The All Out Brawl Out Explained
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2022
- CM Punk has brought disgrace to AEW with his interview after AEW's All Out 2022. All of this caused a huge fight to happen between him and the Elite and this could have huge ramifications in the future of AEW.
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#YoungBucks #CmPunk #KennyOmega - Sport
If the Elite were to leave AEW, would you continue to watch the product?
I WILL ALWAYS BE AEW FAN! no matter where someone goes...
Yeah bro I love aew
Fuck CM Punk. I want him fired. I never want to see him in a wrestling ring ever again. Get him out !
And fuck Tony Khan if he forget who built his company for him 3 years ago when he was absolutly clueless about the wrestling business.
AEW is dead without the elite as far as I'm concerned. I will not watch All Punk Wrestling.
Oh and I know that for some reason there is a lot of Corny fan out there who hate The Elite.
I don't know how you ended up here in the great channel of Sonny the Jobber, a great fan of AEW who understand the purpose of AEW better than you ever will.
The Bucks I can take or leave. There has been pretty long periods in AEW when they've done nothing and I didn't really notice their absence. Losing Kenny would really suck since I really did feel the void he left when he was out with his injuries. I want Hangman to stay since I think he's the guy who can carry the company into the future.
But I will keep watching AEW even if it loses all those guys. There is still a ton of stars (present and future) who can carry the company.
I'm not going to say this is the beginning of the end of AEW. If TNA is still surviving after almost 20 years of bad decisions, a clueless boss and never getting out of first gear, then AEW should be able to survive some backstage drama. This event did shake my confidence in AEW, though. I really hope this was a wake up call to Tony Khan and he finally decides to put his foot down and get control of the bigger egos in his company.
Tony is useless, they need someone else in charge.
@@Vertical-sandwiches He needs a GM to run the show is what he needs. Like William Regal.
The same goes for WWE, I lost count of all the bad decisions Vince McMahon have done over all these years and all these over stars that they let go off. I think AEW will surive much longer than some people think they will. I think some wrestling fans should stop being dramatic and just realize that drama and problem happen in wrestling companies.
Agree
@@The_OneManCrowd Keep Tony off the screen at all times and have Regal run the show on screen and also have a big hand in advising Tony off screen.
Remember when ppl loved Punk for calling out those in power who abuse it and now they hate him for the same reason 😂 😂
Right ?
That's because people realize he's a fraud. He only calls out those in powers when things don't go exactly how he wants them to make him look good. He doesn't give a crap about anyone else. His whole schtick is being a whiny crybaby and people are sick of it and see through it.
I think both parties are to blame but the person who should take the most of it is Tony Khan, who needs to handle business and take charge of his company.
@@andrewvincent7299 hangman threw the first punch when his title run was about to end. Don’t blame him cuz his run was so disappointing for a two year journey, but u don’t want to fuck with punk when punk has a mic.
@@heroinabuser5980 what's he gonna do quit
This backstage drama took all the attention away from the return of MJF where it should have been his shining moment and to gain steam again for his run.
And Punk knew that, but he still stole all of MJF's thunder. So much for doing right by the younger guys.
If anything this only gives ammunition for MJF in his future promos!!
@@fattiger6957 When I remember the first promo of Punk when he claimed he would help the young guys... In fact he only gave a crippling blow to the careers of the guys who built the company which allowed his return. His AEW run so far elevated nobody but himself. What a liar.
@@Kafei01 Exactly. And at the same time, there's Bryan Danielson who never virtue signaled about helping the young guys. Yet he helped elevate both Wheeler Yuta and Daniel Garcia, two guys who were previously glorified jobbers.
Feuding with Punk didn't even help Darby or MJF.
what goes around comes around lets mot forget his whole debacle near wardlows big moment and how he took steam out of him
It’s so obvious that Punk thought this was going to be a pipe bomb like WWE…brought out soda and cupcakes as props to help with the memes…but he forgot that he’s 42 now, has regressed a LOT in the ring and has a public rep on the edge of being a prick, and this just tipped it over the line. Instead of creating a badass meme… he just made himself a cringy one. Tough to see him come back from this tbh. Finally burnt his last bridge, with company’s and the fans
Well said! The in ring regression is one of the most astonishing things. Watching Hangman and Mox have to eat the pin killed the credibility for me instantly. I never thought he was a very good worker but the state 2022 Punk is diabolical, especially for a company that has tried to set itself apart as the place for wrestlers to really get their working boots on.
