Behind Ukraine’s Weapons: Storm Shadow, ATACMS, StarStreak Missiles and More | WSJ Equipped
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- Russia invaded Ukraine nearly two years ago. Since then, countries like the U.S. and U.K. have sent Kyiv weapons like ATACMS missiles and cluster bombs to help its military counter Moscow.
WSJ breaks down Ukraine’s armory to see its potential impact for the ongoing war.
Chapters:
0:00 Breaking down Ukraine's armory
0:18 Storm Shadow missiles
8:18 ATACMS missiles
15:43 StarStreak missiles
20:32 BM-21 Grad rocket launcher
25:30 Cluster bombs
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Storm Shadows max range is actually 320-340 miles. The UK and France just limit the range for the export versions.
good job uk sent stock from their own supply so it has full range
Which is why two warships in the far east of Crimea have been destroyed by Storm Shadow. Not to mention a submarine and a ship in the Dry Dock in Sevastapol and the HQ of the Black Sea fleet.
@cjjk9142
There's no evidence that the SS sent to Ukraine as range-limited export variants, it's just a flawed assumption that the media have made. There might be an agreement to not use them against Russia directly, but the full range would help them bypass Russian air defences in occupied Ukrainian territory and thus be fair game.
@@jamesthomas4841 I wouldnt call them warships as they were a landing ship and a small landing boat... both super outdated so yeah... gj for clearing low value targets with billion dollar weapons :)
The only "high value" target Ukraine managed to clear was the Moskva in the early stages... and that was really pure luck lol plus also a really outdate warship (but a "real" one at least)
@MrArkaneMage
Desperate pro Russian nonsense. The landing ships are arguably of greater strategic value than other units of the Black Sea fleet. However you are ignoring the destruction of one attack submarine and a missile carrying corvette both courtesy of Storm Shadow/Scalp.
This is more of a historical document than an up-to-date summary of the situation now.
I like how he described the firecracker in your hand strait from the movie Armageddon
Have to say for a tiny country, the Brits do a great job - this and the NLAW are awesome!
In today's world whether or not a country is tiny or huge in larger proportion than ever before depends on the scale of its economic power rather than on the population or territory
@@Pootie_Tang interesting comment..... so how does Russia compare to the UK?
@@ruzziasht349the Russians do have the equivalent of the Storm shadow and even better ones, and in more numbers, so I don't see the excitement about these weapons.
If such weapons would determine the battle, then Russia would have won it long ago.
@@truthfiction8408 russia really doesnt have this kind of kit. its biggest problem isnt development its the rampant corruption tech vehicles and fuel all stolen
@@truthfiction8408 HIMARS is nothing special but still did a pretty good job. An upgrade on this and who knows.
ATACMS are great but the Army has a limited number to transfer to Ukraine. The US should provide JASSM, the equivalent to Storm Shadow,. There are thousands of these in the inventory.
@@cjjk9142good point. The UK is an island too so they don’t have any immediate threats
That is actually not true. The US has approximately thousand ATACMS lift in stock and they are old so the US is not going to use them. Actually they are going to dispose of them. So it is a strange thing that they don’t give them to Ukraine because the cost of disposing them is bigger than sending them to Ukraine, so that must be another answer to why the US is not doing it.
This is information according to military inside who is giving this information. The development of a new ATACMS is going on as we are speaking and has been going on for sometime, so there’s no reason for not sending them to Ukraine other than politics and other things we are not informed about.
Sadly the JASSM might be the single least likely conventional weapon to go to Ukraine. They're just too prized by the United States.
@@narutobroken nightmare for British if cheap North Korean water drones will start to control British water😂
All those systems have been destroyed in Ukraine. EU has been sending more Patriots systems to replace them
The US and Germany need to decide if they really want to defeat Russia via Ukraine or not. A few hundred long range missels that they can easily supply could take out the Kerch Bridge would bring a good return for a small investment. Seems like a no brainer compared to sending jets.
It’s a proxy war. Just a money making operation. Anduril is creating AI drone swarms for the U.S. military as the media uses China/ Russia as a funding tool. These defense companies are getting good $$
Easy boy, the goal is not cross the finish line but keep running, while running the money is flooding once you cross the finish line it stops flooding.
I agree, but they are also weighing the risks of that. If Germany decides to send a Taurus missile and it gets intercepted, well now the Russians might be able to counter it much more effectively in the future.
Long Island is a smelly hellhole.
Wait a minute, I've learned from democratic media that this is NOT a NATO-Russia war on Ukrainian territory and that is all Russian propaganda.
ATACMS are easy to notice when launched because they shoot at a higher angle and have an extremely large back blast! The smaller GMLRS munitions can shoot at much lower angles. The ATACMS “pods” also resemble the front of all the other munitions as in it looks like a 6 rounder but splits apart at launch with only one missile inside vs 6 rockets.
