Mariko Commits Seppuku - John Almost Kill Mariko | Shōgun Episode 9
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Mariko try to commit seppuku to protest Ishido for not letting her go from the castle. Anjin second Mariko to kill her, Ishido gives her permit and let her leave.
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the way Mariko looks at John after he steps in and tells her he'll be her second is SO HEAVY. it's like she realizes he finally understands why she's doing all of that, being respectful of her choice even if he does not agree to it. their chemistry is beautiful
Its not because he finally understands now, he always did understand he just didnt agree with it one bit and argued against it. Its just he finally accepted her choise instead of trying to change her mind, trying to get in her way. He understands the conundrum she's in, and will willfully kill the woman he loves because that is what SHE needs. He finally put her before what he wants.
respect the death of the one you love is not respect, is stupidity. there is nothing after death.
@@tenkaikazama I wouldn't call it stupidity given how different they viewed life and death. but it was definitely a matter of acceptance, and Anna Sawai herself said it was the most romantic thing in the world for Mariko, to be seen and understood that way.
While so much is different from the book, this isn't necessarily untrue to the spirit of the book; in the book, John himself at one point attempts seppuku which is only stopped by Omi.
@@tenkaikazama How can u be so sure there's nothing after death?
The fact he decided to become his second means he truly loves her. Despite not wanting her to go thru commiting sepuku, he’d rather be the second then allow her to feel like she’s damned to hell. It’s quite poetic for him to do it considering her earlier quote on how a flowers beauty or purpose is when it falls “flowers are only flowers when it falls”. Her whole life after her father’s death is wanting to die, but now her death is given purpose and meaning to her and to those she cares about.
Yes, truly romantic moment
Subtle thing about this episode: those with a keen eye would spot that Blackthorne has been sword-training. Everything about his stance and grip and posture has changed from the first time at the beach with Yabushige, where he couldn’t even grip the sword properly. In this episode, he even performs a manoeuvre and kills someone who was trying to kill him.
Good on him for putting in the work.
fake sword training of a fake samurai.
@@Lalit02Dhanwani Just google "WIlliam Adams, Miura Anjin"
@@Lalit02Dhanwani "fake samurai" you do know samurai were military nobility rather than pure swordsman, samurai was a title which can be granted by a lord to anyone. So he is a real samurai in the show. Why do garbage people like comment when you don't know anything.
@@br0ken_107 Weebs be thinking that you need to be pureblooded japanese to even touch a katana.
@@Lalit02Dhanwani Blackthorne's character is based on William Adams, who was in fact given the title of samurai with no more sword training than we see here in the show. Don't be dumb.
The point is that he was willing to do something he was totally against for someone he loved and be haunted by it forever. That is different than trying to convince her for what he himself wanted.
I think she respected it immensely.
It is a stunning scene. One of the best of this show. Her bravery and her loyal heart makes her a true samurai heroine. Whithout John She would have been left alone in this heartbreakingly heavy situation. No one was there to secont her untill John step forward to do it. Their nonverbal communication was very touching. Both Anna and Cosmo deservs a bow for this scene. Great actors!
her fake seppuku shit was disgusting she never meant to kill herself she cry for seppuku 16 years and never did anything until it was time when she know she isn't going to survive she put a show .
@@Lalit02Dhanwani ishido burner account lol, she always wanted to die and she willingly put herself in front of the door for that reason
@@cupofjoe.88 this is fiction story
there no ishido nor mariko.
it took her 16 f***ing years to do what she wanted when she know there is no way she would live so she die dramatically/
@@Lalit02Dhanwani OMG you so angry ... OVER FUCKING TV SHOW!!
The way they shot how Anjin helps Mariko to get up by offering his hand and her accepting it looks almost like a marriage ceremony with guests looking at newly wed.
For those who is not familiar, the first act of Seppuku is extremely painful if done properly in the guts (instead of the heart). The second act liberates the samurai from the pain. The last psychological chess move was not giving Mariko the second act to instill fear on her. She apparently went with the Seppuku anyway. Blackthorn understood that and volunteered to be the second act.