He’ll be fine if he wasn’t so damn injury prone his wrestling has been decent I agree with everything thing else you said tho
According to the WWE marks on Reddit it’s been the beginning of the end for AEW like 20 times now.
Yall Fanboys can't talk about wwe Fanboys..... If you have a problem then go fix the company your damn self...
Well, they are right. I watch both companies and AEW has been spiraling downward ever since while WWE is making gold with The Bloodline and Sami Zayn. Your own EVP Cody Rhodes is over in WWE whereas TK couldn't do shit with him.
In 20 years there’s gonna be a Dark Side of The Ring Documentary on The CM Punk and Elite situation
Can’t wait 🍿
Punk is the definition of you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a Villain. Hope they can set aside their differences and work together but even if they leave, we still got guys like Mox and Chris Jericho alongside young talent such as MJF and DG
Punk is all about punk bro that the issue 😭😭😭
Im not sure Punk might be entirely wrong abut the Elite given how they fell out with Cody and other things said but he didnt have solid proof
@@finnbalor8021 could also be Cody decided rather than be on the B show with WWE castaways in the main spots it made more sense to be the main event in wwe
@@amcdonald7479 not at all. He left something he built for an uncertain future given how petty WWE is with people who were stars elsewhere
@@finnbalor8021 Cody is a smart man like his father. I'm sure his contracts how he wanted it. Ul see him as wwe champ 100%
No one cared what Hangman said. For those who don’t watch the dirt sheets, it could be construed as Hangman meant he was taking someone’s spot. I was there live for him calling out Hangman and it was just as confusing to everyone else in the crowd. The MJF reference was much more direct than Hangman’s. CM Punk is the problem.
This was how it was for me. The hangman thing to me was just a run of the mill promo. I wouldn’t have thought twice about it had Punk not reacted like he did. Same applied with the Perry shit that led to getting fired. So many of the slights he perceived nobody would’ve ever thought twice about had he not reacted the way he did each time. All of it went the way it did because of the way he responded fo things.
I knew that drama was going to be running rampant in AEW the moment Punk showed up. I always felt weird about him since he left WWE. When I really thought about everything he accomplished there yet he still constantly moaned and complained, I stopped seeing him as the hapless victim he tried to portray... The fact that he worked at Fox doing the Smackdown backstage show, yet WWE still didn't resign him should have spoke volumes. Dude has become a well known sh*t starter.
Not only that but ever since Triple H took over WWE now there was rumors that many AEW stars have a more option to go to WWE once their contract expired.
I would like to add something: It has been speculated that Larry bit Kenny Omega and everyone wanted to let Ace Steel take the blame for it. A dog could easily get exited/scared by the commotion and panic from everyone else, and I doubt anyone wanted to risk Larry getting put down because of the stuff that happened.
If a serious investigation is being conducted, this will be very easy to determine if it's true or false. Plus I don't think anyone would put a frenchie to sleep for biting someone, that's reserved for dogs who are just to dangerous to let go and... Larry just ain't it, you know
@@oyeaxD I do agree; human bite marks are probably completely different from dog bite marks. I don't know if they were completely serious with that theory, anyway.
Larry is too small to run in and bite someone without getting hurt
Do you follow this show?
AEW created an atmosphere of "shooting". That was a mistake from day one, but lots of fans liked it. They liked it when Jericho talked about bad creative after fans chanted We The People. Fans liked it when Punk and MJF took shots at Miz. Now when Punk continues that unprofessional nonsense by calling out The Bucks, mocking PWG and Hangman Page those same fans get all upset. The "shooting" never should have been a part of AEW's dna. It was always going to go badly. Punk was right about a lot of what he said. The way he said it and where he said it were totally out of place and insubordinate. Looking at AEW's brief history, why wouldn't he feel comfortable doing what he did? The boss goes on Twitter and pats himself on the back over ratings. I hoped that this situation would teach TK a lesson, but MJF's promo makes me think that it didn't.
This video is actually the secret origin story of how Tony Khan becomes Dark Tony Khan
Was dynamite good this week? Yes. Will it be good without punk? Yes. Will it be good without bucks and omega? Yes. I'm hoping they drop punk and keep omega and the bucks. Punk is the problem
Omega should stay. Punk needs to go.