The sneaky little devils!
Thanks state department.
ATACMS is launched from the same platform as HIMARs. But being that ATACMS is such a bigger missile the HIMARs launcher can only hold two ATACMS pods where as with HIMARS missiles it can hold six.
5:50 Beautiful patch
I could be wrong here but from what i've noticed the west is only providing UA with enough weaponry for it not to loose instead of actually giving them the tools it wants/needs to win this war. It took the west months to provide them with modern tanks and apc's and because it took so long it gave the russians more then ample time to dig in and fortify their positions hence the failed long awaited summer offensive.
Well, the public is already hesitant about sending more, and giving them one big very expensive package is not a very good decision. That's probably why they do it over time.
You are forgetting the training and logistics that go into supporting this equipment. You can't just give someone a new weapon system without training them how to operate and repair it. You also have to give them parts to repair it with and make sure they have the logistics to properly disseminate the parts/systems. All of these things take time.
Giving Ukraine weapons without training and a way to repair the equipment would literally do more harm than good.
Its likely that the WEST is just ok for this war to las a decade or so. Imagine if in 2033 Ru and UA are still fighting for Donezk and Kherson.
@@bf5175 When we begin to consider all the work that went into establishing Bandera Summer Camps in Western Ukraine, since 1950. After the US trained the Azov guys the appearance of any actual desire of the remaining Citizens of Western Ukraine to die so Wall Street can produce profits by appropriating more weapons to threaten Russian seems to have diminished as fast as the support for Vietnam Domination after the TET Offensive.
In 1967 the understanding that US Treasury funds could not afford a War on Poverty, the US began to withdraw support for that conflict, due to a lack of funds.
Today as a group of Government Agencies shuffle cash between their departments and buy Treasury Notes and Bonds to insure some image of positive support for the Federal Reserve Note, the appearance of any real ability to provide the funds to hire the Workers to assemble the Weapons, looks pretty difficult to provide?
You do need some form of Fiat Dollar that is supported by some actual form of Value, or you will have a Currency that resembles Deutschmarks in Germany between Wars.
All the G-7 Guys appear to be suffering from BRICS hiding their former Colonial Empires from the exploitation that was so simple before 2014.
So the Murdoch Rag that at one time did provide some form of information before the Internet began to become the source, will give you reassuring information.
I was able to find the Wall Street Journal all over the USA during the 1980's as my travels caused me to seek information to decide where the flow of weapons was headed next in those troubled times.
After Rupert bought them out, they were still a conservative media source, but we do need to understand that Rupert gets some income from promoting conflicts that sell weapons.
The Media Giant did not get to the current position by simply providing facts.
oh thats definitely what weve been doing. Im not sure if they are scared of upsetting russia or scared of having russia lose or if there are some other sort of motives but weve most definitely been drip feeding aid to ukraine instead of supplying them outright with everything they need and more. With that being said, it makes it seem like the goal is to have ukraine weaken russia without giving ukraine enough to win. Idk but thats what it seems like anyway when we could have flooded ukraine with so much more aid but we have not for some strange reason
5:49 Did anyone notice the patch?
Great detailed video...EXPERT
excellent report!
Ukraine received Storm Shadow missiles in March, 2023 - more than a year after a "three day" ru///ian invasion, and uses these very effectively against the second army in Ukraine. Thank you for support! Better late than never.
It's amazing to think of how many Russians have become sunflower seed since this all started. Maybe they should turn against Putin instead.
Yes your right they use them sparingly and very effectively,a small country with modern weaponry can do very well against a super power
US does not care about Ukrainians (maybe Ukrainian mail order brides). US is simply using its money to fight Russia, with Ukrainian blood being shed. It is impossible for US to defeat Russia. Germans, far far superior than US, couldn't defeat Russia. 1 MILLION Germans surrendered to Russia. Same fate awaits US (and Ukrainian mercenaries).
Uhm yeah and it STILL didn´t push the Russians back. CZcams has become a western propaganda platform, i wonder how many comments here are due to Ai ?
3 day war is western propaganda the Kremlin never said that also they dont recognise Ukraine conflict as war meaning those 3 days are lies
Definitely Ben Wallace should be the next Secretary General of NATO!
He won't do bro he doesn't even want to be 🇬🇧 MP
Ben is happy as he is many respects from 🇬🇧
Well made video. ;)
Every little thing is not a game changer, they need weapons, no super pricey weapons, but ALOT of weapons. Its like bringing a box of paperclips into a newspaper printing factory... Yeah the clip is amazing it keeps papers in order but one box is useless.
For the problem too is you've got a country that's not built for war that has every other country in NATO supplying their equipment and that's who they're relying on so when you have a country like Ukraine going to the US and pretty much saying you need to give us this and you need to give us that as a US taxpayer it really puts a bad taste in your mouth. It's going to come to a point when The US and the rest of NATO is going to get tired of funding this war and they're just going to pull out all together. Watching videos online You just see soldiers blindly shelling from howitzers not realizing that those shells aren't from an endless stock.
