Compression Router bits from Banggood Review - After 6 Months Use!
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
- Some have you may have noticed these bits popping up in my videos over the past few months. Here then finally is my Review. Links below.
Featured are 2 bearing guided compression bits and one spiral compression bit for wood routing. They feature alternating blades/cutters so that they down cut into both face edges of the work piece, giving improved edge cut quality as a result.
The bits were gifted for review by Banggood.
Banggood links below are affiliate links so, if you use them to purchase these bits or anything else, I may make a small commission at no extra cost to you - and thank you if you do!
Bearing top compression bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/vKGJ...
Bearing bottom compression bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/KDGC...
Spiral compression bit - uk.banggood.com/custlink/mDDJ...
CMT 2050 Formula blade cleaner - www.scosarg.com/cmt-2050-500m...
Rutlands Flush Trim with Up/Down Shear (Compression) bit - www.rutlands.com/pp+routing-r... - Jak na to + styl
a genuine review after several months of use is invaluable to me , a quick review before real world use isnt as useful. cheers
Thanks Kevin. True enough mate. Impressed with the edge these have kept.👍
It is your channel and I completly understand that you may feel like a "cheap low end worker", doing all the hard work running the chanel, but someone else pocket the profit. It seems to be a new drug to watch gear reviews and buying more than needed, but not actually putting those tools to work much. To repeat the classic "the best tool for the job is the one you already have".
Thanks and please do what makes YOU happy!!
Appreciate the comment mate, thanks. I do think reviews are useful. Nice to see kit actually in someone's hands or in use, as well as (When presented honestly) helping the viewer sort the good from the bad. You're right though. We don't actually NEED most of it. Since making this, I've dropped a couple of the worst offenders as I saw it. One of them unfortunately a British manufacturer. Have continued to do reviews for Banggood. Bizarrely, they're actually one of the fairer companies to work with - with regards being an affiliate anyway. 🤷♂️
thank you, welcome back. reviews appreciated.
Love the video and your message about tool review type videos!
I can understand your reticence to doing reviews but I hope you keep doing them only because I just stumbled across your channel because of this video. Look forward to watching more of your videos, looks like a great channel!
Thank you man, I appreciate that. Hopefully then, you'll be pleased to know a do have a handful of reviews coming in the next couple of months.! I just needed a break I think.👍
Really like all of your videos, building videos as well as your reviews. Honest reviews after several time of real using are very valuable to me, hope you'll coninue these.
Thanks for the kind words. I will still do the odd review. Just won't be accepting items for review. It'll just be things I've bought and think deserve a shout.👍
Love many of your build videos. The review videos are an easy watch and useful - didn’t even know about this type of bit for example- but to be honest I haven’t missed them. So for me, it’s no problem at all to have a few less review videos.
Thanks Graham. Appreciate your feedback mate.👍
Interesting, and a big investment for me as a weekend woodworker. Reviews, I think you have the balance about right , bit I watch for your creative content and not the product placement / reviews. I will keep watching regardless of what happens with the reviews, its great and real content.