Japanese legend said that some defeated samurai opened up their stomach, took their guts out, and chop them to pieces in front of the winning party before leaning forward for the second act. That action terrified the winning party and served as the samurai's last fighting effort.
Female samurai seppuku was always a stab in the throat anyway, not the gut slicing.
"Let it from your mind."
He tells her to unburden herself of the fear for her own soul, that he understands his true task is not just to ease her death by being her second, but by risking his own soul for hers.
When you risk you own soul in hell so your waifu goes to heaven
｢散りぬべき 時知りてこそ 世の中の 花も花なれ 人も人なれ｣
自害する時、膝を縛る作法がしっかり描写されているのに感心！！
I agree! Historically, it was done so that the lady would die in a dignified pose. When she tied her knees together, I knew this was being taken seriously.
細川ガラシャ
作法も何も女性は切腹しないし介錯されることもありません。
ものすごく少ない例であるそうですがそれも不確かです。
As messed up as that was
It was romantic in its own way
Its shows that despite how much he hates seeing her kill herself he still stands and with her
And she knows how he feels and appreciate him for that
Its so good to not have read the books 😂😂😂 the intensity of these episode is just off the charts 👏👏👏
Same, also it wasn't a great idea watching this before going to bed. Now I can't sleep. lol.
The wait for the finale is going to be torturous!
You definitely should read the book after the show is over. The show skipped a LOT of things. When Mariko died in the book I was heartbroken, their love story is much more complex and sweet there.
@@VDA19 nah I want to see cinematography, wanna hear scores, wanna see acting, books don't have these so it's a pass 🤣🤣
movie capture just a small percent of what is conveyed in the book
@@factspoken9062 so what, books don't have cinematography, scores, acting. I wanna see raw emotion tears dropping, voice cracking ,I don't wanna imagine these things I wanna see and hear them
広松の切腹があったからこそ、このシーンの緊張感が跳ね上がった
It is unlikely blackthorne would perform his job as second well. But he saw it as sparing her damnation. So even though she may not die quickly, in his eyes what is that to eternal torment.
He can swing a sword, hes just unfamiliar with a katana
A similar thought occured to me as well. Especially since such clear importance is put on the rosary she gives him
He's definitely had some training with a cutlass and has combat experience, as you see ample demonstration of later in the episode. I'm pretty sure the toughest thing about this for him is not the physical act of cutting off her head itself. It's the anguish of who he has to do it to.
would be a hell of a thing to do for the first time. i can't imagine being the one to do that.
Id be concerned it wouldn't be a clean beheading which would be awful for John
Madame knows a lot about suffering. To ask for help from a man who for the first time almost held a sword in his hands, we saw how he, having met Yabushige on the shore, held it
She didn't ask him, he was the only one willing to do it because he couldn't watch her suffer.
He's held swords before, he's an English mariner, of course he can use a sword. He just doesn't know the Japanese style of fighting. But he can carry out a slashing blow easily.
Strangely romantic which is wild
It is the most romantic scene in all of there scenes. Breathtakingly beautiful unconditional love
i cried like a baby the first time i saw this.
He's not her second in the book. Yabu is, and despite being an absolute a-hole he wants to be perfect for her which is cool because the honouring of their traditions transcend their relationships.
I love this version more. Yabu second her is so false when he in fact betray them all. It would just be an act. While this version was the ultimate romantic scene amongst this series John and Marikos special bond.
@@mirikaku5811 this was to make fans support suicide and make it look romantic., her fake seppuku show.
@@mirikaku5811 That makes more sense in the show sure, but the book spends far more time on their Romance and Yabu is more complex too.
Japanese honor and loyalty back then is almost absolute! You earned our respect our japanese brothers!
Creepy
She's a woman
But japanese were also rapist and murderer s so no real honor
I"ve never read 1000 pages in 2 days before this book. Thanks Mr. Clavel. And this is the best movie based on the book.
Is the book really that good?
Once❤ you start reading SHOGUN, you can't put it down@I_SuperHiro_I
@@I_SuperHiro_IBooks are always better than filmations.
@@I_SuperHiro_I yes its absolutely amazing, but very long so be prepared for a long read, if you decide to read it.