Modern warfare is terrifying.
dude old warfare was even more brutal.
@@boredape1257 Actually no. Modern warfare is more terrifying. Drones hovering over your head at all times and knowing your position. It can feel hopeless. Old warfare, you have the fog of war, your biggest defense.
@@TemplarX2 he said old warfare was more BRUTAL which is most certainly was, the living conditions and fighting conditions as well as what happens after the battle were barabaric to say the least, sure modern warfare is deadlier but it still was a lot more personal when 80 thousand men are slaughtered by hand on the ancient battlefields
@@gefagnis Modern warfare is more brutal. Have you heard of white phosphorus, claymore mines etc? Getting personal is a more human (maybe not humane) way to fight. The living conditions in the past were not that bad if you were living off your enemy land and loots. In fact, it could be actually exhilarating.
@@TemplarX2 there are counter measures to drones being developed for a squad on the battlefield. It's not all hopeless, Ukraine has already patent a gun that uses signals to destroy drones
I throughly enjoyed this informative piece. You covered alot of didn't types of munitions! Thank you
This was a solid story.
Great video
Grad can be a psychological weapon. Falling random is worse than running away from a known potential target.
very good point !
These weapons blow us ships for Christmas. While Ukraine barely has a navy. Russian fleet is barely present in Crimea anymore. Unbelievable enguinity by the Urkranians.
Yeah, if the Ukrainians were the ones making the Storm Shadow or gather the intel to acquire targets and trajectories for it, or even making the necessary Su-24 modifications to fire the missile, then I would agree that they are very "enguinous".
What happened to Ukraine naval ?
@@prizefighter8699Russia stole most of it in 2014 when they invaded crimea.
@@prizefighter8699 What bob guy said, and Ukraine intentionally sinking their ship in port to prevent capture when 2022 invasion started.
Ukraine should have implemented the Minsk agreements and declared neutrality.
5:49 ahhh yes a man of culture I see
4:05 He quotes Jason Isaacs aka Ronald Quincy from the movie Armageddon about the firecracker blowing up the meteor in the planning room lol
Great piece, but what's with the product placement? 5:48
I have no clue what the graph at 22:25 represents. 32.8 feet from what, the impact? isn't 50 feet the lethal radius?
More than 50feet try further
Even 300ft is very close to launcher. It makes no sense
You don't win wars by being hesitant or timid.
What weapons can be used against these storm shadow and atacms?
Here in US, media and people have turned attention from Ukraine, towards the Middle East, and our own weather....
We cannot forget Ukraine!
I'm glad to see 1.6M views in 1 month. Some of us are still paying attention.
4:08 He's using the lines from the film, Armageddon!
(I think I made this same comment in a earlier video)
Atacams weren’t sent because we didn’t have a replacement at the start of the war, now we do the Prism system i think . With 2024 atacams can be sent on a 1 to 1 basis so when a prisim is made they can send a atacams . We only send Ukraine weapons the money gets spent here in production of new weapons we use replace the old stock we send Ukraine. A replacement is GLSDB but that has been delayed and is alot cheaper than atacams . Like 4 times cheaper do for 1 atacams u get 4 GLSDB . Helping Ukrainian people helps us .
You have replacement - there is a production line for ATACMS in the US. Moreover, you've found some ATACMS to send to Morocco. I don't see any war going on in Morocco, or even upcoming there.
@@chaoticneutral6729 atacams didn’t have a replacement at the start of this war . The Prisim missile system got fast tracked to 2024 because Ukraine want the long range atacams but because China are our next threat we needed to have the atacams incase China started anything so while this war was ongoing the prisim system was started now that is in place and production is next year USA would send a one for one when a prisim gets made a atacams can get released as we only send old stock to Ukraine and we make new stuff for ourselves. This has been said before not only by me .
@@chaoticneutral6729 they have contracts they need to stand bye . Or you get fines . . We should be sending them in my opinion but I’m only saying why we didn’t . Jake Broe has a CZcams channel he’s former military and funker530 American combat veteran and many others have mentioned why I’m not saying anything new
Zig, who do you expect to be at war at, and what munitions could be needed.
You can send what you like, but it only justifies reprisal and the line going that much further to ensure Russian security concerns. As Mearsheimer said, you are leading them to destruction.
I absolutely love the use of small drones. They're like little buzzing mosquitoes swat at them all you want, but that never eliminates them.
Fantastic thanks again.
the USA already sent ATACMs with cluster munition warheads, very good at hitting Russian trenches, moving supply convoys, and also Russian artillery parks. this was why the Russian offensive in the east was a flop and very flow since the Russian logistics there got hit hard. Also in the south the Russians experienced artillery and ammo shortage due to ATACM clusters being used vs. Russian artillery parks. it was so bad a Russian general complained of artillery shortage in the south.
