John vs Kashigi Sword Duel and Buntaro Shows Up... Shogun Episode 7 Anjim Blackthrone
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I love how he was holding it like a cutlass
He's a sailor how else is he going to hold a sword he's not trained in? You revert to what you know.
@@joebloggs5318 that's literally what I was implying? I love that he's holding a sword in a way he's always used to.
@@joebloggs5318you’re trying to be argumentative for no reason
I mean, an edge is an edge. If he used his instincts for the cutlass, he'd be able hold his own for a bit
@@nirmaljacob3968 mostly, yes, but the weight distribution is far more different. With the katana being more top heavy than a cutlass, one handing it like one would be a bit awkward.
Plus, we don’t know how often Blackthorne even used a cutless. Let alone use it against a skilled swordsman
"This appears to be occurring..."
LOL
😄
you can take the man out of England, but can't take England out of the man lol
"i see what this is..."
Every expat thinks this at least once a week.
Yabushige is such an idiot but I love him. 😂
"You would've died if I wasn't here."
He's an awesome character
He’s my favourite character…he’s just adorable
@@strider9184 His grunts and sighs are hilarious.
he's a cowardly bully kind of character. Like a boy in an adult Samurai body. Very nonchalant about life and death.
I was laughing the whole series cuz Yabu-sama reminded me so much of a wise-cracking half-crazed arrogant _sama_ from some *anime!*
Blackthorne is not Nathan Algren of Last Samurai. He’s not going to learn how to use Japanese blade in a few weeks.
If anything, he'll at least learn the language as fast as Algren.
The problem is he acts like he has no idea how to wield any blade whatsoever, or has any fighting ability at all....
Algren's character wasn't in Katsumoto's village for weeks, he was there for months. He was also a multi-battle experienced cavalry officer. Unlike many of Katsumoto's men, he's actually experienced large scale military combat multiple times.
He was repeatedly shown as having his backside handed to him in Japanese sword combat, but applied himself to learn.
He certainly didn't flop around like a mouse who'd never touched a blade before.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 Actually he holds the Katana like you would do a Rapier, which he is probably somewhat familiar with as it was a common sword in Europe at the time. A Rapier has a different handle which allows for the kind of grip he is using. With a Katana such a Grip is nonsense. Also, he is a Sailor with Pistoles as his preferred weapon. So probably doesn't have too much sword-fighting knowledge.
@@marvinamann4969
Yes, and it's laughable how he holds it so loosely that he's easily disarmed with very little effort. Even his drawing of the sword looks clumsy and awkward, like he's never handled a sword before.
Sure, he has pistols, and likes them as weapons, however within the historical context to suggest that a sea faring man would not be well adept at using a blades weapon is very unlikely.
Frankly it's a badly written and executed scene. What purpose does it serve in furthering the plot? What are we supposed to take away from it?
Unfortunately Blackthorne seems to have been nerfed in this adaptation in a number of ways compared to the novel. He's really no longer portrayed as an intelligent and adaptive person, one who uses said intelligence and a lot of open minded curiosity to learn to adapt and survive. It's unfortunate, and unnecessary.
Asano Tadanobu’s performance in this thing is so good. This is an extremely common, but little-appreciated, type of Japanese guy - a bluff, crude, beardy oaf whose number one friendship-building strategy is to make obscene, ironic remarks and smack you in the head when you’re not paying attention. More than half the people I know are like this, and I love them all.
Another explanation of Blackthorne’s embarrassing performance here is that he doesn’t fully realize that Yabushige is giving him a lesson and not trying to kill him. He doesn’t understand his words and considering Yabushiges past actions and violent tendencies it isn’t out of the question that he might just finally butcher him out of spite.
He might be faking it, he was a privateer after all.
@@peenoice5176 I think that's the case, he showed no hesitation in impaling that Ninja with his Katana
Genghis Khan teaching an Englishman on how to wield a katana...
