Disney Marvel PANICS Over M-She-U Fatigue
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2023
- Disney Marvel's Phase 4 was nothing short of a storytelling and financial DISASTER. After a year of spamming massively reshot content, the once-mighty MCU is experiencing some performance issues. In a recent interview, Kevin Feige denied there would be any "superhero fatigue," but anyone with eyes can see there is M-She-U fatigue.
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Entire video summed up in one sentence: "Its not superhero fatigue, its bad movie fatigue!" Well put!
Nope it’s superhero fatigue. Plus it’s also that it’s a hard task to beat what has come before. Tell you one thing though - these infantile men children like this guy and Drinker have some serious women issues.
@@MrMarketingGuy Thx for setting me straight. Idk why i thought i could form my own opinion. You are truly a blessing.
Sadly it’s not just movies, but TV shows, one of the main reasons phase 4 was such a chore was because of the D+ shows
You mean lmaooooooo
That’s what I was thinking people are getting their hopes up and get disappointed after they watch it
Love how all these "what went wrong" articles focus on everything except what's gone wrong.
They aren't blinded by wokeness. They know what the problem is.
They just think they can deny it long enough and we'll be dumb enough to fall for it
Jokes on those "journalists" then. Thanks to YT and it's creaters that don't swim around in leftism, we've known the truth since 2015.
Not really anything new, "wokeness" is their exploitation, just a greater fraud to abuse, extort, and redefine arbitrarily.
They don't even have the argument of earnestly believing something, nor of authenticity.
They think their authority can never be wrong, they think people are dumb for not following or being lead by anyone else, let alone heathens with their own thought.
Check who owns the article companies, it's the same parent companies as the show producers. Outrage gets clicks and ads pay, couple that with subscriptions that people have already paid for and they're double dipping. 90% of US media is owned by 6 mega-companies.
Speak a lie long enough and it'll become the truth. Don't allow them.
They’re never gonna say it’s a woke fatigue, or a m-she-u fatigue, or bad writing fatigue, or Disney + fatigue. They’re gonna always blame the people who don’t watch it first.
I must admit when X-Men came out, I didn't even realize how diverse the cast was and it seemed natural, in fact it was the fact that no one single mutant could handle any and every problem but the team would cover each others weaknesses in situations that made it a dynamic team up!!!
This is a good point! At least in corporate speak, what makes diversity good is the fact it brings in people from different backgrounds and abilities. This results in people and teams who come up with unique and innovative solutions to problems. Because you don't have the too-similar thought processes that comes from everyone being a similar demographic. It seems Marvel is largely missing that point. They're bringing on women and minorities, and presenting them as simply better than their white and male predecessors. This fulfills the "letter of the law" of diversity, namely, changing up sexes and skin colors and such. But it misses the "spirit of the law" of diversity, namely, presenting new perspectives that bring new ways to more effectively solve problems.
It was about CHARACTERS who had goals, dreams and desires in difficult situations . Not look how many white men are not in our universe and tokenism. @Llewis Lower
@Creation Bros Zone I hear ya, and feel your frustration...I miss the days where what is was, was what it is!
@@llewislower9767 facts
@Old fashioned feller there's nothing wrong with strong female characters. They just have to be good ones.
When I was a kid, I never thought I would celebrate the end of Disney. Now I look forward to it. Why the stockholders haven't fired the board and all of upper management or at the least sued them out of existence is beyond belief. Start with a forensic audit of the company.
I believe it is because they're not a business strictly for entertainment, but for indoctrination. They're being funded from companies in the dark to push "the message."
As long as people don't fund them, eventually they will all go belly up and it will stop.
When you find out what peculiar tribe has absolute control over shareholder capitalism, with funds like BlackRock and Vanguard, and start seeing the same pattern every single time you’ll start supporting Ye
Because it was not because of money
They won’t go down that easily you gullible child. There‘s too many shills to support them
Disneys been around for 100 years. They will never end
I loved Steven Dorff’s unapologetic rant on why Marvel needs to leave Blade alone and how the MCU has become a total dumpster fire. Nice to see not everyone in Hollywood is tainted by wokeness
And he's 100% right. They already nailed Blade in the original movie.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp and they are already killing him. Isn't that the movie where the director and lead actor are trying to get out of their contacts?
No sounds like lead actor has saved the whole movie from becoming a disaster
Yeah well, Dorff is not anti-woke. Anyone that saw his recent series, where he was a California Sheriff, would know this. It's that or he is a hypocrite because that show was HELLA WOKE.
@@LosLS2 Its probably just him being passionate about a big movie that he was a part of. He knows they nailed it, and that they will just screw it up if they try again.
I don’t think there is “superhero fatigue”, but definitely people are having “woke fatigue” in this space.
Thank you. If they would actually go back to producing GOOD comic book related films and shows instead of catering to the woke then there wouldn't be a problem. But no, they only care about being activists and pushing "The Message" 24/7.
There definitely is superhero fatigue on top of woke rejection, it's just that the latter is in a different order of magnitude bigger.
People are definitely having woke fatigue in just about every area of society. The pendulum always swings back, and it's just reached it's maximum height.
@@thelegendaryklobb2879 nope there isnt , speak for yourself I can give you names and addresses of collectors with hundreds of thousands of pounds of comics and figures who by no means at all will ever experience superhero fatigue , thats a weird out of touch generalisation , fans are tired of parody and wokeness , theres so much content of literally every genre from murder mystery to science fiction and high fantasy , its currently been homogenised for mass consumption ...
@@WeAreInYourWall You also speak for yourself or a subgroup of people. I've heard many people complain about the amount of superhero movies being made and wanting for other genres to be more present.
And this is a former comic fan speaking (from the pre-woke infestation era) that was ok with superhero movies until the concept of the "MCU" started to reek too much of greed, lazyness and wokeism for me
They are trying to control culture instead of expressing what the culture wants
In its current state I give Marvel a D+ ...get it😉
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Best line of this video:
“Peter Parker is SpiderMan and Miles Morales is Miles Morales.”
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The successful formula USED to be: respect the original source material, respect the fans of the original source material. That's why Phases 1-3 were so great and why everything after that sucked.
That's true, and so frustrating....like.....you ALREADY have the stories.....the characters, the back stories, the character development, how can you keep fucking this up....?
Honestly, after Tom Holland not being able to create webs as spiderman I quit watching.