@@theprocrastinator12 I’m in hotels 4 nights a week, so I’ll have plenty of time. I just ordered a copy :)
What many Japanese worry about is whether this drama will reinforce misunderstandings and prejudices. So, we comment on parts of fiction that are significantly different from reality. It would be fine if all the content of the drama were fiction, but since this era, the amount of records has increased rapidly and the facts are becoming more detailed. On the other hand, Japanese cannot help but feel uncomfortable with dramas based on original works that contain a lot of fiction and a little historical fact. William Adams, who was the model for John Blackthorne, is a real person, but after the historic battle (Battle of Sekigahara) in 1600, he was favored by Ieyasu (Toranaga) and became a hatamoto(direct vassal of shogun). It's not like he was active before that battle. I would like to clearly recognize that fact. It may be unavoidable to have flashy or cruel directions for entertainment, but Hosokawa Gracia, who was the model for Toda Mariko, did not commit suicide to protect her faith, but instead had her family vassal kill her. Therefore, she remains the tragic heroine of the Sengoku period. In this drama, Mariko says "suicide,'' and then she says "kaishaku,'' so even though she asks for "kaishaku'' as punishment for breaking her faith, this is out of Japanese common sense. In other words, Japanese think that such "suicide'' is "actually seppuku,'' and are confused by this strangeness. I understand that it was difficult, but I wish they had expressed "kaishaku'' correctly, just like "seppuku.''
多くの日本人が心配するのは、このドラマで逆に誤解や偏見が助長されないかということです。だから、事実と大きく異なったフィクションの部分に対し、コメントするのです。ドラマ内容全てがフィクションであったら良いのですが、この時代から、記録の量がぐっと増えてきて事実が詳しくわかってきます。これに反し、多くのフィクションと少ない史実の混じった原作のドラマに、日本人は違和感を覚えざるを得ないのです。ジョン・ブラックソーンのモデルとなったウィリアム・アダムズは実在の人物ですが、1600年の歴史的な戦い(関ヶ原の戦い)の後、家康(虎長)の気に入られ、旗本になっていますから、その戦いの前から活動をしたわけではありません。その事実ははっきりと認識して欲しいのです。娯楽作品にするには派手だったり残虐だったりする演出も仕方ないかもしれませんが、戸田鞠子のモデルとなった細川ガラシャは、信仰を守って自殺せず、家来に自身を殺させているため、戦国時代の悲劇のヒロインであることに変わりはありません。このドラマ内で鞠子は「自害」と言ってから、続いて「介錯」と言っているため、信仰を破った罰として「介錯」を頼んでも、これは日本人の常識から外れます。つまり、その「自害」は「実質上の切腹」になると日本人は考え、その奇妙さに戸惑うのです。難しかったことはわかりますが、「切腹」と同様に「介錯」も正しく表現して欲しかったと思います。
they just want to make some dollars from pleasing there western viewer's.
I will read the book after the show is over. Will love to know more details of the story.
The book tells the story much more from Blackthorne's perspective (and that of the Portuguese), it also spends a lot more time on the love story
This is not actually seppuku scene. Seppuku, 切腹, cut the belly, is the manner of samurai. For ladies of samurai family often committed suicide but not cut belly but stab their chest or cut their neck.
Mariko tried to stab her chest.
Seppuku is either way
What song is in the background? Soo good.
Sounds like "The Pull of Death" from Shogun's soundtrack
Jesus Crist mate ... I almost had an heart attack in This scene 😂
what is barney thompson doing in japan. he's supposed to be working for the peaky blinders
Although a lady could also commit seppuku equivalent (as uncommon cases), calling this seppuku is wrong as she targets her heart. 2:21
It looks like some Japanese say that this scene is wrong as a lady is not supposed to commit seppuku, but the truth is that she is not committing seppuku in this scene. Nobody in the show called it seppuku. Just some audiences or critics wrongly call it seppuku, which is wrong.
Then what is the female equivalent of Seppuku?
I believe its called "jigai". The ritual suicide from women of samurais. But normally its directed at the throat if im not mistaking
@@thespiritphoenix3798"jigai"
@@thespiritphoenix3798 "Jigai" means suicide.