😂😂😂😂
Japan defeated the Mongols 3 times 😂
@@OlBlow-qv6oz Jin Sakai defeat Mongols on Tsushima alone.
@@OlBlow-qv6oz2
@OlBlow-qv6oz tbf, the weather defeated the Mongols twice. Iirc, hurricanes destroyed the Mongol fleet twice.
It actually caused a huge resurgence in religion in Japan, many had ceased believing, but this happening twice convinced many that the gods were real.
I like how the swords don't go SHWING when drawn, but have a woody sound as their scabbards are made of wood.
Blackthorn is clearly faking it. Man is a seasoned privateer who raided dozens of Portuguese ports he absolutely knows "the blade from the handle". But it's smart to let the Japanese think he does not, especially given how this episode was all about deception and appearing weak when strong.
He wields that sword like a saber or a rapier. He's just not used to katanas.
And as a Pilot I doubt he did much melee combat.
Cutlass, rapier, dagger, pike, axe... these were the usuall weapons of an european sailor. A 2-hand long sword/katana was a land infantry weapon, requiring diferent skills.
@@VDA19 You can wield a katana in one hand. It's actually rather short. In that regard it is like a messer or falchion.
@@jlvfr Kenjutsu and hema have the same fundamentals. At the end of the day a sharpened iron bar is a sharpened iron bar
@@The_Gallowglasseh, those would have different weight distrubutions and such which would make the blade feel different, its not like putting on another pair of shoes and immediately running a sprint
John and Kashigi are the same. They're both just soilders who are both caught and trapped in the politics. I believe that if they were together and if they thought Toranaga was in danger they would fight to the death side by side having each other's back. Obviously, Kashiga is higher ranked and all that. That's not what I meant. I just meant, they share common things about them. That's all I meant.
Kashigi boiled alive one of his crew alive. And not even for any decent reason.
Thats a way to sour a relationship…
Kashige is way more cunning for a simple soldier
-"What are you doing?"
-"What are YOU doing?"
I like how he initially holds it like a rapier for a fencing euro style fencing duel , which would make sense. then he immediately corrects it to "two hands" and yeah, Europeans had two handed swords before this and were familiar with this. People tend to forget that martial arts were as common and developed in the west. Not to throw shade on japanese here.
You’re gonna made a lot of weaboos mad by saying that
@@seanmccullough3863 nippon steel folded 10k times cut by euro greatsword
Ships are cramped environments, even moreso during boarding actions. For mariners like him, a cutlass or a rapier would be more preferred (and practical) weapons, not necessarily two handed swords. They need at least one hand to grasp objects aboard ship (masts, ropes and loot, among other things), when aboard or boarding other ships. If they are well equipped, even use pistols before engaging in melee. A free hand makes for a versatile tool, allowing mariners flexibility especially during emergencies.
Japanese Katana's are a unique two handed sword differing in design from the European Blades. Instead of two cutting surfaces, a Katana only has one cutting surface, with the cutting edge being hardened and the back being a bit softer to allow the blade to take some blows during an exchange. Put shortly, John doesn't know how to use a Katana because he isn't an anime character.
The wests martial arts were pony compared to the east. Lol. Muay Thai? Judo? Karate? No such thing in the west.
Well that escalated rather quickly.
"Eating a succulent Chinese meal"
“GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PEANUTS!”
I see you know your kendo well
love how John holds it like a saber, you know what he would normally be using lol.
Sailors of the time should be trained for war. Samurai attacked a few nanban ships and paid a heavy price. Don't like that they effectively made John a civilian.
He's no civilian when he's behind a cannon
Agreed that, according to the story, Blackthorne has definitely seen his share of ship battles and maybe raids before this. Whether or not it was ranged or hand-to-hand was unclear. I'm not a swordsman myself, but it doesn't look like John is a civilian, but unskilled in using a two-handed katana. He was holding the katana in a one-handed rapier/fencing stance. And he's knowledgeable enough to know he doesn't stand a chance against a trained katana user, doesn't know what is going on, and doesn't want to give off the sense they're fighting for real.