Unfortunately we have now come to learn that the secret sauce of the MSheU is crushed nutsacks...for 'modern' audiences.
@@WAGGLE666 I've never read a comic book in my life and I know that webs are synthetic. Oh I read Watchmen.
@@WAGGLE666 yea that was just i think only a thing from the movies with tobey's spiderman with the organic webs
I was re-watching the Punisher jail fight scene, and all I found myself thinking was "How did we get from this to She-Hulk"
I loved the 1st season of the Punisher show on Netflix, but kitty scratch face in the 2nd season pretty much lost it for me
Liberals
and all i am thinking is how the heck you can compare 2 different production companies, writers and characters?
Because people are scared to speak up about anything.
I was going to ask which movie, but I see that it's TV you were speaking of. I am too much of a geek or too old. Either way, have fun in the comments. Be Blessed! 😘
Seeing that closing moment "What did it cost?" Hits so hard seeing how far everything has fallen
I used to be a big time Marvel fan. And now I haven't watched a movie in years. Great stuff guys.
Wait.., ok you don't like Marvel, so you don't watch it, but you haven't watched Marvel in years, and yet you have an opinion and dislike toward it, right?
Okay, so why don't you like Marvel? 🤔
@47279J I thought so... 😂
@@yubnub420gamingthey don’t like it because of the more recent stuff.. so they decided not to watch it anymore. clearly they still hear the same things are going on from when they stopped watching so they haven’t returned. it’s not rocket science
@@DaloWrld so basically what you're saying is that, they have no opinion of their own, and instead of thinking for themselves, they wait and listen to some douche on the internet tell them what to think and feel. Basically whatever non-factual regurgitated crap this content creator spews out, you guys eat it up like candy without doing any research or even watching something to tear it down yourself, or maybe even enjoy the film/show. 🤦🏽
Man, talk about some simpleton low IQ Bullshit. 🤣😂😂
@@yubnub420gaming no i’m saying that they formed their OWN opinion based on films they didn’t like from the past and so they use that opinion as their decision not to view the new stuff Marvel puts out.. kinda simple
The fact that these people don't see their own demise in front of their eyes is apalling and frightening. Wokeness rot their brain.
People at the top are approaching retirement and don't really care about the future of franchises they bought into, they're looking for short term money through outrage. The clickbait articles that defend them are owned by the very same companies and ads + user data through cookies pay them well.
We're seeing the fall of hollywood before our eyes
Wokeness & social justice marxism bullshit are now destroying our entertainment since 2016
Kevin Feige loves to hear himself talk. MCU fans love to hear him talk to.
At this point it should be obvious its not about money, and its all about politics. They know they'll' lose their shirts, but in their minds its worth it to "social engineer" their dystopia
“Captain of Titanic, why are we sinking?” “Let’s be honest. The first half of the voyage was flawless and I’m very proud to be a part of that. I’ve spoken to a lot of Sea Captains and lots of ships sink, so it’s not just us. If we can keep focusing on moving forward on this endeavor, I believe we can adapt and tweak this trip to reflect the diverse expectations of all our passengers for hours to come.”
Love it! "Some people are saying that the water around my feet is a bad thing and shouldn't be here, but they're just showing that they have really outdated views on buoyancy."
That is a great way of putting it.. lmfao
"Is our ship sinking? No. It is the ocean that is wrong."
This was perfection
🤔😏😁😆😂🤣
Here's how sales are doing at comic shops now:
Two weeks ago, I showed up at my local comics store FIVE HOURS EARLY on a SUNDAY (because I didn't know their weekend hours of operation by memory yet), and they STILL allowed me inside to make a (likely much-needed) sale.
A big part of this whole problem is the fact that years ago movies and shows were made for a target audience. Nowadays those markets just aren’t big enough for the behemoths that these companies have grown into. So unfortunately, this is the result, they create movies and shows based on certain metrics that they feel will garner the most viewership while upsetting the least amount of people.
However, in this case, they are upsetting the Normie’s many of which are at an age where most of their discomfort goes unheard, since they don’t even use social media outlets to complain in the first place. Meanwhile, all of the blue haired SJW‘s are pretty much for the most part failing at life, and have nothing better to do then go online and complain via social media to anyone who will listen how bad they have it, and why it is the entertainment industry that is causing all of their troubles. From idolizing women and objectifying them thus creating a false body image, to problematic males, who have dominant masculine behavior that crushes their feeble attempts at anything successful in life.
You hit the nail on the head
@@jakehero95 thanks. I wish I wasn’t right because this is the one caveat of a capitalist society run in a democratic government. There’s no honor among thieves and companies either die out or continue to grow at all costs, even if that cost is alienating the very customers and fans that made it successful in the first place.
@@leonardceres9061 yeahh I wish you weren't as well. The culture that's been created pushes ppl to put profits above morality where the only metric for success is how much you can net. The concept of a free market allowing for poorly run companies to fail so something better takes it's place sounds good on paper, but it takes *way* too long for such changes to happen if they do at all with bail outs and regulations etc keeping them going. I wish I had the answers for how to fix and improve things but I am not knowledgeable enough. For now I'm just gonna keep speaking with my wallet and encourage others to as well.
lol She-Hulk is a literal dig at you...... thats how they view you. these ppl are like politricks, they'll say and do whatever will give them the numbers while never following through
"you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain...." *FUN FACT* for End Game Feige actually planned on having Captain America get beat to death during the film and have Hulk leap his green azz right off the battlefield at some point due to him being overwhelmed by the situation which would then have the movie end w/the female Avengers coming together and save the fallen men but instead we all got that wonderful cameo at the end telling us the future of the franchise.... what does this mean you might ask??? Feige was ALWAYS going to NUKE The Marvel Cinematic Uni and demoralize all the men in it to appeal to a broader audience so I feel its time to stop romanticizing this clown and id him for EXACTLY what he's always been..
"broader audience" 😆
WoRd !💥👌
@@stxrobstar 🤣exactly🤣 don't you concur that seeing Steve Rodgers getting his head bashed in would have brought SO MANY ppl of different groups and backgrounds together in one big projectile vomit event???
@@billybadass3056 Yep.
My only wish is that someone, anyone, will point out this broader audience of which they speak and get them into the cinemas....
Other issue is that I'm pretty sure that Favreau was a fan of Iron Man. Whereas, the people working on the movies today seem to outright hate the characters.