"Seppuku" means to cut one's own belly.
In other words, "seppuku" is a kind of "jigai".
@@naylamuslima she isn't woman of a samurai but a hoe of Ajin,
I'm just here to laugh all the "weebs" in the comment section like "Ackchyually..."
I honestly can’t tell if it’s more white kids or actual Japanese people that are offended 😂
same lmao
Uh the people who ACKCHUALLY understand Japanese culture aren't weebs, they're just educated. The weebs are the ones who watch anime and think they know about samurais lol.
The fuck are you even talking about?
it'd be amazing if I could actually see what's happening without having to turn the brightness on my phone all the way up.
Ok these clips aint the best to watch on a phone. On max brightness and i can barely see a thing
Ah the tragic culmination 😢
can anyone explain why yabushi helps the shinobi get in the fortress and then warn the main characters about the incoming shinobi?
he's playing both sides so he always comes out on top
@@keithfilibeck2390he a dead man walking from the start 😂
Because Yabu is always playing both sides.
Mariko had to die in a way that moved lords to rebellion against Ishido. When he stopped seppuku, other way had to orchestrated that blamed him. For Yabu warring other is just an alibi for himself.
becouse he doesnt want to die
He's so mumbly, I can't understand what he says after telling her that he'll do it. Sounds like "there's no place I haven't already known, [insert unintelligible gibberish here]"
I agree, I think he says “Hell is no place I haven’t already known, let it from your mind” while trying to spare her from damnation for committing suicide without someone as her second.
@@austin1806 That makes sense and listening again after seeing your comment, I think you're right.
@@austin1806That is indeed what he says, had to put it on 0.5 at first just to understand it 😭
I thought I couldn’t understand because my English was not good enough ( not a native here, of course)
@@patrician3821 I'm a native speaker and I struggled with that line. I don't know why TV and movies think having actors mumble their lines somehow makes it better nowadays.
Marpi Point vibes
She asks him to wait until she has fallen.
I suspect she wanted to be unconcious before he attempts to behead her. He would have surely made a mess of it.
they already planned this fake suicide drama last night they were screwing.
Wondering why she tied her knees together... any particular reason?
すぐ死ぬわけでは無いので、苦しんだ際に暴れて着物の裾が乱れて、足が出ないようにするためです。
@user-kf2jo7cq3p ahhh, that makes sense. Thank you, for letting me know.
Real Bushido
Was John really going to go through with it?
We will never know
Yes because he wouldn't be able to watch her suffer the blood falling everywhere & her screams.
there is no way he had to. because mariko would not have guts to go through it for 16 F years he know what littl p she is,
Yes, both out of his respect and love for her and because he knew what it would mean to take her own life as a Christian. He stepped in to have her back when no one else would and to save her from damnation. Even if he had doubt in that belief, he knew she didn't.
@@varthelm she is fake Christian as she never considered suicide a sin as it is in bible.
That is a cross around her neck is it not?
Yes it is. She converted to christianity. Thats what I found strange in this scene, because its forbidden for christians to commit suicide
@@anthemsofeurope2408 I couldn’t think about anything else during the scene. Great writing, but uncomfortable to watch.
Hodor'd instead
This is a remake from xogum movie 1980
both are based on the same book
Yeah, for me that way Mariko carry aronde her little knife and never get to use it is more comical than tragic, it doesn't work for me!
Wrong title. It should read: Mariko almost commits seppuku. In Japanese culture JB would not have been the killer.
Damn right
a number of things wrong with this. Female samurai do not commit Seppuku they commit Jigai. When commiting Jigai the dagger is used to cut their throat not driver into their heart as Mariko intended. And finally since the jugglular was cut it brought about a very rapid death the act of beheading was not required so Blackthorne wouldn't have had to at as her second.
Without a second, Mariko would have committed suicide, damning her soul to hell. She needed someone else to strike the killing blow.
Nobody would cut off their lovers head if they truly loved them
CAN we say that it’s like Euthanasia ?
John and Mariko romance 😢 later in episode anyway, he made love to her that night & will never find a woman like her again
they don't made love it was sex, to fulfill there lust
She didnt die like thia in the book!