Well he was holding it like a cutlass which indicates that he probably has some training.
This is very incorrect. Sailors did not recieve significant weapons training. They would at best be taught to use axes an MAYBE a cutlass, and even then it was about how to hack. They weren't taught swordplay. If John had wealthy and/or noble upbringing he might have rapier training.fdff
Further more, most blades in europe by this point were relatively light one-handers, the closest equivalent in europe to a katana would be the longsword which had fallen out of use about 100 years before this takes place.
It's why john immediately stands with one arm out and his body turned sideways: At the very least he is aware of how an englishman would hold a sword. Transitioning that to a 2-handed weapon however would not be instinctive as everything from the grips to legg and footwork would be different.
because the europeans had superior gunpowder weapons and training, and because a katana and armor are not ideal for sea combat
John has never used a katana before, he holds it like a thin european piercing sword, which was the style of 1600
Utter BS. An experienced seventeenth century Elizabethan sailor, a pirate by definition, would have good command of bladed weapons such as cutlasses, cut-and-thrust swords and, if a gentleman or has pretenses of being such, rapiers. A katana is different, yes. But not so dissimilar to a cutlass that Blackthorne would be helpless.
Period samurai coming up against period Spanish, Portuguese and English sailors got their rears kicked on at least a 50-50 basis. After a few encounters between Japanese wokou and Spanish troops in the Philippines, Spanish sword-and-buckler men were especially respected as opponents.
This "white man can't use sword" trope is ridiculously overdone. Unless, of course, Blackthorne is faking the whole thing in order to appear weaker than he is.
Tadanobu Asano is such an awesome addition to this show! I've followed his work since Ichi the Killer.
Context is everything. He is unfamiliar in that environment and hence why so vulnerable
I wish the trope of "Europeans don't know the way of the sword" was less widespread.
That's not a trope and I've never heard that once ever on the internet. You're just making things up because you got offended a white guy in a film got embarrassed/bullied by a non-white guy. Grow up.
@@ginch8300
Why would an experienced naval officer of the 17th century be so clumsy and sheepish with a sword, to the point that even drawing it from a scabbard looked like he'd never held a weapon before?
@@ginch8300
Why does this person need to 'grow up?'
Because you disagree with them?
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He holds the sword like a sabre. He knows how to handle a sword just not a katana.
They really nerfed Blackthorne in this series.
Blackthorne in the novel is educated, experienced, intelligent, and worldly; above all he's a survivor.
I'm left wondering why Toranaga like this guy? Why is Mariko attracted to this guy? He spends most of his time moping around, and his learning seems to have plateaued. He's not getting particularly better at Japanese, and he's not seemingly actively interested in doing so. He's not being assimilated into Japanese culture, which happen to him in the novel, and is what happens to the real William Adams upon which he is based.
Blackthorne was more multidimensional in the novel; there was more to him that just the knowledge he had that was useful to Toranaga. He was a rebel, a wildcard, and an outsider in a time and place where society was very formalized and rigid. He can get away with things others can't, and take actions others wouldn't conceive of, because he's a outsider with his own manners of behaviour and philosophies.
And before someone says it, no he was not portrayed as a saviour who becomes a perfect Samurai and solves everyone's problems in the novel. He spent the overwhelming majority of his time in the novel at the mercy of events outside of his control, and was at the whim of multiple Japanese characters.
Possibly the novel emphasis Blackthorns' integral part in this timeline in Japan to the point of whitewashing history. Perhaps the writers of this show wanted to present a more 'realistic' representation of Shogunate Japan. Just my theory at least. I'll be honest as a white male I do find it rather annoying in historical based cinema's of a white guy just showing up and saving the day.
@@ginch8300
Have you ever read the novel? Because that's not what happens whatsoever.