Man, well said. I mean, yeah, that is exactly what it seems, doesn't it, "Lepke 1979"? they hate. How did this ever start and get away with?
that's so true, they don't hire people who are fans and understand what they're doing anymore. so now everything looks like bad fanfiction written by people who hate the source material.
Very true, you could see that with FATWS. It was obvious they hated Bucky; he got his ass kicked in every fight, usually by women, and they spent more time on Sam's sister's boat than on his issues.
Fatigue? Hell, I'm not even giving them a chance anymore to fatigue me. I watch these reviews only. They don't get my attention past that nor any of my money. Fatigue is caused by a bad relationship and I just walked away, changed the keys, and blocked them.
When I was a kid, I enjoyed saving up my quarters to buy comics. Storm became the new leader of the X-men by beating Cyclops in battle even though she had lost her powers. That made me stop collecting the series and shift over to the Avengers. Back in those days you had that option. Comic book collectors even wrote their feedback and they were posted at the last page. Marvel listened. I did eventually started buying the X-men again. They would remove writers and artists and find ways to clean up the bad stories. When Disney took over, all of us at Midtown Comic had a telepathic connection with the words "It's over for Marvel". Anything Disney touches they over-saturate the product and when they start putting in their Ideas, it turns to Fecal matter.
There is never fatigue of good content. There is massive fatigue of poor content.
That's not even remotely true. I don't recall any of the Spiderman movies being "bad". Do I ever care to see another one? Hell no. Eight movies over four actors is too much. Let's see something new. The same goes for vampires, zombies, and Bat-Man. It's possible to beat a dead horse, even if the content is good.
@@AMortalDefiant Well the box office receipts (I.E. the consumer base) disagree with you as the last Spiderman movie was the most financially successful one. Seems very few others are fatigued with Spiderman as long as it remains good. Make a few garbage movies and they would be struggling to get to even half of what the last film made, maybe even a third.
A fatigue of youtubers crying about everything
@@AMortalDefiant that is the difference of casual and diehard fans.
There is no superhero fatigue. There is fatigue for inclusivity and a long list of bad content.
I will gladly see 8 or 5 movies about the same character with different leading actors if the content and the show is good.
But I will refuse to see 10 movies with the same leading actor if the content and the show is bad
Fatigue means Tired/exausted. A French word 🇲🇫
There's a big difference between "Faithful Adaptation" like Peter Jackson and "Malicious Butchering" like Kevin Feige.
But honestly we do have a superhero fatigue. Where are other type of movies? Drama, comedy, romance, chick flicks, mysteries, noir, crime thrillers? Man I miss them so much.
“M-She-U” 😂😂😂. The assessment is spot-on! I’ll even add the kowtowing to the Asian markets into this conversation.
I remember that scene in Endgame where every single female hero comes together. I was like ummm weren't half of these people across the battlefield a second ago. It was so obviously forced that it instantly pulled me back from whatever attention I was paying to the movie up until that point. My brother and I looked at each other like what the hell?
The shitty part of that scene was if they just had all the women do what they did without that cringy fucking stop and pose, noone would have even blinked. We all know those women belonged there for the most part.
@shadowpoetrk That's true. But they had to be absolutely certain that people knew it was the woman's time to shine. I have no qualms about female heroes being heroic. The issue is that it's all obviously forced at this point. 🙄 They don't know how to make it seem natural.
@@thedailypounce Yeah, that is why it was so cringe.
Honestly? I thought Endgame was so bad, I considered it one of the redeeming factors.
That was so cringe.
The MCU fatigue is completely self-inflicted.
They more committed seppuku than faded from natural causes.
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Seppuku is honorable (atleast in medieval Japan) so I'd call this a su1cide b0mb. Killed themselves and then turned the fans away..
GOTG 3, Across the Spiderverse and Quantumania are the three most anticipated movies of this year... Where is the Marvel fatigue?
@@LizardThe Depends on who you ask. Many are indeed sick of the comic book movie genre and hoping it stops. Everything comes in cycles.
@@LizardThe as someone who’s watched every single marvel movie made, I have no interest to see any of them, spider verse might be ok but that’s Sony not Disney.
Haha I like how you used the Drinker's voice when you said "the message". Better crossover than anything Feige has in the works. 10/10
I was fatigued after End Game, and couldn't get back out of it because it just drained more of me instead of inspiring me to care.
I didn't watch it yet, and not Infinity War either. Time travel plots are awful, with very few exceptions.
@@mirceazaharia2094shit take. Infinity war and endgame are both fantastic.
Super Hero Fatigue is an absolute myth. I will NEVER get tried of tights, capes and gadgets but I will ALWAYS tire of terrible writing.
And communism
And and feminism.
I'm getting tired hearing Kevin Feige's voice.
@@ShyGuyInKilt Current year "feminists" are those IN NAME ONLY. The movement was supposed to give women EQUAL rights and EQUAL wages to men, but current year "feminists" changed the definition of "equal" to that seen in George Orwell's 'Animal Farm', with themselves as the pigs.
@@longtsun8286 There was never a time when feminist were fighting for equality. In the beginning, they were fighting for rights to vote without the conscription, without bucket duty without any of the societal sacrifice that came with this right that man had always endure. It was always sleeping powder for the masses this... "equality" part.
the reason Thano worked as a character was that, even though he was a psychopath, he wasn't doing everything for himself. in his own twisted way, he thought he was making things better. and he was willing to pay part of the cost of doing it himself.
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contrast that with the M-She-U characters, who only ever care about themselves and are constantly making other people pay for their stupid decisions.
What they did with Thanos was the nail in the coffin for me....
The duality of man. 1/2 has all the responsibility put on his shoulders, the other half takes all the credit for herself. That seems to be the message I'm getting Louise days, and I'm rather sick of it. Both on the macro scale and the micro, this divide and conquer mentality that just is permeating every level of society is sickening. Any idea how to get out of this rat race?
All the best villains think they're in the right, and they're doing something good.
MCU Thanos was less outright evil than comics Thanos was, but comics Thanos had his own faults. I'm sure if they remade the MCU today they'd have left him as a simp for Lady Death.
Plus thanos wasn't woke, and trying to smash the patriarchy.
Trust me it's not a superhero fatigue causing the bad ratings 😂
You positively nailed it.