Neither in the show
@@blackmantis3130 ishido blows a door and it flattens her!
@@docholliday4546 i know. I watched the episode
If Season 1 of this work is modeled on the eve of Sekigahara, I would like Season 2 to create ``Winter Camp'' and ``Summer Camp'' based on the ``Battle of Sekigahara'', which was an internal conflict after unification.
After the novel was completed, Game of Thrones quickly developed a script and produced additional seasons.
It would be a shame if Shogun ended after season 1.
The story is about to get interesting.
There will be no second season this is based on the book and there is no second volume
This is not seppuku, seppuku is to stab the belly , not the heart.
For men it was the belly, but for women _Jigai_ could also be the throat or heart and can even be unassisted.
Only samurai men had the seppuku. Women stabed the hearth or fall into the dagger. Jigai was not a common practice.
That’s why this was labeled as suicide and why ishido didn’t won’t it to happen
@@benragnarsson7228 don't forget tongue biting too
its Sempakku
Why all movies are in the dark, I hate that, I don't look
they run out of budget for better lighting
女性が人前で自決する事は無い。ましてや切腹などあり得ない。
That 3:06 OUUUUUFFFFFF could be felt
Why was he so confident that he could one shot it? Wild ass
Just a question: here, Mariko recounts that her father was a good man who assassinated the boss of Toranaga's dead boss because the said guy was corrupt.
I know the Big Boss her dad kills is based on Oda Nobunaga, the most famous Shogun to have ever lived. Question: though it is commonly believed that Nobunaga was eccentric and morally ambiguous, was he really corrupt?
Dude stop posting spoilers before most have seen the episode
Oh no! We whom haven't probably don't even care. Like me for instance. Stop being a karen.
Samurai women did not commit "seppuku", which means cutting the belly. They would stab themselves in the throat. Not sure if they used "seconds" the way that men did either. Strictly speaking, a second was not necessary if a samurai carried out seppuku properly. However, as it was very painful, and required great commitment and willpower even for a dedicated samurai, it could be difficult to properly complete the act, so the custom of using a second, who would decapitate the person committing seppuku once they had begun the process of slitting open their abdomen became customary. Once the person had started the act, honor was served, and the second could decapitate them to end the pain and ensure the end came quickly. Attempting to cut off Mariko's head from behind here might be problematic. Her hair might create issues, possibly deflecting even a sharp sword before contacting the neck bones. It is also unlikely that Blackthorn would have had the skill and technique to carry out the procedure properly, even if he had been getting a few sword lessons. This is a deviation from the novel that was unnecessary, IMHO.
its a tv show man. give it a break.
Blackthornの介錯は下手そうだから絶対失敗する。首を落とすのに9回ぐらい刀振りおとすことに😂
痛そうだから私なら絶対頼まない。
W
虎永さまかいｗ
oh, please.......
This is completely wrong. Kaishaku is something that is done in response to seppuku. Women do not and cannot commit seppuku. So if she were allowed to commit suicide like in this video, she would die with a dagger to strike her heart. If she didn't die, someone else might have stabbed her to death. Her model, Hosokawa Gracia did not commit suicide, but had her family vassal stab her with his spear and kill her.
You're arguing with historical experts from Japan that were brought in for this show. One of the producers is Toranaga's actor who is ensuring it's as accurate as possible despite being dumbed down for western audiences.
自殺はキリスト教で禁じられているため、家老の小笠原秀清（少斎）がガラシャを介錯し、遺体が残らぬように屋敷に爆薬を仕掛け火を点けて自刃した。辞世の句は「散りぬべき 時知りてこそ 世の中の 花も花なれ 人も人なれ」。
Wikipedia
@@LordKamos777 様(sama)
This is not something to argue. It's a common sense that all Japanese people have, except for people who aren't particularly interested in history. If anyone knows a unique example of a woman being kaishaku when she commits suicide, I would like to know more about it. There must have been many parts of the drama where even Sanada-san had to compromise.
@@user-si6fd6lw6eexcept she is aiming for her heart. You see it the moment after the camera shifts when Ishido drops the permit. Nor is it valid to expect her to go out the same way as Gracia did as first and foremost - this is historical fiction. Hell Ochiba is supposed to be Chacha, who decidedly isn’t Nobunagas daughter but his sisters.