All poor babies... Yall sad because yall little wrestling company having high school drama
Too many people backstage at AEW have been keeping their mouths shut about the ridiculous crap the EVP's have been pulling. Cody and Brandi, FTR, Jake Roberts, Arn Anderson, Brian Cage, Shawn spears and Tully Blanchard, just to name a few, have had issues with them but are keeping their mouths shut out of misguided respect, I guess, for Tony Khan. If all of those issues were public today, and they will be eventually, I think people would have a very different opinion about Punk's actions and the reasons behind them.
@@ceejluige4816 wait who’s evp, haven’t watched wrestling in a long time
CM Punk will never change.
Fragile ego, fragile body, weak mind, weak spirit.
He might be a draw but it's too dangerous to keep him.
I also like formulating my opinions whole cloth from pro wrestling promos
Why someone talking that can’t even get go outside and do something with it😭
They had a fight at the same night they won the championships? They are the true fighting champions. 😂
😂😂😂😂
See what u did there 😂😂 clever
The Elite wont leave AEW. Punk will.
let's hope so
The recent actions of CM Punk make me disappointed because the rivalry that got me into wrestling was CM Punk and Jeff Hardy in 09. Punk was my favorite wrestler for the longest. When he left wrestling I was devastated. For years I thought wwe was in the wrong for letting him go but after the media scrum in aew I think wwe did the right move and released him. Releasing him on his wedding day was a uncalled for move but releasing him was probably best for business. Ryback probably was right about the things he says about Punk.
When a guy is despise by half of the guys who worked with him (the other choosing to remain silent), then he can blame the other all he want, he is the problem.
They didn't release him on his wedding day on purpose it was a coincidence
@@Kafei01 you can easily be despised when you’re passionate about something everyone else plays around with. Look at the people who despise vs the people who don’t and you’ll see the difference in the type of people.!
2021: cm punk said I love these kids
2022: fuc* them kids
That was really funny 😆 🤣
Sonny The Jobber, this is a great video.
I've had a few great insightful debates about what's happened in the pro wrestling world over the past week.
You've nailed for me 💯👍🏻
I'm not taking any sides in this situation whatsoever. Everybody was in the wrong (Punk, Hangman, The Elite, Ace, and TK)
Hangman is wrong for going into business for himself and basically opened pandora's box to this entire situation
Ace is wrong for basically throwing the chair at Nick that could've killed him and biting Omega
The Elite is wrong for having the altercation with Punk and possibly leaking info that accused Punk of something he more than likely didn't commit whatsoever
Punk is wrong for his rant in the media scrum (justified or Unjustified) that embarrassed the company all because of his inability to let go of grudges (punk should consider taking anger management) and having the altercation with the elite
And TK is wrong for letting this entire Punk/Elite Situation get as far as it did
Nobody looks good in this situation whatsoever. I hope while everybody is away from each other, they can all reflect on what they did wrong and hopefully work things out because this situation does not give them a good rep for themselves or the company they work for. All should be ashamed of themselves
Anger Management or even therapy should be a part of the suspension for Punk. Eddie Kingston reportedly had to take an anger management course before his suspension was up.
It's undoubtedly a massive hot mess but it's not the beginning of the end, it's just proof that the inmates shouldn't run the asylum (not that any more was needed after WCW). TK is such a shrewd businessman but lack of running a wrestling promotion no doubt led to the naive move of placing EVP titles on talent, he's clearly learning from that and will change the way things are done - I've absolutely no doubt they'll continue to grow and thrive
If the Elite were to leave, I'd instantly stop watching the industry, not just AEW. The Elite are professional wrestling to me and to quote someone on Twitter, if that happened, "I'm scared of the person I'll become."
Also, great video, Sonny!
It just wrestling and entertainment bro relax
@@Dontmatter215blahblah Wrestling means a lot to me, it's gotten me out of very dark places, so no it's not "just entertainment" for me. It means so much.
@@MJFinn shut up.
@@CantRead1 No.
I wouldn’t care. The Elite besides Hangman and Rhodes aren’t that good and are just overhyped, overrated, and over-exaggerated jokes.
They’re also hella hypocritical.
This is the best and most unbiased video I’ve seen on this subject and I’m officially subscribed. Please keep up the good work 👍🏼.