Thanks Paul. Yeah, I appreciate bits like this, even though cheaper than established brands still represent a bit of an investment for the now and again user. A 2 flute bit for a fiver will essentially do the same job. Just not as well or for as long. Get some oven cleaner to keep the bits clean for best performance is the best takeaway - applies to router bits £2 or £200!👌👍
I like both your build and review stuff so many thanks and the build ones are challenges for us less skilled
Thank you Bruce. I'll still do a bit of both, just won't accept any offers of tools for review. On builds, I figured the options for budget and basic builds, as well as techniques, are already really well covered by numerous channels. So I went instead with just building/designing what I want. I really hope it doesn't make anyone feel left behind in terms of skill. This is a craft where the learning never really ends, whether we're beginners, masters and everyone in between.👍
Love your reviews. Really down to earth and useful..👍
Thanks Jay. 👍
@@BischBaschBosch I wonder - what would be the use of a compression bit of you don't hit the top AND bottom of your work piece? The way you show using them here you could use a downcut spiral bit since the bit was shorter than the workpiece... And then come from the other side
@@mikec3546 It's a good question Mike. I perhaps should've talked about that. I can think of a couple though. First is - at least with these 21mm dia' type - they can really hog away material in a way I've never seen a standard spiral do. Second is, it saves you flipping work if cutting deeper than the bit. Your first plunge effectively down cut, the second, up cut. For me, this works well as I use templates and a router stabiliser set for that height. A right pain to flip over. One last reason would be that a down cut spiral will sometimes leave some furring at the tip (centre of the work being cut if you like). I've had this furring kind of snag before leaving little pits on certain woods (ash and iroko come to mind). Not an issue with compression bits I've found. They just generally cut better. Guess I could've just said that😂🤷♂️
Appreciate your candour and integrity. Tough one to manage, as you say they are getting a much better deal than a nominal item for them and postage. I suppose all you could do going forward is request a link so you can measure the traffic and get a meaningful cut.
Thanks mate. Appreciate the feedback. I do use affiliate links for Banggood. Of all the companies I worked with, I decided to continue with banggood as they're - perhaps surprisingly to some - by far the most generous and forthright with regards commission and affiliate sales data.
@@BischBaschBosch yeah I get that banggood as the retailer are more generous but as you say, the issue lies with the manufacturers. Don't know how this is addressed
I agree with what you said at the end. I am glad you feel the way you do and I think it helps your reviews as your feelings are implicit in how you review. That being said I hope you still continue to do reviews. I will remain subscribed either way.
Appreciated, thanks Paul. Yeah, if I pick something up I'll give it a review. Just won't be accepting items for review from companies anymore.👍
I really enjoy watching all your content and your reviews do tend to cover something different with more talk on real world usage. However I say push on with the content you want to make and share and just add in a few comments on new tools / accessories you've bought along the way
Cheers James. Yeah, that's the direction I'll go I think.👍
You're furniture videos are inspiring and totally appreciate they take way longer than a review video. Maybe you could do an end to end series from concept to chair would be interested in following the journey
Cheers Sam. Yeah, I've given that some thought as it happens. Maybe a series from design inspiration, design process, build and finishing type thing.🤷♂️
@@BischBaschBosch yes that would be great I know we've spoken before about where you get inspiration from and weather you use sketch or model and what point you switch
I'd love to see more of your design process too!
@@keefykeef Cheers Keith. I'll work on it.👍
I subscribed because you are a fellow brit with a skill far higher than mine will ever be and that I admire. As an active builder and very budget conscious I have appreciated your review videos especially your genuine plus points and negatives. What is best for you is something that you will eventually figure out but please still give us your honest opinion at least occasionally. Of course, still keep making your great videos regardless.
Very kind Ian. Much appreciated. I'll still do the occasional review. It'll just be stuff I've bought for a job rather than stuff I've been sent.👍
So...... here goes.
Router Bits. - These are great. I bought some this time last year. The were about £35/£40 but of course, everythings gone up a bit. Really nice cutting and an absolute steal for the price. I bought the chunky badboys but also some other smaller, narrower bearing guided up/downcut bits. They were only £9 or £10. Daylight robbery buying bits like that for such little £. I'd recommend them.
Reviews. - I'll stick around for non-review content and workshopy stuff. It's great. I'm sure a sizeable amount of us are happy seeing workshop projects, jig builds and so forth. There will always be 'reviews' on other channels if viewers want a 'review' video.
Well done for not being a YT shill and selling out/reviewing/promoting any old shit. It's hard to turn down $, especially in current times but it's commendable. I just unsubbed from a YT'r making clickbait videos and then disrepecting their subscribers calling them out. I'd much rather spend my time supporting genuine creators! Keep it up buddy.👏👏
Absolutely. I'm seriously impressed with them for the money Thanks for the kind words mate. Glad you'll stick around for the workshopy stuff 😁👍
@@BischBaschBosch 100% chap.!!