Pro Ukraine propaganda Russia is advancing and will keep advancing
They only sent a dozen ATACMs, which was used on the Berdyansk Airfield against helicopters.
@@quinnard9750 kherson and kharkiv disagree
@@quinnard9750They're advancing to their deaths while the rich Russian elites enjoy their christmas in their warm homes. 2 years, 300,000 casualties and only 17% of Ukraine's territory to show for it. What was the point? Even though Nato is supporting Ukraine, if Russia is struggling this hard in a proxy war against the west while being supported by China, how do they expect to win a full blown war against Nato?
@@TorbisINACTIVE I'm shocked they told you how many they sent.
When someone says that something is forbidden in war thats already a weakness.
The ability to discuss the funds available to support any further conflicts,
is forbidden as well.
As the G-7 sinks into economic despair,
their former Colonies appear to trade behind a BRICS Wall....
No it's not, underestimating someone in a war is weakness.
If someone tells you something is forbidden and you believe them than you're an idiot.
@@davin1287 Who decides what is forbidden in an Economic War?
@@danielhutchinson6604 Very true! Just look at the Chinese hegemony, Russia 🇷🇺 sold out its sovereignty signing the BRICS agreement.
The clowns in the state Duma have sold their industries and land to Chinese entities. They even made the Russian duma illegally confiscate EU companies and factories inside Russia 🇷🇺 that then got transferred to China.
I tend to agree, with some qualifications.
A more effective offensive surface to surface projectile (mobile) for UKR would be one that describes a parabolic trajectory and reaches an altitude of about 100-150 kilometres, ie an upgraded and smaller V2 with precision target acquisition, ie GPS. The rapid descent from such altitude would be far greater to detect and take down till it's too late. Ground or airborne launched projectiles are easier to detect or ecm-jam and take down and would use as stated INS, GPS and terrain following radar. Think outside the box to hit the bullseye.
the closer to the earth it is the better. anything that high in the sky is extremely detectable. Russias high end air missiles are extremely capable. Dont under estimate them. the reason SS has been so effective thus far is becuase its beyond detectable until it does its nose dive before impact.
Not when they descend at hypersonic (Mach 5) as in the case of the V2. Closer to the surface is easy to detect from AWACS and easy to deceive as we did in the Falklands War with Exocets. Active array radar with electronic phase shifters (multiple receive anntenna steerable beams) vis a vis F15E AESA is also effective at detecting low flying cruise missiles which are not normally faster than 500mph. Your argument is too subjective. @@ashleygoggs5679
Don’t think we need to break out the old V2 blueprints just yet…🙂
1:04 Actually, the range have been greatly improved since then, because Ukraine just performed a very successful strike in south Crimea, turning an entire weapon carrier into a smoking wreck and causing serious damages all around its dock.
A landing/cargo ship....the same one they hit earlier this year and had just finished repairs
😄😄 CNN brainwashed you
If the Russians ever learn the truth about this disastrous war, Putin is toast.
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 Russians are used to Western Capitalists attacking them.
They saw this conflict coming 20 years ago.
The US has been spending money they do not have to present a unified NATO Attack on Russians.
What happens to the last three Administrations when the evidence that the Pentagon has funneled cash to discreeth bank accounts, instead of producing weapons?
Where did a few trillion Taxpayer Dollars go?
Explain that better than Putin explaining how he is outwitting the Capitalists with their own Greed.
Putin may be the most visionary leader since Alexander of Greece took over Babylon.
Right?
You read too much propaganda.
As a courtesy for the rest of the world could you please use in your descriptions also the metric system (at least visually) ? Although your videos are well documented I don't feel like going back in time and convert all the miles and the inches to kilometers and millimeters. Thanks!
It's not complicated. 1 Mile = 1.6 Kilometre
Liberia, Myanmar and USA. Only countries not using metric.
Interesting at 549 in the video no one at the WSJ noticed the photoshopped Porn Hub label on the soilder's chest. Great editing!
I peeped there was a man of culture among us.
The brimstone 2 is one of the best I’ve ever seen incredible blast
5:50 nice batch xD
The ATACMS isn't the equivalent of a Storm Shadow/SCALP. The equivalent would be the Tomahawk. Except the Tomahawk has a MUCH longer range.
Not really, Tomahawk is closer to something like Kalibr. It’s a large, long-range heavy duty cruise missile that’s launched from surface ships and submarines. It’s far too large for air-launch. ATACMs isn’t an exact analogy either, I’ll grant, but it’s closer.
@@grahamstrouse1165 Tomahawk is only 4ft longer than Storm Shadow. Size isn't that much difference. ATACMS also is only a boost-glide. It's nothing like a cruise missile. Not even close.
