Massive Ukranian Missile Hiding Secret Next-Gen Tech
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- On February 23, 2024, Ukraine dealt a devastating blow to the Russian military's prestige by downing a massive A-50 AWACS, known as a 'flying radar' aircraft, marking the second such takedown in just months.
This critical attack essentially blinded Russian forces, stripping them of the critical intelligence and situational awareness the A-50 provided. The loss of the airborne command center was a severe hit as its value exceeded 330 million dollars.
Compounding the shock, official reports confirmed that the A-50 was targeted well within Russian borders-a zone presumed safe from Ukraine's anti-aircraft arsenals.
The narrative states that an antiquated Ukrainian Soviet-era S-200 missile system brought down this costly Russian asset, and a striking video capturing the moment of impact seems to corroborate this claim. However, not everyone is buying it.
The destruction of one of the globe's most advanced air surveillance systems over its own territory has sparked intrigue. Experts dissecting the footage suggest the S-200 explanation might be a smokescreen, concealing Ukraine's use of a top-secret American-made weapon capable of swatting these powerful aircraft from the sky with ease, even at incredibly long distances… - Věda a technologie
The US has supplied aim-120s which have active radar homing. It may have been a Frankinsam with the AIM-120 guidance package on an S-200 missile. Honestly far simpler than using a long shot drone.
That's what NASAMS uses. The merge has a great podcast episode talking about it with someone from Raytheon. Nasams can even use AMRAAM-ER
Even more devastating to Russia was not the plane or the high price tag BUT the loss of a highly experienced tech crew aboard-10 or11 crewmen!
Believe me....russia cares more about the tech than the trainer crew....they have the crew immediately replaced....
And high-ranking liaison officers on board...
@@str8ballinSA ohhhhh! Even better!
Good.
Crews are important but Russia is also incapable of replacing these aircraft. Something of a problem.
Yanking out bulky 1960's electronics and adding computers and sensors?
Excellent.
Sounds like a bit of a stretch, a modified S-200 from the frankensam program makes a lot more sense
300km+ into enemy territory? Not 1 missile but at least 2 on video. Highly unlikely. S200 missile is as big as Cessna aircraft.
Exactly. Ukraine has been modifying old Soviet kit to breathe new life into it.
The S-200 is a vacuum tube based system IIRC. It's really old. But if the airframe is sound you could certainly put a lot of modern electronics in the volume and mass of the old guidance package and it has a big and effective warhead. An obvious trick would be using something like an AIM-9X seeker for terminal guidance, but you could also use a AMRAAM guidance kit pulled off a NASAMS AMRAAM.
S200 known to fly up to 500 km with reduced payload. Now replace lamps with cpu and you can stretch it even further
Yeah. I doubt the US would allow the use of secret new tech over Russian territory. What if the missile was a dud somehow? When Taiwan used a new AIM-9 Sidewinder against a Russian/Chinese fighter in the 1950s, a missile hit a Mig-15 without exploding and the plane managed to fly back to base with the unexploded missile sticking out of its arse. That's how the Russians managed to make a heat-seeking missile (initially almost a direct, if slightly inferior, copy) and their current R-73 has an indirect line of succession from that Sidewinder.
They would never risk this kind of technology on this type of war for this ally. It’s too valuable. Simply put this is a capability worth keeping a secret for when there’s a real war to fight.
No better way to test your in development tech, than a war
War is evil!
@@dont4143 "War is evil".
There is no other way to fight a regime that cannot be reasoned with.
Sanctions can help but they're not perfect.
War is the only thing that the Russian government understands.
@@dont4143The war could stop today if Russia would withdraw from the country they invaded.
@@tripillthreatexactly!!
@@gaius_enceladus
No country can reason with the U.S. shadow government that has perpetuated global murder of over 23,000,000 people since the end of WW2
We probably won't know the truth for decades, but I think you would be naive to think there wasn't special equipment and personnel out there right now.
It's the perfect time to field some super-secret stuff, then say, "Oh yeah, it was just a modified something or other...", rather than what it really is.
When Russia started cry about weapons being put on the black market, so we sent "advisors" 😉 over there. 🙈🙉🙊
These Sxxx missiles look like the Bloodhound system back in the day…
Just what my brain called them on first sight.