New to you, 2nd watch.
You must keep doing reviews!! Never forget it’s NOT about you it’s about what we like and will watch!! Otherwise just give up now.
Love the name by the way
Bob
England
I think reviews have value, particularly when they’re factual with the pro’s and cons. I know I’ve seen some items on your channel before I’ve seen them elsewhere and it’s put them on my radar for the future.
These bits for instance, I’ll definitely get a couple of those bigger compression bits from Banggood, I’ve just got to build the thing I’ll be putting them in first lol
They do mate. We all watch em I'm sure. Just not for me anymore.🤷♂️
I always enjoy your product review videos! No pomp. Straight to the point. That's commendable. I get that they can become tiresome. Your own good feeling is what's at stake here. I'm sure you'll make the right decision.
Thanks Richard. I'll still talk about and review some tools I think. Just won't be accepting items for review from companies anymore. 👍
@@BischBaschBosch Sounds like a good plan!
I like your videos with the variation. Builds reviews etc. especially like the long term versions such as this one. Your honesty is…. Refreshing pluses and minuses of the product.
On the routers, if it would not burn your hands due to the colour (yellow and black) I picked up a T10 trend router with transformer for £70. Sits in my router table while the DeWalt EK625 (Same router different case) does free hand stuff. Heck of a a lot of power. On the table glue the speed control magnet down (long story)
Thanks Doug. How dare you suggest I pollute my environment with black and yellow!!😂 In honesty, I'm not tied to any particular brand mate, despite how it looks. A lot of our fleet gear was dewalt back in the day. That said, I am sort of set on the idea of, if I do get a more powerful router, it'll be the big Mafell. If I don't sell a couple more chairs to pay for it though, I'll defo be looking at old 2000w+ routers - whatever the brand.👍
@@BischBaschBosch lol 😂. Just wanted to check that you would not burst into flames with another brand 😆
Mafell Festool beasts would be lovely bar the price
Great review and an excellent explanation of your options.
New subscriber so happy to see whatever you feel like doing.
Where is the accent from? Feel like you're from where i grew up in East Anglia?
Thanks mate. Appreciate that. Genuinely decent bits these. They're still hard at work today, helping shape my furniture. I'm from Cornwall (back there now) but, did live in the south east for a long time. Guess my accent is a bit of a mix.👍
@@BischBaschBosch cheers for getting back to me mate.
Ah haha, my spiritual home!
Kernow forever!!!
Ill be hunting out a deal on the bits.
Most of the ones I've seen tht are affordable are 1/4" and i much prefer using 1/2" wherever possible.
Anywhere else to check online?
Im in Aus now but ill check uk fleabay too perhaps.
Have a scrumpy for me.
One of the things I miss the most!
Ta!!
I really enjoy your channel and hope you will continue doing product reviews as I really value your opinion and could save me significant money either by purchasing something with solid performance at a good price or by avoiding the product altogether. However, if doing project videos Is what makes you happy, focus your time and attention there…if you don’t like what you’re doing what’s the point. Cheers!
Thanks mate. I'll defo still share my thoughts on gear I've bought or am using. Just won't be taking up any more offers of kit to review.👍
Much happier to see you making stuff
Stoked to hear it mate thank you.👍
I’ve got many trim bits that are part of sets,not good quality,they struggle with the lightest pass and always Leave burn marks. Maybe Father Christmas’ll do me a turn. Good demonstration and review. Thanks.
Cheers John. Well, if you've been nice and father Christmas is still taking lists, put one of these on it. 😁 Honestly though, cracking trim bits.
Spot on, mate, I enjoy a tool review, but there are far too many reviews on CZcams that are so light on detail with, at most, a few hours of use under their belt.
They are no more than a product demonstration video that I could get from the manufactures website. I understand CZcamsrs need to get some benefit out of the hard work they are putting in. It's a risky strategy to push out low-level unboxing/product demo videos on behalf of tool manufacturers that offer very little benefit to the viewer.