@@nick4819That’s not insignificant, though. Storm Shadow is pushing the weight limits for most strike aircraft as is. That said, the mass difference between Storm Shadow & Tomahawk isn’t as great as I thought it was (without the Tomhawak’s booster.) I do kinda see your point now.
One substantial difference is that Storm Shadow is high-subsonic & most versions of Tomahawk cruise along at roughly the same speed as an airliner. Also the fact that we don’t have any ground or ship-based version of Storm Shadow & every version of Tomahawk I’m aware of is surface launched. I suppose you could sling a few under a B-52.
BTW: My understanding is that the USN is reviving the TASM. I just don’t know whether it’s really suited for that kind of job anymore is the thing. Is it going to be getting some kind of high-speed terminal boost phase, countermeasures or something like that? Interceptors are SO much more precise than they were when TASM was taken out of service.
I apologize for being rude, btw.
The Brits are now sending "Martlet" which is a little slower than Startreak but uses the same targeting system - It has a single proximity fragmentary warhead better suited to kill drones and Helicopters - about equal to being hit by a 40mm shell - perhaps more importantly it is still in production
I've worked firing tow missiles for over 20 years. I cannot imagine what it's like to try to keep a laser spot on a moving and maneuvering airplane. That I got to see to believe.
@@mrgrinch837 Here's the thing....you don't keep a laser spot on the target....the video is wrong. Starstreak and LMM (not Martlet, thats the name of the Royal Navy Wildcat and LMM combination) are laser beam riding. The operator just keeps the target in the sight, the system does the rest. It projects a 'grid' of laser light into the air. The missiles laser seekers actually point backwards to the launcher (so you can't jam them) by referencing this grid they know where they are and move accordingly to intercept. This also means the target will not detect it has been targeted as no laser light is 'painted' on it.
@@mrgrinch837 yeah that launcher weighs like 70 lbs. would be quite difficult to hit something with 70 lbs on your shoulder... imagine trying to aim a 70 lb rifle
how's your economy going "mate"?! lol.
Superb video top audio naration😮👍
i like the firecracker anology especially two days before new years day
The supplied Storm Shadow is software locked to 155 miles. The missile is capable of reaching nearly 350 miles.
That's smart.
The export version is restricted, but Ukraine got UK stocks
The export version is restricted, but Ukraine got UK stock
@@suburbia2050 and it's artificially restricted to 155 miles
no the uk has not limited them. this has been debunked
Thank you for this, I value the work you do
5:50 Look at bros vest patch 💀
I know
@@AndroidTablet-ck6pz Why comment
D@mn good explanation !
The most factually accurate documentary so far, thank you for admitting Great Britain 🇬🇧 led the way
We are with you Ukraine 🇬🇧 Slava Ukraini
Britain is the center of world civilization, thank you, the great British
Thank you for your support, we really appreciate it.
@@Eugenetra7 🇬🇧👍🇺🇦
@@animationx2894not really. Since WW2 Britain has been a vassal of the US and now can't even maintain it's own culture in the face of an onslaught of immigration. London will be a Muslim stronghold within a decade
@@animationx2894 Every problem in the world right now can be traced to the British
Remember last year when Putin threatened to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine were to receive long-range missiles? Pepperidge farm remembers.
No, nobody remembers this because it never happened.
I cant find the nuclear threat from Putin anywhere
"Pepperidge farm remembers". Man, that was so cold I had to crank up the heat.
@@ssaini5028 Russia's position has always been go nuclear if its existence felt threatened. In other words, this war has only two outcomes: Russian wins, or EVERYONE dies. That everyone literally means every single living being, anywhere on the planet, friend or foe
@@ThisNoName Putin only explained the same Nuclear doctrine the west has adopted. Just like the west, if Russias very existence was at stake they would retaliate with its nuclear arsenal (just like the west). Russia has recently changed their defense only nuclear protocols to first strike. Same as the US, again show me where Russia has threaten anyone with Nuclear weapons?
For starters, what offensive? is that located in la, la, la Land? Storm shadows are not changing anything or haven't you watched the news lately?
What are the speed off these missiles??
I understood the U.S. used anti-personnel cluster munitions extensively in the European theater during World War II.
We didn’t really have anything resembling cluster munitions during WWII. We’d only just developed proximity fusing for our heavy AA guns during WWII and that was VERY hush-hush. Cluster munitions are far more complex.
I remember reading that the Allies dropped a fragmentation munition that exploded roughly five feet from the ground on advancing German troops, resulting in the total breakdown of the attack. Maybe I overstated the point, though.@@grahamstrouse1165
We should send 10 times more of that stuff.
Yeah and you should pay more taxes to that 😅😅😅😅 pretty sure it's not good for your pocket but atleast it would be worth it, btw that thing was expensive the us should fund Ukraine like how the funded their own armed forces.