@@Ubique2927 BL-64; guess which operator ;)
@@bsdooby .. I used to walk past them at RAF Laarbruck regularly.
@@Ubique2927 I grew up three miles from RAF Raynham, those missiles were huge.
@@yawningkitty457 .. they certainly were.
Besides the fact the A150 having buck teeth, we do need a live targeting range for our newer equipment.
Good for Ukraine.
But calling that bird a sophisticated top tech plane is a joke.
Whatever the cause, will make Russia more nervous !
The copium is strong here.
There is a movie that was released of the Russians at a s-300 battery as they launched the missile that shot this plane down. The whole crew got arrested by the GRU, it looked like it was friendly fire.
Or it could be as simple as AWACs don't look up.....
what can i say. us builds the best and only the best.
Just wait till Russia unveil their Firefox airplane......oh yeah. Clint Eastwood stole that didn't he? 🤔
I'm still waiting for the propaganda T-14 Armada? Who stole that?
Ever since AWACS first cane out in the seventies, it's been obvious to me that there should be long-range missiles to take them out, whether SAMs, AAMs, or both. After all, a big, slow aircraft blasting out radio signals has to be the easiest target in existence. I'd be surprised if the Soviets hadn't been working on that capability for the S200 in case their air assets were degraded in combat, and it absolutely makes sense that the Ukrainians would do the same. The main counterargument would be the ludicrously unstealthy design of the missile, but that probably could've been mitigated to some extent.
Good report
too breathless
S-200 is directed from the base unit.
Patriot directs itself to the target. It just has to be launched within range.
However Patriot is a shoot up weapon. This one shot down.
A50 or a50u are not among the most advanced 😂 it’s an antiquated piece sh.. running 286 or pentium on u. Can’t track land targets at all. Barely naval from 100m length. Old shit but they have no better. A100 does not exist in usable form
it was hardware in use that no longer can be in use.
it was good enough for RU to apparently use in a time of war
F-22 in full stealth mode, firing AIM-120ER guided by US ELINT assets.
Some might disagree but I feel your wordplay and delivery is on point without feeling forced or unnecessary.
Unlike a certain British CZcamsr with multiple channels covering sometimes similar topics.
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Give me a name!
How dare you ? My man, Simon is massayah of CZcams, specially on such topics.
I would think that the seeker head of the s-200 would be replaced with a modern multi sensor detector, the drone missle launch idea, really cool.
The stupid plane couldn't even detect missiles coming towards it.
From the flares they were throwing out like crazy, it is pretty obvious the crew knew they were being targeted.
I figure the missile and the plane were from the same ERA.
I find it nice to know the Crew watched there own demise hurdle towards them.
Those people had targeted a lot of civilians.
6:35 , c-130 with b-52 engines. Maybe that should be an idea they actually try. It was so weird seeing that really. Lol
1:29 No it's not. 😂If you mean it is one of the most advanced radar and control aircraft and you are putting it in a list of 100 of such aircraft and the A-50 ranks dead last, then you are right. Which is par for the second best military in Ukraine.
most advanced russian command and control aircraft , well it was
I was thinking, it was an S-200 being guided by a Patriot radar... though if so, why aren't more fighters being knocked out of the sky near the front where they are raining hell down on the Ukes?
If this is some form of 'Longshot' system, that would make sense since there are probably limited numbers of the system in country...
S-200 was designed to engage large targets with limited maneuvering cabability (nuke carrying b-52's)(it self having a limited g-load maneuvering but with grate range)
@@niklasmakalainen866 That makes perfect sense!
This would have been my second guess
No better time for defense contractors to test new tech. If that was the longshot drone then you can bet reps from the defense contarctors involved were in Ukraine overseeing it's use.
Sounds more likely its the frankenmissile or something like that. A program mashing new guidance in old tech, it's been going on pretty much since the conflict started.
Can we talk about the 8 jet engine C130? 6:24
Did AI make that up?
When a B52 and C130 love each other very much...
And the TU-95?
Or possibly F16?
It’s possible to add a computer, turbo, touchscreen, AC, GPS and airbag to a 50s vintage car.