Look, I am 60 years old and grew up on comics in the 60’s (ironic, no?).
You killed Ironman, Captain America, and pussified Thor…you may as well have killed him too.
When I was a kid Captain Marvel was a dude not Brie Larssen (sp.).
Right now I am SO disinterested in the Woke Superhero Genre that they have created I am never going to see another MCU movie.
They destroyed something that took almost 100 years to create…and they did it in a heartbeat.
I will retire back to my memories of the Superheros in the comics being and doing things as they were created to do.
Goddamn them…Goddamn them!
Thank you for the opportunity to let an old-timer chime in.
Cheers. 🇨🇦
I feel for the animators, I work as a software engineer, the scope creep is real, “hey you know that thing we’ve worked on for a month and it’s about wrapped up for next weeks deadline, yeah we want it to be entirely different now, like 80%, have fun.”
The fun part about being a sole proprietor is I pull out that agreement, and quote em for the creep, no free work, an emergency due to failures on your end does not constitute an emergency on mine.
The Life of Pi people were put out of business by this kind of bullshit. But they sign the contracts. I've had arguments where I've said "don't sign contracts that will destroy your business" but there's always people who try to justify it.
@@chaos.corner animation should be billed like a contractor. If you have changes that need to be done middle of a project. Well that will cost extra for all those extra man hours.
This would make Hollywood work on complete scripts rather than waterboarding people with content.
That's why I, as an illustrator, charge by the project based on the initial agreement. I show my clients progress along the way and if they want changes we negotiate what that means. I've refunded monies more than a few times due to irrational changes along the way.
@@CannonRaw That's what I was saying. Most IT companies worked this out back in the 90s. You can't be on the hook for work indefinitely for a fixed fee. It may be a niche subcategory but VFX is still IT when it comes down to it.
@@steveouk90126 The only way to be. I suspect the people who agree to those unfavorable terms haven't really had much experience with really troublesome clients and go in with the mindset of wanting to make the customer happy. The word is gradually getting around to not work for free.
About Nick's eye: Fury says in Avengers, if I remember well, that the last he trusted someone costed him an eye. Which implied that he was betrayed by someone close to him. Imagine my shock when it turned out it was a cat that pierced his eye...
Edit: Fury says it in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
And now mcu is your cat? 😅
@@ichauch9333 Argh! I don't want to talk about it.
That was so very very stupid, he lost his eye to a cat scratch.
@@samkochel6990 DUDE!
@@samkochel6990 It was no ordinary cat.. so 🤷🏻♂️
what marvel needs is a comic accurate and a character accurate movie
Lol wrong. Hawkeye looks ridiculous in his comic accurate outfit.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418hawkeye has multiple outfits that don’t look dumb.
@@bradley8258 His mcu one still looked like shit.
They could have at least given him some kinda of mask.
Funny. In German "Feige" ist translated to "a fig" or "cowardly". Just like "Kevin ist Feige" would be in English "Kevin is a coward". And in Germany "Kevin" is THE most joked name.
This might be one of Gary's very best videos to date. The editing was especially on point, seamlessly exposing all the crap thrown by Feige with laser precision.
Boy! The editing and production values of these Nerdrotic videos get better and better! Kudos to those who put this episode together. Keep up the good work, Gary and team!
The perks of diversity
@@dudeguy8686 lol
This was a great video. Can’t like it enough
Slight agree and disagree with Gary on the fatigue.
It's not just bad writing fatigue but superhero fatigue is a bit real too
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I don’t know, if they didn’t do a bunch of the crap they’re doing, and do things fans like I could keep watching them. As it stands now though, I’m done with Marvel, and DC.
You also can’t make movie based on metrics because metrics are taken in a vacuum because people say one thing online another thing in real life.
Been to every MCU movie midnight showing (now early preview day) with the exception of black widow of course… This is the first time not buying tickets on opening weekend. 🖕 Disney! I’m out
At this point I think I love how Kevin is screwing everything up just so that I can listen to this man and critical drinker. THIS is my therapy
It's the only real entertainment that comes out of this flaming dumpster of a situation.
I'm having some good laughs while watching my childhood violated.
I have no fatigue of laughing at Disney losing money.
They still got plenty to burn, won't bee seeing Disney filing for bankruptcy anytime soon.
@@dcfavorite GOOD 👍 That means they got more money to burn making woke shit to makes us laugh at.
Stay woke, stay broke 🤡🤣
The passing of Chadwick Boseman was a huge loss. Such a charismatic leader and excellent actor, and I’m sure they were setting him up to lead after Endgame.
Growing up, I was a big fan of X-Men the animated series. It was so well crafted. The story of mutants was universally relatable. Media abstractly taught me life lessons, touched on difficult situations, found intelligent ways to tell stories. So much so that when I've rewatched "Kid's movies" from the 90's I realized how well they told & crafted stories that adults and kid's can enjoy & appreciate. (Pretty much anything created by Don Bluth or Written by Roald Dahl) The Brave little toaster, James and the giant peach, The never ending story, Jumanji, Hook, The secret of the Nimh, Sword and the stone, black cauldron, beetle juice, Alice in wonderland, Rock-a-doodle, Captain Planet, Thundercats, He-man, Spawn, Matilda, The BFG, Ren and stimpy, courage the cowardly dog, magic school bus, Dexter's laboratory, pinky and the brain, rocko's modern life, Ah! Real monster's, goosebumps, are you afraid of the dark, pee wee's playhouse, she-ra warrior princess, Flintstones, the Jetsons. So many more I won't list them all but they had such creative range. So many ways of telling stories. So many types of creatures, unique worlds, weird things, macabre things. I loved how we used to embrace those things. Nowadays everything is so bland or Shallow live action version's filed with nonsense & hollowness. I miss the Era of creativity, of animated series, of things that made us utilize our intelligence. Artistic depictions of the Human condition that connects us on a deeper level. No matter what kind of character, creature, specie's they are. I seriously don't understand who can enjoy these modern live action movies. Filled with so much disconnected CGI. Cheap cop out writing, acting, storytelling that is treating our entire audience like they are 2 yr olds that just need a pair of shiney keys waved in front of them for entertainment... it's a very bland & soulless way to entertain... Seeing how things are nowadays, i feel so lucky that i got to grow up in the 90's. Back then I never could have guessed that things would have changed the ways they did. It was such a great time to be a kid. The world seemed to have so many creative ways kids, teens and adults could all enjoy themselves. Entertaining movies with practical effects. Animated movies/shows galore. If they used CGI it was used intelligently. I really miss the Vibe of that Era. The creativity that came from that era. I really hope we find a way to reconnect with it because the world seems like it really needs it right now. I mean just look at the aesthetics compared to now? Things have somehow become so bland, bleek, and minimalism that it doesn't even make since. Most Old house's/building's/unique shop's are gone. Interesting oddities like drive in movies, indoor fun zones, arcade's, magazines that came with a demo disc to try out game's, blockbuster/Hollywood video, McDonald's had N64's, you could preview music before buying it, they had great kid's toy's, Roller Rink's, Garbage pale kid's card's. You get the point. I want to reignite that feel sort of like Retro-Futurism or that Y2K Vibe compared to this current Dystopian pessimism that seems solely focused purely on capitalistic agendas. Our Quality of Life should be better than this.