I think every locker room has drama, we just live in an era of social media where we can watch that drama unfold in real time. AEW isn’t unique in this. It doesn’t have a drama problem unique to anywhere else. Some will say WWE would have not let this behind the scenes drama play out, Vince McMahon would’ve added more fuel to the fire 😅
Man, i was so happy when PUNK came in last year, ,i thought man, this is the best time to be a pro wrestling fan! NOW fast forward a year and look how he turned the company upside down. I like watching him wrestle but MAN THIS GUY HOLDS A GRUDGE. I am in with AEW originals in this one. Lets be optimistic as TK didn't give a free pass to anyone in the whole scenario. The company is fine without him and should focus on their own talent, guys who have potential and are young.
Jack Perry saw this video and said hold my beer
AEW WILL NEVER DIE...remember this
Vince learned after dealing with Shawn Michaels & the Montreal Screwjob
Cody Rhodes played no role in this. Punk wasn't upset about the Elite letting Cody go because they didn't have anything to do with Cody leaving. Cody left AEW because he asked for a lot more money than he's worth and Tony rightfully said no.
I don't think it is the end of AEW. But TK needs to get it together and make up with the elite.
Tony needs to get his shit together period. And so do the EVPS. The situation should've never escalated this far.
I wouldn't be surprised. If the elite go to wwe.
I would I don't think they will leave at all
I hope Tony will fire Punk, bring the Elite back, get some more help to handle backstage and booking. I don't see Kenny at WWE. I think he would go to Japan. But it would break my AEW heart. The Bucks are good but Kenny is amazing and i hope he will stay till the end of his career.
Bringing punk in was a good decision for fan extension. But this interim title thing was a bullshit. Tony should have vacated the title because in this situation the validity of AEW Title is also looking vague. Without The Elite there is no AEW.
Yes 100% agree 👍
So punks “enemy “ omega carried the dog out off the room hmmm if this isn’t a little story lmao
This is cross-platform media coverage of a live television drama sports event.
This is a work-shoot and it’s brilliant. It’s going to MAKE AEW, not break AEW.
I’m saying this objectively. This is great long-term storytelling that includes so many different people.
THIS is the type of stuff that will draw CASUAL fans. Show a video like this to anyone who doesn’t watch wrestling and they’ll probably say that’s an interesting story. It may draw many of these non-wrestling fans and casuals to the product.
It’s all drama, and everyone is talking. When they say that “this could be on dark side of the ring” that’s legendary status.
If it's a work, it's a bad one. It's actively driving away AEW's stablished audience. I almost don't watch last weeks episode, because frankly I'm tired of all the drama and I watched wrestling to have fun, not to figure out if my favourite show is gonna die next week. I don't want to see Punk in my screen again, and that's coming from someone that up until the aftermath of the fight was reported, was the biggest Punk mark and thought it was all the greatest work. This ain't it.
Ur such a fucking nerd who knows nothing about wrestling, it’s not a work, Kenny omega and the bucks wouldn’t touch kayfabe with a 6 foot pole.
@@oyeaxD you sound like a damn baby
Not gonna lie his character in heels is pretty funny 😂
Click baity title; I see this as a blemish in AEW sure but not the end of the company.
Hell i just shared this video on Facebook so ill just say thank you you summed up and presented what miny of us are thinking so right on keep on keeping on and kicking ass
The Elite CM Punk rivalry will be talked for ages.
Also, I think CM Punk is plotting all this things with the boys so that he goes a full blown supervillain.
In WWE with restrictions, he was a menace.
In AEW without restrictions, He will be the most hated man in the history of the multiverse past, present and FUTURE
There's a thing called go-away heat. Punk is hated in the wrong way by many, they don't want to see him or have him in the show, kinda like Sammy Guevara when he had that TNT feud with Scorpio Sky and had just started appearing with Tay and unlike MJF for example who we love to boo.
Hahaha! Love your edits! Gives me a breather from the tense situation.
You bring up some serious points and you're take on it is spot on
Khan's got a lot of work to do in getting back that locker room! It didn't start with punk it started when he took over as head Booker and let Cody go like you mentioned.
If we HAD lose one of them, for the love of god, let it be Punk. The Elite and All *ELITE* WRESTLING goes together and makes the most sense. Without them, AEW loses its heart
The Elite are trash. they’re just as egotistical as Punk. If we had to lose 1 it should be the Elite. If not all of them.
Why do people change the channel when the Elite segments are on?
