Mariko Destroys Ishido In Front of the Whole Council by Trying to Leave Osaka Shogun Episode 9
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Actress playing Mariko nailed her role. She is unforgettable and her performance should be rewarded as such.
unfortunately asians do not have affirmative status in america, they will give the awards to fall out even though shogun is the superior show by a large margin
"I am no peasant to be trodden on.... My line has been samurai for a thousand years,..." - She saying that knowing Ishido came from peasant lineage. He did not come from a line of samurai 💅 Slay
The context Ishido real life counterpart ishida was part of hideyoshi crew who was a peasant himself but rise to power under nobunaga, After hideyoshi took power he proved hmself as talented financial guy which why he was part of council of regent after hideyoshi passing and become its defacto leader, many new narratives actually seen Ishida as ned stark of japan because his loyalty to hideyoshi heir but his reputation tarnished because Torinaga (tokugawa) goverment propaganda.
Burn!
It is actually a pretty bad burn given that her line was entirely dishonored.
Some folks need to be reminded where they came from every now and then.
@@404Dannyboy And the ire for Ishido that she displayed was palpable. That retort was meant for the entire audience--the likes of Ishido and the rest of the Council of Regents---that had branded her father a traitor and shamed her family's bloodline. It was generational rage that was flowing through Mariko. And as a woman, she wielded he real weapon she possessed, her words and her vitriol in a setting of extreme formality and deference. She utilized her Lord's name and position as a platform from which to launch her display of disdain for all of them. Later, we see Mariko competently though not expertly wield the naginata against the Guards. She flails about until exhausted. She is a testament to sheer will, and she shamed all the Regents who stood by and watched as weapons were raised and pointed in her direction, she both a vassal and emissary of her Lord, declaring that she is attempting to fulfill her Lord's command to her. Her very honor, station, and dignity is at stake, and they stood by and cowardly allowed a woman to wield a weapon in her own defense. And that too, outnumbered and overwhelmed. They let her struggle to the point of sheer exhaustion. This display in defiance of Ishido, was a victory over ALL of them.
Mariko's declaration of intent to commit Seppuku is merely the exclamation point (spiking the football in the end zone) of their disgrace and her honorable feat. That she was spared at the last instance from Seppuku is merely Ishido trying to save face in the wake a shameful defeat. That he desperately tried to have her kidnapped to prevent her departure showed his desperation to maintain the leverage already slipping from his grasp. And when Mariko determined that her life will end there, with assassins in the compound and the blood of those in Ishido's care already having been spilled, she was dealing a fatal blow to the power of Ishido, Lady Ochiba no Kata (the mother of the crown heir) whose husband marked Mariko's father as a traitor and called for the termination of that bloodline. The death of a noble's emissary, one who held a seat at the Council of Regents, would be a disgraceful, indelible shame upon ALL of them. Mariko exacted her vengeance upon them all, far more than Seppuku would have.
To stand with Ishido after this would mean endorsing the cowardice of such actions. It would mean to support a dishonorable ruler who had ordered the execution of a defenseless woman, a noble's vassal and Lord emissary.
Without the context of having seen the entire show up to this point and understanding how honour and custom bound they were, it would of been hard to grasp the gravity the situation of how insanely bold and brave Mariko was in this scene.
"It would have been"
And her father Akechi, was the only brave man in Japan willing to stand up to Nobunagas cruelty, had a whole village slaughter and monks- he had enough and gather enough loyal men and went against his lord forcing him to kill himself before Akechi himself was taken out by his army. people called him a "traitor" so be it, he wasnt a traitor to humanity.
You killed that moment by chopping that scene like that!
My paperback fell apart while I was a teenager from constant rereading. I never thought I would see on-screen a rendition that didn’t clash with what I imagined. Kudos to all involved.
Same here. Bought a Kindle version two years ago.
The council is hoisted on it's own petard in maintaining the facade that they rule with universal unified support without hostages. Mariko (and Toranaga) has called their bluff by just demanding to leave Osaka with Toranaga's hostage and new son. The moment she got the permit to do so after this (and the threat to commit seppuku), all the other hostages demand the same thing, and with that Ishido's grip on power cracks.
Perfectly played. GOT Japanese style.
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What a valedictory speech! Worthy of a Golden Globe nomination for her awesome performance in this fantastic saga! Our weekly family show. Can't wait to watch the finale!!!
Bro.
