's is a "Mute" feature you can checkout and would work but if you really want the same ON/OFF intercom capability that you had with your Sena, do this: Use your Packtalks in "Bluetooth Intercom Mode" (see my video on this). When in Bluetooth Intercom Mode, you will push the button to activate the intercom, then push the button to close the intercom. This might be the way to go. WOW that got long sorry about that but I hope it makes sense and helps out!!
I will probably see Cardo this weekend at the BMW Rally. I will discuss with them. I’m the guy who gave them the idea to add a plug to the G9 for wired earbuds.
MotoGeek Freak, for rider and passenger only, what do you recommend, DMC or Bluetooth? Which one will be easier on battery?
I'm coming from a G9. How do intercom calls start?
Thanks!
I recommend “DMC Mode” for absolutely everything. It’s easier, more reliable, and more enjoyable than Bluetooth (from any brand) in every way. Coming from a G9 you will especially like it lol!! I did the same thing. To activate intercom calls you just literally talk. The activation is instant, even if you haven’t spoken for 3 hrs., and it doesn’t chop off the first words. If you’re listening to music, it will dim/lower to the background the moment either of you starts talking. It’s great. Two things to consider: battery life is a little less (say 9 hrs instead of 13 when in DMC Mode) and the price. If you’re looking to not spend much, I would look at their Freecom 2 Headset. It’s designed for rider/passenger only but it is a Bluetooth headset instead of DMC. Hope that helps a bit and good luck!!
@@MotoGeekFreak and about voice commands? On the G9, I can say voice commands after activating the microphone when it's on standby. I suppose it's not possible on DMC mode, is it?
About pricing, the Packtalk(not bold) is cheap on Amazon now.
@@MotoGeekFreak Or if you can find one....get a SmartPack. They are now unlocked and can support DMC up to 15 riders (essentially they are a Packtalk now).....but spend the money....get the Bold. The voice commands are worth it!
Dan Mulkiewicz YES! If you don’t need Bold’s voice command (which I agree, it’s amazing) then Smartpack is a KILLER option while they last!!! Great point👍
Nice video, is there a way we can just mute our microphone while still hearing the group chat?
Dang. AWESOME question and I've been hoping for this ability for some time. As of this post, the answer is No. BUT, I'm hopeful they add this ability in a future firmware update...I think it's a must.
@@MotoGeekFreak I agree. I got the Paktalk Slim today and it is awesome! For those who complain about low volume I've found with the proper placement in my helmet its plenty loud, even with earplugs on the highway, but the ability to just mute our mic would make this headset even more amazing.
100% 🤞
My brother and I just bought the PackTalk Bold. We like being able to talk to each other when riding when we have something to say but also like to listen to our own music. Problem is the intercom stays on which forces one of us to push mute so our music plays. Problem is the only person that can reactivate the intercom is the one that hit mute. Example my brother hit mute but I want to talk to him. How do I ping/call/request to have him unmute so we can communicate?
In the Cardo Connect app, go to Setting, then Volume, and go all the way down until you see something like "Background Music Level" and raise that higher. Almost to max, actually. You shouldn't have to Mute either of your headsets (unless you truly want to ) when using them in DMC Intercom Mode. When you're not talking (and assuming your mics are in the correct position) the music should play at full volume. Then, the moment you talk, music dips to the background, then after about a second of no talking should go right back up to normal volume. Hope it helps!
Thank you for great tutorial video! But, how do you REMOVE the private chat icon; not just reassigning to someone else in the group?
@Kevin Ho I'm not sure I follow (sorry man!). The "Private Chat" icon will always be assigned to someone, but it doesn't mean you have to use it. The little lock symbol is just showing the person who would be reached if you DID activate Private Chat. Hope that makes sense....and does that answer the question? Let me know if not and I'll answer some more. To me this is one of the most awesome features of this headset. No other model from any brand can do something like this; isolate one person for an (almost) instant one-on-one convo. Love it.
@@MotoGeekFreak MGF, so every group will have ONE Lock icon for a private chat?
@@MotoGeekFreak What do I do when I try to reactivate another group, but it does not open? Just delete it and re-add members?
TIA
@@Kevin_Ho70 Basically every person in your Group can select whoever it is that THEY want to enable Private Chat with. You can have yours set to private chat with "Mark" (lock icon next to him), but "Mark" could have HIS set to "Jane". Each person is in control of their own unit and it's settings. As for different Groups, yes, you will have a Private Chat ability within every group. Whatever member in that particular Group that YOU would want to Private Chat with (because they too can set theirs to whoever THEY want). Hope that helps man!
@@Kevin_Ho70 That's a tough one because I have ran into this as well. Mostly when trying to activate a Group that has a lot of people in it (switching between smaller groups seems to be spot-on for me). If you run into this, personally, I just create a new Group and be done with it. BUT, as a tip, I've learned that it's best to not have multiple Groups with the same exact people in it (because you might as well just create one Group that contains all of them!). For Example: if I had a Group that contained me and rider "1", and another Group that contains me, rider "1", and rider "2", and another Group that contains me, rider "1", rider "2", and rider "3"......that's not good. You would just want the one group that contained ALL 4 OF YOU. Because, when it's just you and rider "1"...that's gonna work (he belongs to that group). When it's you and riders "1" and "2", that's gonna work too! Having one group that has everyone in it is the way to go.....basically. Hope that makes sense and sorry for the long read!!
hello i was wondering if theres a way to sync my contacts where when i get a call it tells me who is calling?