10:36 *The athletic MMA star tore his triceps lifting an excessively frosted chocolate cupcake*
I would/will continue to watch AEW with or without Punk or The Elite. Just like how I watched New Japan with or without the elite. And how I watched WWE at the time without Punk. Wrestling and life goes on with or without them. Punk said it best He’s just a spoke in the wheel and just like the Elite are a spoke in the wheel. Overall I just hope all of them can crush it and continue working harmoniously. This isn’t the first time wrestling drama has happened and won’t be the last. So in the meantime we just watch the product, the wrestlers who ARE there and busting their asses. Sidenote: this isn’t just regarding Punk but I hate the whole injury prone jokes when it comes to wrestlers cause a majority say they understand wrestling is hard on the body but then make fun of these guys when they get injured or when it’s hard on their bodies. Maybe it’s just something in wrestling culture that’s just dumb/counter productive on these guys not feeling pressured to go out there even though their bodies are in shambles which makes me think of Kenny Omega and even Jon Moxley who’s carrying the company now.
Congratulations on 10k
No one’s ever really gone…
None of these guys (Punk included) would work at at WWE, the “elite” would have to slow down there style which I don’t think they would want to do and Punk for obvious reasons wouldn’t get along with Trips
This guy clearly watches Pro Wrestling Bits🔥
what is that?
I hope the elite stay in aew
They are my favourite trio in aew
CM punk in WWE, is my hero.
CM punk in AEW.
Don't ruin my favourite wrestling show.
If the ELITE leave then AEW needs to be rebuild.
CM punk leaves AEW is salvageable
The Elite aren't interested in going to WWE. Wrestlers ask about conditions and pay with other companies just to know what the best deals are.
They aren't leaving, just playing their cards.
I mean thanks for explaining the video, but also seems like you were a little biased against punk. Wasn't it hangman that kinda opened Pandora's box here though? He didn't have to go to business by himself. He's not really innocent
Be honest with yourself though. Would you have thought much about hangman’s promo had Punk not blown up like he did? I had no idea the promo was an issue until the scrum. To me it was just a promo. Reactions play a big role into how big an issue becomes. Even if the promo was wrong it didn’t warrant the scrum.
Vince McMahon was many things but a pushover was NEVER it. TK needs to grow a backbone. Stop kissing up to ur employees and be a leader. Idk how TK is running a multi-billion dollar of his dads company as a pushover that has his employees walk all over him. No wonder MJF threatened to run away unless he gets BETTER pay.
The Elite & CM Punk are too valuable to AEW so for Tony Khan to fire them or let them go to WWE would be damaging to his business more so than the so called controversy think the 3 pc & a soda Masvidal gave to Leon Edwards , the punch up after Nurmagedov Vs Mcgreggor etc & that's real unlike pro wrestling.AEW should make them have a on screen feud with each other regardless of whether they sort out their differences in real life or not .
Maybe CM PUNK'S handling the things were wrong, but quite honestly put yourself in his shoes. Imagine you being blamed for something you never did and having idiots barking at you like you're the reason for someone's firing. I love the ELITE to death but still Punk was bombarded with false accusations.
Excellent video, once again. My opinion is Punk couldn't keep up with AEW's talent and his pride wouldn't let him admit that (to himself and/or publicly), so he decided that running down the talent and the EVPs was a way to make him look like he's too good to be there. But, with his in-ring performance, I don't think anyone is buying that.
Let's be honest. They couldn't keep up with him promo wise either (something that's far more important than "5 star matches).
@@natebaxter9551 nah they could, and they've done it many times.
@@RiskOfRayne who besides MJF?
@@natebaxter9551 exactly No one.
The only person who can make Punk look like a joke in AEW is MJF.
Thanks for making this
Great Video
MJF : My return will be the most talked about thing after All-Out
CM Punk : hold my non-alcoholic beer
Now, if the Elite has problems with Japan, problems with Cody, problems with BPCClub, problems with FTR, problems with Punk, who do you think is the problem? A veteran that -because he has the back of being the main draw in the entire company- doesn't buy shit from others (plus having that exact track record of actions in his life)?
Did this guys really thought that spreading shit about Punk plus surprising him unnoticed on national television (a never in wrestling) were going to breaking him or that he wasn't going to blow the shit back to them? Really? To the one professional wrestler in the company that sold millions X REAL?