The people trying to portray that are frankly being dishonest.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 I thought I was being quite reasonable. However you seem to have interpreted it differently. I don't wish to continue the conversation any further.
@@ginch8300
Then you misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm saying this is what you are doing.
Have you read the novel? If you haven't, I highly recommend it.
@@ginch8300
Further questions:
In the FX adaptation, why does Toranaga like Blackthorne?
Why is Mariko attracted to him?
The lost irony of this scene and what the author James Clavell likely didn't adequately understand himself at the time of his writing Shogun was that a TRUE Elizabethan "John Blackthorn" who was supposedly a veteran Elizabethan pirate turned Anglo-Japanese adventurer in the novel?
Would've had a very good grasp of sword, dagger, or pole arm fighting....just not perhaps in the highly formal Asian systemized way that a Japenese samurai would've been.
And a REAL "John Blackthorne" would've fought much more down and dirty.
Using whatever weapon was at his disposal certainly, but would've had a better than an unarmed commoner's education in edged weapon useage.
Because edged weapons would've been a day to day facet of a REAL "John Blackthornes" 16th-17th century life.
In short??
A real "John Blackthorne" wouldn't have been dependent solely on his pistols to kill someone.
That someone including a Japanese samurai.
So the over dramatic "John Blackthorne being in awe of "superior" Japanese swordsmanship" trope portrayed in the show?
Is exactly that.
A well worn fictional trope.
One that was once used by authors and media at the time Clavell wrote his Asian novels to help sell their works and the "mysteries of the Far East".
A trope that has worked quite well since at least the early 20th century and one that's largely been accepted as normal in today's media.
But a fictional....not HISTORICAL....honesty.
In general, East Asian martial arts (both armed and unarmed) have largely been pretty subpar compared to Europeans. The millennia of continuous warfare in the west has refined their fighting methods to a pretty high degree. Admittedly, Japan in the Sengoku Jidai is probably the only time and place in East Asian history where that might not have been true... But certainly a European fighting man would not have been this awful with a sword.
@AUniqueHandleName444
Indeed.
But sadly.
Due to the Wests fascination with what it's viewed as "ancient and mysterious"....instead of "ancient and stagnated"....there is still a predilection for Westerners to lack understanding or have any regard for their own martial arts history and culture...and rush instead to embrace East Asian martial arts history and culture that, while certainly colorful and vibrant, is really either not that different from Western or is different enough in a negative manner to be inferior or worth discarding.
Something which I think occurred more frequently in the West than East, historically speaking.
Because it seems that in the West, as technology evolved?
Anything military that proved ineffective or incapable of evolving into improved capability?
Was rapidly discarded for something better.
While in the East?
Such things only evolved so far, and no furthur, but were still being taught as martial arts gospel in dojo's, academies, and schools throughout civilized Asia....well into the 20th or even our 21st centuries.
Long after, they'd ceased to be effective for anything other than displaying a given students athletic capability.
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If he was a sailor during this time he would know how to use a blade.
Except he is using a Katana which is likely he is not familiar
and even if he use it it won't be matter to someone who trained to use Katana
and He will likely more familiar to European swords
Based on the way he initially holds it, it seems like whatever prior experience or training he has is in something designed to pierce (like a rapier).
If he wasn't just relying more on his pistols, he would probably know something much shorter and easier to use in a ship's interior, so the length and weight of a Katana would still be foreign to him.
Absolutely. This is one thing I believe they got wrong historically. His claim that he knows nothing of "infantry tactics" when in fact, naval warfare at the time was largely just land warfare from the deck of a ship. Its the origination of the Marines. And not knowing how to use a Cutlass? And not just a merchant seaman but a Privateer? Master and Commander which was historically accurate showed that when ships closed...even the Doctor fought with Pistol, cutlass and boarding axe.
That isnt true, the last time naval doctrine was "land warfare from the deck of a ship" was during the roman empire. By this point close quarter combat on ships was avoided in the majority of cases due to its chaos. @@vincentgilbert8550
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 Typical katana is 39 inches from tip to kashira. They're not that much different from a cutlass. For a two handed sword they're rather short. The only difference is the wrapping of the handle.