It’s possible to add a micronised, modern computer to a 70s vintage SAM…I suppose
The concept is not really new, as the use of a stealth aircraft to sneak in and attack ahigh value aircraft was used for the F-117. The F-117 had , among others, the mission to attack the adversary's airborne command posts with AIM-9 Missiles.
No no the US doesn't do this, we are merely helping them defend themselves we wouldn't do this. 😉🇺🇸🦅
Not smart telling the soviets it was an American weapon, I don't think.
Who cares they not gonna do shit
There can be a case be made Ruskys shot it down with there own S400 . There was video of Russian S400 firing that night.
Hmmm. It was written in an Indian publication? Yeah, think I'll pass on that sort of top notch opining.
Umm Its not publication.The writer behind that tweet is in team of similar drone development team involved in reccently produced platform named Alpha S which is now currently integrated in mothership plane You can draw your own conclusion now
Fast Forward to: 5:00
nah not a drone, some kinda modified aim120 or 9x
or use a US stealth asset (UCAV or F22 or F35) just out of detection range - have that asset passively detect and watch target - asset sends targetting data via directed comms to a sat and then down to launching asset - launching asset fires its missiles - missiles recieve constant updates via sat relay to home in on target before visual (thermal or mult spectral)
or even a spy sat watching target relaying comms to guide missiles
thats what the US stealth technology is based on - keep passive while they have to, but guide muntions in at range via directed comms - directed comms = almost LOS to sat (hence dump on many UCAVs where cockpit is) - not wide range comms but in a distinct direction, usually in diection of comms sat and allways upwards) - very hard to jam or detect as comms in a specific direction
there are programme to do what the vid suggests but not as mature as the approach defined here - many papers describing above concept
either way, its showing the US getting more involved - which is a good thing for Ukraine
You think a satellite traveling is 17,000 miles an hour can track airplanes, or anything at all really?
@@rogerwilco5918 - yes - and they have already tested such capabilites - the Uk have a concept called SkyNet (a series of sat's) - one of many things it was designed to do was relay data back and forward to external assets (ground to air, ground to ground, air to ground) - such assets could be ground based (soliders, ships, etc) or in-air assets (Typhoon, F35, UCAVs, missiles, etc) - the US can do the same, how else do flying assets talk to sat whilst on mission
the US and UK have both shown BVR guidance from sat's for air-assets
if you think of it, how do NASA talk to Voyager - how do internet based sat's from StarLink work then
most probably friendly fire like it was reported by both sides
@@rogerwilco5918 a great deal, how else do sat help in the real world then?? think about it
@@1976lucho8 thats the nature of war - when its fluid and dynamic, mistakes happen - its just that the Russian's do what ever they want to others no matter what - Ukraine has to rely on its locals and NATO for help on intel
AIM260's
Wrong seeker type…. For an A50 put a AARGM seeker lol it’s not “doctrine” but critical thinking says for a BIG AZZ RADAR use a radar guided missile lol what they gonna shut it off mid air and hope it doesn’t hit them while they’re blind?
Kremlin's lil Gremlin should ban smoking in Orclandistan... and drinking...!... and drugs too!
What about the recently unveiled USV that can carry short-range air-to-air missiles? It's HIGHLY unlikely the US gave advances technology still in development to Ukraine. US has refused to do so. 99% of what we send is a few generations old.(M1A1 for example) Half is borderline obsolete. (Like M113) Very few exceptions to this exist, such as Patriot PAC-3MSE (which is modern) & GLSDB(which isn't really advanced, nothing Russia doesn't have now & is essentially just ground-launched JDAM). The F16s are also old, updated to 2002 standard, still 20 years & multiple gens behind. So, yea, unlikely. Especially since a drone as described is almost by default going to be operating in areas where it could be downed & recovered by Russia.
Yowser.
what's up with this guys tongue?
So what happens when a NATO drone full of classified technology Ukraine probably can’t manufacture or support with command and control links malfunctions and crashes in Russia? For that reason I doubt the claims here.
Unless US forces are operating it in secret.
The SA-5 Gammon (S-200) could easily have had its' seeker, autopilot and proximity fuse electronics updated with western electronics including an active radar-seeker.