REAAAALLLYY STUPID KIDS MOVE
Punk sounds like a hypocrite.
Used to be the guy who doesn't listen to vets and continues to do his thing.
Gets mad when Hangman does the same thing.
Says "if you have a problem, come find me"
Fights when they come find him
Should be obvious by now...
Quitting is what punk is good at.
very well said good video
I wouldn't say it started with the scrum, I'd say it started with Hangman shooting on Punk in the ring.
I like your non biased views on the situation
Thank you for this 😍😍😍
I love your storytelling.
I was born in '98 so I didn't see it as it transpired but going back to Bret Hart is it not likely a man who idolizes him would act the same? and to make things a bit worse off, it's a man who seems to not have earned the respect of his peers like Hart had but feels entitled to it?
Glad to see Punk turning into Hogan.
I really think punk should’ve went to TNA!
The Year 2030
And kids that's how kenny became wwe undisputed champion & young bucks became the tag team champions
And talking about aew that's how mjf carried the company until the elite returned !!
(LoL I am living in imagination)
I haven’t watched wwe since 2012 but if Kenny goes, I’m watching weekly like I never left. It’d be crazy to have all elite wrestling without the elite. I like tony but his mark-ness is showing. Punk hasn’t defended his 2 reigns because of injury And on that alone he should be choosing the elite over punk for the long term but nope. Tony has a lot of maturing to do and he wants to be like Vince or hunter so bad. He needs to let somebody else run the day to day and booking and just generally oversea things. And stop sitting in those pressers. Kenny, Jericho, mox, danielson and cole should be playing hot potato with the title for a few years using those reigns to brings guys like Sammy, mjf, jungle boy etc. up to a main even level.
Best Take I’ve seen, BayBay!!!
I would still watch AEW without The Elite or Punk however, I'd rather The Elite stay in AEW over Punk any day of any year.
In my opinion Punk is a heat magnet, however that's what you need in wrestling & entertainment, eyeballs on your product and that's exactly what punk did. The bucks on the other hand being EVPs shouldn't have gone into Punks locker room and none of this would have happened. Those kids are not fit to be in position of power, no wonder Cody left.
Very well done ✅
How can anyone take CM Punk seriously? He’s as athletic as a fish on land. He complains relentlessly. He can’t do a high five without breaking his wrist. Pathetic.
TK has to choose. CM Punk or the ELITE. I don't think they can "co-exist"
Does anyone think this is just work? I'm interested in listening..
The Year 2030
And kids that's how kenny became wwe undisputed champion & young bucks became the tag team champions
And talking about aew that's how mjf carried the company until the elite returned !!
they would never cut it in WWE. they’d be jobbers
That fish statement is out right budda like thank you and yes ill probably steal that quote from you at some point but p.s. fellow wrestling fan I will give you credit four you're gift of a wise quote
I feel like the Elite comes away here way to easy. I feel like Omega for example has also big heat with Will Ospreay. Omega literally did a shoot promo on Will after an AEW show went off air, said in it it wont get released and it got released on CZcams anyway. Will posted after that, that he will never ever wants to do anything again with AEW, while Omega is there. Now Omega took his title in Japan with promos that literally buried Will, so i think Will is genuently pissed about it. Let's see at the next Forbidden Door if Ospreay will show up. If he doesn't it is kinda confirmed, that this was no work.
Also before the CM Punk media scrum, the Elite literally buried people left right and center. Now they are jobbing to literally everyone. Feels like either they are getting punished, or they feel guilty for pushing AEWs biggest draw away.
Thank you for this. I finally understand what the hell is going on
why would cm punk give af. they need him way more than he needs them
15:35 "You're Welcome"
-Technical Workrate Productions; Who have an ENTIRE Series entitled CM Punk is a Whiny Crybaby
Ya know this is what happens when you're Too Friendly with your employees instead of actually Being Their Boss.
"The first 2 years of AEW were perfect." Yeah okay. Whatever you say buddy lol.
I'd say the most professional person in this whole situation was cabana. From my knowledge, he didn't say, or do anything in this situation
I do not see how Addam went into business for himself. Punk however did go into business for himself twice. The thing about Punk is that the WWE did not want to work with Punk. From what I get, Punk should never get to be the champion or the center of any company. Once he gets to be champion he starts claiming he is hurt, does not want to work and wants to be seen as the best of all time without working for it. WWE made Punk popular, Vince wrote the Pipebomb that made Punk famous. Like it or not Punk is not known for having the best matches, he has great matches but people know him for the pipebomb not the matches.