In saying this, I can personally attest to your tool reviews videos being some of the best I see on youtube.
Yeah, if you rush to get a review out, it's little more than a demo. Can still be interesting seeing how people get on with something outside a well rehearsed company demo. Nothing beats a "lived and worked with it" review though. Thanks for the kind words mate.👍
Your videos are amazing. Especially because of Bosch track system and what you do with them. Everyone seems to use festool. The other few who use Bosch are German or Russian woodworkers. You also provide amazing workaround, I was looking at Bosch track clamps, I thought 50 euros is too much. Came to your video, I realised because I don’t have any clamps at all, 50 is not bad deal for me when I factor in shipping and customs to Pakistan. Th massive headache of custom clearance. It takes 2-3 days to get 8 signatures to get an item released. If those 8 folks sat in a row, it would take 10 minutes max, but life 🤷♀️
Inshallah once I get track and benchdog items, I plan to try out some of the things you build. Right now for the life of me I can’t cut square.
Thank you mate! Always surprises me where my videos end up being watched in the world. Great to have a viewer in Pakistan! I thought our customs were bad (delays and charges mostly) but yours sound even worse. Hope you can get what you need. On square cuts, once you have a saw and guide rail, the biggest help is a rail square. They genuinely help you cut square panels quickly. 👍
@@BischBaschBosch thank you, I am going to order a fence, rail square, precision triangle (don't have any precision tools for reference), quad hinge and different quad dogs and bench dogs to figure things out. Might as well pay once and get things cleared through the customs. Luckily Bosch has local retailers here who are very helpful in getting my Bosch equipment ordered on a special order and they get it cleared with everything else so no trouble for me. None of the other brands are present here sadly, hilti is but their retailer has no clue about equipment so I don't bother them. Joys of internet, once you step into the baking world, you will become popular in places you never imagined 😁.
@@asderven Quite the shopping list! That'll do it though. Still mean to get the large triangle myself. If you do buy from BD and use my links, use my code BBBYT at the checkout for 5% off. Could save you a bit.👍
@@BischBaschBosch thank you, will do that, to me it is buy it once and use it for a lifetime thing. Including shipping, customs, I'll probably end up paying quite a bit, but well worth it. Hopefully in the future I can get others interested in woodworking, or at the very least make little custom gifts to wow my battery clients and business partners 🤭. The beginning is expensive and hard, but that is always the case with anything in life. But if I decide to do it, I might as well keep on challenging myself, improving my skills and help out others. I noticed this year, we have a very simple traditional bed frame made from wood and the middle is cotton, rope, or other material weaved in. In future if there is a flood or other natural disaster, I can set things up and help out that way. In floods with floating devices underneath, that he'd doubles as a floating device to carry people, food, animals to safety.
Commendably honest. Can't ask for more than that.
I took a punt on the tall version from Aliexpress - so far so good...
Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year!
Thanks Alisdair. The tall ones nice. Excels for a final finish pass I think. Yeah, banggood, aliexpress and often Wish will tend to stock the same things to varying degree.👍
i purchased these 6 months ago and i must say i used them on ply was impressed they are cheaper and maybe not used them enough but for the price they are a 9 out of 10
Nice one Anthony. You know I think they cut melamine faced board slightly better than naked ply and mdf. Still a nice cut on all though. Great in hardwood. I'd agree with your 9/10 for the money.👍
I’m going to be a dissenting voice because I like your review videos Stu, especially long term ones like this where you like and have used the product. I’ve bought a number of useful and fair priced tools as a result. The build videos are interesting but I could never aspire to your quality of workmanship, but I enjoy watching them. So my vote is to do a bit of both, don’t do reviews because you feel obliged, but review products you like and have used
Thanks Geoffrey. I will still talk about gear mate. Just not stuff I've been sent.👍
I watch all of your material because it is excellent. Perhaps you could do the affiliate link commission thing that some others do? That seems (in theory) a fairer way to scale the true value of your review I.e. a small / proportionate commission per click through / purchase in the section under the video? The Stumpster at Stumpy Nubs has this income stream nailed down tight, plus the end of video paid advert.