When I tell you Mariko in this scene and the whole episode gave me chills . I got goosebumps all over.
literal chills.
With only words and Marikos strong , firm gaze and character - she took control of the room. WITH JUST HER WORDS.
SUCH POWER.
This actress did a wonderful job for this role.
THIS IS WHAT A REAL BADASS FEMALE CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE HOLLYWOOD!
It was made by Hollywood... Streamed by a company owned by Disney... 😊
@GandalfOfRivia Hey, I'm just glad they got it right and respected most of the novel writing.
1:03 - this is like the Sengoku version of a rap battle lol, you gotta spit out some fire lines immediately
I always felt her poetry continued in her later conversation with ochiba.
Veiled In the haze if cold evening a leafless branch.
Death is not surrender.
A flower is only a flower because it falls.
And ochiba completes it in her letter to toranaga by adding the line. But which way the wind blows.
The most powerful performance of the whole series. She changed the future of Japan.
thats it. thats the crimson sky. Mariko slicing Isihido's dignity in full court is the massacre.
This is what stunning and brave looks like
Cate Randa shouldn't be so rude to her dad
I mean the dad keeps leaving pencil shavings everywhere
that smile at the end, though...
don't edit-out the pauses
It was always fun to see Ishido-chan put in his place after every time he thought he had already won. And this scene was the best of them all.
Tadanobu Asano has killed it all! in this entire series
What a scene!
Aw, I was hoping to see the badass tai-sabaki at the end!
Council: You will wait!
Mariko: No. I won't.
Council: B-but...!
Mariko: This decision is final
Council: 😳 K.
Poor Ishido, low born and missed all the subtle hints at what was to come. He heard that poetry and thought it was "a little bleak" but because hes not high born, he has no idea that Mariko is warning Ochiba. lol he finds out in the end though
I did not like her in the beginning, but now I am falling in love with her character.
Mariko: ｡◕ ‿ ◕｡
Ochiba: 👀
Mariko Sama 🥲
By far my favorite scene, she’s a bad you know what?
"Council"
Hence, the Crimson Sky.
She destroyed him with facts and logic
Ishido came from peasant stock.
This is how you do strong woman in film.
I have respect for women back then
just for future clips, this was the only channel that i could find this epic moment on...but...
Please leave the moments of silence and pauses in between speech. It really does have an effect on the scene and the cutting really takes away from the moment. I understand there may be issues with youtube or something, but maybe flip the footage and mirror it or something...
The speech in this show is incredibly important.
Doesn't it seem like there are three syllables in Japanese to express one syllable in English?
If this work in Season 1 is modeled on the eve of Sekigahara, I would like them to create "Battle of Sekigahara", the internal conflict after the unification, "Winter Camp" and "Summer Camp" in Season 2.
After the novel was finished, Game of Thrones quickly created a script and produced an additional season.
It would be a shame if the Shogun ended after season 1.
The story gets interesting from now on.
Sadly that is how the original Shogun book and series ended that it finished on the eve of Sekigahara and the fact that Blackthorne was destined to live out the rest of his days in Japan.
This is ending next week
Game of Thrones was dogshit from the gate since they never understood the books when they made the show & GRRM was so happy that Hollywood was finally paying attention to him just absolutely abandoned everything that he had been doing up to that point. He didn't just "stop writing" but cause his story of Hard SciFi about a post post-apocalyptic world that nuked themselves fighting the Hragain (Weirwoods) during the intergalactic Double War so long ago that they don't even remember it with only a few pieces of random High Technology still functioning that are treated as "magical."
There's no way to reconcile everything that ASOIAF set-up with what GOT produced.
Flowers are only flowers because they fall.
Lol...
Why cut out the pauses and rush through it? Why edit a masterful scene? 😂😢
Welp, I'm outta here.
Hey i want to leave
Adam and Eva have already gotten back to Eden
All of those choppy editing cuts were destroying this scene.
Note to self...... Don't watch Nukemclips.
The book is so much richer. This scene in the book is not dark and ominous.
Accelerated clip garbage. Leaves no room for nuance, and destroys the very fabric of being in the moment. This channel is for clicks.
why did u cut it 100 times? destroyed the whole scene. The original is much better!
Terrible editing
Way to butcher a scene with crap cuts. Why even bother…
The fallacy that the Japanese had some sort of honor is laughable. I guess if a lie is told long enough it really does become truth.