The amount of spin and cope going on with Feigie and Hollywood in general is priceless. Great video, keep it up!
Feigie has to be the biggest BS artist out there. Keeps trying to convince us that what we see, isn't what we see. - that he's a "good director" and that the MCU isn't pure leftist propaganda ( isn't that Hollywood's entire premise since day 1? to spread propaganda and social engineer?).
They have to keep up appearances.
They obviously can't been seen and heard in public saying "we're fucked"
Disney's reaction: Brought to you by Pfizer Boi.
This is like watching the captain of the Titanic intentionally steer straight into the iceberg and then try to convince everyone that it’s all the iceberg’s fault.
There's no M-She-U "fatigue", but an M-She-U rejection.
It's way too woke, bad scripts, bad acting, just rubbish.
"Waaa waaa waaa, I don't understand anything and I want to whinge about it for the clicks!" - Nerdrotic
Definitely have M-SHE-U fatigue. Stage 4 was awful.
Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Star Trek supported solely by men for decades! How did fat blue haired land whales get control of Marvel? We don't need women for comic books......LOL
Problem is yours orthodox Christian mentality thanks God it is not in india
When WandaVision was still coming out, I could have never seen this coming. After the Infinity Saga, and following it up with a terrifying “sitcom” mystery, I thought Marvel was untouchable.
@@nuh-uhbro765 for me, they kind of lost me with the last movies -- too many irreversible incidents, haha -- but I could still acknowledge they were solid. Everything after WandaVision though, ugh...I feel like my face is being shoved into a bucket of whiny tiktok posts and between every dunk they're showing me pictures of Marvel characters. No creativity whatsoever.
Hahahaha phase 5 says hi
So, if not for the wokeness, I would still be watching every Marvel movie multiple times. I definitely don't have superhero fatigue... I definitely do have wokeness fatigue.
agreed. i used to see all the pre-endgame movies 5-6 times. now i think 10 times before watching any Disney marvel project. I can't believe i was actually gassed that Disney got most of marvel characters rights so we could see them all together, it's just sad
Woke means conscious so I'm guessing you don't know what woke means.
@@ichigokurosaki1081 That is one definition. Woke started as a pro-black, anti-discrimination statement for people who were "awake" to their surroundings and to the discrimination going on around them and the ways by which that discrimination could be actively fought through political means. However, it then became a synonym (used mostly on the right) for runaway leftist activism pushing back against anything and everything as "injustice", even when those things not only didn't deserve to be pushed back against, but were preferable from both an individual and a societal standpoint to the alternative.
If you're thinking "woke" just means "conscious" in the context of this video, I'm guessing you don't know what woke means.
@@cassiecaradoc2070 you're white I'm guessing? Tell me more about black plight and struggles while using a word out of context like I said before
@@ichigokurosaki1081 You're right, I don't know anything. My skin color makes me utterly incapable of opening a history book. I also haven't seen literally every piece of media produced in the last 3 years beating me over the head with every single thing that the left terms an injustice. I am woefully and utterly ignorant because I lack the appropriate melanin content to process such things. Or whatever.
They totally missed the point of the OG comics.
That is to stay up to authenticity as much as possible, the blueprint was given to them way too long ago.
They only need to portray it in films, shorter yet precise without compromising the value of the contents.
No other hidden agendas, no personal messages from anyone outside the characters themselves.
Thank God you are alive. You are bringing to life the exact issues my friends and I shake our heads at, while no longer watching movies we used to love and fly across the country to watch together in the theater. Bravo, sir.
Just a reminder, it was never Kevin Feige alone that made the MCU a success. It was him, Avi Arad, and Ike Perlmutter, and they primarily only handled the business end of it.
The success on the creative front came primarily from Jon Favereau, Joss Whedon, and the Russo Brothers.
Of all those people, only Feige is still involved with the MCU, of which he nearly has full control over, and its current state is a reflection of that.
Very good point. Favreau is a creative genius and deserves more recognition.
@@blackfox1320 Yes I wish Favreau could do more marvel stuff. And star wars for that matter.
@@blackfox1320 not for Boba Fett that was garbage
Avi Arad deserves to go down with him
@JJ Banana None of them deserve to be in charge of Marvel, not Arad, not Perlmutter, not Feige. They're businessmen with virtually no creative instincts or genuine appreciation for Marvel Comics or for superheros and comic books altogether.
I don’t believe they are panicking. They will push on with their agenda-even thought it is clearly failing now.
Their "agenda" is to make more money. If they thought that pooping in a river and filming it was going to make them money, they would do it. It's called capitalism. They don't have any other agenda. All the rest is just marketing. Really bad one at that, but marketing nonetheless.
To what end? Disney has stock holders to answers to eventually …at some point common sense must prevail no?
@@amfitness5598 they still answer to ESG
@@amfitness5598 As the long as the 13 families control 95% of money in the world and tells the various corporations what to do.... It is all for the the Green New Deal/One World Order or whatever it is being called now.
I feel like there's a mountain of cherry-picking here to make a point. Comics (and most print media/content: newspapers, books, etc.) have been in decline LONG before the MCU was a thing. Video games based on movies have a long history of under-performing, as have movies based on video games. Neither of these are really a reflection on what Marvel/Disney have been doing, per se. We have to keep in mind that these movies are intended to tap a *VASTLY* larger audience than just hardcore comics fans. Half the newer characters in these movies - I'll admit to never having even heard of them. So, it's more important overall to see what *everyone* will find appealing, rather than solely make every character a carbon-copy of what is in the comics to pander to the hardcore fans. Furthermore, even within the comics, characters vary wildly between writers/artists/story arcs.