I think bontaro wanted to kill him because of the way he was holding the katana 😂
Oh, it was definitely because of the way he was holding something.
It's because he fked his wife.. you fool
@@westrim😏
It's most likely because Mariko-San told Buntaro-Sama that Blackthorne was hung like a swamp donkey!
He thought Anjin was sleeping with his wife while he was away.
Actor playing kashigi either has studied some serious japanese sword schools, or he really did hs homework, because how he drew his weapon was specific to a certain sword school, if I'm not mistaken. CZcamsr Shogo's Sensei is master of said school, unless i am wrong. Buntaro's actor, however, learned to sheathe his sword from movies and video games, it seems.
I adore the kyu-gunto, so when I saw how Anjin holds his katana, I squealed a little
Mariko and Blackthorne seem to welcome and want death either because they are both fearless or because they can’t be together.
Samurai were highly trained land warriors. Buntaro himslef took on an armed mob and escaped. Of course Blackthorne was experienced in fighting as well, but not in the same caliber as a Samurai whose whole life is land warfare. I think the scene is showing the vulnerabilities of the character which is necessary for good character development and arc. This is not Disney Star Wars where Rey was born a Jedi Master 😂.
Agree 100%. The Samurai were the worlds greatest swordsmen. Even the art of drawing the Katana from the sheath was a conscious act to be done the right way. Blackthorn had zero chance against a trained Samurai even if he knew how to use a cutlass.
If you really believe that Rey was "bOrN a JeDI MasTer", than you REALLY failed to pay attention to the story in every way seriously.
Except Portugese sailors regularly defeated Samurai in this time period - lol
People think Samurai are Jedi
@@coldstream11 "Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence", which I'm more than eager to review.
And John Blackthorne is certainly not Nathan Algren😂
The subtly disturbing thing to me here is that the pot is uncovered and someone is stoking the cauldron with wood...meaning its going to be used again soon...
Human stew again
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i'm normally not keen on remakes but that was a cool scene
I do hope to see John using a rapier or cutlass, to show them he can be deadly efficient in a fight
Sailors didn't really use rapiers all that much. A cutlass and main gauche would see that Japanese guy left for dead.
@@joebloggs5318 doubt, sailor aren't trained swordman, these guy are, regardless of what sword that white guy use he would still be death.
You have become better at Two Hand Slash! (3)
Buntaro is a legend, but he would have to commit seppuku if he were to kill John Blackthorne, as it would be a disservice to Lord Toranaga.
John Blackthorne in the book had been fighting at sea his entire life and had also taken part in land battles in the Netherlands. He states that he is more familiar with cutlass and knife than anything. So while he may be less competent with this type of weapon he certainly knew how to fight. So the only explanation would be that he was pretending not to. But why? Kashigi knew that he had been tough enough to cross oceans in a little wooden ship so would hardly expect him to be weak.
Boohoo white savior loses to Asian masterclass samurai. That's impossible I've been told all my life that Asians are weak and feminine and need a white savior to help them boohoo
He's a major pilot guys, not exactly out raiding even if he is a privateer.
Man fought Raiden and lived to tell the tail. I call that a win.
they swapped place after buntaro peeking lmao
I'd love to see him learn before he dies in battle next season.
Kakihara making friends the weird way.
Always saddened me that Kashigi Yuba is so treacherous. I like his character, just wish he had a pince more loyalty
honestly still can't be sure whether Yabushige is trying to humiliate Blackthorne or teach him a hard lesson. or both, of course
Well, im seriously in lust with Mariko.
With that out of the way.
If you recall, Mariko was going through the ships log and saw how many towns they sacked, burned people alive, etc. They killed a lot of people on their journey.
Just because John didn't know the fighting style doesn't mean he couldn't handle himself in a fight.