You need to worry about your own safety. Do you really think Russia will forget all the mistakes of England? Boris Johnson is a born Russophobe, calling for the destruction of Russia. I wonder what Grandpa's grudge against Russia is. He doesn't realize that Britain is just an island.
22:11
Sentence structure about grad hit flawed.
Noticed a similar anomaly earlier as well.
AI preparing these. Has holes.
Good report, thank you.
Salute to UK for this invincible weapon.
well, it was vencible after all
Far from invincible. Russia's been shooting down storm shadows. They're just more expensive waste of taxpayer money to support a corrupt Ukrainian regime.
So many Wunderwaffen that cost millions while cheap drones rule the battlefield
You have no idea what that word means😂
Cheap drones work well at attacking isolated infantry and observation. But bigger targets like command centersnand ships require bigger and more expensive missiles.
@@maxg4304 don't project your insecurities onto others pal
Cheap drone to attack civilian infrastructure like powerplant, seems legit
@@cybronichuman Russia 🇷🇺 would have lost the war in 3 days without the West. Wonder where all their weapons come from? Of course the west! Investigative journalists uncovered that over 30 components for their UAV came from the West, the rest was from China. It shows the lack of sophistication when Russia needs to use off-the-shelf components as they are not able to produce them themselves.
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
Good grief. The cost and availability of an ATACMS is and has been a non-factor in this war.
Long range standoff munitions are pretty incredible in that they can hit targets autonomously once launched, very far away and without posing any risk to the pilot who launched it.
I’ve actually launched some of these in military aviation simulators, and what I remember from them is that they can be programmed with specific GPS coordinates. And that the jet engine is merely to build inertia, after which the missile can glide for dozens of miles before hitting its target.
That’s pretty impressive when you compare them to other smart munitions, like JDAMs, AGMs and SDBs - which, while guided by optics, laser, GPS and sometimes combined guidance, must be flown and launched within fairly close proximity to their desired targets. (10-20 nautical miles or so).
long range standoff munitions use GPS and other satellite infrastructure, keep it up, and say good bye to all the satellites, GPS and others, and in general all the access to Space, which is far bigger loss than a few pilots and planes.
@@Nauda999 GPS satellites can't be easily destroyed as they orbit 12,000 miles above the Earth also attacking and destroying them would be an act of war, Russia isn't isn't that stupid.
Well, modern stand-off weapons (and by modern I mean decades to be honest) have IR seekers that image the target and check against what it should be hitting, that's how you get those last few meters of accuracy. It's also why you don't need GPS per se because something like a Storm Shadow will bunt and gain altitude to take a good look at the area and find the target, even if it's hundreds of meters off it should find it.
@@streaky81 "Storm Shadow will bunt and gain altitude to take a good look at the area and find the target, even if it's hundreds of meters off it should find it."
yes and use satellite communications to transmit what it is seeing so operation can confirm that it is the intended target.
Would be really funny if Storm Shadow or water drone hit a civilian ship or even better Turkish navy ship mistaken it for Russian ship.
Storm shadows have hit mostly the ships in dry dock where USA gives précise coordinates and GPS is enough to get to that location unlike a moving ship in the sea.
@@streaky81 The Storm Shadow does have a terminal IIR seeker where as it approaches its' target it pulls up and then dives whereupon it jettisons its' nosecone to expose the terminal seeker.
Accuracy is the biggest difference between western weapons and Russian weapons. That accuracy lessens the danger of collateral damage.
What do they have to show for it?
If you want to see what a hand looks like after a firecracker look up a football player who played for the New York Giants and Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jason Pierre-Paul. It was a horrible accident. Especially with a really nice man who is talented in American NFL.
I remember that! That was so awful…
An important thing to know about Storm Shadow is that they're surplus kit - aside from the fact they're all going EOL very soon to be replaced by SPEAR 5 as a direct replacement, the UK is moving to TLAM block 5, at some point the UK is going to have to destroy them which is an expensive process; by handing as many as feasibly possible to Ukraine without completely diminishing capability of last resort (which is covered by Trident anyway) they're all up for grabs over the next four years. People seem to miss this important fact - they're not going to be replaced in the stockpiles, and they're bought and paid for, so they are effectively zero cost to give to Ukraine outside a C-17 airlift to Poland or whatever they're doing; which is almost certainly cheaper and safer than destroying them otherwise.
You're saying that disposing of them by helping poison Ukraine is a good thing? That's a reason to send them?
It’s just great to learn that Ukraine is winning ! Let’s keep sending the money and keep this proxy death trap going . At least till the 2024 election! Then .. who cares …
Storm Shadow missiles are already in Russian weapon laboratories
@@efghggdxlmfn33a) that's not how that works b) even if it was Russia couldn't handle them, it'd be more like China c) so what, they're ancient tech.