The revision process is something that happens constantly in any creative pursuit, especially in gaming and movies. That Marvel does this so much is not as much an indication they are doing anything wrong aside from the fact they have such a frenetic release pace, and that these revisions much harder to do than they would normally be. This is why gaming companies have so much "crunch" time. The VFX/artists in those industries deal with this daily. You're conflating moving quickly, with doing something "wrong".
People can very much get fatigue from anything. For me, personally, I don't care how much everyone raves about the newer Spiderman movies; after a EIGHT movies, and FOUR actors, I couldn't care less if they ever make another Spiderman movie. I'm over it (the same with zombie/vampire anything).
The issue with the female leads isn't so much that they exist, but that they don't allow them to have story arcs. They pretend being strong (only for women) is an inherent trait, rather than the fact that people push past their weaknesses to BECOME strong. Just as soldiers are not inherently fearless; they train relentlessly to push PAST that fear. Modern superhero movies are afraid to ever show a female being perceived as "weak" or ever getting beat up (ESPECIALLY if the antagonist is a male), acting as if that disempowers the character. In reality, that gives them the potential for the story arc - for them to go from defeat to success, like they do with male superheroes. Writing 101: have your characters suffer incredible punishment/defeat early on to get the audience to CARE about that character. We'll, that's not allowed for female superheroes, which prevents people from having empathy for them, or caring about them. They go from undefeatable goddess to undefeatable goddess, with no character arc. They are lifeless shells, rather than people. People don't start out perfect.
I think you're a little too obsessed with the idea that everything is "woke". When everything that happens is woke, you just have confirmation bias. The sun rose? WOKE!!! When that becomes the blanket excuse for everything, the narrative is definitely skewed. Something being woke should never be the baseline expectation; just as we don't charge people as guilty before evidence is presented. While there certainly is SOME woke stuff in the MCU; it's not the sole reason everything happens.
Hey Disney, stop with the she! Movie goers and streaming customers are over it! Don't cast color, cast talent. Don't hire color, hire talent to produce/write. Thanks. Stop reshoots!
It’s not fatigue, it’s disgust.
Shit writing.
Gender politics.
Fatigue
Constant reshoots are what happen when you hire writers, directors, actors, etc etc based on the boxes they check rather then by their TALENT!! Who ever could have known??!!!
I think that representation is a good thing to an extent. Writers have to relate to their characters to make them believable. For example, if you're going to write about Christian✝ characters like Hell Boy, Daredevil, or Night Crawler, it might be good to have a Christian writer on the team. That makes the characters more relatable and believable. The problem comes when that's the ONLY reason you hire someone.
If I were wealthy I'd pay to get a movie made that stars a "Badass Girl Boss" who tries to do all the girl boss tropes we see like punching a man who is 2 feet taller with biceps bigger than her head only with realistic repercussions.
I’ve been calling Kevin Feige a hack for nearly a decade now and nobody else listened.
I just rewatched 'Rambo; First Blood' for the first time in maybe 30 yrs. I found myself grinning through the whole thing. Actually gave me a more thorough appreciation for Sylvester Stallone. It's the perfect hero movie;
Hero is wronged, Hero fights the wrong, Hero faces the consequences of the fight.
Then something occurred to me as the credits rolled at the end.
Not 1 female 🤧
There are two women briefly at the beginning. Rambo meets the wife and daughter of one of his army buddies before learning he got cancer from agent orange.
tHaTs BeCaUsE yOu'Re MySoGiNisT!111
a great movie btw
You really need to read or the book first blood it is a master piece. It goes on a different route though. Both the sheriff and Rambo are portrayed in a more positive light. They go deep into the psychological damage Rambo faced and all the problems he faced coming home. They also go into the cop's life about his wife leaving him, and he gave Rambo several chances to just leave. The cop even asked Rambo you gonna get a job, we got a open house down the street? Honestly I love the book even more then the film but the film is really good.
Wrong. The pig he kills was a she.
watch Tulsa King
That's the best Brie has looked in any Marvel role.
That’s not a very high bar. 😂😂😂😂
Wheel of Cheese Larson.
I didn't see any planks of wood anywhere...
Stop it. Get some help. Brie never looked, sound, or even I'm guessing felt good. M SHE U is done, put a fork in it.
So I was at a wedding in 2018, my friend married an Indian girl and it was held outside Bristol. I meet this random dude and we're chatting, shooting the shit, similar careers and both geeks. His wife comes over, Asian girl with an English accent. We had just both agreed that Last Jedi wasn't up to our expectations and was a let-down. She immediately jumped in with this cursory, dismissive line, "Yes there's definitely Star Wars fatigue, absolutely". Now my combative, eager geek self wasn't quite ready to get talked over, and I made my point as strongly as you ever can in that kind of social situation "I hear you, but for me, this is the only Star Wars movie I didn't like, and we're talking about a franchise that existed for decades without any movies, there was huge appetite for more Star Wars. 3 movies in and people are tired of it??" She suggested that of course some of the themes wouldn't be for everyone and some people definitely struggle with diversity (at this point I knew I was talking to a human representation of a serpent), so I just chuckled and said "No, no honestly I just loved the cowboys and knights in space and I'm a huge fan of samurai, so losing out on lightsabre battles just made the movie far less fun for me" She then was relatively incredulous and said but there are lightsabre fights. My response: "There's a fight with faceless, nameless stooges, with no build up, and Rey and Kylo dispatch them quickly and with ease. And they're using tonfas or sais or something, a lightsaber is a sword. And then Luke vs Kylo, it's pointless because he's not even there, and so they never clash blades. I wanted duels with weight and meaning and stakes. Just didn't get what I wanted"
She was really unhappy at my disagreeing with her, and said something fairly curt like oh well, like I said it's not for everyone. Turns out this brash, obnoxious Asian-English girl was a producer for the BBC, and not just an opinionated and domineering troll. When I was told after I was amazed, and I'll go back to it: "Star Wars fatigue". In 2018. I swear she bleated that crap like a manifesto directive! Now I'm not suggesting conspiracy at all, what I am saying is these companies quite likely have collaborated to produce this woke-ass crap and use the same expressions to legitimise each other.