Guns are better than swords right
Never bring an idiot to a gunfight 😊
@@izmirs. In that era? Highly debatable lmao
@@izmirs. most sailors would have some melee combat experience especially around this time frame when pistols and rifles were single shot, when boarding a vessel you gonna have to use a melee weapon axe or sword you don't got time to reload your guns.
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot yeah but only some, and their opponent is mostly other sailor, who is as untrained as them, a sailor's fighting skill would be pretty poor if you compare them to actual soldier.
So...
Let me tell you what most people are looking for in a duel here jack.. 😂
I thought something way different was gonna happen
Maybe use Sabre manual/doctrine with a foreign curved sword and it would be an interesting clash of martial abilities but...
Nope basically how all the sword fights go between my toddler and his oldest brother 😂😂😂
I did not like that scene at all. Blackthorne is an experienced Naval Officer, he would have known how to use a sword of any type at least in the basics. The character he is based on was fighting with Francis Drake before going on a Dutch ship, he had a lot of fight experience for sure.
From personal experience: A Rapier or Saber can do fight very well against a Katana. Same for the style, i did Kendo a lot of years and met a Hema guy, i fought with his sword, completely different from a katana hold and i did not that bad against him. So, if you know any type of fencing, you will be O.K. fighting a different style to some point.
They made him look bad with that.
Truthfully, at this point in history, English sailors would've been more proficient in sword fighting and the use of pole arms than the English infantry who had long ago switched to pike & shot tactics. Naval warfare would be dominated by the cutlass and its descendants along with pistols and the occasional longarm for centuries. Portraying a seasoned sailor such as Blackthorne as martially incompetent is such an odd move.
Two-handed blades were for infantry and required a different kind of training and specialty, as you can see he holds it one handed like a cutlass or rapier he's accustomed to, the length and weight of the Katana certainly threw him off. It seems anyway that he's much more proficient with cannons and guns anyway.
@@phoenix71232 "white man"
Behold, the pride of the Kings Navy ...or Queen. 😆
Who was the ruler of England during this period?
Queen Elizabeth I. She dies in 1603, 3 years after the Battle of Sekigahara, where Tokugawa Ieyasu (the model for Toranaga) beats his rivals and ends the Sengoku era.
Don't let a TV show fool you into thinking the British Navy were a bunch of pussies. 75% of the world speaks English for a reason.
There was a well known Gallowglass that worked for the Portuguese. Butched every hostile Japanese swordsman or man at arms that came at him. His comment, you shouldn't send a carpenter to fight a professional soldier.
I mean I can’t imagine a katana holding up very well to a Scottish/Irish greatsword wielding mad man
@@benpage5088 scotland foreva
@benpage5088 The Gallowglass in question was Irish from Galloway. They liked a glaive as pole arm. They also specialised in dual wielding swords . Master Hegarty liked the combination of rapier and dussack!
@@benpage5088r3tard
It’s important to remember that at that time the average Japanese man at arms would have been a foot shorter and several dozen pounds lighter than their European counterparts. With significantly less muscle tone.
There, I saved you from the manufactured crisis that I created. You’re welcome. Hallmark of a malignant narcissist.
Settle down…it’s not that serious 😅
@@strider9184denial.
@@strider9184 Ignorant. He’s a sociopath, even by the standards of his society.
Feel like John is being wasted. I was hoping for a sequence of training and him getting more accustomed to Japanese culture.
I wonder how John would do if he had a cutlass
would still lose, he's a sailor, not a trained swordman.
@@DccAnhThe British navy were trained swordsman
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This scene made no sense to me. The show had already established that Blackthorne could fight in melee combat back in the forest battle scene. If he's capable of using a naginata that he shouldn't be nearly as useless at wielding a katana or fighting melee generally.
Sure no ones expecting him to be really proficient but there's no way he should be getting immediately disarmed with no effort. In the original 1980 show he states he has fought in two land battles in the past, but as I've not read the book I don't know if it's true there as well.