@@jamesgornall5731In even if I didn't reject your assessment entirely, you're going to have to explain in what way Storm Shadow is poisoning Ukraine.
Wow! Gonazisgo!!
The JASSM is the equivalent to the storm shadow not the Atacms
The cluster munitions issue is just the US tryna get rid of dead weight inventory because of the controversy around their use
No
More like palming off old duds to Ukraine, and asking US taxpayers to pay full price for replacement from a greedy MIC. The US is shameless, controversy is a mere political tool, both foreign and domestic use.
This video really is truly exceptional work! I'm sick and tired of the countless 5-10 min brief summary videos posted on CZcams that do not dive deep into the granular details of the Ukraine war... Although this video leaves something to be desired, it would be better if a video like this was released every week or a couple times per week....
Ukraine is a massive country and, there are many details that could be covered. in fact, you could slice up the front line into 100 small segments and dedicate a 30-minute video to each of them with a thorough explanation of the terrain, soil content, strategic and tactical junction points. As well as every single village occupied by RU🇷🇺🐖...
In my opinion this is just a video that scratches the surface of this conflict it’s not really a deep dive if you want to hear deepdives I recommend perun
There are plenty of channels on YT that have this kind of content. Hint: the good ones don't refer to the Russians as "pigs".
The unfortunately thing about well done videos like this is that by the time they're uploaded, they're sever weeks to sever months outdated, as this one showed.
Sometimes they include a post-video production note; other times they don't, so if you're staying abreast on the situation in Ukraine on a daily basis, you immediately know this was done weeks to months before ATACMS were provided to Ukraine.
And ATACMS were provided to Ukraine before October; some of the known, actual use of ATACMS started around mid October-ish.
@@kiabtoomlauj6249 yeah thought the same but I guess there’s nobody here that wants to discuss Russian tank production numbers for an hour
They did initially publish this over many months, as a series of shorter videos. That's why they talk about Ukraine wanting ATACMS (which Ukraine actually deployed over 2 months ago in October), and why they identify Ben Wallace as UK Secretary of State for Defence (a position he resigned from on August 31, almost 4 months ago).
Could cluster munition be used to clear land mines ?
No.
Not reliably or cost effectively and those munitions would be better used else where
Also could never rely that it would even hit most or all the mines in that field
Also could scatter its own duds around and make it more dangerous
good video
The US tends to feed itself before giving to other, and once the ATACAMS replacement is delivered, the US will probably donate more of the older ATACAMS
The US sold more ATACMS to other countries than it purchased for itself. The vast majority of the US stockpile is in South Korea for good reason. Despite what many (mistakenly) believe, there are not thousands just laying around waiting to be sent. Certainly the delivery of the replacement system will free up some, but don't count on a sudden deluge.
The thing is the army doesn’t really NEED them. These are weapons which were designed to fight a land war in Europe. They wouldn’t be of much use in a conflict with China. The only other theater we might get in a major scrum in is the ME & ATACMS simply aren’t as valuable for that kind of fighting.
Unless we’re planning on starting a land war with Canada I just don’t see the need to keep hoarding the things. Granted, Canada IS stupidly rich in natural resources & they have some of the world’s largest unspoiled fresh water reserves. Canada will also likely be one of the main beneficiaries of global warming in the next couple decades. Rising temperatures open up huge swathes of previously marginal land for human habitation & farming. And sea ice melt will likely make the Northwest passage not only vital but very lucrative.
Okay, I changed my mind. Let’s save some ATACMs for Canada.
Does Justin Bieber qualify as a causus belli just by existing and making terrible music or does he have to do something first?
5:48 The video editor knew what he was doing 😉
This ended well. How were the missile strikes overnight?
02:22 "THIS -- is a storm shadow missile, and today I'll be talking about its quirks and features." 😆😅
they use it in the following manner: nato provides the equipment, nato provides the operators, nato provides the surveillance intelligence, nato provides the salaries for any remaining ukrainian soldier, nato takes the ultimate decision of what and where to hit, nato delivers the payload when the moment is right. so really, ukraine is not even in the picture anymore.
Now I have so much info about missiles, wow. Thanks CZcams.
The WJS seriously needs an interview with the UKR Operator Starsky :)
Atacms were send months ago. Good reporting
I know right
Ukraine as test operator😂 Russia as test targets..
The Middle East is where Russia will test weaponry on US outposts, it goes both ways.
@5:49 excuse me sir, we said Storm Shadow, not Stormy Daniels
Oops...this is up to date and brilliant.
Got the firecracker analogy wrong btw. ‘Close the firecracker around your fist ‘ ? Back to front. 😬
It is an old material re-published. There are talks about Ukrainian counter-offensive, which happened on July - September. Thank you for support! Much more needed!
Hey Ivan, did you get your rubbles ?
@@CarpeDiem13xit’s the truth tho. This is either entirely an older video that’s been re-uploaded, or at least parts of it have been recycled.