There is no Star Wars/Superhero fatigue. We don't get fatigued and bored of entertaining things. We get bored because something sucks and is boring! I will never understand exactly how thin skinned and pathetic these dopes are that they have to complicate things so much!
Good movie: happy fans, lots of money!
Shit movie: Bored/fatigued fans, nooo money.
If the "What Went Wrong?" meeting wasn't worried about being Hollywood Correct then maybe they might find the real issues that is killing them.
I wonder if Stan saw things going this far sideways so quickly before he passed. It was awesome that he got to see it all thrive again after the 90's killed the industry. Now we all get to watch it all go down in flames again, and only in a matter of a few years, freaking sad. 😥
Yeah I reckon, I'm still grieving over punishers terrible retcon and removing his iconic skull symbol.
I’m sure he did, he saw lots of woke comic arcs perform poorly. Carol Danvers was always an activist character and no one bought it cause it was terrible. So yea Stan was very familiar with woke crap failing.
Well he died having his company stolen from him and losing everything he heald dear so, sadly, I would guess the answer to that question, is yes.
The old man got bless. He need not to see this degenerating son.
even if he did he can't do anything about it. you think he had control? nope. he didn't own Marvel comics neither the IP's. he was just a worker. when you work for Marvel, DC, etc you don't own anything. the characters, stories, and IP's belong to Marvel, DC, etc.
As someone who can't always devote a few hours for the streams and longer stuff, I love these short ones!
I told my friends years ago the MCU was a passing fancy . Why do we need to smash all these superhero’s together when the premise of comic books to movies was all about focusing on ONE superhero?
I’m just worried that some 95 pound woman is gonna get ideas that she can go toe to toe against a 350 pound linebacker and win. Lol.
Imagine had they just followed the actual stories the fans desperately wanted and how much money they would be rolling in? Rather push their ideologies and shaming the fans.
Excellent, Mitchell, excellent. IN....ANY....OTHER...FOR...PROFIT....BUSINESS OR CORPORATION.... the process and plan would ALWAYS be to give your customers WHAT THEY WANT and yeah, they would be rolling in the dough! Isn't this what the NFL does? Isn't this what some gun companies do? Isn't this why the Mandalorian series was great? Isn't this why for the most part (not all ) the Aliens movie series was great? ISN'T THIS WHY HERSHEY'S CHOCOLATE BARS are successful. I am not trying to be funny on that last one - Hershey's chocolate bars. ITS ABOUT giving the customers quality and what they want. NO WAY would Feige ever get hired at Hershey's or hired as a General manager of a football team or be a CEO of the Chrysler Corporation, Trucks division. He would never be a bank manager. because he is a liar and worships "fads" and political correctness OVER REAL PROFITS and customer service!!
@@lukeyznaga7627 seems even all those companies are going woke. However I feel so much money has been lost recently because the customers have voted with their wallets you are seeing the companies take a step back. They listened to the loud minority while the quiet majority have spoken with money and to these big corporations its the bottom line.
@@mitchellfunk4781 Gawd I hope you are right, Mitchell. I want to think that we have power to make others change by our wallets. but i have seen the stubbornness and arrogance of those in power. I REALLY BELIEVE, that until DISNEY LOSES YET ANOTHER billion dollars, that they are NOT going to change. They need to lose a bit more, before investors and other Board members say, "ENOUGH", to Woke.
I think it was John Lassiter who was asked how Pixar was able to make movies that were successful across such a wide demographic; his response was that they make movies that tell stories that they want to hear. It’s sad to see the arc that philosophy took as Disney’s wokism wormed its way into their brains.
Great guy... should never have got into 'hugging'
every superhero will be gay soon...Peter Parker's aunt is now gay...and I think someone said that Robin is now sexually confused and having a crush on a male character.
@@wolflover968alphamale8 No way, they made Aunt May gay now. In comics or a new show to be coming?
@@wolflover968alphamale8 last I heard, Robins got a boyfriend and so does Superman's son lmao
@@esrever777 This is old news. It's from last year, at the very least, if not from 2021.
Remember when Michael Bay killed the explosion phenomenon with all his Transformer movies? That's what it feels like with Disney, DC, Sony, and Amazon. We got to greedy with these cinematic universes, the companies went, "F- it" and just shoved the movies down our throats whether we want them or not, to placate the *victims/whiners* and now, they don't register anymore. We just don't care; I get that change is important, but when you put all your eggs into "the message" basket, making inclusiveness an *exclusive* force instead of balanced, and leaving character and story to stagnate and wither, we will move on, just like with Star Wars, Harry Potter, Jurassic Park, Halloween, or Terminator.
omg.....that montage at 2:51 was brilliant! Wow. Spot on!
you know things are going rough when you rather read or write your own fanfiction than watch the actual shows and movies.
Use that creativity, young lady. We need new voices like you to be the future and turn things around.
Amen
I think almost all of us would rather read your fanfic than endure Disney's horrific mockeries that are still inexplicably called "the real thing."
My first fanfic idea evolved into a full-fledged novel, and my first fanfic idea is nearly ready to put on paper. Creating something can be a wonderful use of your time.
Funny how you can consume 'compromised' content and can't help but feel it's just bad fan fiction with an obscene budget... then you see some fan online who isn't even a creative come up with a pitch that's somehow simultaneously vastly superior and more faithful to the source material than the official offering yet still reined in enough to actually be commercially feasible, at least on paper.
From one writer to another, keep fighting the good fight, and may your projects bring you satisfaction if not fame. Sometime the little guy has to show the money makers (if they're actually turning a profit) that creative integrity is a thing.
70 years of great storytelling and great characters from the comic industry and the movie studios squeeze out an unending stream of crap.
70 years ago Most white people were racist cunts and we’ve been making excuses for them ever since. Saying dumb crap like “ that’s just how it was back then”. Foh.
@@blaque5582 dumb take, but not surprised, current year an all. How’s that sociology degree working out for ya genius?
It's blatantly obvious that they're pushing for a big change, and it's probably not one were gonna like.
The TV industry has become less about entertainment and more about indoctrination and dramatization of all current events. Which is a key sign of fascist propaganda.
It will end when they start to lose enough money, this clearly hasn't happened yet. There is enough people outside of CZcams that go to watch these movies, so the movies makes money and Disney orders more.