There's not...BUT... there's a setting in iPhone (i assume Android as well) that I used to get it to announce who's calling -- pretty important to me when you can't see the phone 😂. On iPhone, go to Settings > Phone > Announce Calls > and select Headphones. This way, it announces the caller in my Cardo and all is good. Hope it helps!
Great explanation buddy. Is there a way to still listen to the group chat and mute my mic so I can do some vlogging ?
Yes absolutely. Make sure you're running the latest firmware because they added a "Mute Microphone" capability on the Packtalk. If you tap the Intercom and Media buttons at the same time, it will mute the mic. You'll still be able to listen to the group chat but they won't hear anything you're saying (because your mic is muted). To unmute the mic and rejoin the conversation, just tap those same two buttons again. Works great. 👍
@MotoGeek Freak fantastic cheers buddy. Received an email from cardo today as I asked them the same question and they said it can not be done unless you are the host in the group 🙄
@@grossi46 you will find out which one is true 😎😜
Already have and you are the man 😁😁👌👌👍👍
Any idea if it is possible to use blutooth earbuds with a PackTalk/Bold?
@Jim Moore I know that you wouldn't be able to pair the bluetooth earbuds directly to the Packtalk (or any other headset model/brand), BUT, I wonder if you could plug a bluetooth transmitter into the 3.5mm speaker/headphones OUTPUT on Packtalk and pair the bluetooth earbuds to that!? Theoretically, that should work. Now I'm interested in knowing lol. Update if you try it!
MotoGeek Freak I don’t have any Bluetooth earbuds with a separate transmitter/receiver. But that might work
MotoGeek Freak Cardo agreed separate transmitter like you said would work.
Jim Moore Interesting. Yeah I’m curious to try something like that for sure...
If you are in private mode, can you still here other group members talk? Or does private mode affect receiving as well as transmitting? Does private mode also place the other device in private mode also so that only you hear what they say?
@LTVoyager when in Private Chat mode, you hear ONLY the person that you are privately chatting with. You don't hear any other member of the group and they don't hear you. It also places the other device (the one you're private chatting with) into the same mode. Basically, when activated, it's JUST the two participants who will hear/talk to each other. Couple of more things:
-Each person has the ability to open and close a private chat
-The headset is still using the strength of the "network" to reach the Private Chat person (the person you're chatting with can be beyond your units range but if still uses the other headsets in your group as signal repeaters to get to that person).
-Just because your Private Chat is set to "Steve" when activated, his (Steve's) Private Chat might be set to "Jessica" when activated. You each can assign whatever person it is that YOU want to be able to reach privately within your group. Wow, long answer, sorry! Hope that helps out and good luck!
@@MotoGeekFreak (trying to foresee the future, lol) if i put the wife in private chat, and she says "I wanted to hear what they were ranting about, stop putting me in private chat" can she cancel the private chat or do i have to do it? Basically forcing her to stay in private chat with me lol
For better or for worse, she can indeed cancel the private chat. Lol
@@MotoGeekFreak thank you, i assume all this works for the slim also right? I didn't think you wanted to redo the videos for the same thing
conwatcher29 Exact same for the slim and you're spot on 👍
How did you give you Packtalk the name “Black” in the Cardo Connect app?
When you open the Cardo Connect app, tap the little gear in the top left corner to go to settings and at the very top you'll be able to select and change the name. When everyone changes it, it DEFINITELY helps with understanding who's who in your DMC groups. Hope that helps!
@@MotoGeekFreak thanks man! BUT - how did u changed the other units names? blue, yellow....
@Shay Shental I had to pair my phone to each unit, change the name, then move on to the next. Basically you're phone has to paired directly to that unit, open the app, and change the name. The unit remembers/keeps the name you gave it (unless someone else pairs their phone with it and changes it, of course). Hope that helps and makes sense! 👍
I like the idea of being able to choose a rider using the app if the phone is bar mounted, but have yet to find a pair of gloves that will actually work with touch on my iPhone
Sean Donnelly Look into “deer skin” gloves (those work oddly enough), OR, I’ve seen a lot of gloves lately that advertise that they’re “phone friendly”. Definitely seeing more gloves out there that let you use your phone with the glove on.....thank goodness...cause it’s annoying as heck having to take a glove off!!!!
MotoGeek Freak I will have a look at some deerskin gloves, though I tend to prefer the armored type gloves and the deerskin gloves I have seen so far have been the touring types. I have a pair or Held Steve gloves that are kangaroo skin, I haven’t tried those. But I don’t wear them that often because again not armored. I have plenty of touchscreen friendly gloves that work well with my Garmin Zumo, but they just don’t seem to want to work with my phone. It might be because I have a glass screen protector on the phone? I hate to take it off to try and find it still doesn’t work. I do have an older phone around without the protecter though. I will experiment with that and also see if I can’t find some armored deerskin gloves. Would like to be able to use that App as well as REVER with the gloves on :)
Is there a voice command for private chat?
No, unfortunately, but that would be awesome!!
I want to chat with cardo
total garbage intercom .. don't waste you money
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