Very kind mate, thank you. Yeah I do use affiliate links on some items. It's a pittance compared to the £10,000's of sales generated though. This is where I don't think we youtubers get a fair deal. Just doesn't sit right. I wouldn't do a paid ad myself. I'm not on YT for the money so I can be more choosey. Fair play to those who are ok with it and make it work for them though .👍
Can you not set the ‘rate’ you want / deserve, and let Banggood choose to accept your terms? There is a happy balance in there somewhere. Franchising is mid century modern. 😇
@@dwalsh3469 unfortunately not mate. Funny thing is, banggood actually have one of the more generous percentages for affiliate sales. Much more than can be had from eBay, Amazon and through UK companies direct. Either way "I'm out" as they say. I'll still talk about gear I've bought now and again though.
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Good to hear my hunch was right bud! Your review vids are second to none mate! Annoying though, as a maker like you what we really enjoy makes for few views 😔
Cheers Ben mate. Honestly, I was expecting these bits to be a bit rubbish, like most of their bits. Happy to be wrong. They're great. But yeah, that's it - reviews = views. I'm happier now to forsake a few views if that's what means mate. 👍
Hey, you can do build videos, and say ´featuring xxx tool´ and maybe get the best of both worlds?
I like that idea more. Just give something I like a mention as I'm building. I won't be accepting anymore review gear though. 👍
Its a hard one really i would rather watch a review on something thats of interest to the person doing it rather than doing one because they have been sent it for free or have sold all there tools for some kind of lame reason and o the best ever tools have just been given to me for review, its kinda like do you eat the cake you have been given or go and get the one you really wanted. At the end of the day its your channel do what feels right to you
I'll still share my thoughts on kit I use to get a job done for sure. 👍
I much prefer to watch you build shit or give advice on the best tools/methods for the job (it your experience that matters in all cases) rather than review stuff I don't have the time to use or buy anyhow.
Cheers George. Glad to hear it mate as that's what I'll be doing more of.😁
Was just listening to WoodTalk, they were talking about influencers getting free stuff, they seem to feel the way you sounded but also saying you can't spend a router bit for your food shopping, so they were really getting very cheap ads.
That's just it. The value if the exchange is pretty one sided in the long haul. Thing is, if you take money, then you're basically employed to promote it, not give an unbiased review. Affiliate links to products make very little to compensate either. Pittance really. I'm not on YT for the money though. Don't want to feel mugged off for generating £10,000's in sales for a pittance return either though.🤷♂️
Yes a difficult decision to review without prior knowledge but this one was great as it showed real comparison with all the products you used in actual work related processes. otherwise sight unseen you are just another clueless promoter
Appreciated, thank you mate.
Ask for more money or a spiff on sales
That's the thing mate - I've never accepted, or been offered money. Just the tools. As soon as you accept money, you're basically an employee paid to advertise, not a reviewer. I do use affiliate links on some of the products where you can make a tiny commission, but it's a tiny, tiny amount compared to the sales generated. I'll not be accepting anymore review gear I think.
Hey man, first off, do what makes YOU happy, otherwise you sure as hell won't stick to it long term imho.
And secondly, maybe there is a middle ground to this?
Doing mostly videos on projects that you wanna do anyway for yourself, see where it will take you.
And sprinkle in some product review for stuff you actually enjoy once in a while, almost like an "hey guys, just fyi, this tool is a good buy" kind of deal.
But I totally get that you kinda feel "used" as a shill for the companys that send you stuff.
Strange new world...
Greetings from Germany!
Of course mate. I think I prefer the idea of maybe just mentioning something I like in a video of a build like you said. Don't think I'll be accepting any products from manufacturers anymore though. 👍