Mentioning Gone With the Wind and Disney Plus in the same sentence is just psychotic
They haven't had a plan since Stan Lee Died the MSHEU didn't exist when he was alive
6:36 you see, Fiege, the difference is that Pixar is an animation studio, so it’s all in one package. They make animated projects and if the movie doesn’t sell tickets, they don’t get paid. Marvel studios has been using free-lance VFX artists to build and rebuild entire sets over and over again because of a problem with the writing and directing. So instead of trying to make it all work in one go, they just go “eh, will fix it in post” not realizing how much work that will actually be, and whether or not it will look any good. Of course I’m generalizing here, but it’s definitely the vibe I got from black widow and it’s really the vibe I got from MOM. It doesn’t help that films like Thor love and thunder and shows like she hulk have the audacity to mock their VFX.
i swear, i had more fun watching these videos than anything Disney and Woke Hollywood released in last 3-4 years.
*than
The M-She-U is NOT facing fatigue, that implies at some point it worked, NONE OF IT HAS WORKED, it's been a disaster from the beginning. This isn't fatigue it's rejection.
"I'll give you 200 bucks for all of them". Sounds like Marvel buying characters from their old freelancers.
God I love critical drinker and “the message” and just the way he says it with that echo lol. Gets me every time.
I know. And a couple of weeks ago I watched two old movies (Spaceballs and Alien, btw) and the thing that struck me about both of them was the lack of _The Message_ which definitely sits like a dark pall over almost every movie made in the last 10 years, rendering them practically unwatchable.
"Yes I can definitely smell shiet.."
The whole “updated for a modern audience” is what really pisses me off
Fans liked the original because of its story, when you alter that for your own personal ideals, then it’s no longer what the original represented
What weird is every movie getting reshoots is just horrible. Just absolutely horrible. So like.... How bad was it before the reshoots.
I commend you on your choice of music. Well done, Gary!
I think people are confusing “inclusivity/exclusivity” and “lack of diversity” with preferences. It’s okay to cater to your primary demographic. It’s also okay to create different, strong characters to cater to a new audience sometimes. You just can’t completely shun or demonize the entire audience that made you the company that you are. In my opinion.
That is plain logic. It shouldn't be just your opinion but it seems that THE MESSAGE is more important than anything
"Inclusivity/ Diversity" is a euphemism for "erase straight white men."
Personally, if the new "preference" takes away from who the character really is, it's despicable and sad. Hey, I KNOW! Let's make Superman lose his cape and replace it with a feather boa, because everything is gay now. Peter Parker now has a gay aunt, even though she WASN'T before...i thought a person was born gay...I didn't know they could switch it on and off like a lightswitch. OMG! That means I can be filthy rich and buy Disney and GUT IT!
And what are you going to do about it? Nothing. Cool.
@@wolflover968alphamale8 Look how upset you are over some fictional characters 😆 🤣
Absolutely on point Gary. Thanks for all that you do and keeping things on perspective
I'm so glad he said that about Feige and Endgame, though I would go a step farther. I would say I think the entire MCU would have been better served if Disney just did a soft reset after Endgame. Do a couple movies up to No Way Home, and use No Way Home as a soft reboot and start a new epic story. You don't have to worry about continuity with actors choosing to move on (captain america) you don't have to somehow weave the last decade of movies into the succeeding storylines, and you don't have to constantly worry about somehow raising the stakes higher and higher than Endgame, because they're all new stakes instead of successive stakes.
I loved everything up through Endgame, even some of the rougher films, because it felt cohesive and like there was an endgame coming. Right now it feels like there's no plan, and Endgame was such a perfect explanation point to the entire series that everything is going to be compared back to it. Let it end at Endgame and be a perfect end cap, and go on with something new and different without all the baggage.
The problem is in the beginning Marvel were special they actually cared about the characters and weren't the standard Hollywood studio fare.Of course then they got bought by Disney and that was dismantled piece by piece until they're no different from any other Hollywood production , then add in all the political/social messaging and it just a mess.
You know, when the MCU started, they would put out 1, maybe 2, projects a year. I can't help but notice there's a direct correlation between the dramatic increase in the number of projects Disney is crapping out and the dramatic decrease of the quality each project displays.
Velma and frosk are the first signs of the apocalypse.
I quit going and watching marvel shows from theaters to TV. Endgame was great until the spider man scene with capt marvel " she's got help " and all the women got into the scene.
Marvel? Chimi chuck it in the bin. You’re in the pirate zone now Disney.
That j Jonah Jameson bit took me out😂😂😂
2:43
Lmao, what is that image? 🤣😂🤣
It explains a lot with the vfx quality has gone down significantly in the new movies.
How difficult is it to just make a movie following the most liked comic books stories?
Its already written, just film it and it will print money.
In Endgame when the ladies all stood around the gauntlet, I thought “oh here we go..” who would have thought it would get so much worse.
The balance between male and female leads should have been evened out more.
One of the most Cringiest scenes i ever watched. The crap was too forced...
The problem I think VFX has to render a very complex scene so they come at the last moment and want to change everything , so the artists have to redo the work because an idiot does not understand the complexity of the project And the artists have to work until late hours , because if they don't do it, they'll be left behind on the scheduled date, and yet another person comes and wants new changes after the deadline .And I have a certain suspicion that artists are not being rewarded enough to have to deal with this stress and scoundrel.
They aren't. They are getting less pay than any other VFX job for triple the amount of work. Why do you think they are trying to unionize right now?
I work as an 3d modeler and animator. well i do much more simple stuff compared to MCU. All i can say is Rendering in high quality takes time modeling, Sculpting, Texturing takes effort. A Buyer Changing their creative decision after 90% work is done is nothing but a nightmare.
@@JunayedMahin Yup. It takes me few days just to render a photorealistic walking model. Not to mention thousands of props, cameras and dealing with light issues. People just don't understand how tiresome it can get just to make a simple 60 secs animated frame. While we spend the long nights working, these woke idiot goons sleep comfortably, and bitch the next morning about how genius and perfect they are to criticize our work.
Well they need to have better contracts, or form a union.
Keven has made himself the enemy of joy as we knew it!
They continue to make women more powerful than men but refuse to make an all-female superhero movie for the same reason they won't make an all-LGBT superhero movie; because no one will watch it. So they mix it all in with the heroes you actually want to see, who can draw an audience while force-feeding this nonsense down our collective throats.