Yes, Ukraine has already received all these systems
Russia already won. Fak off
Ukraine offensive is in reverse !
Over 500 years of Russian colonialism stopped in Ukraine using just a few weapons that Western nations pulled out of the garage.
"Just a few weapons" don't push the envelope my guy some of these countries are almost out of ammo with the BILLIONS worth of weapons they've already sent you😭
According to CNN, I bet you still believe Iraq has WMDs
@@j4genius961 Don't spread bogus. First, even Poland just bought 10x more high tech weaponry in 1 month than was ever delivered to Ukraine in 2 years lol. Second, ammo isn't stockpiled anymore, it's produced based on demand. ammo is reloaded into a weapon, restocked on site, delivered to site, produced as needed. Ukraine can't produce munitions on mass scale since factories are within strike Russian missile range. Second, what was sent to Ukraine is the old scraps that the militaries are scheduled to be replacing anyways, and now the majority of countries are boosting their militaries.
Yep that’s why marinka fell yesterday
@@proxyicarcus So we should see highly advanced new weapons flooding into Ukraine very soon right? Because I've been hearing the old scraps theory since the beginning of this "special military operation".You would think western countries would've ramped up the production by now...Unless they can't
Is the word Grad meaning Hail linked to Stalingrad. Sounds like it means something like Hail Stalin?
Many ATACMS will be sent to Ukraine and NATO partners because the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is coming onstream with the first PrSM received by the US Army on 8th December 2023.
ATACMS has a range of 190 miles (300 km).
PrSM has a range in excess of 310 miles (500 km).
The PrSM is thinner and sleeker than the ATACMS allowing for two PrSMs per ATACMS launch pod resulting in double the amount of missiles carried by M270 MLRS and M142 HIMARS.
The SCALP/Storm Shadow has a much longer range. But France and the UK decided to downgrade it for Ukrainians. Taurus does not have a longer range. It is comparable. At least from what we know publicly.
British military always downplays stats, the non export version can probably travel at least 700km, the French sub launched launched version with boosters can travel 1000km+
It's the export version that has a lower range. nothing against Ukraine in particular
From last I looked at this there's the export version that Ukraine has, the conventional one with a stated 500+km range used by the British and French air forces, there's some suggestion the RAF have hit targets at greater distance than that. The French navy has or is waiting on a newer 1200km ship launched version.
They didn’t downgrade it, they simply sent the export variant.
there is no export variant in French and UK stocks. The have been downgraded to meet export standards, which happen to be enough for Ukranians to hit tragets in Ukraine only. @@OiOiSillyBoi
Why does the new Russian navy have glass bottom boats? So they can see the old Russian navy.😅
05:49 that must be the highest ranked soldier ever
I might add that the Head Shed does not look too happy.
Why hasn’t Russia been declared a terrorist state?.
We all know that is it, its merely a formality.
@@dayforit1750 I guess the SCOTUS would see it another way >6\3.
The first time I've heard of checking with the enemy to see if they are okay with the weapons they are being with.LOL The Western leadership in a joke.🤣
5:49 Love the soldiers badge.
It's the JASSM, not the ATACMS which is the equivalent to Storm Shadow.
JASSm is much more like Storm Shadow than ATACMs. The former two weapons are air launched. ATACMs is a ground-launch system.
And that's why demand has increased for Western arms and decreased for Russian arms in the last year. I was reading about orders for Patriot batteries and HIMARS have increased to almost a 5-year backlog while militaries are now rethinking the effectiveness of the S-400.
yeah...sure 😏
only in Hollywood studios with your fantasy keep on dreaming Western weapons are garbage
Hope Turkey kept the receipts for S-400 they bought, its junk lol
Russia has never intercepted storm shadow.
Nor HIMARS...
Their own "state of the art" $1Bn S-400 can't even defend itself, twice!
Patriot PAC-3 from 1995 annihilated Putins pet project the hypersonic Kinzehl missiles. Every. Single. One.
Yes they have they showed wreckage of the missile on Telegram
@@jj4791 HIMARS wreckage has been shown and confirmed
@@ssaini5028not of intercepted missile. It’s the missile that missed its target
What makes this cruise missile so amazing and different from, lets say, Tomahawk? I tell you one thing. The lower it flies to the target, the harder its to intercept from the ground due to curvature of the earth. Maybe if some kind of airborne radar could detect them better, but for the most part, the low fly path makes them dangerous.
5:49 hahahah look at the solider in the middle, look at his emblem at his chest
by today its numbers just made close to 0 , to be effective you need to be 1 -1.5 range of max target distance and 3:1 of target counts .... to get more area you will need 300km range and 3 times amount
the star streak was very successful in shooting down many Russian aircraft, that is why the Russians like to attack from extreme range, then scoot back to base. this results int he Russian air support being useless. as Russians often miss at that range.