If you really watched the show you wouldve seen 2:45...
Mariko San is about to commit seppuku, but women in medieval Japan didn't pierce their hearts, they actually slit their own throats. So at this point the fiction is inaccurate.
Nope she gets blown up!😢
There's a little bit of Mariko on all of us.
@@DrCruel tbh, I'd like to have a bit of myself on Mariko
@@edzehoo That's what Buntaro said.
@@DrCruel but Buntaro aint got none, cuz his Hatamoto's tappin' all of that ass. White privilege hell yeeahhhh
I am Japanese, "Seppku"(切腹） is only for Samurai, I believe and
NOT for women. This is very very odd to us.
女腹切と言うものがありましたよ。
切腹とは武士の誇りを守るものなので基本的に男性の行為ですが、大名や武士の妻が切腹した事例は幾つかあるそうです。
I am fairly sure Japanese woman commited suicide under certain circumstances, the only debate would be the word Seppku. It's not Seppku but it is a suicide.
"Jigai" , kill oneself, was common among samurai-class ladies.
They pierced their throat or heart as Mariko attempted.
Otama or Gracia Hosokawa, model of Mariko did that.
@@DankaiNoAtoshimatsu-ke5zmAgree! ”Jigai " (自害；自殺）might be the right word for this, I guess. Not officially "Seppuku"
Didn’t know Japanese can write English
女性は首では？
yes!
刑罰になかっただけで、自分で選んで選択することはあったらしいよ
Wrong. ladies did not commit seppuku, it is only for Samurai.
Samurai ladies kill themselves by the knife thrusting throat or heart.
It is difficult for untrained person to cut off human head by sword.
Unsightly and ugly beheading was a shame of the beheader and in this case he also had to kill himself because of this shame. So, Anjin second is impossible.
It happened in the book.
Oh, please do be quiet.
問題ない、歴史上女性も切腹してる
Okay, Weeaboo
She wasnt commiting seppuku. The uploader doesnt know. Look at 2:45. Weeb.
You know some of us have jobs and don't stay up until 1am to watch this, but you put spoilers in the title of your video. "Don't recommend this channel"
I have a job and I watched it. Maybe learn how to avoid spoilers
@Viktorreznov1942 good for you. How do you avoid spoilers when the first video on top of the screen has a spoiler in the title? Maybe learn to avoid being a dick.
@dan6822 First of all the title isn't entirely accurate, 2nd you can't expect anyone to stop posting spoilers, so if you don't want to see spoilers you have to avoid anything related to the show as soon as you see it, it's actually easy to just not read the title, and the easiest way altogether is to watch it as soon as it drops.
This scene from the 1980 version
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This is what she’s being wanting for the longest time and fails at it! Why the crying?
Because not like before, now she relaise she have kid, she have jhon who cared her, even religion, n when it death so it kinda scare her,,
Well last episode she mentioned how her wanting death all those years was to find a life away from the life she was living and now with John and her service to Toranaga she has found that life. Now that she is committing Sepoku she has to sacrifice the life she always wanted
Because she found love. Right before this scene, John asks of her,”Would you then, consider, living for me.” The way she looks and breaths shows if that were a possibility, she would take it.
Part of it (explained in the book) was that she had mentally made the commitment to kill herself, when suddenly Ishido arrives and pulls her back from the brink. Quite harrowing, I would imagine.
This crazy nuts rituals..death and own killing.
Very practical for the rulers, to have the subjects kill themselves when they have failed their lords... Never heard of a japanese lord who killed himself for treating his subjects poorly xD
@@nulldemokratiezwei7773 Its not only about that. It's about honor and sacrifice.
@@ZaiFuchigami Well, how often do the rulers sacrifice themselves, when they have mistreated the people? And where is the honor in exploitation?
@@ZaiFuchigamiHumans are nuts
@@ZaiFuchigamiwhat is ‘honor and sacrafice’ why do these ‘lord’ gets it but not the peasants when they are humans aswell. Honor and sacrafice is a lie considering the Japanese raped hundreds of thousands of women
What a pointless scene when literally 5min later she’s being blown up for standing in front of the door being blown up.