Daaamm Maan They Were Right, Triple H, Eddie Kingston, MJF And Hangman Adam Page All Warned Us About Who CM Punk Really Was And We Never Listened, And We Payed The Price For It Along With AEW. Shiitt
00:38 the exact reaction 😂
Hmm.. I like this. I subscribed.
I agree with cm punk if it means he has to leave the company because of colt cabana then yes coz that guy did him dirty
AEW was far from perfect before all this... there were fantastic moments & at times the trajectory felt like it was going up, Up, UP! ... but this didn't just happen overnight, it's been building since the start. Tony's lack of firm leadership & unwillingness to delegate to experienced employees (Arn, JR, Malenko, Regal, etc..) combined with the complete inability from anyone in the company or it's die hard fans to take even the SLIGHTEST bit of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism directly lead to this situation.
I want AEW to succeed, the more profitable wrestling companies there are, the better it is for ALL talent
But Tony NEEDS to delegate more, not only in talent relations, but booking in general. He's SO erratic with everything
Very insightful take on the situation. I would agree with your assessment completely but it seems that there is an element of this situation that you have not considered. The business standpoint.
If they were all just contractors hired by AEW then it would be simple. Punk would for sure be the problem. But that's not the case. The Elite (not including Hangman) are EVPs of AEW. They are executive officers of the corporation that Punk works for. Imagine if your bosses were hostile towards you, possibly spread rumors to hurt your reputation despite you being their best employee, and then got into a fist fight with you when you got fed up and responded to the rumors and hostility. It's a whole different scenario there because of one thing: Power. The power dynamic is not equal. The Elite NEVER should have stormed the locker room. No matter what. It was a stupid move. They should have handled it with Tony like actual managing officers. If they were publicly traded and I was a shareholder, I would have sold every share I owned after hearing about executives getting into brawls with top earners. That is inexcusable and intolerable behavior for someone with that much power in a corporation. So if you want to talk about worker's rights, consider that aspect.
So while I agree that it's probably best to let Punk go because his presence is a net negative at this point, I also argu that The Bucks and Omega MUST get relieved from their Executive Vice President roles. Whether they leaked the Colt Cabana stuff to the press or not, the fact that they conducted themselves so unprofessionally in retaliation to Punk's unprofessionalism just shows that they have no business holding such authority over their peers. Plus it's just a terrible look for the company. Companies have canceled investments, sponsorships, endorsements, and ad campaigns for much less. Keeping them as EVPs hurts business as well. I'm not saying fire them. I'm saying they shouldn't be executives anymore.
Nobody knows what exactly happened in that locker room. We don't know who started the brawl. The Elite came to him, just as Punk asked for in his completely unprofessional public outburst.
@@SomePotato It doesn't matter what happened inside that locker room. What matters is that company executives thought it was a good idea to handle a problem employee brashly and without consulting with their boss first. Even if they never threw a single punch, it's not how you manage a company.
@@TitoMcFadden I disagree. Not everything needs to involve the boss. And to me bashing your company, boss and coworkers publicly is far more egregious.
@@SomePotato They certainly weren't marching over there for a friendly conversation. If they waited until after the press conference to talk to Tony about how to handle it, they could have dealt with Punk without a fight and without making the company look worse. If they were just wrestlers like everyone else, then I'd have no problem with any of it. Let the boys handle their own business. This is different and it's solely because of their roles in the company. Keeping them as EVPs basically tells everyone in the company that they're untouchable. It's a terrible look for the company as a whole.
I know im two months late with this, but I just want to say that this is the perfect take of the whole situation.
put punk in roh & elite in aew.
difference here is that the moneymark is also bonafide wrestling mark--he can run aew at a loss for YEARS
Here's how I feel Tony made the right decision by suspending CM Punk and the elite and striping them of their titles it was the right call I don't believe he's not going to fire them because he knows how valuable they are and also they are in the verge of getting brand new TV deals they're not going nowhere let them do that time being suspended and once they come back what things out apologize to Tony Khan into the fans and everyone in the locker room and continue moving on as business as usual that's all because I want to see a e w get better they already doing fantastic well I want them to be successful they just got to get their act together and Tony need to start being more better of a leader because we need him to be