Yeah, he would have been a lot less familiar with a katana vs a naginata (since the naginata is closer to European polearms than the katana is to European swords), but not THIS bad. A reasonably bright person who is physically active and has seen someone with a sword in general would be better than he was.
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Two-handed blades were for infantry and required a different kind of training and specialty, as you can see he holds it one handed like a cutlass or rapier he's accustomed to, the length and weight of the Katana certainly threw him off. It seems anyway that he's much more proficient with cannons and guns anyway. Plus he didn't understand Yabushige was trying to train him, just thought that he was about to be executed.
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Give him a rapier?
Though even if he won, he would be in way more trouble.
@@KoflerDavid no chance John won.
@@snowshock8958 Given a weapon of his choice, he'd wipe the floor with most Japanese fighting men. The difference in Japanese vs European martial prowess was night and day in favor of the Europeans.
@@AUniqueHandleName444 so you were talking about John… no he won’t. John would get destroyed by any samurai shown in the show. We can clearly see he doesn't know how to fight. Where did it said he had fighting, weapons training?
I give you the answer nowhere!
@@AUniqueHandleName444 the difference of martial prowess between Japanese vs European is just your opinions.
There is no real life historical duels or war between those countries.
Bro said skill issues and having fun.
Mf tried to ks
Редкостная по идиотизму сцена. Можно подумать, что это я попал в Японию, а не хитрый и опытный пират.
They Neutered him. Making him not battle-worthy. And they didn't stick to Tradition by Not giving us a white vs Samurai fight like in The Last Samurai.
The series looks good, but this wasn't in the original book.
HIS NAME IS NOT KASHIGI LMAO
This is one bit of the series’s that I didn’t care for. Blackthorne had led men into battle on land dozens of time. Not to mention ship boarding/fighting generally was a lot more brutal than the pike and shot block formation style warfare common to the time.
So…a pirate pilot of a globe spanning merchant/warship of 1600 doesn’t know how to use a sword? Yeah, it’s a katana, not a rapier, arming sword, cutlass, or hanger, I get it. That said, he has Z E R O knowledge of edged weapons? Suspension of disbelief is over, the premise is BS.
why isnt buntaro fat!??!
Poor Kashigi Yabushige 😢
I hope now that the show is over people in hindsight can stop whining about John's performance. He's not seriously trying as he has no clue what's going on. He even says he's moving slowly in case he thinks he's in trouble or something. For all he knows Yabushige could be angry at him and he's trying not to escalate it, how is he supposed to know it's a competition? He handles himself in Melee combat perfectly fine in Episode 9 even with a Katana, nevermind using his pistol as a club.
an unpleasant and physically unfit and clumsy actor
John tried to use the wrong technique for a different sword. Naturally he'll be defeated. Also given the fact, that he's just a sailor, not a trained fighter.
This version of Blackthorn is too weak and complacent. Almost woke at being the inferior caucasian. Much preferred the original actor who didn't give in so much.
Some cringe comments in here lol. No a sailor isn’t going to be better than someone who specializes on fighting on land. The Japanese were probably the best land army in the world during the Sengoku era.
Sorry, but any man that specialises in rapier sword fighting is ending a samurai.
This series really butchers the book. Watch the original miniseries, it's far superior.
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Judging by cinematic merits, tis blows 1980s version out of the water. Not just cause of technology
Ah yes a guy also trained in sword loses, because reasons. Guy would have literally moved the sword out of the swing and thrust. Oh wait, British, white, and male.... Ooohhh realistic to this time period, not that one.
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BS DOES NO ONE EVER READ THE BOOK? THIS NEVER OCCURED. TAKE A GREAT STORY AND DESTROY IT. CHANGES THE ENTIRE INTERACTION OF THE CHARACTERS . I GUESS THEY SIMPLIFY IT BECAUSE TO ENJOY THE ORIGINAL STORY YOU HAVE TO THINK