[GIFTED} Replaceable Blade Carbide Router Bits from Banggood Plus Law and Safety
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2024
- They're a great idea in theory, router bits with replaceable blades. You can often turn the blade when one edge gets dull and, when the blades are done, you can buy a new set, hopefully saving money (and waste) over buying a whole new router bit. Not much to dislike.
I have 3 of the offerings available on Banggood to show you here (who have a sale coming up running to the 21st so watch the prices!) and there's little to complain about. You'll no doubt see them making many cameos in my videos this year.
The end of the video I take the opportunity to talk about safety and legality with regards BS-EN standards. This prompted by a recent video by @10MinuteWorkshop reviewing a similar and large replaceable blade router bit.
Safety is important and especially in woodworking. Not least because it seems very much one of those disciplines where any old Joe can have a go. Say it quietly, but even in the professional arena. It's just not regulated like the sparks and pipes trades for instance. Probably why it has one of the highest incident rates in all manufacturing!
Hope there's something of interest here for you. Links to the Banggood bits and Peter Millards 10MinuteWorkshop video below.
3 Knife Flush Trim Router Bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/Dvmt...
2 in 1 Router Bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/3GKH...
60 Degree Router Bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/vDvV...
Peter Millards original video - • Is this even legal? Sh... - Jak na to + styl
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Excellent video Stew! Very thorough and well explained - great work! 🙌👍👍
As always 👍🏻
Thanks Peter. If this video taught me anything, it's that there are some topics that are too dry, even for me. HS being one😂
Terrific video Stu, interesting reviews, I quite like the look of the dual chamfer/round over bit. Excellent chat about the safety of routering. It can be an intimidating tool for a hobbyist, so some great tips for a home woodworker.
Cheers mate. I really like the 2 in 1 bit. Health and safety is a headache but I thought it was worth talking about, especially with these type of bits as, some of the comments on Peters video seemed a bit wary of them. 👍
👍👍👍 Great information. Thank you
Cheers buddy👍
I paid around 70 quid for the Amana tools version of that 60 degree v bit, I've just ordered the Banggood one to compare, sounds like good value if the inserts hold up, cheers
Nice one. Yeah, I paid a decent chunk of change for my replaceable blade Titman and Fraiser cutters. Curious myself to see how well the banggood hold up by comparison. 👍
I really liked that you took the time and covered the safety and legality part. I disliked how Peter handled that in his video a lot: Mentioning it several times, but then no explanation and if the viewer is not familiar with it, this is just confusing!
With cheaper tools like this, I always wonder how the price difference to more expensive ones is justifyable. Can you say something about this in regards to festool or ENT?
In fairness to Peter, I got the impression his tongue was firmly in cheek and, if nothing else, was a conversation starter. I have previously looked into doing a more comprehensive comparison between budget and premium bits, by sending a couple for metallurgical analysis. Each test costs about £150+ so, for replaceable blade bits, they'd need 2 tests each for body and blade. I'm not quite committed enough to drop £600+ for a YT video though. I don't make that much from YT in a year! I might try and reach out to a college to do it 👍
@@BischBaschBosch My reply just went into a loading loop. Therefore, just in short:
1. Thanks for your time/work for your videos! :)
2. Maybe I did not get Peter's irony.
3. Do not start with deep analysis, but maybe obvious differences and/or if the Chinese bits are correct in size/angle/straight?
I don't use tools that often, but hate to spend money on bad stuff. Which sometimes I do not even realize (or too late), because I don't have a direct comparison to good products. Hence, I tend to buy "overquality" stuff for my projects, I guess.
@@kaktus3175 Yeah, comments do that sometimes. They disappear now and again too. I just want to do a metallurgical analysis as that will be most telling. In my experience, cheap or premium bits all measure correctly (angles, diameter etc) and cut well for the most part. What they're made of, that could be interesting.👍
That’s very informative Dude. Thank you. I’ll add this - if you are a company using unconventional bits, write down the risk assessment, and if you have an issue, buckle up. I do engineering investigations, sometimes for defendants in HSE prosecutions. Even if the HSE lose the main prosecuting allegation, they will find something else in the business that is non compliant, and get a conviction that way. They also invoice defendants for the (unlimited) cost of their investigation. Conversely, the HSL are excellent and generally very fair in their investigations and reports.
That's kind of the size of it - risk assessment, put your best body on it and strap in😳 The HSE even say themselves that woodworking is a peculiar one in that, no piece of wood is the same and it, more than any other manufacturing, puts operators hands near blades by necessity. Nightmare! I think sometimes, instances such as you mention, they're out to make an example. 🤷♂️
@@BischBaschBosch I think it’s more than that - it’s a bit like a cult where health and safety is an Old Testament god that must be obeyed or locusts, child sacrifice etc follow (and bills). There is an unhealthy, and unrealistic, zeal that goes along with most of the cases I’ve been involved with. They are analogous to the teachers in the adage about if you can do it, do it, if you can’t do it, teach.
Really well presented 👍
Also I have a similar single blade 12.5mm from Wealden tools as doing mason mitres in kitchen work tops used to ruin a cutter very quickly. Due to the rubbish they are made from, even seen sparks coming off 😮. So I went over to one of the replaceable blade ones and never broke the blade or come loose.
Oh yeah, I had that a few times - sparks from a worktop. The replaceable blade flutes are great though👍
Very informative. Great video.
I've got the bit that Peter Millard tested. I haven't used it yet but after the advice he gave and having watched this video I am better equipped to set it up and use it safely.
Nice one. Yeah, just drop the speed to between a 1/3 and 1/2, Featherboard if you can an have at it., steady as she goes👍
Have you tried 💎 (PCD) bits? They should last like 30 or 50 times longer than carbide ones.
I've got a pcd end mill I used for cleaning up some aly parts. Not used the ones for wood routing yet though.