How the hell did the Ukrainians knock the bird out of the sky with all sort of defense protection from missiles and jammers too ??
at 3:10 ish you dhow a warthog hmmmmmm not very good are we
Sounds plausible.SLAVA UKRAINI!!!!!!!
Slava Ukraini!
Heroyam Slava!
You're an fool. Turn off the Main Stream Media. 🤦🏻
Pathetic analysis 🙄
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These videos. Always. Build. Up the Russian equipment, detailing how awesome they are. Then they detail how easily they are defeated.
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
So glad we could fund their billion dollar weapon research! 😂
btw you can start calling Ukraine - Russia now, get used to it.
Slava 🇺🇦!
Breath man. I watch the videos am me it always sounds like he is holding his stomach in because he's is trying to hide how fat he is😂😂😂
My personal theory was that Ukraine had people on the ground that shot something like a stinger.
That would not explain why it dived as it saw the missile coming from way off.
its so fawking incomprehensible for Americans to imagine that Ukraine is just good at what they doing they have to come up with "no it has to be one of our secret projects, this can't be, tis unfair!"
Ukraine is not doing anything except losing a generation for America's crooked politicians
this hole thing is made up with no actual real footage of anything real.
Why did the US and the UK not send in troops to preemptively support Ukraine, like they asked? They both sent troops to Kuwait, despite not having a defense treaty with Kuwait. They signed a legally-binding treaty with Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan to defend them against *any* threat or attack. This is such a failure on the part of the US and the entire West for not supporting Ukraine more when it mattered.
It's all in our constitution as to how to do as you think we should of joined in the fight from day one it is impossible
@@enikeist Where in the Constitution? Specifically what part of the US constitution required the US to respond like a weak feckless loser?
@@firefox39693
😂😂😂 the US had been using Ukraine military stooges to shell Russian speaking Ukranians in Donbas since the US backed coup in 2014. This was to taunt Russia into responding. Now fools think Russia "invaded" unprovoked. People actually believe Putin wants to "March through Europe"? These people are so clueless.
@@soakupthesunman It did invade Ukraine unprovoked. Completely.
@@firefox39693
So you think there was no shelling of civilians, no Russian-speaking people in Ukraine, and no warning from Putin?
Thanks for being a propaganda megaphone for the legacy media.
Blocked and unsubscribed!
Massive U.S taxpayer payload donated to keep the military industrial complex content.
These people don't understand that. They believe their TV and everything it says.
Idiot. Let Ukraine use them in Ukraine. Better than the US using them in the US. Typical short sighted appeaser.
cope harder, bub
Also the kickbacks keep the politicians happy as well
@@mrlovely2008 .. Your conspiracy theory creator is working overtime.
I thought this channel was credible but this is pure none sense. Definitely lost my admiration for this channel and will probably skip future videos.
Speculative.
I don't buy this, I think it's more likely it was s200 plus we all know how shit the Russian military is.
😂😂😂 don't bet your country on it, skippy
Anyone saying anything bad about the USA supporting Ukraine are idiots. We are going to be paying taxes regardless I’d much rather give my tax to help Ukraine fight for freedom rather than my tax dollars go to DEI and other government programs like that. This is NOT a right vs left issue this is right vs wrong! I’d much rather send Ukrainians the equipment they need then eventually have to send soldiers once Russia comes for other countries which will happen if not stopped in Ukraine
😂😂😂 you poor sap, Ukraine is NATO's stooge. Putin does not plan to "walk through Europe". Get out of here with that adolescent drivel.
Ukraine lost
Can we stop giving these people money
weapons, we're giving them weapons, not a giant novelty check.
we’re giving them more than just weapons…..only a fool could believe otherwise.
😂😂😂
You have nothing to do with it. Go back to admiring your bare-chested Putin poster now.
Do you think we’re just shipping out bags of cash? Learn a little bit about how it works and you’ll learn that the vast majority of the value of these aid packages goes toward American jobs within the United States. Russia is literally stealing Ukrainian children and you’re worried about a few bucks? Not a good look, friend.
fake news
Cope harder.
Your channel is beloved by many. Please stop playing propaganda videos.
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