The fact that she knew they were going to use explosives to open the door allowed her to place herself so she would be killed. The same as if she had committed suicide. The Shinobi were tasked not with killing her but capturing her to prevent her from leaving the next morning and allowing all of the other hostages to follow. This was Toranaga's plan that would allow the Lords who might support him against Ishido to do so without killing their entire families. Hiromatsu's death was part of the plan, he killed himself knowing that was what was required to make Ishido think that Toranaga was going to submit and give Mariko the time needed to destroy Ishido.
This is ridiculous.
Women cannot commit seppuku.
No one can second her.
Ep.8 was so good. But i was disappointed in ep.9.
도대체…. 이해가 않됨…. 왜 자꾸 죽을려고 하냐….
Japanese women don’t do seppuku, thus needed one to kaishyaku.
真田がついてるのに無作法なシーン
What a let down. I wish that interruption came 5 minutes later.
Seppuku soul mates. Completely ridiculous.
There have been many cases where a close friend was the kanshakunin. Usually one chooses somebody that knows how to use a sword well. John would have butchered it (heh) and that would have caused the story to spread like wildfire, which would aid Toranaga's cause.
The movie makers have not even read the book.
really cool scene, but a women commiting ritual suicide in medieval japan would have sliced he jugular, here she was ogoing to open her belly
Or the woman stabs their self in the heart, which she was aiming for. Shut up lol that’s why she asked to be seconded also. She was taking off her necklace and tying her knees together
If you watch she was going to stab herself in the heart
別に問題ない
吉村嘉六の娘・りつは、敵討ちをしたうえで、許しのない敵討ちの罪で自害する際切腹を選んだとされている
nope she was not going to do seppuku but jigai.
She was going to stab her heart.
But as a female warrior herself she asked someone to second her.
@@kakkoishonen ho okay, thank you
You don't have to watch
Best comment!
thank you lol. too many people crying in the comments
フジヤマ、ゲイシャ、ハラキリは日本文化です🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🙏🙏🙏
Japans culture is just something I’ll never try to understand or agree with. Life was nothing to them. They treated people like life points in a mario game because they had trust issues. Really shows how insecure they were that they had to play these toxic political games. I guess you could say tho that ochibas father was a mad king tho. In every aspect.
You mean olden Japan. You're not gonna see this shit nowadays. And all culture back in those days treat life like nothing. You killed and get brutalized by the smallest shit and its common. Ever watched vikings? Their culture makes japans look peaceful as hell.
@@wymg4480 I mean you’re right but that doesn’t refute my opinion. IMO feudal Japan is something incomparable. I’m sure every culture has had their due diligence in treating life like shit. Comparing culture doesn’t mean you over look something else and say “it makes Japan seems peaceful” it is still something beyond my my imagination. So MY opinion still stands. 🤷🏽
@@ajbangme nah i aint overlooking them. each culture back in the day has crazy shit in their own right. japan's craziness is based off death being an honor to them. they rather die than live on in certain scenarios. meanwhile in vikings, they fight just to die because they believe only in combat could they reach valhalla. both sides disregard life in separate ways. its normal for us to not understand. afterall we grew up in a completely different time period and environment.
@@wymg4480
I am thinking about the reason for all this behaviour and why our view today is different. I guess it's the absence of death in our daily lifes, because of the easier conditions of life sustenance. In that time death was everywhere. Even bathing to long outside in cold water combined with other factors like malnutrition or exhaustion could bring you a cold that could put you to death. So maybe it's the wish to give your own inevitable death, what is a kind of daily affair, at least a kind of honorable status.
@@xiphos14it also helps to keep in mind that this culture was something the warrior elite cultivated. It's not surprising to see copious amounts of death in this story because this is a power struggle at the highest level as the various sides try to prevail. They had to compete with each other and also with other power brokers in Japanese society like the Emperor and the Buddhist temples. This matter high internal cohesion necessary. It helps that Japan is in a very secluded position, which made sudden changes of their culture less likely than in other places in the world.
In the US we have hotlines to call for this problem.